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JZ 'shocked people still live like this'
Destitute mother tells president she wants to die
May 17, 2010 11:23 PM | By AMUKELANI CHAUKE

Busisiwe Mlotshwa got down on her knees, broke into sobs and clutched President Jacob Zuma's hand when he paid a surprise visit to her home in the Sweetwater informal settlement, south of Johannesburg, yesterday.

Mlotshwa, 50, an unemployed mother of six, struggled for words, eventually telling Zuma: "Nothing is going my way and all I am waiting for is to die."

Mlotshwa and her neighbours in the sprawling settlement about 20km from the Johannesburg CBD, do not have toilets, electricity or an adequate water supply.

There is no sign of low-cost government houses being built in the area.

Mlotshwa told Zuma: "My daughter does not listen to me because an unemployed mother has no voice. One day she came from school, changed her clothes and decided to go to town to sell her body.

"She has turned to prostitution and I am told that taxi drivers are sharing her in town. She told me she would rather be a prostitute than stay at home."

Zuma told the residents of Sweetwater he had decided to visit after receiving repeated complaints on his presidential hotline about the conditions in which they were living.

His spokesman, Zizi Kodwa, said a decision was taken not to alert the local authorities about the visit because they did not want them to prepare the community in any way.

Zuma said Sweetwater would be high on the agenda at a meeting he is to hold today with the premiers of all nine provinces.

"Part of my visit was in preparation for that meeting because I don't want to hear of a good report about housing whereas I was here," he told about 40 residents.

Mlotshwa, who has herself called Zuma's hotline and sent letters about her desperate living conditions to ANC headquarters, told Zuma: "Even my [mud] house is falling apart. I have six children and survive on a R200 social grant I get for my [14-year-old] last-born and I feel like I have no reason to be alive. No one can employ a woman my age."

Sweetwater residents complained that their Johannesburg municipal councillor, Freedom Sotshantsha, drives a yellow Hummer and is accompanied by police whenever he comes to the area.

They told Zuma that Sotshantsha's police escorts had fired rubber bullets at them during service-delivery protests earlier this year. Colonel Sonja Slabbert, the area's station commander, denied any knowledge of this.


Zuma said: "I thought I should come to look at [Sweetwater] because of the way people described it to me. All that the people were saying is what I saw; the problems they have.

"As you have seen, it is something you cannot describe, that human beings live in such conditions. We are taken aback to see what is meant by freedom if people still live in the manner in which they live. When I came I thought there was no councillor here because they are supposed to help the people.

"And they say the councillor comes with the police, he shoots them. I am certainly going to be seeing the province and talk to national government ... something needs to be done."

Zuma said he was "very keen" to meet Sotshantsha to "get to the bottom of the matter".

Yesterday afternoon, Sotshantsha told The Times he had learned of Zuma's visit to his ward only when the president was about to leave.

"Yes I do own a Hummer. People should not compare my Hummer with the development in the area.

"I bought this to enable me to move around in the area as it is often impossible to move around when it rains as the roads are bad," he said. "I did not buy the Hummer cash, I am paying it from the salary I get as a councillor."

He said the City of Johannesburg was drawing up plans to develop infrastructure in Sweetwater.

He asked for a police escort whenever he went into the area because he had been attacked once and almost killed during a meeting with residents in Thulabantwana, an area next to Sweetwater, in 2006, Sotshantsha said.

"After that, I don't take any chances as there are always plans to kill me. Even if you came to my house now you will find police outside my yard," he said.

In August, Zuma paid a surprise visit to Siyathemba, a township outside Balfour, Mpumalanga, after violent service-delivery protests wracked the area.

The mayor under whom the area falls, Lefty Tsotetsi, had already knocked off by the time Zuma visited his office at 3:30pm.

Zuma is scheduled to return to Balfour at the weekend to follow up on residents' grievances.

http://www.timeslive.co.za/local/article454635.ece/JZ-shocked-people-still-live-like-this

The councilor needs protection because he is living large...and actually defends his show of wealth...whilst wasting tax money on police at house because of it...

The police commander is not informed of the doings of the members...

zuma expressing shock at the conditions is beyond words...
 
The anc will reward the "struggle" ffs the people must be a little more patient.

It has only been 16 years and there is still money to be stolen by officials.

I think these and all service delivery striking people are fusking ungratefull, they have a few taps and have no right to bitch like this.

The "struggle" is not over yet if they keep voting anc they will eventually get their rewards
 
oh please, what does he think all those squatters have? fully furnished shacks? He cant be that dumb! ... then again he does think having a shower cures AIDS so you never know.
 
And it will not be at all surprising to you lot that when I saw this on the news earlier I viewed it in a positive light and was impressed that the president was out there walking in the dirt and the mud of the shanty town, stepping into shacks and checking out the squalid conditions. I, of course, fully expected it to not take long for someone to manage to put a negative spin on it :rolleyes:

EDIT : Oh, and here in this type of thread is where we find the true "usual suspects" of MyBB.
 
Positive?

He should be ashamed in the failings of the government in looking after the poor that make up the majority of the anc voters.

Money misspent, stolen etc. That should be used to uplift them, And only now for the first time he spends time with the poorest of the poor.

