Adult ADHD

[Mila]

http://beta.mnet.co.za/carteblanche/Article.aspx?Id=4146&ShowId=3

This was very interesting.
Any body here living with this?


Chantal Rutter (Carte Blanche Medical presenter): 'Looking for lost keys and feeling disorganised happens to most of us from time to time. But when this becomes habitual chronic disorganisation it may be raising the red flag for something far worse.'

And that may be adult ADHD - that's an Attention Deficit Hyperactivity Disorder, a chronic neurological condition affecting around 5% of the population including many famous people such as Winston Churchill, Bill Cosby and Richard Branson.

Many untreated ADHD adults are underachievers. They have big ideas but get bored easily. They are easily distracted and their chaotic lifestyle impairs functioning. For example, tax returns are never filed in time, important numbers are lost and time management is poor.



Typically adults with untreated ADHD, because of constant criticism from the past, will have difficulty with authority figures and in relationships.

Tim: 'I struggled a lot with my boss, relationships at work, uhm, constantly shouting at one another.'

Even a simple question from Tim's wife could lead to a fight.

Tim: 'I would find it as criticism, and constantly at me. Everybody is trying to get at me. And just leave me alone. Then I would immediately go on the defensive.'.


Life coach: 'A lot to do with ADHD is low self esteem. So as they are making progress and moving forward, so to they want to do more, they want to be better and they embrace the structure.'

But getting better for some may mean high schedule drugs.

*edited to fit page.*

[undesign]

I've been meaning to see someone about it for years, somehow just never did. :o:( I recognise many of the classic symptoms in myself.

[wise_guy]

What next ADHD for pensioners.Its amazing how they invent illnesses to make us think we that we might have this condition.Next thing you know there's a 'adult ADHD Specialist' waiting to drain you off your hard earned cash.Of course Richard Branson is hyperactive-who would'nt be with all those gorgeous supermodels chasing him.

[joeymojo]

scary stuff. Was looking at Carte Blanche Medical and pretty much noticed all the symptons in me. So i guess a trip to the shrink or doctor to find out if it is true.

[zamicro]

I am pretty sure I am also a sufferer of ADHD. But looking at the list of personality traits, I am not so sure anymore. I do not struggle with authority figures or relationships at work, or a low self esteem. But I am very unorganized and have really trouble concentrating in meetings etc.

[Nerfherder]

I think its because our brains are not designed to sit in front of a computer all day.

I have suffered with ADHD all my life and have learnt to adapt, so no i'm not lazzy. I got a degree and a decent job that I can do... you have to learn adapt.

[ponder]

Whatever happened to yuppie flu?

[ToxicBunny]

This whole ADHD thing drives me mental....

Its the bloody "easy" option for a lot of medical practioners because it involves giving the person some pills to take constantly..
I'm not denying the condition exists, but its WAY overdiagnosed.

[copacetic]

Sure, I am a bit mental, but I definitely won't take medication for it.

That **** can make your heart explode!

[Datura]

Well, sometimes when I am playing online poker I will be in the middle of a han.... oooooh look... midget pr0n...

[hilton]

Guess I'm off to the doc then. Pretty scary.

[Human]

/raises hand

I have Adult ADHD.
I only take Vits and supplements to assist with it.

[hilton]

What sort of vitamins and supps?

[Nerfherder]

Whatever happened to yuppie flu?

Its still around, it has a proper name now.

[Nerfherder]

What sort of vitamins and supps?

When I was a kid (circa 1988) I was put on a wheat and gluten free diet. It also exuded sugar and preservatives. It worked very well.

I absolutely hated it and had to take a fist full of vitamins every day

[Human]

What sort of vitamins and supps?

A normal a-z vit (Centrum) and then Omega 3 1000mg x2 capsules a day.
At first I only took 1 capsule and then I upped it after the 1st week.

It actually does help with the memory and concentration.

[mak2000]

Did anyone record this? Would like to have a look at the show.

[wise_guy]

Ginko Biloba is excellent for memory.You should also try.....damn I forgot.

[Human]

Ginko Biloba is excellent for memory.You should also try.....damn I forgot.

Oh hilarious...simply hilarious.
Hardy fukking har:rolleyes:

[Mila]

I've been meaning to see someone about it for years, somehow just never did. :o:( I recognise many of the classic symptoms in myself.


/raises hand

I have Adult ADHD.
I only take Vits and supplements to assist with it.

Does it help? What do you take. I do take vits but would like to know if I can supplement it if it might help.


Did anyone record this? Would like to have a look at the show.
the link I posted should have the vid.

[undesign]

A normal a-z vit (Centrum) and then Omega 3 1000mg x2 capsules a day.
At first I only took 1 capsule and then I upped it after the 1st week.

It actually does help with the memory and concentration.

I'll definitely give it a try. Been battling with concentration since varsity - never went to class, because I simply can't concentrate (used to fall asleep :eek:). Same today with business meetings.

I also have this tendency to fire away at new projects/ventures at a maddening pace - I literally go into this hyper-focus mode that is very intensive - only to lose interest when it gets near completion. Then the serious procrastination kicks in, until I start something new that excites me. Wash. Rinse. Repeat.

My short-term memory is also a big problem.

Not necessarily ADHD or medical, but definitely an issue in a life style/time management sense.

[Mila]

A normal a-z vit (Centrum) and then Omega 3 1000mg x2 capsules a day.
At first I only took 1 capsule and then I upped it after the 1st week.

It actually does help with the memory and concentration.

Soz missed this post.

Will any doctor be able do diagnose this or do you have to go to a "specialist"?

[ghoti]

I have adult ADHD. Take Conserta when I feel I need to focus on something boring otherwise its a useful asset to have. Sometimes I take Ritalin but I find that a bit heavy. Conserta works 110% :D If you really have ADHD, avoid the nutritional snake oil salesmen and get proper treatment. It will make a world of difference in your life.

[Mila]

I have adult ADHD. Take Conserta when I feel I need to focus on something boring otherwise its a useful asset to have. Sometimes I take Ritalin but I find that a bit heavy. Conserta works 110% :D

And your normal doctor gave you?

[ghoti]

And your normal doctor gave you?

My wife is my doctor :D I went for blood tests and loads of other tests, then onto Ritalin and Conserta. Changed my life significantly. I love being able to concentrate on one thing for a long time now...even if its boring.

[Human]

Soz missed this post.

Will any doctor be able do diagnose this or do you have to go to a "specialist"?

I was never diagnosed.
I had all the synmptoms but never actually think it was anything but lazyness.
I then started doing some reading and applied the symptoms to my actions and...well...if the shoe fits.

[Human]

I have adult ADHD. Take Conserta when I feel I need to focus on something boring otherwise its a useful asset to have. Sometimes I take Ritalin but I find that a bit heavy. Conserta works 110% :D If you really have ADHD, avoid the nutritional snake oil salesmen and get proper treatment. It will make a world of difference in your life.

Conserta?
Ok.

Prescription only?

[ghoti]

Conserta?
Ok.

Prescription only?

Yup, both are prescription only. Conserta is better due to its slow release, and your inability to abuse it. Ritalin is very abusable :D

[ghoti]

Fish oil is clinically proven to benefit ADHD symptoms.

Im sure cabbage can be proven as well. I was watching that Carte Blanche show.. and even the [-]snake[/-] fish oil nutritionist says that it does help a little for the mild cases. However, ADHD full blown is serious and the chemicals that help with balancing the brain are serious as well. If you have full blown ADHD all the fish oil in the world is hardly going to help you.

[Mila]

My wife is my doctor :D I went for blood tests and loads of other tests, then onto Ritalin and Conserta. Changed my life significantly. I love being able to concentrate on one thing for a long time now...even if its boring. :) Lucky bastidy :D


I was never diagnosed.
I had all the synmptoms but never actually think it was anything but lazyness.
I then started doing some reading and applied the symptoms to my actions and...well...if the shoe fits.

SAme here.

[Human]

I'll definitely give it a try. Been battling with concentration since varsity - never went to class, because I simply can't concentrate (used to fall asleep :eek:). Same today with business meetings.

I also have this tendency to fire away at new projects/ventures at a maddening pace - I literally go into this hyper-focus mode that is very intensive - only to lose interest when it gets near completion. Then the serious procrastination kicks in, until I start something new that excites me. Wash. Rinse. Repeat.

My short-term memory is also a big problem.

Not necessarily ADHD or medical, but definitely an issue in a life style/time management sense.

Microfocusing is one of the many symptoms that you have mentioned.
All are ADD or ADHD.

To be honest siris, dont fool yourself to think this is anyhting but medical.
I used to think that it was just me being forgetful or lazy, it's not.

It came to a point where the SO was referring to recent conversations of which I had no collection and this almost always boiled to a conversation where I never listened to him etc.:rolleyes:

[Human]

Yup, both are prescription only. Conserta is better due to its slow release, and your inability to abuse it. Ritalin is very abusable :D

I had heard some horror stories about Ritalin though...
The calvin and hobbs strip was the worst.

