UK to ban controversial Islamist group

London, England (CNN) -- Britain is set to ban a Muslim group that recently caused outrage by proposing a demonstration in the town that receives the bodies of British war dead killed abroad, the Home Office said Sunday.

The ban would prevent Al-Muhajiroun, also known as Islam4UK, from having meetings or raising money. Attending a meeting or being a member of Al-Muhajiroun or Islam4UK would be a criminal offense, a Home Office spokesman said. The spokesman declined to be named, in line with government policy.

"Proscription is a tough but necessary power to tackle terrorism," said the Home Office, which is responsible for domestic security in the United Kingdom.

Two offshoots of Al-Muhajiroun, Al-Ghurabaa and Saviour Sect Group, were banned in July 2006.

The ban should come into force in a matter of "days, not weeks," the spokesman said. It would require approval from both houses of Parliament.

The group's leader, controversial British Muslim cleric Anjem Choudary, has been threatening to stage a march as a protest against the war in Afghanistan.

Choudary -- informed of the government's plans by CNN -- said the Home Office could not shut him down.

"We're not going to stop because the government bans an organization," he told CNN by phone. "If that means setting up another platform under another label, then so be it."

A ban "will just make the use of those names... illegal, but Muslims everywhere are obliged to work collectively to establish the Islamic State and Sharia law in the U.K. or wherever they are -- those things can't change," he added.

Asked if he was surprised or disappointed by the decision, Choudary said "No, not at all, we expect this and much more than that."

His Web site appeared to have been shut down as of Sunday, apparently by Islam4UK itself.

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Frankie said:

Is the UK waking up to how these Islamists take advantage of their PC policies?

Deportation would be more appropriate.


UK to ban controversial Islamist group

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A ban "will just make the use of those names... illegal, but Muslims everywhere are obliged to work collectively to establish the Islamic State and Sharia law in the U.K. or wherever they are -- those things can't change," he added.

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BrendanD said:

I don't get it. You leave your hellhole of a country for being a hellhole, and what do you do? You try to turn your new country into one. It's bizarre unless your goal was always colonization in the first place.

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Children aged as young as nine are being saved from so-called ‘forced marriages’, a Government review disclosed last night.

Almost half of the 86 females who were granted civil safeguards over the past year were children aged under 18, the Ministry of Justice review found.

The number saved in the first year of the scheme was double what government officials had expected to help since the forced marriage protection orders were introduced.


It found that some authorities and schools were reluctant to publicise the new orders because of “the presence of a PC agenda whereby there was reluctance to risk causing offence”.


The government strategy highlighted that certain groups of women, particularly those from ethnic minorities, face specific forms of violence, such as forced marriages, honour-based crime and female genital mutilation.

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The English white power rock band Brutal Attack, which performed at Rock Against Communism concerts in the 1980s, has a song entitled "Rivers of Blood" on their 1985 album, Stronger Than Before.

Additionally, the Polish one-man National Socialist Black Metal band Capricornus has a song entitled "Rivers of Blood" on the 2004 album Alone Against All.
The song addresses the declination of the white race as a result of corrupt capitalism, and promises the restoration of natural order after "the rivers of blood".[citation needed]

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Sensorei said:

I also say deport them and ban them from entry to UK and that goes for everyone wanting shariah law in UK. They have so many islamic states to choose from but they need to destroy the UK!? Crazy.

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zippy said:

@MidnightWizard
We are in 2010 now. Nobody even knows or cares who Enoch Powell is

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Five Muslim men who accused British soldiers of being rapists, murderers and baby killers during a homecoming parade were found guilty today of making threats.

The five, all from Luton, were convicted of using threatening, abusive or insulting words and behaviour likely to cause harassment and distress during a march by the Royal Anglian Regiment through Luton town centre in March last year.

Jalal Ahmed, 21, Yousaf Bashir, 29, Ziaur Rahman, 32, Shajjadar Choudhury, 31, Munim Abdul, 28, were found guilty at Luton Magistrates’ Court. Ibrahim Anderson, 32, and Jubair Ahmed, 19, also from Luton, were found not guilty. All had denied the charges.

The five men found guilty were given two-year conditional discharges and ordered to pay contributions towards costs of £500 each.

District judge Carolyn Mellanby said: “I have no doubt it is abusive and insulting to tell soldiers to ‘Go to hell’, to call soldiers murderers, rapists and baby killers. It is not just insulting to the soldiers but to the citizens of Luton who were out on the streets that day to honour and welcome soldiers home.”

Ms Mellanby added: “The fact that they say they did not intend their remarks to be insulting does not amount to defence in law. They were fully aware that shocking phrases in such circumstances would inevitably cause distress.”

She rejected arguments that they were merely exercising their right to freedom of speech as enshrined in the Human Rights Act, saying that their behaviour “went beyond reasonable, legitimate protest”.

Avirup Chaudhuri, for the prosecution, said that as the local regiment, who had served in Iraq and Afghanistan, passed, the group of protesters jeered “British Army murderers”, “British soldiers burn in hell” and “Baby killers”. They also denounced the troops as terrorists.

Lawyers defending the men said that their clients discussed their plans to protest with police beforehand, had agreed to a time and a place to do so and officers had not objected at the time. This implied consent by the police and to prosecute them retrospectively was not right, the lawyers said.

Outside court the defendants responded defiantly to the verdict.

Under a banner held up by a supporter saying “Islam will dominate the world. Freedom can go to hell”, Choudhury said that the trial showed the failure of freedom of speech and democracy.

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