HTC DESIRE HD [Archive]

Shads

27-09-2010, 12:03 PM

Well, LEAF says the phone should be in SA by end of October! I asked if that means the stores will have it by end of October and they confirmed that it will be!

So I guess I'm pushing my upgrade date back to get this phone.

Anyone else read up on this phone? Your opinions?

Thanks

Daniedj

27-09-2010, 12:18 PM

I've read up on it. I'm due for upgrade in December. Will go for this phone if the price is right.

bsntombela

27-09-2010, 12:27 PM

Shads

27-09-2010, 12:33 PM

Just noticed the phone supports DLNA (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digital_Living_Network_Alliance) which means it can stream media and stuff. That sounds great. Unfortunately, I've already upgraded to the iPhone 4

So if you had a choice, you would have taken the Desire HD? I'm asking as I don't quite know if I should upgrade now to the iPhone 4 or wait for this. The Desire HD does sound amazing!

bsntombela

27-09-2010, 01:16 PM

So if you had a choice, you would have taken the Desire HD? I'm asking as I don't quite know if I should upgrade now to the iPhone 4 or wait for this. The Desire HD does sound amazing!

Don't get me wrong, the iPhone 4 is a beautiful piece of technology, but the flexibility and scalability offered by the Android OS really is something to pev over.

Like many have said before, it really depends on what you want in a phone. Desire HD is unfortunately currently not available, so comparing a phone that does not "exist yet" to the iPhone 4 would rather not be realistic.

I would recommend you wait till Desire comes out and see what people have to say about it first..then make your decision...and by then the iPhone 4 would have been well entrenched within the masses and you'd know exactly if you'd be still interested or not

Le^stat

27-09-2010, 01:57 PM

i can only upgrade in 2012 :(

HTC Desire HD2 ??:confused:

rogerwe

27-09-2010, 02:52 PM

Anyone else read up on this phone? Your opinions?

I've been doing research on the phone, albeit a bit differently. Instead of reading reviews, I've searched for YouTube videos: HTC Desire vs IPhone 4. They're pretty much equal contenders. The only thing that makes iPhone 4 much better is its amazing crystal clear screen. The other area the the iPhone "beats" the Android (HTC) desire is the number of applications. (iPHone has 200 000, Andriod has 50 000). I really don't care about application availability and quantity.

I'm gunning for the HTC Desire HD when I'm due for my upgrade in November. I hope MTN will have it available at similar pricing to the "normal" HTC Desire. (R329 per month on contract).

dhirennaidoo

29-09-2010, 01:23 PM

Howzit guys,

The phone will probably be in the country by mid- to end-October, but by the time MTN releases it on contract, it might be more November-ish. Just sharing what I know (work part-time in sales for Leaf). Not sure about Vodacom...

Honest opinion, having played with the iPhone 4, the screen is wicked, camera's good, but personal preference for me, for software, I'd go for Android. Small things like object push (sending files via Bluetooth) not available on a normal iPhone (not counting jailbroken phones here) kinda irritate me. The interface is brilliant though, and I find the on-screen keyboard a tad more accurate than the Desire's. Desire's camera has more settings to play with though, and seems of similar quality.

Will let you guys know if I hear anything about pricing...

EDIT : The above post was made in a personal capacity, NOT as any type of official message from Leaf S.A.

xrapidx

29-09-2010, 01:42 PM

Well, LEAF says the phone should be in SA by end of October!

Didn't leaf say the same thing about the Desire last year this time....

:rolleyes:

WingNut

29-09-2010, 02:13 PM

Sweet, guess I'll wait for the HD. End of Oct is not far away, and I'm a patient man...

dhirennaidoo

29-09-2010, 08:06 PM

Didn't leaf say the same thing about the Desire last year this time....

:rolleyes:

Remember, the networks and various retail stores also play a part in the delay. "In the country" doesn't necessarily mean "available to the public".

xrapidx

29-09-2010, 09:35 PM

Remember, the networks and various retail stores also play a part in the delay. "In the country" doesn't necessarily mean "available to the public".

Well then leaf should do something about Vodacom/MTN always saying its them... in fact - Leaf should do something about their store also saying it hasn't arrive. Whats the point of saying its in the country then? Just so they can? Then they might as well import one model now and say its in the country.

dhirennaidoo

30-09-2010, 08:48 AM

I'm just saying, there's more than one person involved in things like these. I didn't say Leaf uses the term "in the country" to imply anything, I'm just using the OP's post as an example that one can never really know what goes on between the different companies.

xrapidx

30-09-2010, 08:58 AM

Considering its usually HTC phones that have supply issues... it generally starts with the supplier.

Just about every HTC phone I've tried to get has had issues, e.g. Tytn 2, HD2, Desire,

alt146

30-09-2010, 10:06 AM

Well then leaf should do something about Vodacom/MTN always saying its them... in fact - Leaf should do something about their store also saying it hasn't arrive. Whats the point of saying its in the country then? Just so they can? Then they might as well import one model now and say its in the country.

In the country normally means you can buy it cash from lab88

xrapidx

30-09-2010, 10:10 AM

In the country normally means you can buy it cash from lab88

Tried that with both the HD2 and the Desire... even logged a complaint through the HTC website which was assigned to lab88 - which was just ignored.

Shads

01-10-2010, 08:56 AM

Seems the HTC Desire HD is the phone to beat!

http://www.knowyourmobile.com/comparisons/599988/htc_desire_hd_vs_apple_iphone_4.html

http://www.knowyourmobile.com/comparisons/608793/htc_desire_hd_vs_samsung_galaxy_s.html

Now if they could just get the phone already!

alt146

01-10-2010, 08:59 AM

Tried that with both the HD2 and the Desire... even logged a complaint through the HTC website which was assigned to lab88 - which was just ignored.

That's wierd. I know the lab88 at vodaworld had the Desire in stock about two/three weeks before Vodacom released them.

Shads

01-10-2010, 10:52 AM

HTC Desire HD to be available from Vodacom in the first week of November and at MTN from the second week of November. Six weeks to wait!!! :(

xrapidx

01-10-2010, 11:00 AM

Desire or Desire HD?

rogerwe

01-10-2010, 11:04 AM

HTC Desire to be available from Vodacom in the first week of November and at MTN from the second week of November. Six weeks to wait!!! :(

Cool!, just in time for my upgrade. I hope MTN don't have stupid conditions like a stupid selection of data contracts tied to it.

Shads

01-10-2010, 12:15 PM

Sorry, meant Desire HD

Chriscross0072

05-10-2010, 04:00 PM

can't wait, I was due for an upgrade 2 weeks ago but I'm waiting for this phone. Does anyone know about a waiting list or something like that?

Shads

05-10-2010, 04:22 PM

I contacted MTN in Gateway. They don't have a list yet, but I made them start one and my name is right on top! :)

LancelotSA

05-10-2010, 04:30 PM

Shads, I thought you had set your sights on the N8? ;)

http://bigphonefight.com/htc-desire-hd-vs-nokia-n8-review

The HD Desire looks interesting but I think I have come to realise that the camera is probably one of the most important things for me. I would definitely like to test drive this phone, just unfortunate that this cannot be done in this country.

rorz0r

05-10-2010, 04:41 PM

If it helps you the camera on the Desire sucks balls...

LancelotSA

05-10-2010, 04:46 PM

If it helps you the camera on the Desire sucks balls...

Damn! Another one off the list.... ;)

I am lead to believe the HD is a lot better though but I really wish they would install a Xenon flash as standard on a top end "media" device.

Shads

05-10-2010, 06:24 PM

[QUOTE=LancelotSA;4815082]Shads, I thought you had set your sights on the N8? ;)

http://bigphonefight.com/htc-desire-hd-vs-nokia-n8-review

Don't remind me! I think I'm the most confused I've ever been. I really liked the Desire HD since I read up on it, but when I heard the release date is still a couple of months away, I decided to get the Nokia N8 - since the camera is unbelievable!

Now I heard that it is coming to SA first / second week of November. So I might just as well wait. I'll miss out on the camera, but that's ok. I just think the Desire HD is the best overall phone for me. I think we should swap phones for a week :)

LancelotSA

05-10-2010, 07:15 PM

Now I heard that it is coming to SA first / second week of November. So I might just as well wait. I'll miss out on the camera, but that's ok. I just think the Desire HD is the best overall phone for me. I think we should swap phones for a week :)

It really would be ideal to test the phones for a week before buying!

It definitely does boil down to what you value most in a phone. If I think about my usage I realise why I lean so heavily in favour of the phone with the exceptional camera. I use my phone for the following, in order of most used :

Calls
Messages
Alarm
Photos
Some web browsing
GPS
And then other things like daily weather forecasts etc
With an FM transmitter I'm sure I'd use it for music a lot more too.

Now the camera is even used by me to "scan" documents for work. I'll photograph them and then print to pdf if I do not have a scanner handy. For me having got used to a xenon flash a phone with anything less would just feel like a step backwards.