[ghoti]

I had heard some horror stories about Ritalin though...
The calvin and hobbs strip was the worst.
Its a strong substance, if you ever wanna test if you have ADHD, buy 10 of these, if you dont have ADHD it will hardly effect you, if you do.. it will feel almost like menthol on your brain. Within two days of me taking it I care about stuff I dont normally.. like making the bed, or being extra neat and attentive. Being able to follow through a lot more easily with mundane boring tasks. Its absolutely amazing the difference it makes. But it heavy stuff. It is also heavily over prescribed.

[Human]

Its a strong substance, if you ever wanna test if you have ADHD, buy 10 of these, if you dont have ADHD it will hardly effect you, if you do.. it will feel almost like menthol on your brain. Within two days of me taking it I care about stuff I dont normally.. like making the bed, or being extra neat and attentive. Being able to follow through a lot more easily with mundane boring tasks. Its absolutely amazing the difference it makes. But it heavy stuff. It is also heavily over prescribed.

Hmmmmm....
You went for tests etc?

[ghoti]

Hmmmmm....
You went for tests etc?

Yah. Im chronic though. I had regular blood tests and the lot.

[Human]

Yah. Im chronic though. I had regular blood tests and the lot.

Hmmmm...meds covered by medical aid?

[ghoti]

Hmmmm...meds covered by medical aid?

I get mine from the public hospitals :D Its very expensive otherwise.

Normal medical aids like Discovery Im told wont cover it as chronic medication unless you are under the age of 19. Apparently they dont have to cover you as an adult :confused: So if you are on Discovery it comes out of your savings.

[ghoti]

I did not claim that fish oil is a complete treatment or cure for ADHD. Numerous clinical studies have shown that fish oil benefits ADHD symtpoms. To say that fish oil is a useless snake oil remedy is not based in scientific fact.

By numerous you mean two. A 2005 and a 2009 study. Of which both showed limited success.

[Human]

To be honest.
The Omega 3 does not even affect me anymore.
/shrug

Just spoke to Discovery and the Ritalin is out of MSA, no payin required but the Conserta is not even on the list.

[ghoti]

To be honest.
The Omega 3 does not even affect me anymore.
/shrug

Just spoke to Discovery and the Ritalin is out of MSA, no payin required but the Conserta is not even on the list.
Yeah, Conserta is pretty new (well for me). Buy a box of Ritalin. DONT ABUSE IT (no snorting!).. take it for a couple of days. You should notice a significant change in your behavior.

I dont take the meds daily as I find ADHD a powerful tool. It allows you to multi task like a demon, and is really good for the environment I work in.

Some people say ADHD and its opposite cousin OCD are evolutionary throwbacks. ADHD being the hunters and OCD being the farmers. My wife is OCD :D

[garyb01]

To all the naysayers out there: ADD /ADHD in adults is not an excuse or a figment of the imagination! Its does exist! Suffered from this all my life! Reports at school always were something along this line: "Gary is a gifted and highly intelligent pupil, if only he would learn to apply himself, if only he would learn to concentrate etc etc". Those days of course, the "Medication" was six of the best and a teacher who felt satisfied with himself having beaten the crap out of an "ill-disciplined young Sh*t causer, without manners"! Still disgusts me!

Last year when I was finally diagnosed at the age of 40, my life changed completely! My Mom watched the episode last night and knowing my diagnoses, actually called me last night to apologise to me for all those years that I went undiagnosed and what I had to go through up until I finally received help. :(

Starting projects with such vigour and then losing interest is a common problem, feeling depressed because you feel misunderstood all the time, relationship issues and arguments, divorces, grumpy and low all the time, unable to finish even the smallest and easiest of tasks some times, not being able to read and finish a book, study at school, low marks when you know for a fact that you know all the work and if they would just ask you to do an oral exam and tell them about them the work instead of having to write it down, because you really just cannot write it down, you would get 100% etc etc...Lost keys, lost phones, car accidents,

Then concerta / ritilan entered my life and changed it more than I can say. So, my point in telling you all of this? If you read all of the info and articles around and feel that you may be suffering from this, DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT!!!! Go and see your Doc, get referred for tests.... Don't accept the comments of those who have never suffered from this but have the gall to say it does not exist!

[garyb01]

I get mine from the public hospitals :D Its very expensive otherwise.

Normal medical aids like Discovery Im told wont cover it as chronic medication unless you are under the age of 19. Apparently they dont have to cover you as an adult :confused: So if you are on Discovery it comes out of your savings.

I'n not on medical aid and its hellish expensive each month, especially on the concentration (excuse the pun :) ) that I'm on. How do you get it right to get it at the public hospital?

[undesign]

It came to a point where the SO was referring to recent conversations of which I had no collection and this almost always boiled to a conversation where I never listened to him etc.:rolleyes:

Hehe, I get that a lot. :)

Good advice in this thread, thanks. I'm going to make an appointment today.

[ghoti]

I'n not on medical aid and its hellish expensive each month, especially on the concentration (excuse the pun :) ) that I'm on. How do you get it right to get it at the public hospital?

Ideally you want a hospital with a psychiatric department. You stand in a cue to see a doctor. He then gives you a script, then you stand in a cue for the hospital pharmacy and they give you it.

Thats about it.

Another way of saving a bit of money.. is there are generic for Ritalin as well. Your regular pharmacist should be able to offer you the generic ritalin at about half the price.

[Venom Rush]

Ideally you want a hospital with a psychiatric department. You stand in a cue to see a doctor. He then gives you a script, then you stand in a cue for the hospital pharmacy and they give you it.

Thats about it.

Another way of saving a bit of money.. is there are generic for Ritalin as well. Your regular pharmacist should be able to offer you the generic ritalin at about half the price.

So roughly how much does it cost? I'm assuming the generic is "over the counter"?

[garyb01]

Ideally you want a hospital with a psychiatric department. You stand in a cue to see a doctor. He then gives you a script, then you stand in a cue for the hospital pharmacy and they give you it.

Thats about it.

Another way of saving a bit of money.. is there are generic for Ritalin as well. Your regular pharmacist should be able to offer you the generic ritalin at about half the price.

Thank you very much for the reply.........will try that.

[ghoti]

So roughly how much does it cost? I'm assuming the generic is "over the counter"?
At the public hospital its free.
The generics for 120 pills is around R320
Ritalin for 120 pills was close on R700

Yes, its over the counter with a prescription.

[Nocturnity]

Yeah, this is a very real illness. I don't have it but I have an absolutlely horrid time communicating with people who do. My ex had it and she could never focus on a conversation she didn't find interesting and she was unable to listen at all. Talking wasn't much of an issue though. :D My trainer at gym must have it too. She'll start off with something and lose interest about halfway through, or she'll be telling me something and as someone walks by, she'll start talking to them, until something else distracts her.

This definitely isn't something that only affects the individuals suffering from it. :(

[ghoti]

Yeah, this is a very real illness. I don't have it but I have an absolutlely horrid time communicating with people who do. My ex had it and she could never focus on a conversation she didn't find interesting and she was unable to listen at all. Talking wasn't much of an issue though. :D My trainer at gym must have it too. She'll start off with something and lose interest about halfway through, or she'll be telling me something and as someone walks by, she'll start talking to them, until something else distracts her.

This definitely isn't something that only affects the individuals suffering from it. :(
Its no longer classed as an illness but as a personality type. Its also a very powerful tool if you are aware of it and know how to use it.

[Sensorei]

I've got ADHD and I'm 31. Diagnosed when I was 9. Exercise and diet keep it in check. I've always struggled with authority (because I always reckon I know best and concentration is a bitch) which caused problems at work quite a few times. My concentration goes from superhuman to retarded randomly. My solution was to be my own boss where I can work my own schedule and now I make more money than all my old ******* managers doing half the work. ADHD will only get you down if you let it. Its easier as you get older and know yourself better.

[ghoti]

I've got ADHD and I'm 31. Diagnosed when I was 9. Exercise and diet keep it in check. I've always struggled with authority (because I always reckon I know best and concentration is a bitch) which caused problems at work quite a few times. My concentration goes from superhuman to retarded randomly. My solution was to be my own boss where I can work my own schedule and now I make more money than all my old ******* managers doing half the work. ADHD will only get you down if you let it. Its easier as you get older and know yourself better.
Lucky bugger. My moms church just told her I was possessed and I didnt need Ritalin (as a kid). I was only diagnosed with it several years ago when I was 28. I really really wish I had had it at school. My mom tried the "prayer+health diet" route while I was a kid. It did not work.


ADHD is not a disability people. Its not an illness. Its a personality type. Well thats my definition. Famous people had ADHD .. like Einstein (now you know why he dropped outta school). People with ADHD are generally more intelligent than their normal counterparts. If you have ADHD you can multi task like theres no tomorrow. When I take Ritalin I see a massive drop off in my ability to do many tasks... but I do get up to date on account keeping and such :D

If I had a choice to be born with it.. or without it. I would still chose to be born with it :)

[HyperBudgie]

I've got ADHD and I'm 31. Diagnosed when I was 9. Exercise and diet keep it in check. I've always struggled with authority (because I always reckon I know best and concentration is a bitch) which caused problems at work quite a few times. My concentration goes from superhuman to retarded randomly. My solution was to be my own boss where I can work my own schedule and now I make more money than all my old ******* managers doing half the work. ADHD will only get you down if you let it. Its easier as you get older and know yourself better.

