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Chris
29-06-2005, 12:01 PM
Source: GameSpot (www.gamespot.com)


According to the latest issue of Japanese magazine Toyo Keizai, Merrill Lynch Japan Securities has recently calculated an analysis that the production of a single PlayStation 3 console will cost Sony approximately 54,000 yen to make ($494), as of its initial release in 2006.

Merrill Lynch Japan estimates that the machine's main components--namely its Cell chip, RSX, and BD-ROM drive--will cost about 11,000 yen ($101) each. After adding the other electronics that will be used in the PS3, the machine's production cost goes up to 54,000 yen.

Given that Sony's PS3 will face stiff competition from Microsoft's Xbox 360, the chances that Sony will release its console at its production cost is slim. Under the assumption that the Xbox 360 is expected to sell at around $299, Merrill Lynch Japan predicts that Sony will sell each PS3 at the price of 44,800 yen ($410) in Japan and $399 in America. That would mean Sony would suffer a loss of more than 130 billion yen ($1.18 billion) during the first year of the PS3's release.

By comparison, the PlayStation 2 cost 39,800 yen ($364) in Japan and $299 in America when it launched in 2000. During its first year of release, Sony Computer Entertainment suffered a loss of 51.1 billion yen ($458 million), but it recovered the next year with a profit of 82.9 billion yen ($759 million), followed by 112.6 billion yen ($1.03 billion) the year after.

It is normal for game companies to take a loss on hardware whenever a new console launches, since they typically focus on acquiring market share rather than generating a profit during the first year. During the second year and afterward, they can recover the losses with the savings that come from mass production and with licensing fees from publishers.

However, Merrill Lynch Japan warns that the normal console business cycle may be disrupted if Microsoft cuts the Xbox 360's price when the PlayStation 3 launches. The report goes on to say that such a move could hurt Sony's plans, bringing an additional loss of 80 billion yen ($730 million) in its second year and 50 billion yen ($457 million) in its third year. Thus far, Sony has already invested 200 billion yen ($1.83 billion) into development and production for the Cell chip alone.

Toyo Keizai goes on to interview Sony Computer Entertainment president Ken Kutaragi, who avoided revealing the PS3's price but hinted that it would not be marked down excessively. "Whether consumers think a product is expensive or cheap all depends on the balance between its appeal and price," he said. "Our ideal [for the PS3] is for consumers to think to themselves, 'OK, I'll work more hours and buy it.' We want people to feel that they want it, no matter what."

"When Nintendo was selling its 16-bit machine at around 12,500 yen ($114), we sold the first PlayStation at 39,800 yen ($364)," continued Kutaragi. "The press was saying that it was expensive, but it was a huge hit. It's the same thing with the PlayStation Portable from last year. The Game Boy Advance is a same handheld gaming machine, and it costs less than 10 thousand yen ($91). On the other hand, our PSP had cost 25,000 yen ($229). But people lined up overnight to buy it, and it sold out on the day of its launch. It all depends on whether people want it. Of course, I'm confident that the PS3 is a product that people will definitely want.

useless
29-06-2005, 12:19 PM
i am more worried at how much will the games cost... nevermind the loss Sony and MS will make of their consoles they will recover from game costs...

rburley
29-06-2005, 12:47 PM
I dont care I am sticking to my PC no matter what

useless
29-06-2005, 12:55 PM
i have the best of both worlds... :P

rburley
29-06-2005, 12:57 PM
so you have PS3???;)

useless
29-06-2005, 12:59 PM
lol! nope... just a PS2, Xbox and GC... each with its own exclusive titles which will never grace a PC... thats all... :)

rburley
29-06-2005, 01:01 PM
sheesh rich boy alert...
let me guess u have R15000 PC

useless
29-06-2005, 01:05 PM
nope, just a working guy who can afford what he always wanted to have... besides its all for gaming's cause... ;)

killadoob
29-06-2005, 01:18 PM
why have consoles when you could a goodpc with bf 2 preloaded and 1942 not far behind that

thats all the gaming i need
384 adsl and bf bf bf bf bf bf

something me and gf argue about over and over but who i love most is my secret lol

useless
29-06-2005, 01:21 PM
thats coz i tend to work in places WITHOUT all the ISDN or ADSL pleasantries and consoles are good social buddies after a few drinks too... :)

my GF thinks i am nuts as i started using my mike in BF2... talking to the PC... geez she says...

as for topic - the Xbox 360 will be priced CHEAPER than the PS3 and include a HDD as standard. i'd say let the big giants battle it out for better pricing so in the end, us consumers get the best deal.

AcidRaZor
29-06-2005, 01:24 PM
useless, you have a 127cm rear projection tv dedicated to only PS2 too?!