Kloon

08-10-2010, 01:10 PM

HTC Desire HD already on MTN pricelist http://myscoop.co.za/b/EdrxAiO

xrapidx

08-10-2010, 01:16 PM

Would be nice if they dont screw up on stock AGAIN... I need a new one desperately... Vodacom PLEASE!

Shads

08-10-2010, 02:47 PM

HTC Desire HD already on MTN pricelist http://myscoop.co.za/b/EdrxAiO

Ooh thank you!!! You're my hero!!!

HapticSimian

08-10-2010, 02:49 PM

HTC Desire HD already on MTN pricelist http://myscoop.co.za/b/EdrxAiO

Anyone want an almost new rooted Desire? :D

Mike_De_Lange

08-10-2010, 02:57 PM

If it helps you the camera on the Desire sucks balls...

Well it's only 4MP/5MP...The HTC Desire HD has an 8MB camera. Iphone4 has a 5MP camera btw...

Shads

08-10-2010, 02:58 PM

The Desire is going to be awesome! The phone to have! And the price is way lower thn expected! Can't wait! I WANT ONE NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!

Shads

08-10-2010, 03:28 PM

I just looked at the other prices. HTC Desire is cheaper thn the Samsung, iPhone 4 and Nokia N8. And in my opinion, the Desire HD is the best! I don't mind!

Shads

09-10-2010, 03:11 PM

I see that MTN has removed the price of the Desire hd as well as the Nokia N8 from their site. Ah well, the wait continues :(

LancelotSA

09-10-2010, 03:32 PM

I just looked at the other prices. HTC Desire is cheaper thn the Samsung, iPhone 4 and Nokia N8. And in my opinion, the Desire HD is the best! I don't mind!

What were those prices while they were there?

Shads

09-10-2010, 04:11 PM

HTC Desire HD was R249 for anytime 100, Nokia N8 and Samsung Galaxy anytime 100 for R279.

CrazYmonkeY159

09-10-2010, 05:56 PM

WOW! those prices are really competitive

im getting the HD

Why is the HD cheaper than the normal Desire according to MTN's price list?

LancelotSA

09-10-2010, 06:09 PM

The delay of the Nokia N8 was big news and made headlines all over the show but I have read very little said about this :

When HTC unveiled the HTC Desire HD and the Desire Z at its London launch event in September, the handsets were labelled with an 'early October' release.

Both devices have recently gone on sale in Asia but it looks like the European launch could be delayed after both handsets failed Google's Type Approval testing processes, testing that the HTC Desire initially failed when it came to market. A launch that was once thought to be on October 7, then mid-October, could now be pushed back to the end of October.

http://www.techweet.com/story/htc-desire-hd-and-desire-z-fall-foul-of-google-testing-get-delayed

Looks like the HTC Desire HD and Desire Z have been delayed.

The reports come in from Major UK retailers. The phones were supposed to launch in the first half of October, but it now looks like it might happen much later.

Customers who pre-ordered got a responce that the devices are delayed due to “Google Type Approval”, which apparently is a process that all Android devices must go through. HTC had a similar delay with the initial Desire phone.

http://zomgitscj.com/2010/10/09/htc-desire-hd-and-desire-z-delayed/

Tim182

10-10-2010, 09:46 PM

Release is pushed back to November all over Europe so will be in SA in December earliest

Shads

11-10-2010, 06:02 AM

That sucks! Big time! Don't know if I have that much patience!

SharkBait

11-10-2010, 08:47 AM

Get an SGS. ;)

Shads

11-10-2010, 08:49 AM

I really would not mind - but I need a flash for my phone. Come on, that's like so basic. How could Samsung forget to put a flash on! Pathetic. Otherwise a great phone!

SharkBait

11-10-2010, 08:54 AM

I really would not mind - but I need a flash for my phone. Come on, that's like so basic. How could Samsung forget to put a flash on! Pathetic. Otherwise a great phone!

I have to agree, but you also have to keep in mind that the SGS is lighter than the Iphone and the HTC Desire HD, which is "something" you will use every day. Photos are only taken at drunken parties. ;)

remus786

11-10-2010, 01:00 PM

Can someone confirm if the Desire HD has a front facing camera for video calling? Im *** lazy and work is blocked for most sites :o

Shads

11-10-2010, 01:02 PM

From what I've heard, it doesn. But honestly speaking, my last few phones have had the feature, and I did not use it once. So not important for me.

remus786

11-10-2010, 01:03 PM

yeah but for me, calling the wife and seeing the kids on ur phone makes a huge difference :(

FarligOpptreden

11-10-2010, 01:22 PM

yeah but for me, calling the wife and seeing the kids on ur phone makes a huge difference :(

...then get a Galaxy S. ;)

Shads

12-10-2010, 12:18 PM

Seems like something is happening overseas:

http://www.mad4mobilephones.com/htc-desire-hd-arriving-in-uk-october-14th/5675/

It might not be too long after that that we should get it in South Africa. Lets all hold thumbs!

Rafterman

12-10-2010, 01:08 PM

The prices from Autopage, just received:

Off-peak 120s R 3,511.00
R135 p/m

Off-peak 120 R 2,713.00
R135 p/m

Business R 1,573.00
R185 p/m

Talk 130 R 1,573.00
R315 p/m

Talk 240 R 1,459.00
R430 p/m

Talk 350s R 1,231.00
R630 p/m

Talk 500s R 775.00
R800 p/m

Talk 1000s FREE
R1540 p/m

xrapidx

13-10-2010, 08:26 AM

Anyone know if vodacom will be getting it in the next 12 months?

Shads

17-10-2010, 10:08 AM

Anyone know if vodacom will be getting it in the next 12 months?

Just read some really good news. Seems the phone is out in Holland! I just hope SA is not gonna be delayed too much!

CrazYmonkeY159

17-10-2010, 11:50 AM

Just read some really good news. Seems the phone is out in Holland! I just hope SA is not gonna be delayed too much!

yes! (http://www.androidguys.com/2010/10/16/htc-desire-hd-starts-shipping-holland/)

Maddmatt

17-10-2010, 02:44 PM

I really would not mind - but I need a flash for my phone. Come on, that's like so basic. How could Samsung forget to put a flash on! Pathetic. Otherwise a great phone!

"Forget"? It's a design decision, they don't "forget" things like that. LED flash is useless. The phone takes decent low-light pics if you set it to night mode.

I wonder how the battery life of this Desire HD is. It has a much smaller battery than the Galaxy S (1250 mAh). How is that going to make it through the day when the Desire already struggles with a 1400 mAh?
Also how does the music quality do.

It looks like an awesome phone but I worry about music quality (apparently HTC sucks at this in general) and battery life. Hard to see if it would be an upgrade from the Galaxy S. I guess it will come down to personal taste.

Domino ZA

18-10-2010, 08:12 AM

Just read some really good news. Seems the phone is out in Holland! I just hope SA is not gonna be delayed too much!

Last week I asked vodacom via twitter when this phone will be available here is their response:

"Usually devices are available in 3-6 months if its passed testing and if the Networks find it suitable for use in SA"

Now I can't wait that long for this phone, so I'm thinking of getting the phone from the UK. I'm just wondering if it will work here on prepaid???

KSINGH

19-10-2010, 09:43 AM

my MTN rep says its usually 3 to 6 months from release date in the US. GSM Arena states Exp. release 2010, October (http://www.gsmarena.com/htc_desire_hd-3468.php)

I waited for the damn iPhone 4 and Galaxy S for so long, so I aint waiting another 3 months.

Shads

19-10-2010, 10:01 AM

It seems to have been released in the UK. I've read the responses in GSM Arena (the bottom of the specs page). People are talking about their experiences with the phone.

I'm just worried that since the Nokia N8 is taking so long to get to SA (It's been released in the UK for a few weeks now), that the Desire might take long as well.

But, I jumped ship and got the Samsung Galaxy S (I get to upgrade my Vodacom contract early next year - and by then the Desire HD should be available or a new / better phone should be out).

Domino ZA

21-10-2010, 06:09 PM

I am considering on getting the HTC Desire HD from the UK. My question is will my current contract work in the phone if I get a sim free phone from the UK. I really don't want to wait 3 - 6 months for the HTC to arrive and I also don't want to go for the Samsung Galaxy S as it may already be classified as an "old phone".

CrazYmonkeY159

21-10-2010, 06:33 PM

so before christmas is highly improbable then?

im alreaddy due for an upgrade (since september) do you think waiting is not worth it?

I don't like TouchWiz so SGS isnt an option for me really

Shads

22-10-2010, 08:12 AM

so before christmas is highly improbable then?

im alreaddy due for an upgrade (since september) do you think waiting is not worth it?

