to jailbrake or not to jailbrake

[macboer]

I know this is a topic that has been ridden to its bones on some forums, but i couldn't find it clearly in this one.

I know the pros, but is it worth it and is there a chance that the phone will be bricked?

Ps. i realise that i'm posting this on a geek forum and probably 90% of you have it jailbroken.:D

[Synaesthesia]

It's worth it if you're a tinkerer, not really worth it if you are happy with your iPhone as-is, which is already pretty awesome.

Personally I liked it, especially multitasking support, 5 icon dock, SSH and SBSettings.

The chance of bricking your phone is pretty much zero, although it's easy to lose settings & apps and stuff so be careful and make backups. There's a lot of info online on this.

[Rouxenator]

Why do you have to jailbreak? Its like buying a new car and having to chip it just to go on public highways and allow for passengers.
What you need is something gr8 - get an N8 (http://www.gsmarena.com/nokia_n8-3252.php) :p

[cerebus]

Ugh rouxenator what a joke... a Nokia??? At least recommend an HTC Desire or something worthwhile. Youre so full of it man.

Anyways i'm having difficulties with jailbreaking atm. It's not as straightforward as it seems. Now it's borked my iPod app - songs begin to play then go back to the main menu.

[Rouxenator]

Yeah, keep on telling yourself that :p
As if the need to jailbreak something was not a good enough indication... esih, you have an appletude problem.

[cerebus]

No I have a decent mobile OS problem. I don't care which one it is. Shouldn't my recommending an Android phone have indicated that I wasn't an Apple fanboy?

[Rouxenator]

You clearly have not [-]driven a Ford lately[/-] used a Symbian device lately. Maybe check out some of the latest reviews on GSM Arena.
It is ahead of the competition in terms or hardware requirements and its an an extremely open platform.
The N8 will run Symbian^3 which will be like everything you ever wanted - just a little better. Oh, and not need to put it on parole or break it out of jail.

[bwana]

Jailbreaking originally made my iPhone sluggish but now that I've updated to 3.1.3 and jailbroke it again it's much snappier.

TBH I dont really derive any benefit from having it jailbroken anymore so I might just revert back.

[cerebus]

I had an N97 about a week ago actually. Was such a horrendous experience I sold it immediately and got myself an iPhone. So ^3 had BETTER be something special or Nokia is in serious trouble if my impressions were anything to go by.


And 'jailbreaking' Symbian is if anything even more frustrating than jailbreaking iPhone... Not to mention pointless because there's all of about 10 apps you actually want to use for it. Try finding yourself a decent ebook reader for your Symbian device...

[Rouxenator]

OK, you got me there. The N97 was crap before V30 so I get your point and I can understand where you are coming from.

[Pooky]

Does jailbreaking make one's iPhone slower?

[cerebus]

Look - you don't complain about your PC breaking because you downloaded a virus through your torrents do you. So long as you use the iPhone as it's intended you don't have ANY issues. Jailbreaking problems are your own fault. So I'm not whining about it, it's just a pain now I have to go and do a system restore AGAIN.

Pooky it doesn't make it slower by itself no. But I found that some things like winterboard might affect the speed.

[macboer]

Seems jailbraking is still as controversial as ever. I think one of the main reasons for me to jailbrake will be to get all the awesome games. but then again, i don't know if i will actually play the games allot as i never have been a "gamer". (lol, as if the iphone is a GAMING-DEVICE :P)

What apps are NOT in the ZA store, that you can't live without without a jailbroken phone??

[macboer]

for more...http://forums.whirlpool.net.au/forum-replies.cfm?t=1070240&p=3

[Synaesthesia]

Seems jailbraking is still as controversial as ever. I think one of the main reasons for me to jailbrake will be to get all the awesome games. but then again, i don't know if i will actually play the games allot as i never have been a "gamer". (lol, as if the iphone is a GAMING-DEVICE :P)

What apps are NOT in the ZA store, that you can't live without without a jailbroken phone??
The iPhone is awesome for gaming. Most of the games aren't in the ZA Store, (because they all have to pay R4000 to be rated by our ratings board, amongst other reasons). In fact all the cool apps are in the US store, so just get a US iTunes account. It's easy and free.

