Bin Laden 'spotted in village meeting'

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Source: http://www.iol.co.za/index.php?set_id=1&click_id=3&art_id=iol1280212676116L352&page_number=1

Secret files leaked about the war in Afghanistan have revealed tantalising glimpses of Osama Bin Laden despite public CIA claims that they are clueless as to the whereabouts of the Al Qaeda boss.

The claims are among 91 000 US military records obtained by whistle-blowing website WikiLeaks.

Leon Panetta, director of the CIA, said last month that there have been no firm leads on Bin Laden's whereabouts since the 'early 2000s'.

But a 'threat report' from the International Security Assistance Force regional command (north) on suicide bombers in August 2006 suggested Bin Laden had been attending regular meetings in villages on the border between Pakistan and Afghanistan.

It said: "Reportedly a high-level meeting was held where six suicide bombers were given orders for an operation in northern Afghanistan. These meetings take place once every month."

According to the Guardian, which has received the documents, the report went on: "The top four people in these meetings are Mullah Omar [the Taliban leader], Osama Bin Laden, Mullah Dadullah and Mullah [Baradar]."

If true, it could mean forces came close to having the opportunity to wipe out the senior leadership of the Afghan insurgency that has so far claimed the lives of 320 British soldiers.

The war logs also show that Bin Laden had a hand in a plot to poison coalition forces by adding a powder to food and drink consumed by troops as they passed through villages.

These documents also suggest coalition forces have killed hundreds of civilians in so-called 'blue on white' incidents which were never reported.

This fresh-faced soldier could be responsible for leaking a massive file of secret military documents revealing chilling details of the Afghanistan war and civilian deaths.

The leak is said to be US Army intelligence expert Bradley Manning, 22, who boasted he had downloaded hundreds of thousands of documents, according to computer hacker Adrian Lamo.

The 22-year-old, pictured above, is said to have contacted Lamo out of the blue and then claimed he had saved high-security files onto CDs, ready to hand to Wikileaks, while pretending to listen to Lady Gaga.

"Hillary Clinton and several thousand diplomats around the world are going to have a heart attack when they wake up one morning and find an entire repository of classified foreign policy is available, in searchable format, to the public," he apparently told Mr Lamo.

The hacker got in touch with the US military and later met with them in Starbucks to hand over a printout of his conversations with Manning.

Manning has already been charged over a separate leak of a classified helicopter cockpit video earlier this month.

It showed US soldiers laughing as they gunned down Afghan civilians and two journalists in a firefight in Baghdad in 2007.

He was picked up in Iraq, where he was working.

Manning is said to be locked up in a military prison after being shipped across the border to Kuwait.

He faces trial by court martial and, if found guilty, a heavy jail sentence.

Mr Lamo believes Manning did not work alone, saying he did not have 'the technological expertise' to carry out the gathering and leaking of the documents.

"I believe somebody would have had to have been of assistance to him," he said.

They include claims that 16 children were among those shot or bombed in error by British troops.

The leaked military logs also reveal how a secret 'black' unit of crack special forces hunt down Taliban leaders for 'kill or capture' without trial - and voice concerns that Pakistani intelligence and Iran are supporting the insurgents.

Downing Street said it 'would lament all unauthorised releases of classified material' and the White House condemned the 'irresponsible' leak of the files.

And military and intelligence experts warned yesterday that the leaks could imperil the lives of British forces in Afghanistan.

Colonel Stuart Tootal, who in 2006 commanded 3rd Battalion Parachute Regiment in Helmand Province - where more than 320 UK soldiers have been killed - said the information 'could impact on the security of our soldiers'.

He insisted Nato forces now put a 'huge emphasis' on avoiding civilian casualties.

Tory MP Patrick Mercer, a former Army captain, said: "Although much of this information is in the public domain, the details are particularly damaging to the credibility of the coalition.

"Our enemies will be quick to exploit the propaganda element of it.

"If there are details of operational matters - locations, equipment, troops movements, resources - then soldiers' lives could be placed at risk."

Details of the secret files, detailing military operations between 2004 and 2009, were published yesterday by the Guardian, New York times and Germany's Der Spiegel while more than 75 000 records were made available on the WikiLeaks website.

The files list 144 incidents involving Afghan civilian casualties, in which 195 died and 174 were injured.

They detail coalition forces - fearful of suicide bombers - shooting unarmed drivers and civilian motorcyclists, and record an incident when French troops opened fire at a bus full of children because it came too close to a military convoy.

Other leaked documents record a US patrol machine-gunning a bus, killing or wounding 15 passengers, and Polish troops mortaring a village, killing a wedding party including a pregnant woman.

They reveal details of undercover operations by a US special forces unit named task Force 373, formed to hunt down and kill or capture taliban and Al Qaeda commanders.

According to Julian Assange, the founder of the website, the files contain details of 'thousands' of potential war crimes.

At a press conference in London, he defended his decision to publish the files and claimed the high level of civilian casualties reported was in fact lower than the true figure because military personnel 'downplayed' the number or reported them as insurgent deaths.

Mr Assange said: "We have tried hard to make sure that this material does not put innocents at harm.

"All the material is over seven months old so it is of no current operational consequence, even though it may be of very significant investigative consequence.

"The revelation of abuse by the US and coalition forces may cause Afghans to be upset, and rightly so.

"If governments don't like populations being upset, they should treat them better, not conceal abuses."

Professor Malcolm Chalmers, a defence expert at the Royal United Services Institute think tank, said that the leaks could undermine already faltering public support for the war. - Daily Mail

The CIA definitely knows Bin Laden's whereabouts. Do you really believe that they can't find him after almost 10 years? :rolleyes:

He's probably staying in some secret American hideout anyway.. :D

Tinfoil hats anyone?
 
hopefully this will REALLY open the world's eyes to what the americans are doing out there. maybe it will open the americans eyes too, because it appears they have got no *****ing idea whatsoever
 
he is still on the CIA payroll and been there since the USA supplied him with weapons to fight the Russians.
 
Meh, in my opinion, i dont think they will ever find him and if they do, they wouldnt know what the **** to do after cause thats all they do. Look for 'terrorists' and try to protect the world.
 
Tinfoil lunacy running rampant here.

So like reportedly Osama and his homies were strolling around the local villages and nobody did anything about it.
 
Didn't they once say he was dead?

Who's 'they'? A number of talking heads in the mainstream media have speculated to that end.

But it's unlikely. If you were Al-Qaeda, would you not publish Osama's obituary when he dies? Imagine the propaganda boost you'd get if you could deonstrate that America's public enemy #1 was called to Allah by natural causes, and all the might of the imperial war machine couldn't get to him. He's almost certainly still alive.

From the perspective of the Americans, I don't think they're gonna move mountains to find him. As long as he's still alive, it's another reason for the War on Terror. Not that they'll stop when he does die.

The files leaked by Wikileaks are genuine articles, although the CIA might well be lying in its own reports. I can't imagine Osama strolling through villages in the open, somehow, but I guess stranger things have happened.
 
lets have a poll asking if Osama is
alive and living under his own will (as in normal life)
or dead
or in CIA custody and if so
is he living the high life as in some luxury apartment or some other sort of lekker life
or treated like an inmate
 
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