I don't like TouchWiz so SGS isnt an option for me really

I was in the same boat as you! Couldnt decide to wait or not. Spoke to the MTN Rep and he told me 3 - 6 months as well. So, I jumped ship and got the Samsung Galaxy. I have two contracts - one with MTN and one with Vodacom. My Vodacom is due early next year. So, by then there might be better phones or if not, I could always get the Desire HD.

My impressions of the Galaxy HD is very very positive. I dont' have any of the lags people are reporting. The photo's are really very good (I have a 12mp Digital camera at home and compared the photo's and it did not look bad next to it at all), but you can't take night photo's - no flash. The video recording is brilliant! Touch screen is so sensitive! Amazing! And I get about 3 days use from it - with playing videos on it, making calls, etc. Haven't tried the GPS (have a Garmin though).

The_Unnamed

22-10-2010, 08:36 AM

FarligOpptreden

22-10-2010, 09:08 AM

so before christmas is highly improbable then?

im alreaddy due for an upgrade (since september) do you think waiting is not worth it?

I don't like TouchWiz so SGS isnt an option for me really

Have you tried a different application launcher, like Launcher Pro or ADW Launcher yet? You get to keep the niceties of TouchWiz (like the contacts), but get completely different (and customizable) home screens and app drawer. You can also download other (arguably better) keyboards as well. You get Vlingo for free through Samsung Apps and that has a pretty decent keyboard as well. I prefer it above Better Keyboard and the SenseUI keyboard.

jkoekemr

22-10-2010, 02:25 PM

Just called MTN Retentions: they claim the DHD will become available mid-Dec 2010.

CrazYmonkeY159

22-10-2010, 02:34 PM

I just love the build quality of HTC Devices (nothing wrong with SGS) and I also love HTCSense. I also cannot get the normal Desire because well look here (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f9Y5EHIpwNU)

I just wish SA didn't suck so much when it came to keeping up with global technology :mad:

Domino ZA

22-10-2010, 03:17 PM

Awesome news!!! Anyone know if Vodacom will get it? I've noticed this on MTN's website
Manufacturer Model Package Subscription (Including CLI & Excluding IB) Pay-in Freebie description Upgrades
HTC DESIRE HD MTN 100 R 108.00 R 3,479.00 (blank) Upgrade
HTC DESIRE HD MTN 100 R 249.00 R 0.00 (blank) Upgrade
HTC DESIRE HD MTN 200 R 208.00 R 2,569.00 (blank) Upgrade
HTC DESIRE HD MTN 200 R 319.00 R 0.00 (blank) Upgrade
HTC DESIRE HD MTN 350 R 358.00 R 1,369.00 (blank) Upgrade
HTC DESIRE HD MTN 350 R 419.00 R 0.00 (blank) Upgrade
HTC DESIRE HD MTN 500 R 508.00 R 739.00 (blank) Upgrade
HTC DESIRE HD MTN 500 R 539.00 R 0.00 (blank) Upgrade
HTC DESIRE HD MTN 750 R 758.00 R 329.00 (blank) Upgrade
HTC DESIRE HD MTN 750 R 769.00 R 0.00 (blank) Upgrade
HTC DESIRE HD MTN 1200 R 1,179.00 R 0.00 (blank) Upgrade
HTC DESIRE HD MTN 1500 R 1,459.00 R 0.00 (blank) Upgrade

http://www.mtnsp.co.za/Upgrades/Pages/Overview.aspx

CrazYmonkeY159

22-10-2010, 04:00 PM

@Domino

Nokia N8 prices aswell, but they still havnt come? :D

Domino ZA

22-10-2010, 05:24 PM

@Domino

Nokia N8 prices aswell, but they still havnt come? :D

Dammit! you just know how to spoil my weekend ;)

CrazYmonkeY159

22-10-2010, 06:11 PM

Dammit! you just know how to spoil my weekend ;)

I'm sorry man :( hate to be "that guy" but Nokia fanboys in SA are also waiting, the N8 got released a week or so before the Desire HD. So hopefully these two phones will arrive at the same time i hope.

Chriscross0072

23-10-2010, 07:01 PM

ok, just came back from canal walk in Cape Town. There was a HTC promotion stand together with MTN. They even had posters of the Desire HD. The guy from HTC told me that the Desire HD will be available with MTN in the first week of November, but just with MTN exclusive for some time. MTN owns partly the company which imports HTC products. Vodacom will get it later, he said could be 1 or 2 weeks or even up to 6 months ... he does not know. So told him that I'm not happy about this and I will get a Galaxy or an Iphone. The he said probably just a few weeks later it will be available at vodacom and I should ask them. The vodacom store then told me as well that they usually get HTC devices 2 to 3 weeks after MTN has them. If it takes longer I will get a Galaxy, but I would prefer to get the Desire HD.

CrazYmonkeY159

23-10-2010, 09:45 PM

jkoekemr

24-10-2010, 09:37 AM

Thanks for posting the info, Chriscross007!
For once it's a good thing to be with MTN - my upgrade due end-Nov!

CrazYmonkeY159

24-10-2010, 01:10 PM

A bit off topic but why isn't the Z coming to MTN as well?

MTN is also bringing the HTC Mozart (nexus one/desire looking WP7 device)

kingrob

25-10-2010, 05:16 AM

If it takes longer I will get a Galaxy, but I would prefer to get the Desire HD.

You would be crazy to take a Galaxy instead of the Desire HD.

Good things come to those who wait. :)

Chriscross0072

25-10-2010, 10:19 AM

You would be crazy to take a Galaxy instead of the Desire HD.

Good things come to those who wait. :)

True, but my phone is broken, the microphone so other people can't hear me too well, the sceen ... did wash the phone in the washing machine, but surprisingly after a week it worked. I'm paying R 1090 per month on a company contract and I'm sick of these exclusive deals. If HTC does not want to sell, then there are alternatives.

kingrob

25-10-2010, 10:33 AM

True, but my phone is broken, the microphone so other people can't hear me too well, the sceen ... did wash the phone in the washing machine, but surprisingly after a week it worked. I'm paying R 1090 per month on a company contract and I'm sick of these exclusive deals. If HTC does not want to sell, then there are alternatives.

Just get an el-cheapo Nokio and use that for two or three weeks. I'm sure Vodacom will get it soon.

Me....I've got options. Got an old MTN contract that I'm gonna use to get the phone, then pop my Vodacom sim in it and use the MTN 100 contract for emergencies. I don't have a landline, so it's justified. ;)

Maddmatt

25-10-2010, 10:35 AM

You would be crazy to take a Galaxy instead of the Desire HD.

Good things come to those who wait. :)

Why would you say that? Galaxy S has it's own advantages over the Desire HD. Super AMOLED screen, slightly smaller size, great music quality. It comes down to personal preference.

kingrob

25-10-2010, 10:46 AM

Why would you say that? Galaxy S has it's own advantages over the Desire HD. Super AMOLED screen, slightly smaller size, great music quality. It comes down to personal preference.

You are 100% correct. My apologies.

Just so happy that I could FINALLY decide on a new phone and maybe went a bit overboard.

ForSure

25-10-2010, 12:10 PM

just saw this cool post and was wondering if it hasnt been posted earlier
whats the difference between the desire hd and hd 2 ? is one windows and other android ?
so i guess the desire hd is way better ?

FarligOpptreden

25-10-2010, 12:12 PM

HD2 is quite old already and it runs Windows Mobile 6.5. Desire HD runs on Android and the hardware specs should be much better than the HD2.

xrapidx

25-10-2010, 12:15 PM

I'm still using my Tytn II - longest I've had a phone... most phones don't appeal to me - or there are stock issues.

Maddmatt

25-10-2010, 12:28 PM

HD2 is quite old already and it runs Windows Mobile 6.5. Desire HD runs on Android and the hardware specs should be much better than the HD2.

Although if you have an HD2 you can run Android on it, some hackers have made it possible. Specs aren't as good as the Desire HD of course but if you already have an HD2 you may want to try that hack.

CrazYmonkeY159

25-10-2010, 01:45 PM

HD2 is quite old already and it runs Windows Mobile 6.5. Desire HD runs on Android and the hardware specs should be much better than the HD2.

the Desire HD has a newer generation of snapdragon inside of it, not to mention the HD2 is older (its successor is the HD7 of course with similar specs to the Desire HD)
the Desire HD has 8mp as opposed to the HD2's 5mp
the Desire HD has almost 60% more ram than the HD2
the Desire HD i presume has a better screen (just an assumption)

my friend uses his HD2 using the android hack (from xda-dev)
for the most part it is fine, but 1 or 2 apps may run buggy otherwise.

kvi

25-10-2010, 01:52 PM

the desire hd boots in 2 seconds !!!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DbtCLKANMzI

Stefanmuller

26-10-2010, 10:00 AM

What about the normal Desire vs the Desire HD?

