Arab guilty of rape after consensual sex with Jew

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http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/jul/21/arab-guilty-rape-consensual-sex-jew

A Palestinian man has been convicted of rape after having consensual sex with a woman who had believed him to be a fellow Jew.

Sabbar Kashur, 30, was sentenced to 18 months in prison on Monday after the court ruled that he was guilty of rape by deception. According to the complaint filed by the woman with the Jerusalem district court, the two met in downtown Jerusalem in September 2008 where Kashur, an Arab from East Jerusalem, introduced himself as a Jewish bachelor seeking a serious relationship. The two then had consensual sex in a nearby building before Kashur left.

When she later found out that he was not Jewish but an Arab, she filed a criminal complaint for rape and indecent assault.

Although Kashur was initially charged with rape and indecent assault, this was changed to a charge of rape by deception as part of a plea bargain arrangement.

Handing down the verdict, Tzvi Segal, one of three judges on the case, acknowledged that sex had been consensual but said that although not "a classical rape by force," the woman would not have consented if she had not believed Kashur was Jewish.

The sex therefore was obtained under false pretences, the judges said. "If she hadn't thought the accused was a Jewish bachelor interested in a serious romantic relationship, she would not have cooperated," they added.

The court ruled that Kashur should receive a jail term and rejected the option of a six-month community service order. He was said to be seeking to appeal.

Segal said: "The court is obliged to protect the public interest from sophisticated, smooth-tongued criminals who can deceive innocent victims at an unbearable price – the sanctity of their bodies and souls. When the very basis of trust between human beings drops, especially when the matters at hand are so intimate, sensitive and fateful, the court is required to stand firmly at the side of the victims – actual and potential – to protect their wellbeing. Otherwise, they will be used, manipulated and misled, while paying only a tolerable and symbolic price."

Gideon Levy, a liberal Israeli commentator, was quoted as saying: "I would like to raise only one question with the judge. What if this guy had been a Jew who pretended to be a Muslim and had sex with a Muslim woman?

"Would he have been convicted of rape? The answer is: of course not."

Arabs constitute about 20% of Israel's population, but relationships between Jews and Arabs are rare. There are few mixed neighbourhoods or towns, and Arabs suffer routine discrimination.

Israeli MPs are considering a law requiring prospective Israeli citizens to declare loyalty to Israel as a "Jewish, democratic state". Many Arabs would balk at swearing allegiance to a state which they see as explicitly excluding or marginalising them.

Dan Meridor, a deputy prime minister in Binyamin Netanyahu's government, is opposed to the proposal. "Why does every bill need the word 'Jewish' in it – to show the Arab citizens that it doesn't belong to them? Then we're all shocked when they radicalise their stance.

"The majority doesn't need to remind the minority that it is in fact a minority all the time," he added.

Honestly wtf? So if I tell an innocent lie like "I'm loaded" to get her into bed and she finds out and decides to be vengeful, I'm as good as done for. F***ing double standards over there.
 
Like the old apartheid days, a coloured that looks white says he's white... then reveals he is coloured, rape!
 
She opened her snatch to somebody she barely knew and now she's blaming him for lying :wtf:
 
The sex therefore was obtained under false pretences ...

Wonder how this would fly in SA, think that you may get convicted as well.

Let's say you obtain sex by stating that you are a wealthy bachelor, and that you are seeking a serious relationship that may lead to marriage.

But you are a low-life scumbag, maybe even married.

IMHO you could get nailed here as well.
 
I can see why this person would be upset and call rape. For most of us its a really stupid reason to call rape. Now imagine it was with two muslims and the one muslim said to the other muslim after having sex that he is not muslim and used a pig skin condom. How would the female Muslim feel?

While its consensual sex... one could see how the deception could freak people out for retarded religious reasons.
 
I can see why this person would be upset and call rape. For most of us its a really stupid reason to call rape. Now imagine it was with two muslims and the one muslim said to the other muslim after having sex that he is not muslim and used a pig skin condom. How would the female Muslim feel?

While its consensual sex... one could see how the deception could freak people out for retarded religious reasons.

It would be even worse if the Muslim woman turned round and said, "I'm actually a man, congratulations you're gay!" Reminds me of a joke...

Yeah, its a silly judgment. People exist under false pretences all the time.
 
I can see why this person would be upset and call rape. For most of us its a really stupid reason to call rape. Now imagine it was with two muslims and the one muslim said to the other muslim after having sex that he is not muslim and used a pig skin condom. How would the female Muslim feel?

While its consensual sex... one could see how the deception could freak people out for retarded religious reasons.

What a load of cr@p, I mean serious wizard ... pig skin condoms ...............wtf ................. hahahaaa???
 
Not just that, for simple breach of trust as well.

Half of the male population around the world would be locked up then.

Who hear has tweaked the truth a bit or even lied just to get laid?
 
Really stupid. Sure the guy lied but 18 months in jail give me a break. The woman is a gullible fool.

Well at least he's not under Hamas jurisdiction. I wonder what the punishment is there for shagging an infidel.
 
So she threw herself at him on the first date like a horny dirty slut without getting to know him? Was this woman living in a cave since she was born? If you gonna be dumb you gotta be tough, she really needs to just htfu.
 
Both of them are guilty.

The man: for deceiving this woman, having sex with a stranger, impersonating a Jew, and further, having sex out of wedlock, which is a serious sin in Islam.
The woman: for having sex with a stranger off the streets, and I'm not sure if sex out of wedlock is a sin in Judaism, but still you don't just sleep around with anyone (or do you?)

Stupid idots. Behave like animals and then want to cry about it afterwards.
 
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Really stupid. Sure the guy lied but 18 months in jail give me a break. The woman is a gullible fool.

Well at least he's not under Hamas jurisdiction. I wonder what the punishment is there for shagging an infidel.

Death.

Theres that Palestinian Muslim that became friends with an Israeli Jew online... they arrested him a while ago, and the journalist that tried to free him. Hamas = sick religious government.
 
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