US media urges Zuma to withdraw proposals

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http://news.za.msn.com/article.aspx?cp-documentid=154421252

Well at least some see the real ANC threat.

"The Protection of Information Bill currently before parliament is meant to replace an apartheid-era law dating from 1982... it would virtually shield the government from the scrutiny of the independent press and criminalise activities essential to investigative journalism, a vital public service," the letter said.

Journalists, under the proposed law, would face "heavy" jail time for violations.
 
If this bill actually passes, I think we should make a facebook group encouraging people to email the big international media houses before the ANC decides to censor the net... I'm sure they'd take notice if they all get bombarded with thousands of emails on the subject ;)
 
Someone sent me this via email :

Tips for the unconnected, like me
& important technicalities for those not familiar with Press procedures.

To reach the newspapers, name your publication in the Google Search panel, and your search engine will take you to the Letters-to-editor or appropriate email address of almost every daily, weekly and local or community newspaper in the land. Usually you will also find these addresses at the foot of the Leader (Editorial) Page.
Heaven knows how you voice your view on radio – but as you are aware millions do it with constant ease.


Here are samples of two-sentence “one-liners” that instantly jump to mind and which can be expressed more adequately in different ways:

– Under the current circumstances, the public statement [by Ronnie Kasrils on radio this morning] that “I don’t mind a Tribunal, as long as it is independent” is not only an oxymoron, it is an insidious and dangerous distortion of the facts.
The government already claims its Tribunal will be ‘independent’. That’s precisely what the Apartheid government claimed when it tried to pass legislation to ‘officially recognise’ the existing independent Press Council in the 1980s. Fortunately, at the last minute, informed local and world pressure prevented that happening.

– Beware, and examine, current arguments in favour of legislation to curb the media or to create a Press Tribunal. The logic and the motives are as old and as falsely reasoned as the arguments set up against free speech two centuries ago. They are the same as the arguments used by the Apartheid government against the press two decades ago. Because the media are so transparently inaccurate at times and inefficient, the arguments for curtailing them are easily accepted … but dangerously misleading.

– The current issue is less about the complaints of the government and the rights of the press, than it is about the freedom of every citizen, and about the reputation and stability of our country.

– Jeremy Cronin has inferred that a Press Tribunal could get rid of the ‘sleaze’ of the tabloid press. But why should anyone have the right to stop the largest group of newspaper readers in the country from enjoying a brief diet of sensation, sex and soccer if they wish? Would he ban the reading of communist propaganda?

– Why does the government not start instead with a State Tribunal that will hold public hearings to test the veracity and honesty of politicians and bureaucrats, and examine publicly the complaints raised by disenchanted whistleblowers? It could inquire into accusations (appearing mainly in the press) about corruption or maladministration in corporations, NGOs, parastatals and ministerial offices. Such a commission could save the press from itself – and, more importantly, the government from itself.

- There are many Members of Parliament whose memories and ideas of freedom are so easily overpowered that they should be made to write the following sentence 100 times: “Any Press Tribunal set up by the STATE, even if staffed and elected by journalists, is - for wellknown and farsighted reasons - anathema to a ‘free’ press, to the Free World and to the principle of freedom of information”.

– There may be 50 reasons why a government watchdog (“to watch the public’s watchdog”) can bring silence and comfort to the State and to many of its self-satisfied citizens. But there are 100 compelling, irrefutable reasons concerning principle and practice of freedom of speech which show that a State-empowered body of this kind, whatever its make-up must inevitably be dangerous to everyone but demagogues.

– If the current idea within the ANC did not come from racist apartheid days, did it come from the ex-totalitarian communist states, where press control also crippled justice, corrupted governance and caused untold misery? It is difficult to think of any other source.

– There is an adage – ‘Doctors bury their mistakes. Newspapers put theirs on the front page’ – which is true, and which is permissible in practice, even if irritating in newspapers when they put their corrections on P 21. But it is never permissible in a self-proclaimed democracy for a government to deny its mistakes and prevent the media from publishing them.

From the above you will see how our experiences from the past should remind us how insidious and beguiling it is to confuse press freedom with press ‘responsibility’. And how different is a Press Tribunal from a registered Medical or Legal or any other disciplinary professional body not dealing in ‘facts’, opinions or claimed ‘truths’.
And how necessary it is for governments and the public to be reminded of the facts concerning freedom, and the right of everyone to speak out..
How many times have you heard any politician explaining why the existing Press Council is suddenly inadequate?
Have you heard any critic explaining why he rejects the current body, with its three-tier successive appeals against judgements? As I recall, its structure currently starts with an Ombudsdman, rising to a three-member panel (a ‘tribunal’!) consisting of a retired Supreme Court Judge, a journalist and a member of the public – and rising to a third appeal hearing by a broader panel of people outside the Press – before a complainant need turn to the SA Courts for justice.
Does anybody believe a government- appointed Tribunal of self-proclaimed independent and paid commissioners will do any better? Would the government want them to do better – or even to be concerned about the facts of maladministration and justice?
 
well the constitution does allow for it.

that maybe so, but it's immoral to do something like this... although, this new Bill is basically going to be like Bubba, your prison cell mate, turning off the lights before he rapes you... you might not see whats going on, but you know whats happening and it would have happened with or without the lights on... However, this Bill has bad news written all over it where by the Gov will be squandering money left right and center, us the taxpayers will be none the wiser, and there will be no pressure for them to even apply a little thought to stop.

Honestly, I think this is infringing my rights as a citizen. I would like to know how the government (which I 'trust' from the roads I drive on to the education my hypothetical children will use) that runs my country conducts it's business. If SARS has the right to investigate me, and if I'm paying the right amount of tax, then I expect the independent media to nose around the government and make sure their socks are pulled up. After all, when the cat's away, the mice will play.
 
International input will just make these "people" in power more determent to force their collective will down on 100% of SA.
And nothing! Nothing can stop them.
 
International input will just make these "people" in power more determent to force their collective will down on 100% of SA.
And nothing! Nothing can stop them.

This is the age of the Internet. It is becoming harder and harder for Governments to control the flow of information. :D

Just look at what happened in Iran.
 
If this bill get passed, it will destroy one of the things that differentiated us from other African countries :(
 
If this bill get passed, it will destroy one of the things that differentiated us from other African countries :(

It will also destroy the last thing that differentiated us from the Apartheid regime.

Now we also have corruption, legalised racism, lack of press freedom. Snap ??? :cry: :wtf:
 
It will also destroy the last thing that differentiated us from the Apartheid regime.

Now we also have corruption, legalised racism, lack of press freedom. Snap ??? :cry: :wtf:

The last thing that differentiated us from Apartheid?

I must not have noticed the state imposed pass system and curfew for white folks.

Title was a little misleading I thought the actual US government was urging Msholozi. Not just their media.
 
International input will just make these "people" in power more determent to force their collective will down on 100% of SA.

What are you talking about ?? If you know someone is "watching", then a govt is less likely to engage in abuse of the rights of their citizens.

It will also destroy the last thing that differentiated us from the Apartheid regime.

Now we also have corruption, legalised racism, lack of press freedom. Snap ??? :cry: :wtf:

In the letters column of this past weekend's Star, someone remarked that "the transformation from the ANC to the NP is virtually complete" ;)
 
I must not have noticed the state imposed pass system and curfew for white folks.

No pass system but a self imposed curfew for most South African's who choose to stay in their little "jails" at night.
 
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