From what I have seen in reviews, many reviews compare the normal Desire to iPhone 4 and the Galaxy S, and rate the Desire as the better option. Granted, it is the Desire running on 2.2
The main differences between the Desire and the Desire HD is the HD having a 8mp camera versus the 5mp camera in the normal Desire
More onboard storage (8/16GB in the Desire HD)
Bigger screen for the Desire HD. The normal desire has a smaller AMOLED screen.
Apart from that, the specs are exactly the same. Both can record video in HD.

So I wonder if it is worth waiting for the Desire HD when the normal Desire is available. If you can get the normal Desire on Android 2.2 then the phones are almost exactly the same. Some review sites rate the HD as having a too big screen, so getting the normal desire is also an option:

See here: http://www.maggadget.com/android-warriors-htc-desire-vs-htc-desire-hd-vs-htc-desire-z/

VazLube

26-10-2010, 10:52 AM

I've drawn both Desire and Desire HD dimensions on paper and I see HD is bit wider by half width of my pinkie. Height differences even smaller than width!

CrazYmonkeY159

26-10-2010, 12:03 PM

See here: http://www.maggadget.com/android-warriors-htc-desire-vs-htc-desire-hd-vs-htc-desire-z/

Very interesting. I've noticed that many people are worried about the Desire HDs battery life (myself included) but you have to consider the newer more efficient release of snapdragon, will have less of an impact on battery life as the older version of snapdragon did.

Stefanmuller

26-10-2010, 12:59 PM

It all depends which Android will be available for the normal Desire in SA.....if you can get it with 2.2 Froyo then there really are not a lot of difference between the Desire and the HD one. It is more a case of wanting the latest and best, even though it is not really that much better. Between Desire HD, Desire and Galaxy S it is very much a case of personal choice. They are all very good. I have a Hero, and my GF has a Samsung Omnia (which sucks and which she hates) so therefore I am very much biased towards the HTC for her new phone.

Chriscross0072

26-10-2010, 01:16 PM

http://shop.lab88.co.za/Forms.aspx?FID=2

Shads

26-10-2010, 01:43 PM

Wonder how much it will sell for?

Shads

26-10-2010, 02:37 PM

Just called LEAF again and they were saying they are expecting stock of the phone to arrive on Monday, 1 November. They said the stock will go out to Vodacom, MTN, etc during that same week. :)

Stefanmuller

26-10-2010, 03:48 PM

Just called LEAF again and they were saying they are expecting stock of the phone to arrive on Monday, 1 November. They said the stock will go out to Vodacom, MTN, etc during that same week. :)

Pretty good news, lets wait and see if it materialises.

dotVIBE

27-10-2010, 10:50 AM

just ordered my screenprotectors, carcharger & pouch from brando.com. should be here by the time my upgrade comes through on 10 Nov. Now MTN must just play along and have my phone ready. I have to say, they really are charging ridiculously little for the HTC DHD.

kingrob

27-10-2010, 11:00 AM

I have to say, they really are charging ridiculously little for the HTC DHD.

I'm also a bit perplexed as to why the phone is so cheap on MTN....it's the new flagship HTC Android phone after all.

*Saw the cash price for it is R6,954.99 on www.expansys.co.za, which is also nogal cheap. Maybe it's the fact that it's not a Super AMOLED display they're using, or HTC wants to give Samsung + Motorola a good run for their money.

My order is in with MTN. :)

Shads

27-10-2010, 01:39 PM

I can't see the Desire HD on MTN's site anymore? Anyone know if it has been moved?

Rands

27-10-2010, 01:44 PM

http://www.mtnsp.co.za/Upgrades/Pages/Overview.aspx

kingrob

27-10-2010, 01:45 PM

It's still there....although I cannot get to www.mtn.co.za at the moment, so I just mozied over to www.mtnsp.co.za - look under Upgrades....the Desire HD + Mozart are listed under HTC.

*MTN knew I wanted to cancel my contract, so they pulled out all the stops. :p

Maddmatt

27-10-2010, 01:48 PM

*Saw the cash price for it is R6,954.99 on www.expansys.co.za, which is also nogal cheap. Maybe it's the fact that it's not a Super AMOLED display they're using, or HTC wants to give Samsung + Motorola a good run for their money.

Probably cheaper to import it yourself if you're gonna get an imported one (assuming that site imports them). Handtec.co.uk is a good place, bought my Galaxy S from them.

jkoekemr

27-10-2010, 01:53 PM

I'm also a bit perplexed as to why the phone is so cheap on MTN....it's the new flagship HTC Android phone after all.

*Saw the cash price for it is R6,954.99 on www.expansys.co.za, which is also nogal cheap. Maybe it's the fact that it's not a Super AMOLED display they're using, or HTC wants to give Samsung + Motorola a good run for their money.

My order is in with MTN. :)

Does MTN have the ability to capture a pre-order on their system (I assume it's for an upgrade)?? What branch did you go to?

CrazYmonkeY159

27-10-2010, 02:06 PM

kingrob

27-10-2010, 02:10 PM

Does MTN have the ability to capture a pre-order on their system (I assume it's for an upgrade)?? What branch did you go to?

Yeah, I'm doing an upgrade. I just went to a local MTN shop (MTN Malmesbury) and asked them to order me the HTC Desire HD. They said they've place an order for the phone (I watched him do it, funky dealer app he was using), so hopefully when the main center gets stock, I'll get my Desire HD.

CrazYmonkeY159

27-10-2010, 04:50 PM

GSM arena and Engadget are 2 of the most trustworthy reviewers on on the net. Engadget has just conducted thier review of the DHD http://www.engadget.com/2010/10/27/htc-desire-hd-review/

kingrob

27-10-2010, 06:01 PM

GSM arena and Engadget are 2 of the most trustworthy reviewers on on the net. Engadget has just conducted thier review of the DHD http://www.engadget.com/2010/10/27/htc-desire-hd-review/

Engadget's review is a bit negative & the points not really valid.

They had three negatives about the phone :

1. The edges at the side....now I've never swiped my iPhone from side to side, just a quick flick in the middle, so the dude has obviously not used a touch screen display before. And the edges are there to put the phone down on its face if you want to silence it in a meeting - very cool.

2. Battery life.....we all know big screen touch phones suck power like there's no tomorrow, fortunately I've got some first hand experience with my iPhone 3G, so it's nothing new. I've made peace with that. And reading some of the comments from actual owners of Desire HDs, you CAN go for more than a day with light use. If you're a heavy user, just take your charger with you, or put in on the dock (optional).

3. The camera lens that's touching the surface when you put it down....also, reading some of the comments....not true. There is actually a metal strip that protects the camera lens, as some of the Desire HD owners pointed out.

I still think it's the best Android phone money can buy right now & definitely getting one.

CrazYmonkeY159

27-10-2010, 06:32 PM

Engadget's review is a bit negative & the points not really valid.

They had three negatives about the phone :

1. The edges at the side....now I've never swiped my iPhone from side to side, just a quick flick in the middle, so the dude has obviously not used a touch screen display before. And the edges are there to put the phone down on its face if you want to silence it in a meeting - very cool.

2. Battery life.....we all know big screen touch phones suck power like there's no tomorrow, fortunately I've got some first hand experience with my iPhone 3G, so it's nothing new. I've made peace with that. And reading some of the comments from actual owners of Desire HDs, you CAN go for more than a day with light use. If you're a heavy user, just take your charger with you, or put in on the dock (optional).

3. The camera lens that's touching the surface when you put it down....also, reading some of the comments....not true. There is actually a metal strip that protects the camera lens, as some of the Desire HD owners pointed out.

I still think it's the best Android phone money can buy right now & definitely getting one.

Engadget are really harsh. i agree with what you say, you dont have to scroll your finger all the way to the end of the device (i dont). one thing you can take away from this review is that they only complain about the smallest issues, which implies that the phone is itself really brilliant and complete.

Maddmatt

27-10-2010, 07:16 PM

Engadget don't make any meaningful comments on the audio quality. Did they really judge the SRS and Dolby sound using the internal speaker or did I read that wrong?
They really give the small issues more than their fair share of time. Why does the guy even swipe his finger that far? On my Galaxy S I feel no need to swipe my finger right off the screen.

Still, the battery life sounds pathetic. Surely that issue and the sound quality deserved more time than the fact that his fingers made a noise when he unnecessarily swiped the bezel next to the screen...
A big phone like that is going to be used for media so the sound quality (with earphones, not just the built in speaker) is very important.

I liked that phone until this review. At least now I don't need to envy it.