I only got diagnosed when I was in my 20s....As a kid I got beat senseless for being "scatter-brained" and "forgetful"..."not listening"..."day-dreaming"...Now I take Concerta every day and am functioning quite well...i skip the meds on weekends and drive my wife nuts but she gets it and has learned to live with a guy who brings back water instead of tea...

[garyb01]

Lucky bugger. My moms church just told her I was possessed and I didnt need Ritalin (as a kid). I was only diagnosed with it several years ago when I was 28. I really really wish I had had it at school. My mom tried the "prayer+health diet" route while I was a kid. It did not work.


ADHD is not a disability people. Its not an illness. Its a personality type. Well thats my definition. Famous people had ADHD .. like Einstein (now you know why he dropped outta school). People with ADHD are generally more intelligent than their normal counterparts. If you have ADHD you can multi task like theres no tomorrow. When I take Ritalin I see a massive drop off in my ability to do many tasks... but I do get up to date on account keeping and such :D

If I had a choice to be born with it.. or without it. I would still chose to be born with it :)

That's actually a very good way of approaching it....well put...gave me some food for thought....

Had a good chuckle at the prayer thing you mentioned...same my side :)

[HyperBudgie]

When I take Ritalin I see a massive drop off in my ability to do many tasks... but I do get up to date on account keeping and such :D



The main thing I notice when I take Ritalin/ Concerta is that my creativity disappears and my sense of humor dissipates slightly...I'm way more fun without Ritalin (Or at least I think so).

[Nanfeishen]

I'll definitely give it a try. Been battling with concentration since varsity - never went to class, because I simply can't concentrate (used to fall asleep :eek:). Same today with business meetings.

I also have this tendency to fire away at new projects/ventures at a maddening pace - I literally go into this hyper-focus mode that is very intensive - only to lose interest when it gets near completion. Then the serious procrastination kicks in, until I start something new that excites me. Wash. Rinse. Repeat.

My short-term memory is also a big problem.

Not necessarily ADHD or medical, but definitely an issue in a life style/time management sense.

Just a thought before you go off and get medicated or possibly over-diagnosed for something that may not be a problem.

Have you considered the idea that you simply have a low boredom threshold ?

While getting bored easily may be a symptom of ADD or ADHD, it does not mean that you have it.

Mundanity and routine may simply bore the hell out of you. Tasks like new projects challenge one to find results, innovate new ideas, encourage creativity etc, etc, in other words stimulate and challenge you mentally, they are food for the brain.
There is no stimulation once they settle down and begin to function routinely, hence they become boring and uninteresting, you lose focus of them and get bored with the mediocrity until the next challenge arises.
Day to day little things become meaningless, and your short term memory takes a knock because you are more often than not focusing your mind on the next project or challenge.
Spending long hours in a classroom/lecture hall becomes a major feat just to pay attention, and normall daily routine duties become dull and bland.

The trick is to find a study course/job that gives you the most leaway and the freedom to explore your ideas and fullfill your needs.

Unfortunately society seems more prone to encouraging the opposite.

[HyperBudgie]

Just a thought before you go off and get medicated or possibly over-diagnosed for something that may not be a problem.

Have you considered the idea that you simply have a low boredom threshold ?

While getting bored easily may be a symptom of ADD or ADHD, it does not mean that you have it.

Mundanity and routine may simply bore the hell out of you. Tasks like new projects challenge one to find results, innovate new ideas, encourage creativity etc, etc, in other words stimulate and challenge you mentally, they are food for the brain.
There is no stimulation once they settle down and begin to function routinely, hence they become boring and uninteresting, you lose focus of them and get bored with the mediocrity until the next challenge arises.
Day to day little things become meaningless, and your short term memory takes a knock because you are more often than not focusing your mind on the next project or challenge.
Spending long hours in a classroom/lecture hall becomes a major feat just to pay attention, and normall daily routine duties become dull and bland.

The trick is to find a study course/job that gives you the most leaway and the freedom to explore your ideas and fullfill your needs.

Unfortunately society seems more prone to encouraging the opposite.

Ideally, no meds would be awesome...However, we all need to function in society and if it takes medication to help me excel at work, stay focused and thrive in our society, then so be it.

[undesign]

Just a thought before you go off and get medicated or possibly over-diagnosed for something that may not be a problem.

Have you considered the idea that you simply have a low boredom threshold ?

While getting bored easily may be a symptom of ADD or ADHD, it does not mean that you have it.

Mundanity and routine may simply bore the hell out of you. Tasks like new projects challenge one to find results, innovate new ideas, encourage creativity etc, etc, in other words stimulate and challenge you mentally, they are food for the brain.
There is no stimulation once they settle down and begin to function routinely, hence they become boring and uninteresting, you lose focus of them and get bored with the mediocrity until the next challenge arises.
Day to day little things become meaningless, and your short term memory takes a knock because you are more often than not focusing your mind on the next project or challenge.
Spending long hours in a classroom/lecture hall becomes a major feat just to pay attention, and normall daily routine duties become dull and bland.

The trick is to find a study course/job that gives you the most leaway and the freedom to explore your ideas and fullfill your needs.

Unfortunately society seems more prone to encouraging the opposite.

Definitely possible. But I had a good look at it a while back, and much of the descriptions were eerily similar to what I experience. No harm having it checked out - I will approach this with a very open mind.

[ToxicBunny]

There is def no harm in getting it checked out...

But if the medical practioner jumps on ADHD very quickly, just beware and maybe get a 2nd opinion from someone else.

[ghoti]

I just did this ADHD test: http://counsellingresource.com/quizzes/adhd/index.html

I scored 79 where apparently anything over 70 means you may have ADHD :D Some of those questions, like the television and channels one fit me 100%.

I have also being reading that if your mom smoked during your pregnancy, then you have a good chance of having ADHD for some reason.

[Venom Rush]

I only got diagnosed when I was in my 20s....As a kid I got beat senseless for being "scatter-brained" and "forgetful"..."not listening"..."day-dreaming"...Now I take Concerta every day and am functioning quite well...i skip the meds on weekends and drive my wife nuts but she gets it and has learned to live with a guy who brings back water instead of tea...

hahaha...my gf gets it as well. I don't know why she's stayed around for so long :p

[ghoti]

For those of us with ADHD.... have you got the shirt? :D http://www.addconsults.com/store/images/adhdSHIRT.jpg A friend of mine made me one for my last birthday. Its this logo, but the logo is in yellow :D

[Human]

I just did this ADHD test: http://counsellingresource.com/quizzes/adhd/index.html

I scored 79 where apparently anything over 70 means you may have ADHD :D Some of those questions, like the television and channels one fit me 100%.

I have also being reading that if your mom smoked during your pregnancy, then you have a good chance of having ADHD for some reason.

Well I just scored 103...mostly the anger, quick temper,irritability questions were about a 5....as most of you can confirm. :D
The rest were a 4 and then a few 3's.

[undesign]

I scored 36.

So the Ritalin is working? :D

[HavocXphere]

ADHD is present in about ~5% of the population. Looking at this thread...either the stats are wrong or 50%+ of you guys are wrongly diagnosed/self-diagnosed.:erm: Or maybe this forum is one big statistical anomaly.

I def don't have it. But procrastinate like crazy so end result is about the same. Lack of willpower/interest FTL:(

[Nick333]

ADHD is present in about ~5% of the population. Looking at this thread...either the stats are wrong or 50%+ of you guys are wrongly diagnosed/self-diagnosed.:erm: Or maybe this forum is one big statistical anomaly.

I def don't have it. But procrastinate like crazy so end result is about the same. Lack of willpower/interest FTL:(

You find it strange that people who are potentially ADHD would respond to a thread about ADHD?

[BobsLawnService]

I have most of those but:

1. I'm just lazy.
2. I have a short attention span.
3. I'm scatterbrained.
4. Most authority figures really *are* worthy of nothing but contempt.

Oh, and I have a ridiculous fondness for stimulants. Ritilin is the equivalent of catnip for me. Love the stuff. Fell like God when I am on it. I have a really high IQ but I'm generally so unfocussed it means nothing.

[HavocXphere]

You find it strange that people who are potentially ADHD would respond to a thread about ADHD?
No, I'm quite aware that there will be a strong bias in this thread. I was merely pointing out that the stats feel off. Even if you assume ADHD people are 3x as likely as others to post here its still doesn't feel right. You're quite right though, there is no way to judge it reliably by the posts here.

An a side note, I'd also like that point out that ADHD is not a personality type and that buying a box of Ritalin & seeing if it works is not a valid test...Ritalin affects people without ADHD too. Else the students wouldn't use it to cram. ;)

[ghoti]

DNFTT

[HyperBudgie]

hahaha...my gf gets it as well. I don't know why she's stayed around for so long :p

It takes a lot of patience...

[HyperBudgie]

ADHD is present in about ~5% of the population. Looking at this thread...either the stats are wrong or 50%+ of you guys are wrongly diagnosed/self-diagnosed.:erm: Or maybe this forum is one big statistical anomaly.

I def don't have it. But procrastinate like crazy so end result is about the same. Lack of willpower/interest FTL:(

You need to go to a psychiatrist and a psychologist...Go through rigorous testing and then get diagnosed...The failure and misdiagnoses happens at the GPs offices where they are quick to slap the Ritalin script into your hand...But those of us who DO have ADD/ ADHD...Ritalin is a life saver...I lost 2 jobs because I thought I could cope without Ritalin...Now I know better.

