White Males still dominate business

The commission recommended that it needed to by investigated why there was resistance to progress and racism in the workplace.
I can understand that they are upset about resistance to progress. But why upset about the resistance to racism?

"Actually, I'm feeling quite angry that we still find ourselves in the same situation we were in 10 years ago.
Maybe you should ask your buddies in the education ministries about that?
 
I wish people would get over this 'race' business. Has anyone stopped to think that perhaps the guys in those management positions are more skilled and suited for the positions than any other person (regardless of race).
 

it is what you want....

I give you the idea how to do things "differently, quicker and faster"....

1) Taxes on WHITE. EVERY WHITE person will pay R100000.00 HEAD Count tax per annual.
2) Taxes on WHITE OWN properties. A WHITE own property, will be taxed R1 mil. per annual.
3) Companies do not allow to employee WHITE people from now.
4) White cannot transfer their money out of the country.

I guarantee, less than one year, WHITE population will drop to less than 1 %. And most of the money in WHITE hands will "transfer" to BLACK hands more "quicker and faster". Employment of BLACK managements will be more than 99%.

You don’t need to do the same way as zim, you can do thing quicker and faster than zim. Do things “LEGALLY”. :D

Trust me, it will work. ;)

PS: White people, if you don't like it, leave! :D (anc told you already!)

:rolleyes:

:D
 
I wish people would get over this 'race' business. Has anyone stopped to think that perhaps the guys in those management positions are more skilled and suited for the positions than any other person (regardless of race).

I guess what they're saying is that there is some racism preventing transformation.
 
Yep, you can paint a tiger any color but he still has his spots, only maybe temporary hidden. If you quickly want to Fsuck up any institution or business give it the those that do not deserve it and/or cannot manage. We see the results/examples everyday. Telkom?, Eskom? Government?
 
I guess what they're saying is that there is some racism preventing transformation.

Then shouldn't they be going to the HRC instead of changing BEE/AA requirements?
 
Yep, you can paint a tiger any color but he still has his spots, only maybe temporary hidden. If you quickly want to Fsuck up any institution or business give it the those that do not deserve it and/or cannot manage. We see the results/examples everyday. Telkom?, Eskom? Government?
I don't think it a question of not being able to manage it is that government involvement tends to mess things up. There are a lot of black CEO's and managers in the private sector doing very very well. Parastatals are a problem because politics take over business sense.
 
Then shouldn't they be going to the HRC instead of changing BEE/AA requirements?
It shows strong race based resistance to voluntary change which is why you needed AA/BEE to start with. At the moment this is more voluntary as not meeting those requirements has consequences such as not getting government work, etc, but these people are obviously happy to live without government business. People are refusing to change on their own.
 
I guess what they're saying is that there is some racism preventing transformation.

Transformation is happening. Look at ads for vacancies. Walk into any corporate. It is happening. What people fail to realise is that senior positions take time. You can't buy/transfer 20 or 30 years' worth of experience. It just doesn't work like that. The economic landscape is strewn with debris from forced top-level appointments that were done for the wrong reasons. Patience, they are coming through the ranks.
 
I don't think it a question of not being able to manage it is that government involvement tends to mess things up. There are a lot of black CEO's and managers in the private sector doing very very well. Parastatals are a problem because politics take over business sense.

I never argued the point and I agree with you but there are thousands of non deserving people that got the job....well because they got the job somehow. :whistle: :whistle: Therefore the many issues we read about, see and experience personally every day..
 
Transformation is happening. Look at ads for vacancies. Walk into any corporate. It is happening. What people fail to realise is that senior positions take time. You can't buy/transfer 20 or 30 years' worth of experience. It just doesn't work like that. The economic landscape is strewn with debris from forced top-level appointments that were done for the wrong reasons. Patience, they are coming through the ranks.

Yes transformation is happening but there are obviously people actively working to frustrate these efforts.
 
Maybe you should ask your buddies in the education ministries about that?


+1

Education is the only answer and the quality of job seekers that we get is abysmal. You cant employee or promote people, whom dont even have a basic education even though they have passed through a tertiary institution. They have lowered the standards of education to assist development which is fundamentally wrong, and then want to try and punish business.
 
I'm not gonna comment on this story, but I'll share an observation that I've made over the last couple of years which may contribute.

What I've been noticing is that, due to AA making it extremely difficult for white people to get work, a huge amount of white people are simply starting up their own businesses rather than actually applying for jobs. I come from the hospitality industry, which is one of the strongest industries in South Africa, and of the people who graduated with me a couple of years back, VERY few actually work in hotels...some run businesses that organize functions and setup for major concerts, while a suprising majority have started travel desks and plan holidays and tours for foreigners. In fact, now that I think about it, the vast majority of the ones that still work in hotels are working in hotels overseas (although, to be fair, that may just be because the hotel industry in South Africa is not a particularly pleasant one to work in).

The prevailing opinion that I've come across (spanning most industries that I've had contact with) is that the best way for white people to get work and make a decent living is to avoid the job market all together, or to get work through your contacts and friends. The general move in global business towards specialisation is what opens up the gaps in the markets for all these companies to fill.

The impact of so many businesses being started up by whites is that the number of white managers stays very high, while if you look at the big parastatals you would be hard pressed to find a white manager anywhere. One should keep in mind that the vast majority of employees that these new businesses hire are blacks and coloureds.

Just food for thought.
 
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