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bekdik
26-07-2005, 10:16 PM
A letter I received from a friend earlier today....... Thought I would share it with all of you.........

Thoughts would be appreciated, where appropriate, discussions and dabate and where possible, action.

-----Original Message-----
From:
Sent: 26 July 2005 11:46 AM
To: Subject: FW: Zimbabwe

A letter from Zimbabwe Sent in by John Winter:

I reckon that these are the last days of TKM and ZPF.

The darkest hour is always before dawn.

We are all terrified of what they are going to destroy next........I mean they are actually plowing down brick and mortar houses and one white family with twin boys of 10 had no chance of salvaging anything when 100 riot police came in with AK's and bulldozers and demolished their beautiful house - 5 bedrooms and pine ceilings - because it was "too close to the airport"..so we are feeling extremely insecure right now. You know - I am aware that this does not help you sleep at night, but if you do not know - how can you help?

I feel so cut off from you all knowing I cannot tell you what's going on here simply because you will feel uncomfortable. There is no ways we can leave so that is not an option. I just ask that you all pray for us in the way that you know how, and let me know that you are thinking of us and sending out positive vibes... that's all.

You can't just be in denial and pretend its not going on. To be frank with you, its genocide in the making and if you do not believe me, read the Genocide Report by Amnesty International which says we are IN level seven (level 8 is after its happened and everyone is in denial). If you don't want me to tell you these things then it means you have not dealt with your own fear, but it does not help me to think you are turning your back on our situation.

We need you to get the news OUT that we are all in a fearfully dangerous situation here. Too many people turn their backs and say - oh well, that's what happens in Africa. This government has GONE MAD and you need to publicize our plight or how can we be rescued?

You can't just say "oh you attract your own reality". The petrol queues are a reality, the pall of smoke all around our city is a reality, the thousands of homeless people sleeping outside in 0 degrees Celsius with no food water, shelter and bedding are a reality. Today a family approached me, brother of the gardener's wife with two small children.

Their home was trashed and they will have to sleep outside. We already support 8 people and a child on this property and electricity is going up next month by 250% as is water. How can I take another family of 4 - and yet how can I turn them away to sleep out in the open?

I am not asking you for money, or a ticket out of here - I am asking you to FACE the fact that we are in deep and terrible danger and I want you to pass on our news and pictures and don't just press the delete button. Help in the way that you know how. Face the reality of what is going on here and SEND OUT THE WORD. The more people that know about it, the more chance we have of United Nations coming to our aid.

Please stop ignoring and denying what's happening. Would you like to be protected from the truth and then if we are eliminated how would you feel? Surely you would say "if only we knew how bad it really was we could have helped in some way". I know we chose to stay here and so we "deserve" what's coming to us. For now we ourselves, have food, shelter, a little fuel and a bit of money for the next meal - but what is going to happen next?

Will they start on our houses? All property is going to belong to the State now. We no longer have SW radio which told us everything that was happening because the government jammed it out of existence - we don't have any reporters, and no one is allowed to photograph. If we had reporters here they would have an absolute field day. Even the pro government Herald has written that people are shocked, stunned, bewildered and blown mindless by the wanton destruction of everyone's homes which are supposed to be "illegal", but which a huge percentage of them actually do have licenses for.

Please - have some compassion and HELP by sending out this report so that something can be DONE. Please pray for us

TMoose
26-07-2005, 10:29 PM
As sad as this is, there's absolutely nothing that can be done. The only people that can act is our own government, and they're too weak. You know, Zim is looking for a $1bn loan from us. We could easily give it to them but attach conditions to it such as:

1. Robert Mugabe must immediately resign
2. Zimbabwe's constitution should be changed to only allow for 2 terms as President
3. An election must be organized immediately, completely open to international watchdogs and press

They'd of course say "up yours", but at least it would put some pressure on them.