CrazYmonkeY159

27-10-2010, 08:27 PM

I still prefer it over the SGS (which is the only other viable android option)

Cranzy

29-10-2010, 01:38 PM

Well for me it's between the Desire and the Desire HD .... with the SLCD and new processor ... and more space :) - I'm leaning towards the Desire HD :)
Going to be placing my order very soon from MTN ... :)

dotVIBE

29-10-2010, 03:13 PM

not too sure that it's slcd any more. rumour has it that it might have a normal tft lcd

CrazYmonkeY159

29-10-2010, 05:55 PM

not too sure that it's slcd any more. rumour has it that it might have a normal tft lcd

This is something which has been bothering me. ive seen countless posts on the internet saying that the Desire HD and the HD7 have the exact same panel. and that the HD7 is indeed SLCD. but ive never seen a post about a person saying that the DHD has a SLCD panel. not even engadget explicitly says what screen it is...

dotVIBE

31-10-2010, 03:56 PM

www.techradar.com/news/phone-and-communications/mobile-phones/20-best-mobile-phones-in-the-world-today-645440?artc_pg=1

top 3 is rather interesting.

kingrob

31-10-2010, 09:04 PM

www.techradar.com/news/phone-and-communications/mobile-phones/20-best-mobile-phones-in-the-world-today-645440?artc_pg=1

top 3 is rather interesting.

Expected a bit better from TechRadar...but it was okish.

Someone mentioned that the Desire HD should be out tomorrow. Cannot wait!

dotVIBE

01-11-2010, 08:37 AM

anyone picking one of these bad boys up today? keep us posted!

Charted

01-11-2010, 09:57 AM

Has anyone(Those who applied with mtn online) received a call from them? i really hope it will be released today. And does anyone know if its possible to send a phone back for you cash back or another phone here. Ive read on countless forums in the uk and ouher places and it seems their network providers allow them a period to return the phone, is that applicable here? thanks for any help

Shads

01-11-2010, 02:45 PM

Went to Vodacom lunch time and it seems that I'm not speaking French anymore! The lady said she'll place an order for one. I asked if she knew it was the Desire HD and not just the Desire, and she said yes. She said she had seen one and that she could place an order.

xrapidx

01-11-2010, 03:03 PM

kingrob

01-11-2010, 06:07 PM

kingrob

01-11-2010, 06:07 PM

Thump3r

02-11-2010, 06:33 AM

Went to Nashua Mobile Midrand ... They have never heard of it ...

02-11-2010, 10:10 AM

FYI. I Applied directly with MTN on a corp account on the 12 of Oct. I got feedback about 1h ago that that contract does not exist. Anytime 350 @ R419.00. Nice one MTN

CrazYmonkeY159

02-11-2010, 10:43 AM

since my mom is still supporting me (im a student) she went to MTN HQ in PE. They dont have any instance of the Desire HD on thier Database besides thier website. This makes no sense to me. but ill give them a call later today. They kept on insisting that i meant the "HTC Desire" not the "HTC Desire HD"

bleh

boerbok

02-11-2010, 02:14 PM

According to the guy I deal with at Mtn/Leaf the phones are at the warehouse and they are just waiting for stock to arrive

Cranzy

02-11-2010, 02:17 PM

According to the guy I deal with at Mtn/Leaf the phones are at the warehouse and they are just waiting for stock to arrive

Yeah ... I actually phoned the warehouse last week and the person told me that I should be able to go into a MTN store by this week friday and they should be able to place an order for me if they haven't got the phone in stock.

LightningSux

02-11-2010, 02:19 PM

Ok, so where is the best store to go place an order? I tried the MTN in Fourways Mall and they didn't have it on their list. Anywhere in that area, or maybe Midrand ...?

boerbok

02-11-2010, 02:22 PM

According to the guy I deal with at Mtn/Leaf the phones are at the warehouse and they are just waiting for stock to arrive

Cranzy

02-11-2010, 03:05 PM

Ok, so where is the best store to go place an order? I tried the MTN in Fourways Mall and they didn't have it on their list. Anywhere in that area, or maybe Midrand ...?

I would suggest that you just wait until end of this week then try placing order at mtn shop :)

Chriscross0072

02-11-2010, 08:46 PM

does anyone know when it will be available for vodacom?

Shads

02-11-2010, 09:46 PM

On my twitter account I asked Vodacom about the release date and they said middle of this month!

kingrob

02-11-2010, 09:50 PM

On my twitter account I asked Vodacom about the release date and they said middle of this month!

Ah....then MTN might have it earlier!

Someone mentioned earlier that MTN will get an exclusive two weeks before Vodacom gets it.....I'm hoping MTN phones me tomorrow! :love:

zoner

03-11-2010, 08:06 AM

I spoke to Leaf an they told me that the DHD and DZ won't have TomTom SA maps preinstalled on them yet. Will be a free download from HTC/Leaf later on.

kingrob

03-11-2010, 08:28 AM

I spoke to Leaf an they told me that the DHD and DZ won't have TomTom SA maps preinstalled on them yet. Will be a free download from HTC/Leaf later on.

I definitely want the maps.....really nice that you don't need constant data downloads for the maps.

Deep78

03-11-2010, 08:34 AM

sigh ... when is this phone coming??? I was on MTN website and booked my upgrade with the phone as it is an option, got a call yesterday
and was told it is still not available but they will keep my details on system and once the phone is available will call me again.

and i go on waiting patiently ... will this phone not come already i've been waiting to upgrade for 2 months already

kingrob

03-11-2010, 08:50 AM

and i go on waiting patiently ... will this phone not come already i've been waiting to upgrade for 2 months already

Me too. But, if it's any consolation, you'll be getting the best mobile phone currently available on planet earth....so definitely worth waiting for. ;)

kingrob

03-11-2010, 09:07 AM

While we're waiting....here is the official HTC Desire HD video. Saw one dude posted that he watches it every day, while waiting for his phone to arrive. :)

Enjoy!

YouTube : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5lL1WEF21Jo

Caleax

03-11-2010, 09:49 AM

kingrob

03-11-2010, 09:56 AM

I phoned MTN upgrade, and the sale guy told me they have no release dates for the HTC Desire HD planned for this year. They expect release of the Desire HD only Q1 2011 !! I guess I'll go for iPhone4 then.. I'm not going to wait another 3 months!

Hang in there, Caleax! I'm sure the phone will be released very soon - and what I've discovered is that the sales people are so misinformed, that you simply can't trust what they tell you.

I can't stop you from getting the iPhone....but just remember that once you signed for the iPhone 4, you'll have to live with it for the next two years.

*Have a look at the comments on the YouTube video & you'll see how many iPhone users are switching....well, I'm also one. So tired of my iPhone! :(

Caleax

03-11-2010, 10:05 AM

hehe, I SOOOOOO want the HTC Desire HD.. *sigh* what to do? what to do? :p

xrapidx

03-11-2010, 10:14 AM

This should be interesting - as Leaf are notorious for bad releases.

kingrob

03-11-2010, 10:52 AM

hehe, I SOOOOOO want the HTC Desire HD.. *sigh* what to do? what to do? :p

Keep the faith. :)

roldstar

03-11-2010, 11:02 AM

great forum...been reading it every day to find out news about the phone I'm dying to have...

funny article to read while everyone patiently waits for their Desire HD's to arrive:
http://www.eweek.com/c/a/Mobile-and-Wireless/Android-22-Cant-Match-iOS-4-Features-10-Reasons-Why-824283/

I think it was written by Steve Jobs or perhaps his clone

dotVIBE

03-11-2010, 11:07 AM

bad thing about getting this from MTN is that they don't have a proper smartphone contract available for it. so i'd need a anytime with a data contract on top of it. fail.

kingrob

03-11-2010, 11:17 AM

bad thing about getting this from MTN is that they don't have a proper smartphone contract available for it. so i'd need a anytime with a data contract on top of it. fail.

I'm gonna get it on MTN, then use a Vodacom TopUp sim with it & keep the MTN sim as a backup. Sorted.

kingrob

03-11-2010, 11:24 AM

funny article to read while everyone patiently waits for their Desire HD's to arrive:
http://www.eweek.com/c/a/Mobile-and-Wireless/Android-22-Cant-Match-iOS-4-Features-10-Reasons-Why-824283/

I stopped reading that garbage after the third point....iOS offers multitasking. WTF?? Android was DESIGNED for multitasking & Apple has a "sort of" multitasking environment for 3GS & 4 - can't have multitasking on iPhone 3G.

Must be one of the worst articles I've ever read....but I can see the user comments reflect my thoughts. :)

Deep78

03-11-2010, 11:36 AM

i really would just like a date as to when the DHD will be released, its well worth the wait but atlast give us an ETA.
Its not like the phone is still in Dev its already out there what is taking so long???

Shads

03-11-2010, 11:49 AM

I fell into the trap of being impatient! I got a SGS! But that is ok as both my MTN and Vodacom contracts were due for upgrades (thought the Vodacom is due early next year, but actually it is due on the 18th). So I thought it would not be too much of a hassle!

But what I can say is that MTN has the worst salesmen! Don't believe a word they say! The guy I took the upgrade from at MTN Pavillion told me the phone wont be available for at least 3 months. This was 2 weeks ago! And now Vodacom has confirmed that it will be available in two weeks (Head Office - through Twitter). And MTN - the guys that know, also confirmed it will be released any day now - it is being shipped as we speak!

Just hang in there - it will be available very very soon!