Yeah I also jailbreaked and pirated a lot. You can do that. In future I'll think I'll buy Apps though.

iPhone OS 4 also removes one of the great advantages of Jailbreaking which is multitasking, and it's gonna be implemented muchbetter than the jailbroken multitasking ever was!

[macboer]

It's easy and free.

not according to my experience. the "none" option isn't available anymore. (maybe i'm doing it wrong)

[adsl3g]

Jailbreaking originally made my iPhone sluggish but now that I've updated to 3.1.3 and jailbroke it again it's much snappier.

TBH I dont really derive any benefit from having it jailbroken anymore so I might just revert back.

SAme here - I have upgraded to 3.1.3 and not jailbreaked again- running very smoothly ATM - iPhone OS4 will definately not be on my list for jailbreaking.
If I had my ID and a water & lights account with me today, I would have got the 3GS @ Dion Wired - (luckily) they refused to sell without those documents.

[adsl3g]

not according to my experience. the "none" option isn't available anymore. (maybe i'm doing it wrong)

Select a free app and then register - the none option should then be there??

EDIT: its still there- just checked
follow this tutorial http://mybroadband.co.za/photos/showgallery.php/cat/797

[Gothan]

Because of the lockinfo app, I am forced to jailbreak everytime, I just cannot do without my lockinfo, oh and my grip notifications. But thats about it...oh no wait...Mcallshow is also a must. But yes jailbreaking does slow down your phone, not so much in speed as in memory usage

[Rouxenator]

:D Don't mean to be trollin' here but seriously guy - you need to haxor your phone, buy and install a 3rd party app just to show you missed calls, the date, message notifications and other stuff on your lockscreen ?!

[Synaesthesia]

:D Don't mean to be trollin' here
Yes you do.

Message notifications & missed calls and the date do show up on the homescreen by default.

[WiT8litZ]

I didn't read the thread really, but to answer the title question, imo with the new OS4.0 coming out, there is no reason to jailbreak anymore. Neither now. I never did mine and don't intend to. I got the iPhone to work more simply, and having to go through a massively technical process to get marginally more functionality, not worth it.

[kingrob]

Jailbreaking originally made my iPhone sluggish but now that I've updated to 3.1.3 and jailbroke it again it's much snappier.

TBH I dont really derive any benefit from having it jailbroken anymore so I might just revert back.

I just jailbreaked my 3G iPhone last night and very very happy with it now. Feels like I got a new phone. :)

I used Spirit to jailbreak my phone, running iPhone OS 3.1.3 .

*Now I dont really know why I should upgrade to iPhone OS 4, cos I can already do everything (and much more) that OS 4 promises.

[fxit_man]

I didn't read the thread really, but to answer the title question, imo with the new OS4.0 coming out, there is no reason to jailbreak anymore. Neither now. I never did mine and don't intend to. I got the iPhone to work more simply, and having to go through a massively technical process to get marginally more functionality, not worth it.

It's hardly massively technical. It's a case of running an exe (spirit jailbreak) for less than a minute.

[kingrob]

Oh, and thank you fxit_man for my cool new Vodacom carrier logo! Love it. :)

[Gothan]

@Roux

Lockinfo, does not just integrate into your lockscreen, it integrates with various apps like twitter and appigo todo. As well as creating an infoshade and homescreen information screen with previews and so on.

If I wanted to use the normal notification on the iphone, I could have, but I prefer lockinfo...its called choice, thats the thing you get with successful smartphones. Now troll along

[Rouxenator]

Sweet ! Guess I underestimated it then, sounds pretty good actually, but why must you then jailbreak to use it? An app like that should make a killing in the app store :confused: ?

[SlinkyMike]

Why do you have to jailbreak? Its like buying a new car and having to chip it just to go on public highways and allow for passengers.
What you need is something gr8 - get an N8 (http://www.gsmarena.com/nokia_n8-3252.php) :p


Ugh rouxenator what a joke... a Nokia??? At least recommend an HTC Desire or something worthwhile. Youre so full of it man.