Even if 1m people march in Pretoria tomorrow to demand that our government do something, anything... even military intervention, nothing will happen. They won't even condemn what's happening over there.

nic777
27-07-2005, 02:27 PM
http://www.mybroadband.co.za/vb/showthread.php?t=23787&goto=newpost

:confused:

Raithlin
27-07-2005, 02:48 PM
You know, Zim is looking for a $1bn loan from us. We could easily give it to them but attach conditions to it such as:

1. Robert Mugabe must immediately resign
2. Zimbabwe's constitution should be changed to only allow for 2 terms as President
3. An election must be organized immediately, completely open to international watchdogs and press

They'd of course say "up yours", but at least it would put some pressure on them.
They got the loan from China. There goes that idea.

TMoose
27-07-2005, 03:41 PM
They got the loan from China. There goes that idea.Link please. I can't find anything about this at major news websites. The DA is still running its "stop Zimbabwe loan" campaign, and reports written as recently as yesterday still mention that they're busy negotiating.

karin
05-08-2005, 09:40 AM
Do you have an email address for John Winter, or know how I can get hold of him - forwarded his letter to a friend at CBS in New York and they are trying to get hold of him.

Thanks
Karin

gdiza
07-05-2008, 04:04 PM
I received this via e-mail and thought I'd share it with you guys (like I share everything else)

Comments?


Letter from Zimbabwe sent in by John Winter

I reckon that these are the last days of TKM and ZPF. The darkest hour is always before dawn.
We are all terrified at what they are going to destroy next........I mean they are actually ploughing down brick and mortar houses and one white family with twin boys of 10 had no chance of salvaging anything when 100 riot police came in with AK47's and bulldozers and demolished their beautiful house - 5 bedrooms and pine ceilings - because it was "too close to the airport", Many white women and girls get raped daily, so we are feeling extremely insecure right now.

You know - I am aware that this does not help you sleep at night, but if you do not know - how can you help? Even if you put us in your own mental ring of light and send your guardian angels to be with us - that is a help - but I feel so cut off from you all knowing I cannot tell you what's going on here simply because you will feel uncomfortable. There is no ways we can leave here so that is not an option.

I ask that you all pray for us in the way that you know how, and let me know that you are thinking of us and sending out positive vibes... that's all. You can't just be in denial and pretend/believe it's not going on.
To be frank with you, it's genocide in the making and if you do not believe me, read the Genocide Report by Amnesty International which says we are - IN level 7 - (level 8 is after it's happened and everyone is in denial).

If you don't want me to tell you these things-how bad it is—then it means you have not dealt with your own fear, but it does not help me to think you are turning your back on our situation. We need you, please, to get the news OUT that we are all in a fearfully dangerous situation here. Too many people turn their backs and say - oh well, that's what happens in Africa. This Government has GONE MAD and you need to help us publicize our plight--- or how can we be rescued? It's a reality! The petrol queues are a reality, the pall of smoke all around our city is a reality, the thousands of homeless people sleeping outside in 0 Celsius with no food, water, shelter and bedding are a reality. Today a family approached me, brother of the gardener's wife with two small children. Their home was trashed and they will have to sleep
outside. We already support 8 adult people and a child on this property, and electricity is going up next month by 250% as is water.
How can I take on another family of 4 -----and yet how can I turn them away to sleep out in the open?
I am not asking you for money or a ticket out of here - I am asking you to FACE the fact that we are in deep and terrible danger and want you please to pass on our news and pictures. So PLEASE don't just press the delete button! Help best in the way that you know how.

Do face the reality of what is going on here and help us SEND OUT THE WORD.. The more people who know about it, the more chance we have of the United Nations coming to our aid. Please don't ignore or deny what's happening. Some would like to be protected from the truth BUT then, if we are eliminated, how would you feel? "If only we knew how bad it really was we could have helped in some way".
[I know we chose to stay here and that some feel we deserve what's coming to us]
For now,--- we ourselves have food, shelter, a little fuel and a bit of money for the next meal - but what is going to happen next? Will they start on our houses? All property is going to belong to the State now. I want to send out my Title Deeds to one of you because if they get a hold of those, I can't fight for my rights.