Caleax

03-11-2010, 11:50 AM

I think it's MTN's way of saying "hey, actually we have NO idea when the DHD is arriving. So, let's tell everyone "soon".. That way, if we get it in the next 2 weeks, everyone will think we are heroes, if we receive it later, well, we did say "soon"... "

argh, is it that difficult to get an ETA? someone must know !?

Shads

03-11-2010, 11:55 AM

I just wish sales people at these stores are more informed as to what is going on out there! I hate going into one of their centres and being told "but the Desire is available"! I could just scream! Not the Desire people, the Desire HD! I think it should be compulsory that they sign up to MyBroadband ;)

VazLube

03-11-2010, 12:07 PM

I guess that sales people are too lazy or incompetent to check in their inventory system. Any self respecting business would have real time inventory system with information like stock levels, delivery ETA, and all of that stuff.

I have learnt very long ago that never trust even single word that a sales person says. Trust them as same as you trust a used oh sorry "pre-owned" car sales.

lurendrin

03-11-2010, 12:39 PM

can anyone confirm that the HTC Desire HD will be coming to SA with android 2.2 ?

VazLube

03-11-2010, 12:43 PM

No. it comes with 1.6! :p

Actually, yes, 2.2 with new Sense UI stuff.

lurendrin

03-11-2010, 12:47 PM

lol im just asking cause i saw an earlier post stating that the Hd's coming to SA wont come with the latest android.
Now i just have to let the wait kill me, vodacom really dont know whats going on.

No. it comes with 1.6! :p

Actually, yes, 2.2 with new Sense UI stuff.

Shads

03-11-2010, 12:50 PM

We haven't even got the phone and it already has two over the air updates! We're behind before we even started!

Cranzy

03-11-2010, 02:29 PM

Im getting the phone from whoever gets it first .. be it mtn or vodacom .. i just want it ... like yesterday :)

03-11-2010, 03:03 PM

Sorry boyz. My application has gone for credit approval. Should get mine by tomorrow. No longer will it just be a Desire, but a reality.

Shads

03-11-2010, 03:32 PM

Sorry boyz. My application has gone for credit approval. Should get mine by tomorrow. No longer will it just be a Desire, but a reality.

What???!!!! Where, who, when? Please tell!!! No keeping secrets on this forum!

03-11-2010, 03:43 PM

We've got a corporate acc directly with MTNSP

Cranzy

03-11-2010, 04:27 PM

That's good news .. as they told me i should phone on wednesday ... things has just been hectic today ... This atleast means we know they have ... so we will be able to get soon ...

kingrob

03-11-2010, 04:32 PM

Sorry boyz. My application has gone for credit approval. Should get mine by tomorrow. No longer will it just be a Desire, but a reality.

You bloody agent! :)

Think I should phone MTN again and make sure they understand that my order is the most important one.

Cranzy

03-11-2010, 04:40 PM

lol .... just as important as mine ...

Cranzy

03-11-2010, 05:01 PM

it's also good to see that with the 2 updates they managed to fix some bugs .... like the youtube error and also the proximity sensor ... so when we actually get the phone... we wont have those issues (if you update ofcourse)

kingrob

03-11-2010, 05:13 PM

This phone is gonna make me bankrupt....just look at all the accessories you can buy for this phone : http://www.mobilefun.co.uk/cat/HTC-Desire-HD.htm

I want the dock for starters.....is exactly like the iPhone dock I use with my iPhone 3G.

Cranzy

03-11-2010, 05:21 PM

I know what you mean :)
I want to get the ZAGG InvisibleShield -> http://www.mobileden.co.uk/mobilephones/pc/InvisibleSHIELD-Full-Body-Protector-For-HTC-Desire-HD-8741p4148.htm#details
and also deciding between the normal Silicone Case or the hydro gel case :)

kingrob

03-11-2010, 05:39 PM

I've never used a case or screen protector with my iPhone & it still looks as good as new after 2 years.....but if your money is burning a hole in your pocket, go for it. ;)

Imagine HTC releases a 1800 mAh battery later = perfect phone.

Cranzy

03-11-2010, 05:48 PM

my diamond also never had a case protector ... and anybody that glances at it .. will be able to testify to that :)
That link .. its actually a full cover ... same material the US use on chopper blades ... *so they say :)
Think the battery will get better after a couple of days of use, but yes ... that would be a nice battery :)

ForSure

03-11-2010, 07:12 PM

My mtn contract is due for a upgrade , you guys think its worth waiting for the new year and see what phones come out or go for the desire now
currently on the mycall 100 contract

:)

kingrob

03-11-2010, 08:09 PM

My mtn contract is due for a upgrade , you guys think its worth waiting for the new year and see what phones come out or go for the desire now
currently on the mycall 100 contract

:)

The Desire HD is the highest spec phone money can buy right now, but Samsung already mentioned a dual core cpu phone hitting the market next year. And the year after that, it most probably will be a quad core cpu. :D

Me? I'm gonna get myself a Desire HD. Come on MTN, I WANT MY PHONE NOW!! :)

sachinr

03-11-2010, 09:04 PM

Spoke to the HTC rep at the Canal Walk MTN - he reckons the DHD will be here available next week. Fingers crossed

kingrob

03-11-2010, 10:06 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8aen5kZYKkw

Deep78

04-11-2010, 09:10 AM

sigh ... and we are stilllll waiting

kingrob

04-11-2010, 09:48 AM

sigh ... and we are stilllll waiting

Yup. And I'm starting to get annoyed with my iPhone 3G 3.5'' display. I want something bigger to read my email attachments on. Like right now.

Cranzy

04-11-2010, 02:02 PM

hopefully android can sort out that /init issue before I get the phone :)
Anybody here have the normal htc desire and do you think upgrading to the DHD will be worth it?

Cranzy

04-11-2010, 03:47 PM

Sorry boyz. My application has gone for credit approval. Should get mine by tomorrow. No longer will it just be a Desire, but a reality.

So .... did you manage to get the phone???

kingrob

04-11-2010, 03:56 PM

Here's a full benchmark of the Desire HD compared to the Galaxy S & Desire......at the end of the video it will show the results.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BJWOznNUfow

Piesang

04-11-2010, 07:38 PM

I only read about this phone now. Never worried about anything else. It sure is a very nice device.

When will it be available?

kingrob

04-11-2010, 08:58 PM

I only read about this phone now. Never worried about anything else. It sure is a very nice device.

When will it be available?

Hopefully tomorrow. :)

I phoned the local MTN shop today and told the dude that he can phone me when the phone is on its way via courier, I'll bring my sleeping bag and camp out in the shop.

You should definitely get one for your collection. Sell the two Blackberries. .....just kidding

*I can't believe our resident phone guru slipped up with the monster phone for 2010. :p

Cranzy

04-11-2010, 09:56 PM

You guys gotto check this video out ... I want this phone even more :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A_rOX0zMF38

CrazYmonkeY159

05-11-2010, 07:48 AM

Him > Steve Jobs

kingrob

05-11-2010, 07:52 AM

You guys gotto check this video out ... I want this phone even more :)

Very cool video indeed. The dude is very good, considering that English is not even remotely his first language. :)

Deep78

05-11-2010, 08:23 AM

def something i'd wanna get the whole sense exp seems really awesome, hope they let us update the UI on older HTC phones
to use it :}

Edit: the Desire HD comes with HTC Sense but still want to update my older HTC phones with it ;)

Thump3r

05-11-2010, 08:27 AM

Him > Steve Jobs

Him > Steve Jobs > Bill Gates

zoner

05-11-2010, 09:24 AM

The Desire HD is the highest spec phone money can buy right now, but Samsung already mentioned a dual core cpu phone hitting the market next year. And the year after that, it most probably will be a quad core cpu. :D

Me? I'm gonna get myself a Desire HD. Come on MTN, I WANT MY PHONE NOW!! :)

The DHD is not so perfect! Techradar still rate the D better than the DHD.

http://www.techradar.com/news/phone-and-communications/mobile-phones/20-best-mobile-phones-in-the-world-today-645440?artc_pg=21

kingrob

05-11-2010, 09:44 AM

The DHD is not so perfect! Techradar still rate the D better than the DHD.

http://www.techradar.com/news/phone-and-communications/mobile-phones/20-best-mobile-phones-in-the-world-today-645440?artc_pg=21

Both phones are brilliant, but I'm more than happy to take a not-so-perfect DHD. :)

Here's a comparison between the two phones : http://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=3468&idPhone2=3077

Please tell me where the Desire is perfect and the Desire HD is lacking, would love to know & then I'll be able to make an informed decision.

dotVIBE

05-11-2010, 09:44 AM

meh, that link was posted ages ago. video issues have already been sorted with OTA updates and battery life is about the same as the D due to the upgraded 45nm Snapdragon Gen 2 Scorpion CPU in the DHD. Techradar has their heads up their a$$es. I just wonder whether we'll get the black one or the brown one in SA.

zoner

05-11-2010, 09:49 AM

How about the NEW Motorola Milestone XT720. A2.2, 8MP, HD, GPS + HDMI output (and comes with HDMI cable in the box !). On MTN100 only R199! pm .. R50 less than DHD pm! What2do, What2do...

zoner

05-11-2010, 09:54 AM

kingrob

05-11-2010, 09:55 AM

How about the NEW Motorola Milestone XT720. A2.2, 8MP, HD, GPS + HDMI output (and comes with HDMI cable in the box !). On MTN100 only R199! pm .. R50 less than DHD pm! What2do, What2do...