[ghoti]

I have most of those but:

1. I'm just lazy.
2. I have a short attention span.
3. I'm scatterbrained.
4. Most authority figures really *are* worthy of nothing but contempt.

Oh, and I have a ridiculous fondness for stimulants. Ritilin is the equivalent of catnip for me. Love the stuff. Fell like God when I am on it. I have a really high IQ but I'm generally so unfocussed it means nothing.

Geez! I want your stuff. All I get is an ability to concentrate harder and more importantly, have the "background channels" in my mind silenced to be able concentrate on one task. I also feel less hungry. Thats about it. I want your stuff if it makes you feel Godlike.

[HyperBudgie]

+1

[undesign]

No, I'm quite aware that there will be a strong bias in this thread. I was merely pointing out that the stats feel off. Even if you assume ADHD people are 3x as likely as others to post here its still doesn't feel right. You're quite right though, there is no way to judge it reliably by the posts here.

:confused:

Too lazy to count, but 75 posts, let's be generous and say 50 of them are different forumites (who have/possibly have ADHD).

MyBB members - 68,000

Current members online - 1358

50 equals 3.6% of those online and 0.07% of MyBB members...

OK, I know the calcs are off, too many unknown variables, just wanted to test my concentration. :p

[HyperBudgie]

:confused:

Too lazy to count, but 75 posts, let's be generous and say 50 of them are different forumites (who have/possibly have ADHD).

MyBB members - 68,000

Current members online - 1358

50 equals 3.6% of those online and 0.07% of MyBB members...

OK, I know the calcs are off, too many unknown variables, just wanted to test my concentration. :p

LOL:D

[ghoti]

:confused:

Too lazy to count, but 75 posts, let's be generous and say 50 of them are different forumites (who have/possibly have ADHD).

MyBB members - 68,000

Current members online - 1358

50 equals 3.6% of those online and 0.07% of MyBB members...

OK, I know the calcs are off, too many unknown variables, just wanted to test my concentration. :p

I was thinking the same thing.. then I thought "this oke is a .... and is not worth the energy to try correct, I have better things to do with my time.. like post in the TK" :D You concentration does well in this post :D GZ

[Human]

Microfocus FTW! :D

[HyperBudgie]

This thread seems to be distracting me from what I should be doing...I think...

[Human]

Mailed my doctor and he just phoned me to say that he'll give me a script for 1 month for Ritilan as he wont argue with me as he can see that I have done some homework on this subject.
Will go see him this week I think.

[BobsLawnService]

w1z4rd: As I say, I have a sensitivity to stimulants. I really enjoy that razor sharp focus. Makes me feel like I can solve anything.

[Human]

w1z4rd: As I say, I have a sensitivity to stimulants. I really enjoy that razor sharp focus. Makes me feel like I can solve anything.

What does it feel like?

[BobsLawnService]

Kage, I thought everyone felt it. Since they don't it's probably a psychological reaction. My brain generally buzzes like a fridge. Do you know how it sometimes feels to be under incredible stress at work and you put your head down and hit the zone where you are focussed on a task like a razor's edge, the rest of the world goes away, you get a euphoric high and the next thing you know it's six hours later and you've done a week's work?

Like that.

[ghoti]

What does it feel like?
Not much, just an enhanced focus and the ability to focus on one thing very easily. Let us know what its like for you :D


Kage, I thought everyone felt it. Since they don't it's probably a psychological reaction. My brain generally buzzes like a fridge. Do you know how it sometimes feels to be under incredible stress at work and you put your head down and hit the zone where you are focussed on a task like a razor's edge, the rest of the world goes away, you get a euphoric high and the next thing you know it's six hours later and you've done a week's work?

Like that.

Ive never felt that. I dont feel high on it at all. I know if you sniff it you can get a high.... not met anyone (and I know a good couple of kids on it), who have felt what you did. Getting high on that must be so much fun! Coffee and sugar must really effect you.

[HyperBudgie]

Kage, I thought everyone felt it. Since they don't it's probably a psychological reaction. My brain generally buzzes like a fridge. Do you know how it sometimes feels to be under incredible stress at work and you put your head down and hit the zone where you are focussed on a task like a razor's edge, the rest of the world goes away, you get a euphoric high and the next thing you know it's six hours later and you've done a week's work?

Like that.

Must be nice...Ritalin just makes the noise stop and affords me the opportunity to focus...I don't get all orgasmic about completing tasks that I started...

[Human]

Oh...sounds err interesting.

[Human]

Wiz are there times when you dont take it?
Part of my job is to multitask but I would like to focus at times where I am able to complete tasks required.

[HyperBudgie]

Wiz are there times when you dont take it?
Part of my job is to multitask but I would like to focus at times where I am able to complete tasks required.

You can take the short acting tablets, 2 x 10mg, will last about 4-6 hours.

[ghoti]

Wiz are there times when you dont take it?
Part of my job is to multitask but I would like to focus at times where I am able to complete tasks required.

I actually dont medicate often anymore. Perhaps once or twice a month. Normally towards the end of the month. Or if I have loads of admin work to do. There are no issues with stopping and starting Ritalin as you feel like it. When I started it, I used to take it daily...made a huge difference in my life.. after a couple of years I now only take it occasionally. Take in the mornings not in the evenings. Try not take it after lunchtime, otherwise you will not enjoy your dinner or sleep as restfully.

Remember this is not a depressant so it does not slow you down. It stimulates parts of your brain to keep up with the side thats over working. It is a pretty strong drug, and if you want to eat regularly you might not wanna take on weekends.

Personality changes you will notice will be that you will be more calm and collected. You are more serious and that can be a good or a bad thing.

So in a nutshell my advice would be to take it regularly in the mornings when you wake up for a couple of weeks, then after a while choose if you want it all the time or not.

[HyperBudgie]

I actually dont medicate often anymore. Perhaps once or twice a month. Normally towards the end of the month. Or if I have loads of admin work to do. There are no issues with stopping and starting Ritalin as you feel like it. When I started it, I used to take it daily...made a huge difference in my life.. after a couple of years I now only take it occasionally. Take in the mornings not in the evenings. Try not take it after lunchtime, otherwise you will not enjoy your dinner or sleep as restfully.

Remember this is not a depressant so it does not slow you down. It stimulates parts of your brain to keep up with the side thats over working. It is a pretty strong drug, and if you want to eat regularly you might not wanna take on weekends.

Personality changes you will notice will be that you will be more calm and collected. You are more serious and that can be a good or a bad thing.

So in a nutshell my advice would be to take it regularly in the mornings when you wake up for a couple of weeks, then after a while choose if you want it all the time or not.

I agree, however, each person is different and professional advice should be sought first, we aren't talking about Redbull here.

[garyb01]

You need to go to a psychiatrist and a psychologist...Go through rigorous testing and then get diagnosed...The failure and misdiagnoses happens at the GPs offices where they are quick to slap the Ritalin script into your hand...But those of us who DO have ADD/ ADHD...Ritalin is a life saver...I lost 2 jobs because I thought I could cope without Ritalin...Now I know better.

+1, couldn't have put it better myself

[garyb01]

I actually dont medicate often anymore. Perhaps once or twice a month. Normally towards the end of the month. Or if I have loads of admin work to do. There are no issues with stopping and starting Ritalin as you feel like it. When I started it, I used to take it daily...made a huge difference in my life.. after a couple of years I now only take it occasionally. Take in the mornings not in the evenings. Try not take it after lunchtime, otherwise you will not enjoy your dinner or sleep as restfully.

Remember this is not a depressant so it does not slow you down. It stimulates parts of your brain to keep up with the side thats over working. It is a pretty strong drug, and if you want to eat regularly you might not wanna take on weekends.

Personality changes you will notice will be that you will be more calm and collected. You are more serious and that can be a good or a bad thing.

So in a nutshell my advice would be to take it regularly in the mornings when you wake up for a couple of weeks, then after a while choose if you want it all the time or not.

I tried not having on weekends.....really hard....until I woke up one Saturday morning and my loving wife had made me a lovely cup of coffee and placed it next to the bedside along with a Concerta....I got the hint... :) ... marital bliss now prevails :)

[HyperBudgie]

I tried not having on weekends.....really hard....until I woke up one Saturday morning and my loving wife had made me a lovely cup of coffee and placed it next to the bedside along with a Concerta....I got the hint... :) ... marital bliss now prevails :)

Amen brother...

[ghoti]

Yes, two studies which show that fish oil benefits ADHD symptoms.

Why are you so antagonistic towards fish oil?

I believe in proper treatment, not just nutrition based.

[HyperBudgie]

I believe in proper treatment, not just nutrition based.

I tried the whole "alternative medicine" thing. Vitamins, Omega fatty acids (from fish oil) and the kitchen sink...I was unemployed within 4 months. They DO NOT WORK.

[Oculate]

Instead of blatantly self diagnosing myself for having this, my father and my brother both have ADHD...I don't have the ADHD in me, but it would be interesting to have a psychologist's opinion on the subject

[Venom Rush]

I was doing some research and came across a thread where someone mentioned Neurovance. Could be a good alternative to Ritlin tec

http://digitalnatives.co.za/general-discussion/why-my-adhd-is-a-love-hate-relationship/15/

[Human]

Yes, two studies which show that fish oil benefits ADHD symptoms.