Censorship!----We no longer have SW radio [which told us everything that was happening] because the Government jammed it out of existence – we don't have any reporters, and no one is allowed to photograph. If we had reporters here, they would have an absolute field day. Even the pro-Government Herald has written that people are shocked, stunned, bewildered and blown mindless by the wanton destruction of many folks homes, which are supposed to be 'illegal' but for which a huge percentage actually do have licenses.

Please! - do have some compassion and HELP by sending out the articles and personal reports so that something can/may be done. "I am one. I cannot do everything, ---but I can do something.. And because I cannot do everything, I will not refuse to do the something that I can do. What I can do, I should do. And what I should do, by the grace of God, I will do." -

Please pray for us………..

Edward Everett Hale

Koos Custodiet
07-05-2008, 04:32 PM
Yes, I've seen this letter. It was posted a few places back in July 2005...

Stokstert
07-05-2008, 04:38 PM
This is what I can't understand in Africa, why break down everything when you could use it yourself. Always the same, break down a lovely brick and mortar house and use the timber to make fire, the zinc plates to build shacks and the bricks to murder each other???
All the stuff must be destroyed first to stand openhanded and claim poverty in front of the rest of the world. F it.

vespax
07-05-2008, 07:26 PM
If this letter was real (and I'm not saying it isn't) than he should be documenting everything that is happening and finding was of sending the info out of the country. Send through emails, blogs, comments on news sites, etc. How is it that things were documented during wars decades ago and yet in this information age, nothing comes out of Zim.

I am just skeptical of some of these "letters". I got an email from a school mate who lives in Zim. Just got hired at a university and has a car as part of his package, and a good salary... So there is still life to be lived there. :o

3G4me
07-05-2008, 09:12 PM
This letter was aired on Sky news this morning (abbreviated), I have no doubt it is real. John Winter is a regular emailer to Sky news from ZIM.

If you google Zim newz, you will see that this is actually a drop in the ocean, more and much worse is taking place there at the moment... there are pictures and videos supporting this - with dates!

I am very ashamed to be a South African right now, with the response we are giving to this crisis in Zim, real people - and educated, beautiful people, are being slaughtered and tortured like animals, whilst our president supports Mugabe - and gives us all a bad name around the world. My heart bleeds for them, and I wonder whether he (Mbeki) would have taken the same stand here in SA as Mugabe???

vespax
08-05-2008, 02:04 PM
I just got this letter in my inbox. There is an email address attached to the forward as well as all the phone numbers listed. I give this a bit more credibility.


PLEASE read this and forward it on to as many people internationally as you can. We live our comfortable first world lives and the international (and South African!) governments and the UN are sitting back letting Robert Mugabe do as he pleases. The chances are the author of this email may well be dead by the end of the week!

Dear Family and Friends,

Well never thought I would have to do this email do not know if it may be my last from our farm 'Chidza'. At 3.30pm today a lorry load of so called Mugabe brainwashed 'war-vets' arrived at our gate to take over our land, equipment and pedigree cattle.

This crazy action is occurring in a country where there is very little food being produced!

It is now 6 pm and they have been singing their war songs at our gate for three hours, the atmosphere is violent and more and more of them have arrived.

We managed to get our daughter Alison and her young son 'Little John' into town and for now it is just John and myself, plus our dogs remaining in the house on the farm.
They have said that our labour will not work tomorrow.
They have demanded that John must kill them a sheep, which John has flatly refused to do, so no doubt they will simply kill one for themselves.

None of our paid labour will even attmpt to come to work tomorrow either!
Graham Richards who lives south of us is also under siege at the same time as us, so this siege of the last remaining whites is an orchestrated plan.
The Goddards and Deidricks are in the same boat.
They have already taken over Pa-Nyanda Guest Lodge, and Graham and his wife Callie are now in town. Alison is at John's sisters in Masvingo, and her husband Carl is expected back from Bulawayo tonight.

Lorna's telephone no. is Zw code 39-264323 ; Ali is on 011216643
Our Phone Landline is 039-266080
Cell Phone Nos. 011-215275 ; 023-258810

John and Joy from Chidza.

Sad state of affairs. :mad: