My own dial-up isp

[Boitumelo101]

Hi everyone.

is it possible to let my clients dial up to my server for thier internet access? would i have to have a million different dial up numbers and a million modems for each or is there a way to do this?

I run a small business and all my clients require internet access but don't want to go on businessdsl just yet because they won't be using anythign close to the 128k speed or even 1 gig cap.

any advice

[simons]

well if i am not mistaken you would need a VANS licence first for it to be legal

[Clipse]

Setup a RRAS server on your side with multiple 56k modems connected to it, you will need 1 analog modem + analog line per client. So basicly, it wont work out very cost effective.

[Karnaugh]

if you have $money$ and alot of users, you can try get a PRI from Telkom and buy a dialup RAS to connect to it if you're trying to build your own dial infrastructure. Leasing Telkom, UUNet or IS accounts works out alot cheaper though for obvious reasons.

http://www.pcmall.com/pcmall/shop/detail~dpno~134551.asp
http://www.tabone.com.mt/cyclades/Pr4000/
Don't faint at the price ;)

[DFantom]

is it possible to let my clients dial up to my server for thier internet access?
Yes


would i have to have a million different dial up numbers and a million modems for each or is there a way to do this?
You would need a lot of modems to do this. I believe avg for ISP's is 1 modem for every 10 users. You could put this all on one number though.

Remember that it's all great for your users to have dialup to your server but your server will need a sufficently big enough internet connection itself to handle them.


well if i am not mistaken you would need a VANS licence first for it to be legal
100% correct. A VAN's licence is required for this


Leasing Telkom, UUNet or IS accounts works out alot cheaper though for obvious reasons.
The VISP route is what I would recommend you start with as well until you have the client base to handle the cost of building your own ISP

But hell GL to you if you decide to do it.

[AcidRaZor]

Alot of companies offer their employees RAS dialup internet services, they dont need a VANS license... why?

[Karnaugh]

dialup termination does not require a VANS licence afaik

[DFantom]

it's got nothing to do with dialup termination. It has to do with the fact the employees are part of the same company thus it's the companies own network.
When you start providing bandwidth/internet access to other people/companies (even if you don't charge them) then you need a VANS licence.

[Karnaugh]

No, since you're not providing the bandwidth, or the local loop, only a dialin point, and then forwarding and contending back to some other providers link you do not require a VANS license to my knowledge.

[DFantom]

If you provide bandwidth, even if you are reselling someone else's bandwidth (which I think you are getting to Kar), you need a VANS licence. It's the same as if I got a diginet to my house from UUNet, then ran a ethernet cable over the wall to my neighbour and let him browse over that diginet. I am providing bandwidth (second hand admittidly) so thus I need a VANS licence (barring any other laws about running lines over property boundries).

If you are a VISP that runs say the radius server but the actual modems are run by say SAIX, then you currently do not need a VANS (since SAIX is providing the bandwidth). However this may change under the new VANS regulations coming soon.

[Boitumelo101]

Thanks everyone.

I have a diginet connection to my ISP, and i guess it would not be as simple as i thought.
though any of my clients would be using about 80 meg a month each there is too many things to do, i thought i could just hook up modems on some modem rack mount and what not and get all 100 of them to dial into my connection.

phew! oh well,

if they had adsl it would better cause i could get thier routers to just look up my ip and they'd connect, but then telkom takes forever to setup.

thanks for all the advice :confused:

[piranha786]

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