Why are you so antagonistic towards fish oil?

He doesnt like fish! :D


I was doing some research and came across a thread where someone mentioned Neurovance. Could be a good alternative to Ritlin tec

http://digitalnatives.co.za/general-discussion/why-my-adhd-is-a-love-hate-relationship/15/

Hahahahaha....
Thanks.

[daveza]

Hand up - been on Rit for about 8 years.

Keeps you alert, keeps you focused and keeps you thin :-)

[ghoti]

So Kage.. started medication yet?

[hilton]

Hand up - been on Rit for about 8 years.

keeps you thin :-)

Now we're talking...........

[daveza]

Now we're talking...........

It's an appetitie suppressant ;)

[hilton]

My biggest problem is when I sit down in front of the TV at night, I just can't concentrate on the movies so I end up looking for something to eat to keep me occupied. Not good.

[daveza]

Excellent article if it hasn't been posted already -

http://www.health24.com/medical/Cond...4386,58719.asp

[daveza]

Oh - one negative on Ritalin:-

Wear a bite-plate otherwise you may grind your teeth away depending on the dosage you use.

[BBSA]

Excellent article if it hasn't been posted already -

http://www.health24.com/medical/Cond...4386,58719.asp

Something wrong with the link

[hilton]

Something wrong with the link

Just click on it then hit the search button and the first google entry will be the one you want.

[daveza]

http://www.health24.com/medical/Condition_centres/777-792-4382-4386,58719.asp

[ghoti]

Also Ritalin reduces saliva production thus promoting tooth decay similar to what amphetamines do though not as severe. Google "meth mouth".

lol @ your post. Yeah cause "meth mouth" has relevance to this conversation :rolleyes:

Its like me telling you not to eat fish oil incase you get eaten by a shark :D

[undesign]

Hand up - been on Rit for about 8 years.

Do you have any recommendations for specialists in your area? So far I've found a psychiatrist in Milnerton who specialises in adult ADD.

[daveza]

Do you have any recommendations for specialists in your area? So far I've found a psychiatrist in Milnerton who specialises in adult ADD.


Alida J Kotze
(Psychiatrist)
19 Mountain View Crescent
Durbanville 7550
Tel: (021) 976-7157
Fax: (021) 976-0744
Special Interests: Attention Deficit Hyperactivity Disorder, Obsessive-Compulsive Disorder, Tourette Syndrome

[undesign]

Alida J Kotze
(Psychiatrist)
19 Mountain View Crescent
Durbanville 7550
Tel: (021) 976-7157
Fax: (021) 976-0744
Special Interests: Attention Deficit Hyperactivity Disorder, Obsessive-Compulsive Disorder, Tourette Syndrome

thanks Dave

[Venom Rush]

Special Interests: Attention Deficit Hyperactivity Disorder, Obsessive-Compulsive Disorder, Tourette Syndrome

Now I know where to send my gf :p

[daveza]

It depends on what she is obsessive-compulsive about .... :-)

[EchoZA]

ADH... Hey let's go ride bikes!

Jokes aside, I do suffer but have it under... Oh! shinnies :)

[ghoti]

I was responding to daveza's above post where he warns about damage to teeth so actually my post is quite relevant.
I know, I was responding to your post by giving it context :D A type of satire I think :D


Meth mouth is defined as a tooth decay pattern associated with amphetamine, cocaine, and methylphenidate (Ritalin) use.
Fish deaths can occur while swimming with sharks, playing with piranha `s, kissing killer whales and drowning in fish oil is a very real risk.


This is another scientific fact
What I am saying about fish is scientific fact as well.


getting upset with me for saying it won't change its truth.
:confused: Im not upset. Im pretty chilled and happy. You lack the ability to read my emotion.

[zamicro]

I just took the online test and scored 93... I cannot believe how many unfinished things/projects I have at home. At the office it is ok, perhaps because I *HAVE* to ensure it gets done. Perhaps I need to see the doc as well. Looking at the posts above, I recognize many of my own habits/symptoms.

[Human]

Well today is the day #1.
Feel "solid" and not "floaty" today.

[Venom Rush]

I'm going to get myself Neurovance today. I'll let you guys know how it goes ;)

[Venom Rush]

Well today is the day #1.
Feel "solid" and not "floaty" today.

I find that a quick trip to the little boys room helps with that ;)

[Venom Rush]

I'm going to get myself Neurovance today. I'll let you guys know how it goes ;)

Ok, R130 later I have Neurovance...just taken two tablets. Let's see how it goes.

Two tablets contain:
Neuronase™ - 230mg
Rhodiola extract - 10:1 - 20mg
Ginkgo biloba extract 5:1 - 100mg
Alpha lipoic acid - 30mg
Omega 3 Powder - 150mg
L-phenylalanine - 150mg
Ginseng extract 10:1 - 20mg
Vit B 12 - 25mcg

[killadoob]

Sounds like you just wasted your money too me but anyways thanx for giving us a review :D.

[ghoti]

Kage has been pretty quiet on the forums lately. I wonder if the Ritalin has kicked in and his working harder? :D

[Human]

Kage has been pretty quiet on the forums lately. I wonder if the Ritalin has kicked in and his working harder? :D

Actually...I am. :D

It is odd...the "need" had to multi-task is gone.
I can now do one thing at a time, complete it and then move on.
It feels like a spotlight as opposed to a floodlight. Make sense?

[ghoti]

Actually...I am. :D

It is odd...the "need" had to multi-task is gone.
I can now do one thing at a time, complete it and then move on.
It feels like a spotlight as opposed to a floodlight. Make sense?
I totally understand :D Well .. welcome to the Ritalin club :D Your life will become a lot less complicated I think :D

[killadoob]

Stupid question but can i take it with welbutrin?

Welburtrin is good for keeping the smoking at bay. This ritalin sounds like something i badly need. So would you say i should off welbutrin and onto ritalin?

[ghoti]

Stupid question but can i take it with welbutrin?

Welburtrin is good for keeping the smoking at bay. This ritalin sounds like something i badly need. So would you say i should off welbutrin and onto ritalin?
I was told not to take Ritalin and Zyban together... I dont know if your drug is related, but I have being told not to mix those two.

[HyperBudgie]

Stupid question but can i take it with welbutrin?

Welburtrin is good for keeping the smoking at bay. This ritalin sounds like something i badly need. So would you say i should off welbutrin and onto ritalin?

Yes you can, I was on it with Aropax, which is more intense than Welbutrin. Welbutrin is an ssri (antidepressant) - similar to Zyban...Works with seretonin, Ritalin works with dopamine...You should be fine...But ask a professional just to be safe.

[killadoob]

Yes you can. Welbutrin is ssri (antidepressant)...Works with seretonin, Ritalin works with dopamine...You should be fine...But ask a professional just to be safe.

Ok cool cause without welbutrin cigi's make my mouth water :D.

I don't think they actually know how zyban works though but i don't think it is serotonin

Some physicians feel Wellbutrin is ideal for ADHD because they think it may act on the neuro-transmitters dopamine and norepinephrine.

[spiff]

To all the naysayers out there: ADD /ADHD in adults is not an excuse or a figment of the imagination! Its does exist! Suffered from this all my life! Reports at school always were something along this line: "Gary is a gifted and highly intelligent pupil, if only he would learn to apply himself, if only he would learn to concentrate etc etc". Those days of course, the "Medication" was six of the best and a teacher who felt satisfied with himself having beaten the crap out of an "ill-disciplined young Sh*t causer, without manners"! Still disgusts me!

Last year when I was finally diagnosed at the age of 40, my life changed completely! My Mom watched the episode last night and knowing my diagnoses, actually called me last night to apologise to me for all those years that I went undiagnosed and what I had to go through up until I finally received help. :(

Starting projects with such vigour and then losing interest is a common problem, feeling depressed because you feel misunderstood all the time, relationship issues and arguments, divorces, grumpy and low all the time, unable to finish even the smallest and easiest of tasks some times, not being able to read and finish a book, study at school, low marks when you know for a fact that you know all the work and if they would just ask you to do an oral exam and tell them about them the work instead of having to write it down, because you really just cannot write it down, you would get 100% etc etc...Lost keys, lost phones, car accidents,

NO **** man!! u practically described my life there! but my sex provider says my problem is more like Bi Polar :(

[HyperBudgie]

NO **** man!! u practically described my life there! but my sex provider says my problem is more like Bi Polar :(

Try living with both disorders...Gets complicated after a while.

[undesign]

Actually...I am. :D

It is odd...the "need" had to multi-task is gone.
I can now do one thing at a time, complete it and then move on.
It feels like a spotlight as opposed to a floodlight. Make sense?

That sounds good Kage.

I've made an appointment to check it out. Earliest date 16 Nov, so I might try someone else. :(

[Venom Rush]

Well today is the day #1.
Feel "solid" and not "floaty" today.

Just over an hour after taking the Neurovance and I can totally relate to what you're feeling.

[Human]

Those random thoughts I had are gone.

I also don't have the "lack of creativity" that some report but it feels as if there is a significant method of control of the creativity. This was something I was concerned about as I paint.
However it is almost as if it went from "organic chaotic art" to "geometric ordered art".