It's a fugly phone with no HTC Sense . Enough said.

kingrob

05-11-2010, 09:56 AM

Told by the tech guy @ Leaf that we will only get the brown.

There is only brown. Think GSMArena started a rumour that it would be available in black.

zoner

05-11-2010, 10:05 AM

And the Bluetooth audio issue? Sorted?
Don't get me wrong, I fell in love with the DHD the 1st time I saw it. I've already made a space next to my pillow for it!
Just phoned MTNSP and they said no, try Wed next week. :(

zoner

05-11-2010, 10:07 AM

It's a fugly phone with no HTC Sense . Enough said.

That makes scence :)

kingrob

05-11-2010, 10:11 AM

Just phoned MTNSP and they said no, try Wed next week. :(

FFS!!! The people in Europe already had the phone for weeks & here we're still waiting. Why must we always suck the hind tit? :sick:

dotVIBE

05-11-2010, 10:16 AM

How about the NEW Motorola Milestone XT720. A2.2, 8MP, HD, GPS + HDMI output (and comes with HDMI cable in the box !). On MTN100 only R199! pm .. R50 less than DHD pm! What2do, What2do...

http://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=3375&idPhone2=3468

not with those battery & proc stats. Type N wifi is also a biggie for me.

dotVIBE

05-11-2010, 10:18 AM

There is only brown. Think GSMArena started a rumour that it would be available in black.

all good. brown looks cool.

kingrob

05-11-2010, 10:50 AM

http://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=3375&idPhone2=3468

not with those battery & proc stats. Type N wifi is also a biggie for me.

Doubt if it will be able to run Froyo properly....only has 256MB RAM.

Cranzy

05-11-2010, 11:23 AM

and so we continue waiting ...

Im suspecting we will only see this phone by 16 November.

CrazYmonkeY159

05-11-2010, 01:45 PM

It's a fugly phone with no HTC Sense . Enough said.

+1

Android makes more sense with HTC Sense.

with regards to the D vs the DHD

i think its much of a muchness. the D has better pixel density but the DHD has a bigger screen (same res), the D has AMOLED/S-LCD screen and the DHD has (S??)-LCD

LightningSux

05-11-2010, 01:52 PM

Cranzy

05-11-2010, 02:06 PM

While everybody is waiting ... here is something to keep everybody busy until we get our phones :)
It's the HTC Desire HD User Guide :)
http://kaipee.co.uk/dhd/DHD_manual.pdf

kingrob

05-11-2010, 02:09 PM

Went to Lab88 at VodaWorld, Midrand. Guy there told me Desire HD was not available yet, but probably on the 15th Nov. Don't know if that's only if you want to buy it from Lab88 ...

Other places, such as Nashua Mobile, AutoPage etc. didn't have it on their systems yet.

I sincerely hope the delay is not caused by Leaf trying to put their crappy app market on the phones, or brand it with anything Leaf.

kingrob

05-11-2010, 06:52 PM

While everybody is waiting ... here is something to keep everybody busy until we get our phones :)
It's the HTC Desire HD User Guide :)
http://kaipee.co.uk/dhd/DHD_manual.pdf

Thank you!

zoner

05-11-2010, 07:09 PM

I sincerely hope the delay is not caused by Leaf trying to put their crappy app market on the phones, or brand it with anything Leaf.

What! Leaf don't even have the DHD listed on their website!

zoner

05-11-2010, 07:22 PM

While we wait...

HTC Desire HD Accessories (In Rands)
http://www.expansys.co.za/a.aspx?i=203871

And... the phone itself:
http://www.expansys.co.za/htc-desire-hd-203871/

kingrob

05-11-2010, 07:25 PM

What! Leaf don't even have the DHD listed on their website!

hehe....no, not saying Leaf has put anything on the phones! Just saying I HOPE NOT.

dotVIBE

05-11-2010, 07:52 PM

not a bad price for the cradle eh? might just pick one of those up along with a car kit.

kingrob

05-11-2010, 08:13 PM

not a bad price for the cradle eh? might just pick one of those up along with a car kit.

Exactly what I'm gonna buy. :)

zoner

06-11-2010, 09:20 AM

Why no front webcam for Skype/Video Calls?
Guys, which is better in direct sunlight/gaming/playback AMOLED (D) or S-LCD (DHD)?

CrazYmonkeY159

06-11-2010, 10:53 AM

Why no front webcam for Skype/Video Calls?
Guys, which is better in direct sunlight/gaming/playback AMOLED (D) or S-LCD (DHD)?

good question. here is a simple comparison. the S-LCD and Super AMOLED are neck and neck, i think S-LCD just wins by a small margin.

guys I still haven't gotten a confirmation weather the DHD is S-LCD or just LCD

can anyone confirm? because GSMarena says its S-LCD but all other reviewers dont even specify what screen technology is behind the DHD

edit: indoors tho the AMOLED / Super AMOLED shines far beyond LCD

kingrob

06-11-2010, 11:10 AM

Why no front webcam for Skype/Video Calls?
Guys, which is better in direct sunlight/gaming/playback AMOLED (D) or S-LCD (DHD)?

My old Nokia Navigator & SE P990i had front facing cameras & I can honestly say.... I have never ever used it. My iPhone 3G doesn't have one & I've never missed it there either. :p

With regards to direct sunlight, I've read in other forums that the DHD display is very readable in direct sunlight.....but, if they are all telling lies, worst scenario is that you'll have to cup the display with your hand. :)

Gemaskerde Tuinvurk

06-11-2010, 01:15 PM

Mouse

06-11-2010, 05:32 PM

maybe not 100% on topic, but I'll try to steer it...

So this eXpansys company the links point to for prices - anyone bought from it? Had any good / bad experiences?

Just want to know if I order any bits for my DHD that I'll get them :)

I would also like to know about that, as well as why the same phone costs over R2000 more from the same company selling it in New Zealand:
http://www.expansys.co.nz/htc-desire-hd+free-usb-cradle-204786/

947.76 New Zealand dollars = 5 101.17958 South African rands.

And even comes with a USB cradle free!

kingrob

06-11-2010, 09:49 PM

I would also like to know about that, as well as why the same phone costs over R2000 more from the same company selling it in New Zealand:
http://www.expansys.co.nz/htc-desire-hd+free-usb-cradle-204786/

947.76 New Zealand dollars = 5 101.17958 South African rands.

And even comes with a USB cradle free!

We're Saffers, we always get shafted.

Imagine the day when MTN & Vodacom actually give us a good deal.... Nah, will never happen. :sick:

zoner

07-11-2010, 09:43 AM

kingrob

07-11-2010, 10:53 AM

Here is a review from someone who has the phone.
Please Note: This is not my opinion - I'm just putting it out there as it is.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/product-reviews/B003ZDP5YK/ref=cm_cr_dp_hist_2?ie=UTF8&showViewpoints=0&filterBy=addTwoStar

Check all the reviews : http://www.amazon.co.uk/product-reviews/B003ZDP5YK/ref=cm_cr_pr_fltrmsg?ie=UTF8&showViewpoints=0

Now you'll be making an informed decision. ;)

zoner

08-11-2010, 07:19 AM

Morning Boys.
Where's the phone?

zoner

08-11-2010, 07:21 AM

Check all the reviews : http://www.amazon.co.uk/product-reviews/B003ZDP5YK/ref=cm_cr_pr_fltrmsg?ie=UTF8&showViewpoints=0

Now you'll be making an informed decision. ;)

Fair enough

kingrob

08-11-2010, 07:30 AM

Morning Boys.
Where's the phone?

LOL....that's what we all want to know.

Cranzy

08-11-2010, 09:36 AM

Well .. good news about the /init process problem

A fix has been found to stop the /Init process lagging the phone.
On your phone go to..
Menu/settings/applications/development/now turn on Usb debugging..
This seems to keep the / init process at 0% CPU usage, it also works when the /INIT problem starts, turning USB debugging on will make the /INIT process drop back to 0%, very nice to see.
Ive contacted the Dev to find out if he can tell us why this method has fixed the problem.
Still need an update from Htc but at least we can use our phones again..
There doesn't seem to be any negative effects from turning this option on, the only thing to note is turning it off to connect to your pc could bring the /init process back and lag your phone. You can download Android Manager from the market for free which will allow you to transfer data from your pc using Wi-Fi, using this app you can keep the USB Debugging on.
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EDIT 2 - It looks like you can connect to the pc via USB cable with the debugging turned on without problems, the only difference is that it will try and install additional drivers...because of the debugging mode..
Im using windows 7 and the ABD driver wont install...this however does not effect transferring via the USB cable...
We should also watch the battery as this may actually increase battery life...