I have :D

useless
29-06-2005, 01:29 PM
useless, you have a 127cm rear projection tv dedicated to only PS2 too?!

I have :D

:p nope, just a regular 74cm TV with DTS amp connected to the Xbox and PS2 via optic cable... the GC is on a smaller TV as i cant play RE4 while the GF is watching Egoli until infinitcall time is on for BF2... :D

Vio
29-06-2005, 01:47 PM
You guys should check out the movie of Motorstorm/Killzone NextGen on the PS3, its unbelievable.

bboy
29-06-2005, 01:50 PM
i got my ps2 hooked up to my adsl , been playing games online, much easier to actually get going than doing it by pc!
got my ps2 to play copied games without a modchip, now that was tricky!

useless
29-06-2005, 01:54 PM
You guys should check out the movie of Motorstorm/Killzone NextGen on the PS3, its unbelievable.

there was a LOT of controversy over that movie of Killzone... i think its pre-rendered stuff... but on the other side i hope its not... yet too many people think GFX are the only component of gameplay... :p

eye_suc
29-06-2005, 02:18 PM
well, the better the graphics the more immersed you are. check bf2!!! good grief! i play single player and i shout order like i'm a commander!!!

if killzone looks like the movie, ill pee my pants if something like a doom3 imp jumps at me

useless
29-06-2005, 02:24 PM
*sigh*... Myst has got pretty GFX... yet i dont jump when i see an imp there..

BF2 rules coz you are battling actual people online and not bots... i never play BF2 single player... its too robotic for my taste..

Angellus
29-06-2005, 04:02 PM
About the kill zone demo, Sony made a statement that it was run realtime using the PS3 hardware but would not say if it was ingame. It was REALTIME though :p

BTW The PS3 at E3 was only running about 3/4 speed, the cores were at 2.75ghz not 3.2 and it was not using the RSX people speculate it was the 7800GTX or something very similar but not the RSX

arf9999
29-06-2005, 05:19 PM
I watched a demo of PS3 today......absolutely awesome graphics.

Real time terrain rendering.....wow!

slimothy
29-06-2005, 11:11 PM
yeah good graphics but thats not enough to make me go 'wow', for me nintendo has been awesome, i got into thier stuff ever since nintendo 64, they are innovators and they are gonna make some cool advancments with thier next console, have you seen how tiny it is? its like the size of a vhs tape!

righ tnow i have a nintendo ds, gba, ngage, xbox and ps2 (which i havent touched since gta came out), for the next generation i'll get xbox 360 over ps3 and nintrendo have my money anytime

lilgindauk
29-06-2005, 11:16 PM
i got a psp, but thats enought for me, ive always been fond of pc's cept for racing games like gran turismo!
thats im def getting a ps3, if my piggy bank has enough money!
Piggy bank=livecash card, im not that small!

jackdaniels
29-06-2005, 11:27 PM
lildork you have too much to say

jackdaniels
29-06-2005, 11:28 PM
lildork plz dont move back to S.A

lilgindauk
29-06-2005, 11:29 PM
cheers jack, you know i could love and stay to chat and insult you, but i wouldnt want to waste my time and lower meself now would I?:)

rburley
29-06-2005, 11:29 PM
Rofl

lilgindauk
29-06-2005, 11:31 PM
rburley im coming to s.a just remind me when i come to drop 1000rand on your doorstep!
consider it a partying gift!

rburley
29-06-2005, 11:32 PM
Why drop it on my doorstep, I will PM you my banking details

lilgindauk
29-06-2005, 11:34 PM
he-he you funny, thats why you freind, unlike some people!:)

rburley
29-06-2005, 11:35 PM
I wasnt joking...

lilgindauk
29-06-2005, 11:36 PM
Dude, you seriously remind me of my friend adam!

lilgindauk
29-06-2005, 11:37 PM
okay then.!
What bank do you use? :confused:

rburley
29-06-2005, 11:37 PM
That must be one hell of a potent dude

lilgindauk
29-06-2005, 11:39 PM
i know!
both of you are very cool. and quite!
you set the trend.
Even though slim calls me names, he still reminds me of another friend:)

rburley
29-06-2005, 11:40 PM
OK back off now you scaring me ;)

lilgindauk
29-06-2005, 11:43 PM
dont worry, i guess im tired, to much rollercoasting gives you a migrane, well im off
g2g to bed, P.E first thing tommoz! in 10degrees
g-nite, maybe ill dream about the ps3!

rburley
29-06-2005, 11:45 PM
Man when I was 15 I was dreaming about girls and I still am...
U need to get out more

jjtoymachine
04-07-2005, 08:56 AM
got my ps2 to play copied games without a modchip, now that was tricky!
care to share how?