[HyperBudgie]

Those random thoughts I had are gone.

I also don't have the "lack of creativity" that some report but it feels as if there is a significant method of control of the creativity. This was something I was concerned about as I paint.
However it is almost as if it went from "organic chaotic art" to "geometric ordered art".

I write music and I lose a whole lot of what makes my music mine. I can focus but find that those random "accidental" creations disappear when I'm on Ritalin.

[Human]

I write music and I lose a whole lot of what makes my music mine. I can focus but find that those random "accidental" creations disappear when I'm on Ritalin.

I understand.
Is there perhaps a way you can focus your non-accidental creativity?
I don't think that the accidental creations are gone.
I just think that they are now standing in line waiting for you to get to them. Like little soldiers.

[HyperBudgie]

I understand.
Is there perhaps a way you can focus your non-accidental creativity?
I don't think that the accidental creations are gone.
I just think that they are now standing in line waiting for you to get to them. Like little soldiers.

I've tried, but there is a definite lack of inspiration when I'm on Ritalin. Besides, I skip Ritalin on weekends, so it doesn't really matter. I like the zest I have when I don't take Ritalin and I can get completely immersed in my music and lose myself in my own musical chaos. I write it all down, record most of it then refine it all later on Ritalin.

[hilton]

Ok, R130 later I have Neurovance...just taken two tablets. Let's see how it goes.


Ok, I've just been to the GP who prescribed 30 days of Concerta 27mg. Cost me R500.

What is your dosage and how many pills?

[Human]

I've been given 30mg for 2 months at about R500 per script I think.

I'll be taking Ritalin tomorrow and then not on Sunday to see the difference.

[killadoob]

500 bucks, wizard said we can get it free!!!!!!!

How much the generic?

[Mike Hoxbig]

I keep reading this dang thread title as "Adult DVD", tempting me to click on it :D

[Human]

I keep reading this dang thread title as "Adult DVD", tempting me to click on it :D

:D

[Human]

500 bucks, wizard said we can get it free!!!!!!!

How much the generic?

Mine is through my doctor at a pharmacy.
Medical aid covers it - MSA.

[Murdoc]

I have two colleagues who use Ritalin
We are in a creative agency and they are very creative and artistic individuals –
Apparently there are a lot of designers who use this stuff.

[ghoti]

500 bucks, wizard said we can get it free!!!!!!!

How much the generic?
You can get it free from public hospitals. Instructions on what to do are further back in this thread.

The generics are roughly about half the price of Ritalin. My pharmacist stocks them :D

[killadoob]

You can get it free from public hospitals. Instructions on what to do are further back in this thread.

The generics are roughly about half the price of Ritalin. My pharmacist stocks them :D

Ya let me just hear from my doc after his consultations today, i cannot afford 500 bucks for Ritalin and 350 for welbutrin :D. Although that is still less than the 1.2k smoking habit so i actually could.

Still half price sounds good :D.

Are generics exactly the same? I heard the welbutrin generic gives a ton of bad side effect compared to the original.

[ghoti]

Ya let me just hear from my doc after his consultations today, i cannot afford 500 bucks for Ritalin and 350 for welbutrin :D. Although that is still less than the 1.2k smoking habit so i actually could.

Still half price sounds good :D.

Are generics exactly the same? I heard the welbutrin generic gives a ton of bad side effect compared to the original.

Exactly the same. Well the ones I have. Tested them in more ways than one :D

[killadoob]

Exactly the same. Well the ones I have. Tested them in more ways than one :D

Hmmm was it better up the nose or swallowing?

[HyperBudgie]

Ya let me just hear from my doc after his consultations today, i cannot afford 500 bucks for Ritalin and 350 for welbutrin :D. Although that is still less than the 1.2k smoking habit so i actually could.

Still half price sounds good :D.

Are generics exactly the same? I heard the welbutrin generic gives a ton of bad side effect compared to the original.

The generic is called: Douglas Methylphenidate. R333.00 for 120 x 10mg.

[Human]

Oh btw.
What about drinking and R?

[ghoti]

Hmmm was it better up the nose or swallowing?
Swallowing.

Up the nose will make you high like sniffing coke, you also stand a high chance of addiction and you personality goes for a ball of sheet. Definitely dont recommend snorting it. If you dont know if you will be able to manage this, I advise Conserta (they come in waxy tablets so you cant abuse them).

[HyperBudgie]

Hmmm was it better up the nose or swallowing?

Its feels better if you do it in the way that gets it into your blood stream the fastest.

[HyperBudgie]

Oh btw.
What about drinking and R?

Headache for me.But I'm on all sorts of ****.

[killadoob]

No i have no issues with snorting, had my problems but they were never need to snort everyday, just recreational.

So i should be able to handle it :D. What about the tolerance, do you guys find you become tolerant and need high doses?

[HyperBudgie]

No i have no issues with snorting, had my problems but they were never need to snort everyday, just recreational.

So i should be able to handle it :D. What about the tolerance, do you guys find you become tolerant and need high doses?

Only if you snort it. It can get out of hand. I take Concerta now, safer for me.

[Human]

No i have no issues with snorting, had my problems but they were never need to snort everyday, just recreational.

So i should be able to handle it :D. What about the tolerance, do you guys find you become tolerant and need high doses?

Just make sure you are using for the right reasons.
I'm not using it as recreational. I'm using it because I have to.

[killadoob]

Just make sure you are using for the right reasons.
I'm not using it as recreational. I'm using it because I have to.

Hell no i need something really bad.

I took the adhd test and scored 107. Believe me i have left this way too long. The worst is concentration and not listening when people talk obviously because i am not concentrating on what they are saying.

[Venom Rush]

Ok, I've just been to the GP who prescribed 30 days of Concerta 27mg. Cost me R500.

What is your dosage and how many pills?

The bottle contains 60 capsules and you take 2 after a meal (once a day).

[garyb01]

Went to the quack...er...doc yesterday, changed mine from concerta 54mg to 2 x 30mg Ritilan per day......Eish....R 1260.00 later... worth it though...

[copacetic]

Just make sure you are using for the right reasons.
I'm not using it as recreational. I'm using it because I have to.

What are you taking? Sorry, haven't been following thread.

[Human]

Went to the quack...er...doc yesterday, changed mine from concerta 54mg to 2 x 30mg Ritilan per day......Eish....R 1260.00 later... worth it though...

2 x 30mg?
I was told to only take 1.


What are you taking? Sorry, haven't been following thread.

Ritalin since this morning @ 1 x 30mg per day.

[killadoob]

How has it been kage?

Heard it works in a couple hours.

[Human]

It took effect in about 1/2 hour.

It is my first day.
Dry mouth, lack of appetite but focused.

[copacetic]

2 x 30mg?
I was told to only take 1.

Ritalin since this morning @ 1 x 30mg per day.

Heh, interested to see how that goes.

[Human]

Heh, interested to see how that goes.

Read a page or two back.

[killadoob]

I am waiting to hear about the come down and if there is one.

[daveza]

See what I can answer here.

Ritalin generic is not the same as Ritalin - don't ask why, but check the net and you will find quite a bit about it.
Also at last check the generic are not that much cheaper.

2 x 30mg Ritalin is a hell of a dose and you will probably stay up the whole night.

Drinking alcohol while on Rit has no negative effect.

Side effects - appetite suppressant, teeth grinding, it's a stimulant so don't take too late if you want to sleep.



Come down - when your Rit wears off you will know - I don't even need a clock anymore. But there is no cold turkey withdrawal ;)

Rit comes in standard, slow release and long acting. I've found the second two not to be as effective as the standard tabs.

60 Ten mg tabs should cost around R300 - R350

[garyb01]

2 x 30mg?
I was told to only take 1.



Ritalin since this morning @ 1 x 30mg per day.

It is quite a heavy dose, but that's MY dose and what was determined to be sufficient for me..... 2 x 30mg L/A. I take one at 6:30 am and another at 14:30, usually feel it wear off at around 20:30....

[Drunkard #1]

ADHD is present in about ~5% of the population. Looking at this thread...either the stats are wrong or 50%+ of you guys are wrongly diagnosed/self-diagnosed.:erm: Or maybe this forum is one big statistical anomaly.

I def don't have it. But procrastinate like crazy so end result is about the same. Lack of willpower/interest FTL:(

I haven't read the rest of this (long) thread yet, but yes, this forum is one big statistical anomaly.

[hilton]

Ok, been taking Concerta for two days now (27mg) and can't say I've noticed a difference (I'm 125kgs). However my GP did say I needed to get a proper clinical evaluation by a pychiatrist to get another prescription so maybe I'll double my dosage and see the shrink earlier.

[Human]

Day #3:

Took R on Friday and there was a definite difference in my behavior and thought processes.
Took R yesterday in order to see how it is outside of the office when there is not a lot to do aside from the chores.

Well some interesting things were noted. I would like some input from you guys on my experiences.

It takes about 30 minutes to 45 minutes to take effect with me.
Sweaty palms and a slight "single mindedness" about things.
There is also a significant quiet in my mind.

Side Note:I never even registered all the random thoughts i had in my head and for the first time I understand my distractions and rather surprised that i have coped so long. now i am just so sorry about all the missed opportunities during my school years.