Lance he has during these visits always made promises to the people and has not kept one of them. And and and

Sincerly up yours
Usual suspect
 
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And it will not be at all surprising to you lot that when I saw this on the news earlier I viewed it in a positive light and was impressed that the president was out there walking in the dirt and the mud of the shanty town, stepping into shacks and checking out the squalid conditions. I, of course, fully expected it to not take long for someone to manage to put a negative spin on it :rolleyes:

EDIT : Oh, and here in this type of thread is where we find the true "usual suspects" of MyBB.

Hahaha! The elections have nothing to do with this "baby kissing" BS, nooooo.... :D
 
Positive?

He should be ashamed in the failings of the government in looking after the poor that make up the majority of the anc voters.

And he was. If you bothered listening to the news you would have heard him condemning the lack of service delivery and stating that even the given excuses were not going to be accepted by him.

Any attempt to explain why people were still living "like pigs" when the country was nearly celebrating 20 years' of freedom would be meaningless, said Zuma.

"We are working on addressing this... having been government for 16 years, we must know what's working and what is not. We need to change the manner in which we do things and move quicker."
 
Lance he has during these visits always made promises to the people and has not kept one of them.

There we go, more of that usual bull**** that gets spewed out and we are all meant to just believe it. The exaggerations that are made and result in everything you say being disregarded as crap!

So he has made promises to the people he has visited but not kept one of them. So what about the more than 5 million people who now have homes?




http://www.housing.gov.za/Content/Stats/Housing Delivery Stats.htm
 
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Zuma said he was "very keen" to meet Sotshantsha to "get to the bottom of the matter".

Just like he got to the bottom of the Mal-enema matter - all talk and no action from AIDS shower boy Zooma.
 
And...because he said it you believe him...

I have some real estate on the moon you may be interested in...

I'm not interested in buying it as I am totally happy here in South Africa. I cannot fathom why you haven't made the move to go and live there yet though? I'm sure you'd be happier there and I would be vastly happier not having to listen to you bitch about everything and anything day after day after day.....

I can only hope, for the sake of those around you, that you real life persona is not as depressed and pessimistic as your online one.
 
I'm not interested in buying it as I am totally happy here in South Africa. I cannot fathom why you haven't made the move to go and live there yet though? I'm sure you'd be happier there and I would be vastly happier not having to listen to you bitch about everything and anything day after day after day.....

I can only hope, for the sake of those around you, that you real life persona is not as depressed and pessimistic as your online one.

Hahaha! I'm the one that has been told "How come you are always so positive?", here in the forum. I get asked that in real life also. I'm as happy as a person that retired at 36, living right on the beach, can be.

I laugh at the anc/sacp/cosatu. I make people aware of their stupidity. That's having fun. Not moaning. ;)
 
Well, if a government continues allowing corruption and down right bloody theft, by officials from every sector of said government, from Ministers down, what exactly did the President expect to find? Palaces and pretty gardens? I would love to know, of the billions allocated to housing, exactly what amount is pilfered each year by ANC bigwigs. I can guarantee that actual building of houses is not high on the list of priorities of these bastards. Flashy German vehicles and oversized, over priced palaces for themselves yes, housing for the masses no.
 
jz must be going for best showman....one day... well one can hope that the evil threesome might become powerless and their yoke be shed.
 
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Hahaha! I'm the one that has been told "How come you are always so positive?", here in the forum. I get asked that in real life also. I'm as happy as a person that retired at 36, living right on the beach, can be.

Ahh, so you are actually satisfied with your life so you just come on here to see if you can spread unhappiness and gloom with others. Nice.
 
Erm LOL what the hell? Then does he think shacks are nice big mansions with Xbox's and jacuzzis?

EDIT: Ok but you know what, at least he visits these places.. And while I don't think the entire country will see change, I'm sure that one township will see improved services
 
You'd swear that ministers in all other countries drive around in Tata Indicas and live in shacks the way people always say this.

Yes, but all other countries don't have such huge problems with shanty towns as you put it. I would not mind ministers having these things if the issue of housing was more aggressively addressed (or even if the issue was addressed at all). But please stop referring to other counties, Lance I don't care if the minister of housing for England drove a tank to parlament, he does a good enough job. I care what the SA Minister is doing.

And for one who professes not to be an ANC supporter, Lance, you are beginning to sound just like one. You say you are critical of the ANC, but I've never seen a single post from you that is anything but praiseworthy of their efforts. So what are you bud, an ANC spokesperson?
 
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I'm not interested in buying it as I am totally happy here in South Africa. I cannot fathom why you haven't made the move to go and live there yet though? I'm sure you'd be happier there and I would be vastly happier not having to listen to you bitch about everything and anything day after day after day.....

I can only hope, for the sake of those around you, that you real life persona is not as depressed and pessimistic as your online one.

And the Intelligence of your reply?

Wishful thinking: a specific type of appeal to emotion where a decision is made according to what might be pleasing to imagine, rather than according to evidence or reason.

Appeal to spite: a specific type of appeal to emotion where an argument is made through exploiting people's bitterness or spite towards an opposing party.

Judgmental language: insulting or pejorative language to influence the recipient's judgment.

Reification (hypostatization): a fallacy of ambiguity, when an abstraction (abstract belief or hypothetical construct) is treated as if it were a concrete, real event or physical entity. In other words, it is the error of treating as a "real thing" something which is not a real thing, but merely an idea.
 
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