Goodbye copper. Hello fibre! - But not in South Africa

Oi and here Telkom can't even deliver a 4mbps ADSL line to ALL it's customers. We can live in hope...maybe in 15 years time?
 
gregmcc said:
And SA....0%? :(
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While I doubt it is a high number, as the cost is relatively high and is targeted at businesses, Neotel offer Fiber to the Premises if I remember correctly. So it wont quite be 0% :-)
 
While we have made much progress in the last few years... We are still years away from catching up with the rest of the world.

We need innovative companies that are willing to band together and invest in a new network. Waiting for Telkom and LLU is a waste of time. They will be too late to the party.

Hopefully by 2015 we will see new companies rolling out their own residential fiber networks carrying triple play products. Each smaller company can then lease their network to the national grid or to the bigger providers.

Telkom will be a rotting old shell of a company by then.
 
If so, how come my whole neighbourhood from work to home are getting fibre installed? All over?
 
profpanda said:
If so, how come my whole neighbourhood from work to home are getting fibre installed? All over?
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Because it is still too expensive in South Africa at this stage.... and they are not guaranteed a return on investment. Only when they have a provider with a nicely packaged product (Telephone service, internet and Television all in one at a great price) will they consider laying out the R1000 per meter that it takes to bring the connection to your house.
 
JStrike said:
While I doubt it is a high number, as the cost is relatively high and is targeted at businesses, Neotel offer Fiber to the Premises if I remember correctly. So it wont quite be 0% :-)
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Yes, for business customers, as Telkom has been doing for many years already.

The issue here is FTTH (residential customers!).

Whoever starts will be in a no-win situation as they will cop a lot of flak as to their prioritisation. E.g. Why have you rolled out in Dainfern but not Diepsloot?
 
moggie said:
Yes, for business customers, as Telkom has been doing for many years already.

The issue here is FTTH (residential customers!).

Whoever starts will be in a no-win situation as they will cop a lot of flak as to their prioritisation. E.g. Why have you rolled out in Dainfern but not Diepsloot?
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Would it not perhaps make sense then: starting in areas where the most cable thefts occur in each province & then moving out from that starting point?
 
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C.A.T.S. said:
Would it not perhaps make sense then: starting in areas where the most cable thefts occur in each province & then moving out from that starting point?
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I've had that conversation with moggie in another thread, unfortunately he managed to convince me that it is a lost cause :cry:
 
I fully agree. they should start replacing the stolen copper with fibre. yes it will cost more.. but in the long run should work out cheaper?
 
C.A.T.S. said:
Would it not perhaps make sense then: starting in areas where the most cable thefts occur in each province & then moving out from that starting point?
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MFour said:
I've had that conversation with moggie in another thread, unfortunately he managed to convince me that it is a lost cause :cry:
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It has to do with economics. In order to recoup on your investment in Fibre, you will want to roll it out in your highest income generating areas first.

This unfortunately does not match the copper theft areas....
 
Jeez I'm tired of reading how other parts of the world are moving forward while we have to bide by the one miserable company that cannot even maintain our copper effectively.
 
DeathStrike said:
I fully agree. they should start replacing the stolen copper with fibre. yes it will cost more.. but in the long run should work out cheaper?
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Then everybody will steal the copper cables in their own neighbourhoods so they can get fibre :p
 
evilstebunny said:
Jeez I'm tired of reading how other parts of the world are moving forward while we have to bide by the one miserable company that cannot even maintain our copper effectively.
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Two companies. Don't forget that Neotel should have been a wireline operator but chose to go the CDMA route instead.
 
My copper line was running with snr margins of 5db and line attenuation rates of 63.5db, a 4mb line could barely sync at 1024kbps. Then a port was found for me at the mini dslam on the fibre optic backbone so from my home to the mini dslam is on copper but from the dslam to the exchange is on fibre. Net result is snr margins of 30db and line attenuation rates of 10db, line syncs at 4096kbps and is capable of up to 11800kbps. It's gone from unusable to stunningly good...
 
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