There is less of a need to multitask as stated before and this allows me to be able to do things.
R is not really changing my behaviour as much but more allowing ME to change my behaviour. I still have a choice to do what I want to do when I want to do it but the most crucial thing is that I now have a choice.

There are 2 things that i noted outside of a working environment.
The first is the fact that there is less of a need to talk. No more constant nattering and I had to grin on the inside when myself and the SO had an argument about something and where I would normally add fuel to the fire by arguing my mind...I just kept quiet. The fuel was removed and the SO just stood there... :D

The other thing that I have noted on Friday and just put it aside and then noticed again yesterday...this is going to read a bit silly...it almost...feels as if there are more seconds in a minute. Hehehehe. Trust me. I know what it reads like. It is just I dont know how else to describe it...there are just more seconds in a minute. :o :D
I think someone else posted earlier in this thread that he did a weeks work in 6 hours.

Oh and the crankiness is not gone...it seems that I actually am a bit of a cranky bastard. I am just now able to focus it more. :D

I would like to thank you guys actually for making me realise that I need help.
Thanks.

[noxibox]

Ritalin generic is not the same as Ritalin - don't ask why, but check the net and you will find quite a bit about it.
Many people don't realise there is more to a drug than the chemical the pill delivers, thus a generic could deliver the active ingredient faster or slower and make more or less of the drug available. And some people might have a reaction to the other components of the pill.

[ghoti]

Hooray for Kage!

[HyperBudgie]

Ok, been taking Concerta for two days now (27mg) and can't say I've noticed a difference (I'm 125kgs). However my GP did say I needed to get a proper clinical evaluation by a pychiatrist to get another prescription so maybe I'll double my dosage and see the shrink earlier.

I weigh 85kgs and am on 54mg Concerta. I also had no benefit from the 27s.

[hilton]

I weigh 85kgs and am on 54mg Concerta. I also had no benefit from the 27s.

Thanks. Decided to take 2 x 27mg from today. Let's see how that works out. Just need to see a shrink earlier now :-)

[spiff]

I just did this ADHD test: http://counsellingresource.com/quizzes/adhd/index.html

I scored 79 where apparently anything over 70 means you may have ADHD :D Some of those questions, like the television and channels one fit me 100%.

I have also being reading that if your mom smoked during your pregnancy, then you have a good chance of having ADHD for some reason.

oh **** - I scored 94 :(

[hilton]

oh **** - I scored 94 :(

My wife did the test on my behalf (more honest answers I guess) and I scored 107.

Eish.

[killadoob]

Ok so the doc reckons welbutrin and ritalin is not a good idea and was not willing to risk anything by giving me a script.

So today i go off welbutrin cold turkey. Goodness me i am worried about the smoking thing though.

Does ritalin help with wanting to smoke? Also concerta seems a better choice considering is releases better than ritalin and i don't have to worry about getting a case of the sniffles :D.

[hilton]

Also concerta seems a better choice considering is releases better than ritalin and i don't have to worry about getting a case of the sniffles :D.

Yes Concerta is a slow releasing drug which helps adults for the whole day.

[Voicy]

I just did this ADHD test: http://counsellingresource.com/quizzes/adhd/index.html

I scored 79 where apparently anything over 70 means you may have ADHD :D Some of those questions, like the television and channels one fit me 100%.

I have also being reading that if your mom smoked during your pregnancy, then you have a good chance of having ADHD for some reason.

I'm sorry but you don't have ADHD then. The test is a trick. If you could concentrate long enough to finish the test, it's all the proof required to indicate that you're not. :p

But yeah, my sig is my proof.

[Endgame]

Actually there's some truth to what Voicy says - I have a friend - a "classic case" - who was simply unable to complete the questionaire.

I get 55 so I'm out of the woods... but wait, if I complete a different test on Dr Jeeva's website (http://www.adhdclinicjeeva.com/self-test.html?task=showmbmod&mid=32&mbcsr32configid=1) I score 49 & am in urgent need of therapy :confused:

I have the symptoms of ADHD but without the H - is there such a thing?

[hilton]

Yes there is.

ADHD basically reveals itself in one of two forms or a combination thereof.

ADHD-I is the form where one is predominantly Inattentive.

[zamicro]

Ok, so today was day 1 for me. I cannot say that I noticed any difference, but when I look back at what I accomplished today, it must be working! I went through quite a lot of things on my to-do list.

[undesign]

I'm sick, so I may wait a few days, otherwise tomorrow is Day 1 for me. Saw a psychiatrist today and he agreed with my assessment of ADD. Low dosage prescribed, working up to 10mg twice per day.

[zamicro]

Interesting thing I discovered today: It is almost as if I HAVE to do the things that I would normally leave for later... That is probably why I am more productive.

[ghoti]

Interesting thing I discovered today: It is almost as if I HAVE to do the things that I would normally leave for later... That is probably why I am more productive.

Haha, good to see its making a difference.

[LilJohn]

Well, sometimes when I am playing online poker I will be in the middle of a han.... oooooh look... midget pr0n...

:D:twisted:

[Mila]

106.

[DJ Yoda]

Just a theoretical question...
How does ritalin and weed work together?

[killadoob]

Just a theoretical question...
How does ritalin and weed work together?

I doubt there is one general rule for it. It can be great or the worst thing that can happen is you freak out and murder your family.

Try and report back. We will call you GP mybb test 01

[DJ Yoda]

I doubt there is one general rule for it. It can be great or the worst thing that can happen is you freak out and murder your family.

Try and report back. We will call you GP mybb test 01

1. Why would anyone freak out on weed to such an extent?
2. Getting Ritalin is a problem, thats why this question is theoretical.

[DJ Yoda]

Come on, people, share your experience please!

[Waste]

This whole ADHD thing drives me mental....

Its the bloody "easy" option for a lot of medical practioners because it involves giving the person some pills to take constantly..
I'm not denying the condition exists, but its WAY overdiagnosed.

Agreed, it's to easy to say ... oh that sounds like me.... we are all lazy... and forget things... and struggle in life...


Well, sometimes when I am playing online poker I will be in the middle of a han.... oooooh look... midget pr0n...

lol you hit the spot.... or like I'm in the middle of my nice code algorithm then... oh look a new myBB thread...

[noxibox]

Agreed, it's to easy to say ... oh that sounds like me.... we are all lazy... and forget things... and struggle in life...
If someone wants ritalin a doctor should give it to them. If a person finds it beneficial they should be allowed to take it.

[Dames]

If someone wants ritalin a doctor should give it to them. If a person finds it beneficial they should be allowed to take it.

Agreed, it helps so many people. Esp. with studying for exams and stuff! It's like the miracle drug...

I take concerta btw, I am a diagnosed ADHD case :D

[killadoob]

Ok

Got my concerta i decided on it rather than ritalin as i have a sniffing problem and maybe my curiosity would get the better of me :D.

Hope it works!!!!!!!!

540 bucks though :eek:, but if it works i guess well worth the dosh.

Ok my first day on concerta:

Took it at 9 felts great until about 11 slapped another one back which lasted til about 3 and now i am having some serious withdrawals.
Damn i feel like i need 3 36mg tablets :eek:

Focus and energy was awesome until it ran out :D. Anything i am doing wrong to make it last such a short period of time?

[spiff]

ok so I got my doctor to prescribe ritalin 10mg (novartis) and have been on it for 2 weeks now. must say....I've done things I could just not get around to doing before. was always a mental battle and 99% of the time the TV & couch won. Also notice when it starts to wear off, then my mind starts to loose focus. It seems to only last about ±4hrs?

Question - Is 10mg - twice a day a start point? does the dosage get higher? and does it last longer?

[hilton]

Focus and energy was awesome until it ran out :D. Anything i am doing wrong to make it last such a short period of time?


It seems to only last about ±4hrs?

Question - Is 10mg - twice a day a start point? does the dosage get higher? and does it last longer?

It would seem that your dosage is too low. Did a psychiatrist prescribe the meds? My shrink says I should use 2 x 54mg per day as it's not an issue to take a higher dosage.

Phone up the shrink and get them to up your dosage or try more pills per day for a couple of days and see what the effect is.

[killadoob]

Well i am now taking 2 36mg in the morning and one in the afternoon and honestly i hate doing anything. I get a lekka boost for like 2 hours then it's like i have taken nothing.

Even 2 36mg tablets run out by like 2, i must then take another one. Now that is 3 a day and what 1.5k a month. F that, finishing this bottle and then i dunno what perhaps try ritalin rather. Should have just got that in the first place. Perhaps adderall. I think it is the slow release that is the problem.

I do enjoy the calming effect though.

[hilton]

You're missing the point killadoob. I'm suggesting your just try the 'bigger' dosage first to see if it makes a difference then get a script for a larger dosage pill. For example 27mg Concerta is about R496 whilst the 54mg is only R540.

See it might not be R1.5k then?

[spiff]

It would seem that your dosage is too low. Did a psychiatrist prescribe the meds? My shrink says I should use 2 x 54mg per day as it's not an issue to take a higher dosage.