Anyways i'm having difficulties with jailbreaking atm. It's not as straightforward as it seems. Now it's borked my iPod app - songs begin to play then go back to the main menu.

What no one in the OSS community will admit to is the fact that to install the latest firmware ...not applications - firmware on the older/locally bought Android devices one has to 'root' the device first. A process akin to although a lot more risky than... you guessed it: jailbreaking an iPhone.

All of the lockdown/walled garden/douchebag device drama is nothing but hot air.

Furthermore: Symbian... really? Lulz buddy, big, fat lulz.

[Rouxenator]

All of the lockdown/walled garden/douchebag device drama is nothing but hot air.
They should make an app for that and call it iHairDryer then :p

[SlinkyMike]

Jailbreaking originally made my iPhone sluggish but now that I've updated to 3.1.3 and jailbroke it again it's much snappier.

TBH I dont really derive any benefit from having it jailbroken anymore so I might just revert back.


SAme here - I have upgraded to 3.1.3 and not jailbreaked again- running very smoothly ATM - iPhone OS4 will definately not be on my list for jailbreaking.
If I had my ID and a water & lights account with me today, I would have got the 3GS @ Dion Wired - (luckily) they refused to sell without those documents.

Guys, out of interest (and to save me trawling the tubes for this info ;)) did you update in Itunes then use the spirit jailbreak?

I assume that these are Vcom unlocked, locally bought phones, right?

[Gothan]

:D Don't mean to be trollin' here but seriously guy - you need to haxor your phone, buy and install a 3rd party app just to show you missed calls, the date, message notifications and other stuff on your lockscreen ?!

Cause just like any propriety OS, apple has a lot of strict development codes that cater for memory usage and so on. Unfortunately if you want to be creative and bypass the base functionality of the phone (like notifications and lockscreen plugins), you have to use a plugin substrate, hence jailbreaking. Lockinfo, plug into the jailbreak mobile substrate and not into the iphone framework.

But this is not limited to the iphone, even with android you need to hack it to get to all the good functionality.

Personally I do feel that apple should have paid a little bit more attention to its lockscreen with the new OS4 as well as a new notification system, but that is my pet peeve, I hate obtrusive notifications, that is why I use grip

[limnos]

Guys, out of interest (and to save me trawling the tubes for this info ;)) did you update in Itunes then use the spirit jailbreak?

I assume that these are Vcom unlocked, locally bought phones, right?

Yes you can update in iTunes to 3.1.3 and then activate your iPhone with your sim inserted.

Once that is done, simply download the spirit jailbreak and simply jailbreak!

I can never tell how much 'snappier' an untouched IPSW is, since the minute i upgrade i ALWAYS jailbreak. Don't think I have ever had my iPhone since 1st gen days unjailbroken.

I just can't do with apps such as: SBSettings, Backgrounder, Activator, Battery Control, Clock Hide, Infinidock, LockInfo, Orbit, Reflective Dock, Safari Download Manager, Notifier Pro, Weather Icon, Winterboard and the ability to 'trial' AppStore apps before purchasing them....

It's my iPhone and I want to customise it the way I want to!

[kingrob]

It's my iPhone and I want to customise it the way I want to!

+1

How I wish I could do the same with iTunes. I absolutely HATE that POS crapware. With a passion. Lots. Mega. Infinite. :(

[J25]

Don't you mean Jailbreak?

[fxit_man]

Oh, and thank you fxit_man for my cool new Vodacom carrier logo! Love it. :)

Anytime man ;) Glad you enjoying it

[bwana]

Guys, out of interest (and to save me trawling the tubes for this info ;)) did you update in Itunes then use the spirit jailbreak?

I assume that these are Vcom unlocked, locally bought phones, right?That's correct.

[limnos]

+1

How I wish I could do the same with iTunes. I absolutely HATE that POS crapware. With a passion. Lots. Mega. Infinite. :(

Have you tired PwnTunes (http://thebigboss.org/2010/05/19/introducing-pwntunes)?

It's not compatible with MAC, so let me know how it works...

[kingrob]

Have you tired PwnTunes (http://thebigboss.org/2010/05/19/introducing-pwntunes)?

Thanks, will give it a go!

It looks like it might be the solution I was looking for.