HOWIE1975

08-11-2010, 11:22 AM

dotVIBE

08-11-2010, 11:24 AM

nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo oooooooooooooohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!

VazLube

08-11-2010, 11:37 AM

Patience is virtue.

chopsuey

08-11-2010, 11:45 AM

Any idea on a cash price for the phone from the carriers ?

... I'm aware of the +- R 7 000 from Expandsys

Cranzy

08-11-2010, 11:51 AM

Cranzy

08-11-2010, 11:51 AM

Any idea on a cash price for the phone from the carriers ?

... I'm aware of the +- R 7 000 from Expandsys

Expandsys is always so expensive .. i remember when the Hero came out it was over 7000 aswell .. then my friend bought it from nashua mobile for 5000

chopsuey

08-11-2010, 12:31 PM

Expandsys is always so expensive .. i remember when the Hero came out it was over 7000 aswell .. then my friend bought it from nashua mobile for 5000

I'm actually looking for a reason not to pre-order (should be in stock next week) it NOW from www.handtec.co.uk (http://www.handtec.co.uk/product.php/3564/) Got my finger on the trigger :whistle:

Did a quick calc, should cost all in under R 6000 (R 5600 - 5800). Just trying to justify the warranty risk.

But than again all the stock that arrives first to our carriers will probably only be available with contracts (... I've decided no more contracts for me) :mad:

xrapidx

08-11-2010, 12:56 PM

I just contacted Leaf and they assured me the phone will be South Africa on the 20th and will be at the service providers by no later than the 25 November 2010 for sale and contracts :mad: well what can we do!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Hahaha - thought as much from Leaf :rolleyes:

Exactly what they did with the HD2 - told everyone it would be available at a certain stage - and then it was delayed.

08-11-2010, 01:09 PM

Well, alas i recieved my contract @ R419 on an Anytime 350 but still waiting for the handset. I've been following up with MTN daily. The last info I got is the phone is sitting with RTT.... :twisted:

Wag

08-11-2010, 01:38 PM

I'm actually looking for a reason not to pre-order (should be in stock next week) it NOW from www.handtec.co.uk (http://www.handtec.co.uk/product.php/3564/) Got my finger on the trigger :whistle:

Did a quick calc, should cost all in under R 6000 (R 5600 - 5800). Just trying to justify the warranty risk.

But than again all the stock that arrives first to our carriers will probably only be available with contracts (... I've decided no more contracts for me) :mad:

Do you know if they have stock? If so I will order today

chopsuey

08-11-2010, 01:45 PM

Do you know if they have stock? If so I will order today

handtec.co.uk ? NO, have to pre-order ...

STOCK UPDATE:
First Shipment: Shipped all orders placed in September.
Second batch: Arrived 1st November : We are expecting to ship all orders upto and including the 13th October 2010
Next Delivery Due: Week commencing 15th November 2010

kingrob

08-11-2010, 02:26 PM

I just contacted Leaf and they assured me the phone will be South Africa on the 20th and will be at the service providers by no later than the 25 November 2010 for sale and contracts :mad: well what can we do!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

WTF???

The stock will most probably run out the first day & we'll have to wait another month. :sick:

HOWIE1975

08-11-2010, 03:21 PM

WELL AT LEAST MTN HAS MY PHONE ON ORDER AT MTNSP UPGRADES SO I KNOW ILL HAVE MINE ON THE 25TH:)

VazLube

08-11-2010, 03:24 PM

Sooo who is going to be first to post pics here?

nivek

08-11-2010, 04:12 PM

WELL AT LEAST MTN HAS MY PHONE ON ORDER AT MTNSP UPGRADES SO I KNOW ILL HAVE MINE ON THE 25TH:)

Lol, dont get your hopes up, this is MTN..

HOWIE1975

08-11-2010, 04:26 PM

But can't we DREAM now and then remember we live in South Africa anything happens here LOL:D

kingrob

08-11-2010, 05:04 PM

:)

http://i126.photobucket.com/albums/p98/jrolivier/htc-desire-hd.jpg

dotVIBE

08-11-2010, 05:48 PM

but is that now black or brown?

CrazYmonkeY159

08-11-2010, 06:33 PM

someone in this thread said that it's going to be brown only available in SA, not sure where he/she this info from, maybe leaf

kingrob

08-11-2010, 08:18 PM

but is that now black or brown?

It is dark brown....looks almost black. :)

kingrob

08-11-2010, 08:20 PM

WELL AT LEAST MTN HAS MY PHONE ON ORDER AT MTNSP UPGRADES SO I KNOW ILL HAVE MINE ON THE 25TH:)

I'll tell MTN you actually wanted a Blackberry Torch & to pass on the Desire HD to me. :p

Well, my order was in the day it became available on MTN's web site....so I should be first.

kingrob

08-11-2010, 08:25 PM

Here you go, a bit more brown.

http://i126.photobucket.com/albums/p98/jrolivier/htc_desire_hd.png

HOWIE1975

08-11-2010, 08:26 PM

kingrob

08-11-2010, 08:37 PM

maybe you 1st but i cant wait, I've even had thoughts of other phones but coming back and reading ur guys thoughts makes me want a desire HD even more but anyway i just hope its a strong phone as my last htc screen broke twice ok so it fell off the desk>>>>>>>>>:p

Fanks Howie, you're too kind. :)

Yeah, I've looked at so many phones till I actually got fed-up, but this is THE most complete phone out there right now.

Also looked at Windows 7 phones, but the OS is just not there yet. Maybe in a year's time, but then Android will most probably be miles ahead with Gingerbread + . Another strong contender was the Samsung Galaxy S, but the Desire HD packs the latest tech (14.4Mbps HSDPA), more RAM. Last, but not least, I actually did look at the iPhone 4 (yes, I did :( ), but the antennae issues just made it a big no-no, since I'm left-handed + a lot of people are complaining that it's very uncomfortable to hold when having a long chat.

SO.....the Desire HD is my choice.

Shads

08-11-2010, 09:09 PM

Just for the record, since I started this thread, I shud get the first Desire HD :)

kingrob

08-11-2010, 09:56 PM

Just for the record, since I started this thread, I shud get the first Desire HD :)

That is a valid argument, Shads. Ok, I'll phone Leaf and arrange it.....oh crap, there's no answer. :p

Gemaskerde Tuinvurk

08-11-2010, 11:15 PM

the only REAL issue with this phone is the battery (since we actually do want the big screen).

so to sort that out, get yourself one of these (http://www.amazon.com/DEXIM-BluePack-3000mAh-Lithium-BlackBerry/dp/B002QUYYKY) :)

edit... btw, their after sales service is awesome! got myself one of these in the UK, when I got back in SA it wasent workin so well. So I contacted them and they replied immediately, saying I should courier it back to them in China. I thought... WHAT! But they paid all shipping cost (account with DHL), and I got a new one in just 8 days :)

CrazYmonkeY159

09-11-2010, 08:09 AM

I'm always by my computer/laptop so battery wont be an issue for me

kingrob

09-11-2010, 08:47 AM

I'm always by my computer/laptop so battery wont be an issue for me

Same here + I've got an USB car charger as well. Sorted!

I'm used to this, my iPhone 3G doesn't last longer than a day & I just put it in its cradle when I go to bed. What's the big deal?

VazLube

09-11-2010, 08:57 AM

Maybe we were too used to long battery life for dumbphones running days into week.

kingrob

09-11-2010, 09:06 AM

Maybe we were too used to long battery life for dumbphones running days into week.

My thoughts as well...somehow people still expect the charge-my-phone-once-a-week battery life from their smartphones, which is simply not gonna happen if you use it regularly.

Let's face it, modern smartphones have a 1Ghz CPU, 512MB RAM, 16GB storage....doesn't it sound more like a computer than a phone?

"Dumb phones" didn't have 3G, didn't do web browsing, didn't do push email, argh....the list goes on.

09-11-2010, 09:14 AM

Just wait till your smartphone is a year old... then we'll see battery times of 6 - 8 hours (If that!)

HOWIE1975

09-11-2010, 09:22 AM

Hey i don't mind waiting to see if the battery life increases but i want my phone yesterday!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1 :cry::cry::cry::cry::cry:

kingrob

09-11-2010, 09:34 AM

Just wait till your smartphone is a year old... then we'll see battery times of 6 - 8 hours (If that!)

My iPhone 3G is two years & two months old now....and I still get a full day's use out of it. :)

*I regularly let the battery discharge completely, so might be why it's so good. Gonna do exactly the same with my Desire HD.