Phone up the shrink and get them to up your dosage or try more pills per day for a couple of days and see what the effect is.


hmmm thought so. no my GP prescribed them after I wrote a long list of "life long symptoms" for him to read - otherwise I forget what I was there for in the first place! anyway I seem to be just on the edge of a good day then it wears off, but I think he just wants me to try it out and see how it effects me. I did tell him I can see the difference already so maybe when the meds ran out and I go for a refill he will up the dosage.

thanks

[killadoob]

Yea the trouble though hilton is by 2ish it's over and done meaning i need a booster.

2 36mg so basically 72mg cannot get the job done i don't see how one 54mg will.

Also by 2 i feel like i could fall asleep in a split second. They say twelve hours but i have researched it and many many people do not even make the 7 hour mark and need boosters. I would rather take something 3 times a day that will not cost me a huge some of money :D.

Make no mistake the first 2 hours are wonderful, i am focused ready to take on the world then it bottoms out and by 2 well it's done. Feel so sleepy that i have to take another one haha.

Yikes and concerta is very expensive, i understand what you mean about the 54mg but i will need a booster so i may as well try ritalin rather if i am going to take it more than once i guess.

[JanTakDieK@kerLakOpDieTak]

Yea the trouble though hilton is by 2ish it's over and done meaning i need a booster.

2 36mg so basically 72mg cannot get the job done i don't see how one 54mg will.

Also by 2 i feel like i could fall asleep in a split second. They say twelve hours but i have researched it and many many people do not even make the 7 hour mark and need boosters. I would rather take something 3 times a day that will not cost me a huge some of money :D.

Make no mistake the first 2 hours are wonderful, i am focused ready to take on the world then it bottoms out and by 2 well it's done. Feel so sleepy that i have to take another one haha.

Yikes and concerta is very expensive, i understand what you mean about the 54mg but i will need a booster so i may as well try ritalin rather if i am going to take it more than once i guess.

True, Concerta is very expensive... Speaking from experience myself... I had to adjust my dosage of 72mg to 2 x 36mg in the morning and then 1 x 36mg in the afternoon... which helped quite alot, however it messes your sleep habits & patterns...

Now currently I am trying the 1 x 54mg dose in the morning & 1 x 18mg in the afternoon...

Funny thing though, it seems that if you need to adjust the dosage it might be a good indication to see how your stomach digests the stuff you eat... ie.. metabolism etc...

[hilton]

So you say Ritalin is cheaper than Concerta?

[ghoti]

Yup

[hilton]

Ok thanks. Looks like I need to organise another trip to the shrink to try out Ritalin. I think I'd rather take my happy pills twice or three times a day and be able to concentrate the whole time than take them in the morning and then struggle later on in the day.

[Human]

Hmmmm....
I seem to be having bad days and good days on ritalin.
Bad days are bad. I'm cranky, slightly depressed and emotional.

Anyone else experience this?

[hilton]

I was like that before I started taking concerta. It changed my life. Maybe give it a try?

[ghoti]

Hmmmm....
I seem to be having bad days and good days on ritalin.
Bad days are bad. I'm cranky, slightly depressed and emotional.

Anyone else experience this?

Are you taking a lot? If you take a lot or sniff it you will crash.

[Human]

Are you taking a lot? If you take a lot or sniff it you will crash.

no.
taking 1 a day only each and every day.
the bad days are probably about once every 2 weeks.

[Project X]

OWG I just took the test and i got 81, its so weird when they ask symptoms you didnt read about when reading about ADHD. it makes it seem even more real. I really need to seek help, I wonder how i got this far and getting 60 for my Uni marks.

[hilton]

Dude, if you seriously think you are infected then get help ASAP. I can't tell how much of a difference the happy pills have made in my life. Tried weaning myself off them last week and nearly got divorced.

The downside is that Liberty medical aid seems to think that only kids are affected so won't pay for this under chronic. B@rstards.

[Project X]

So what the expensive part getting the pills or the prescription? Will i have to see the doc every time I run out?

[Project X]

lol In the past five minutes i went from researching ADHD to researching businesses to watching clips of real Madrid and wondering if we can beat Barcelona, then back here.

[hilton]

Your GP won't give you an extended prescription as the drugs normally used are actually schedule 7 so it's illegal to do so. You essentially need to be under the guidance of a psychiatrist who will probably want to see you at least once a year maybe twice and that's anything from R800 to R1000 a visit. The initial consultation is between R1500 and R2000.

The happy pills then cost about R520 per month (30 x 54mg Concerta).

Eish..........

[ghoti]

Your GP won't give you an extended prescription as the drugs normally used are actually schedule 7 so it's illegal to do so. You essentially need to be under the guidance of a psychiatrist who will probably want to see you at least once a year maybe twice and that's anything from R800 to R1000 a visit. The initial consultation is between R1500 and R2000.

The happy pills then cost about R520 per month (30 x 54mg Concerta).

Eish..........

Happy pills? :confused: They dont make you happy...

[hilton]

Happy pills? :confused: They dont make you happy...

My wife says I'm almost a pleasure to live with now so they must have some effect.

[Project X]

And now i finally found the real answer to these posts one (http://mybroadband.co.za/vb/showthread.php/222104-Cant-study-during-the-day...-HELP?highlight=) and two (http://mybroadband.co.za/vb/showthread.php/223736-Who-here-knows-how-to-create-a-timetable?highlight=)

[Project X]

Your GP won't give you an extended prescription as the drugs normally used are actually schedule 7 so it's illegal to do so. You essentially need to be under the guidance of a psychiatrist who will probably want to see you at least once a year maybe twice and that's anything from R800 to R1000 a visit. The initial consultation is between R1500 and R2000.

The happy pills then cost about R520 per month (30 x 54mg Concerta).

Eish..........
WHAT???????

[Brieuse]

Your GP won't give you an extended prescription as the drugs normally used are actually schedule 7 so it's illegal to do so. You essentially need to be under the guidance of a psychiatrist who will probably want to see you at least once a year maybe twice and that's anything from R800 to R1000 a visit. The initial consultation is between R1500 and R2000.

The happy pills then cost about R520 per month (30 x 54mg Concerta).

Eish..........

umm, no psychiatrist needed.

No repeat prescriptions allowed.

Technically Ritalin/Concerta are happy pills. That's how Ritalin started out in the industry. It is a mild anti-depressant. It is quite dangerous to not take them regularly once you are taking them, as you'll build a resistance to the drug.

[hilton]

and you're a medical doctor I presume?

[killadoob]

umm, no psychiatrist needed.

No repeat prescriptions allowed.

Technically Ritalin/Concerta are happy pills. That's how Ritalin started out in the industry. It is a mild anti-depressant. It is quite dangerous to not take them regularly once you are taking them, as you'll build a resistance to the drug.

Ummm surely that is why you need to take a break so you don't need more and more?

[undesign]

It is quite dangerous to not take them regularly once you are taking them, as you'll build a resistance to the drug.

Can someone confirm this?

[Project X]

Can someone confirm this?

can HE confirm this? With a valid link maybe?

Anyway I finally got ritalin today and i just took my first dose 1x20G will see how it goes.

[hilton]

Good luck dude, hope it changes your life for the better.

[ghoti]

It is quite dangerous to not take them regularly once you are taking them, as you'll build a resistance to the drug.

No its not. These are not anti-depressants. Talk about giving out BAD advice. You are taking information you heard from another drug and applying it to Ritalin. Thats incredibly dangerous. Please stop it.

[Project X]

Ok guys iv been taking this for about 4 days now and Im note seeing any difference actually. I can feel it in my system (heart pumping faster,feel a bit tired), but i still get distracted and still tend to hyper-focus. How long Does it take to see if its right for me or not?

I was under the impression that it starts working immediately, was i wrong?

[shaunvw]

Ok guys iv been taking this for about 4 days now and Im note seeing any difference actually. I can feel it in my system (heart pumping faster,feel a bit tired), but i still get distracted and still tend to hyper-focus. How long Does it take to see if its right for me or not?

I was under the impression that it starts working immediately, was i wrong?

Most pills you have to take for about 2 weeks before they take affect. It has to build up in your system over time before they become effective.

[Project X]

So it doesnt matter whether it is ritalin, concertra what ever?

[shaunvw]

So it doesnt matter whether it is ritalin, concertra what ever?

That's why I said most pills, with short term pills like pain medication they work right away. With long term pills they work properly when there's a certain limit in your blood stream.

So when doctors prescribe medication they can't give you amount that your body needs right away, because then the build up in the body will take you over the recommended amount.

[Project X]

That's why I said most pills, with short term pills like pain medication they work right away. With long term pills they work properly when there's a certain limit in your blood stream.

So when doctors prescribe medication they can't give you amount that your body needs right away, because then the build up in the body will take you over the recommended amount.
Ok makes sense since my doctor gave me a prescription for 14 days and i have to go back, for further 'testing" . I guess i have to be patient

[hilton]

One thing to remember is that these pills aren't a miracle cure. There are habits that have formed that need to be broken. You can't expect to pop a few pills and then have your life dramatically changed within a few hours.

The pills will help you focus but you still need to put in the effort yourself. Procrastination is one thing that I still battle with because no amount of pills will push me off the couch and into my workshop. However once I'm there I find it easier to focus on the tasks at hand.

I think it's quite possible that once you've learnt new habits or broken old ones, you may not need the pills again but your dilly doc will have to give you that advice.