Zille and Janet Love: An exchange between Anton Fagan and Pierre de Vos

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It's really, really long. So I'm not going to post it in here. The thing is, much as I respect Pierre de Vos, he tied himself in a knot in this exchange. The only justification he has is 'Zille is going after the HRC because they embarrassed her about the Toilet saga.'

While this may be perfectly true, it doesn't do anything to discount the fact - which he states himself - that cadre deployment is a massive problem in SA politics.

Better luck next time, Pierre.
 
It can mean that a loyal and disciplined member of a political party is "deployed" to a position, is expected to follow the instructions of that political party in the exercise of his or her duties, and is willing and determined to follow that instructions or to act first and foremost in the interest of that party or organisation.

It seems as if you and the Premier base your argument on this definition of the term and that you assume that is the only meaning of the term. But it could also mean something completely different. It could mean that a member of a political party or organisation is preferred for a position by that organisation or party because that person broadly shares the vision and ideological commitments of the political party or organisation doing the deployment, but that the person is expected by the party or organisation to fulfil his or her job as best he or she could within the parameters of the Constitution and the relevant legislation.

Or it could mean that a person is deployed by a party or organisation with the expectation that the person will follow the instructions of the party or organisation, but this expectation is not shared by the deployee who nevertheless believes that he or she has a duty first and foremost to the Constitution and the law.

I suspect we agree that the first kind of cadre deployment is undesirable. Our letter was, however, based on a different assumption, namely that the deployment of Love was the second or third kind of cadre deployment. Hence the focus on the personal attributes and characteristics of Love, which we argued would make her a deployee who would NOT follow the dictates of the organisation she belongs to.

I don't think Janet Love is under any delusions that her role at the HRC falls under the first definition of cadre deployment and that she will not be able to exercise any independence from ANC dictates. In the context of the supposed independence of the Public Protector or the National Prosecuting Authority, how could anybody including Prof. de Vos, believe otherwise.
 
I don't think Janet Love is under any delusions that her role at the HRC falls under the first definition of cadre deployment and that she will not be able to exercise any independence from ANC dictates. In the context of the supposed independence of the Public Protector or the National Prosecuting Authority, how could anybody including Prof. de Vos, believe otherwise.

Pierre kept trying to say that because Janet Love was highly competent, her placement at the HRC didn't count as 'cadre deployment'. Or, at least, didn't count as a bad example of cadre deployment.

Then in the next breath he said that cadre deployment was destroying the country.

I wish he'd either make up his mind or explain himself a little better.
 
This:
Zille did not launch her attack against Love and other "ANC deployees" when they were appointed (which would have been fine). In fact the DA supported Love's appointment. Instead she launched her attack when the SAHRC made a finding that was going to severely embarrass Helen Zille herself because she shot her mouth off before she had the facts and the best way to do so was to undermine respect for the independence of one of the Chapter 9 institutions.
 
Pierre kept trying to say that because Janet Love was highly competent, her placement at the HRC didn't count as 'cadre deployment'. Or, at least, didn't count as a bad example of cadre deployment.

Then in the next breath he said that cadre deployment was destroying the country.

I wish he'd either make up his mind or explain himself a little better.

Pierre de Vos's spectacular flip flop - Zille
Helen ZIlle. 13 October 2010

DA leader responds to professor's accusations of ‘hypocrisy' on the SAHRC
http://www.politicsweb.co.za/politi...8?oid=204358&sn=Marketingweb+detail&pid=90389

In his blog Pierre de Vos accuses me of "hypocrisy" for raising the alarm at the ANC's politicisation of the Human Rights Commission through cadre deployment (see here).

This is what one might call "leading with your chin." It is pertinent to ask: who is the real hypocrite here? Let me remind readers of a blog published by Pierre de Vos in August last year entitled 'RIP Human Rights Commission?'

In it, de Vos said, and I quote:

"...there are worrying signs that the ANC majority in Parliament will deal a fatal blow to the Human Rights Commission by "deploying" mediocre ANC party-hacks with little human rights experience to that important body..."

Later on in the blog he writes:

"...the fact that a large number of failed ANC politicians appear on that party's list for appointment to the Commission, suggests that the Commission is in danger of becoming no more than a dumping ground for party hacks. This has the potential to fatally undermine the independence and impartiality of the Commission."

I couldn't have put it better myself.

The difference is that over a year has passed since de Vos penned those words. The "failed ANC politicians" on the nomination list are now Human Rights Commissioners and former ANC MP Lawrence Mushwana is the Chairperson.

This is the same Lawrence Mushwana who de Vos once described as "a useless and sycophantic Public Protector". In fact, de Vos went even further than this. He wrote:

"Mushwana became notorious for failing to properly investigate complaints against powerful ANC politicians, so one can only despair that he will now be appointed to the Human Rights Commission."

Hear, hear, Pierre! Except please explain why you have now swung to the opposite extreme?

One of the new Commissioners is ANC stalwart Janet Love. She resigned from her position on the ANC's NEC because, as Gwede Mantashe announced recently, she (along with Bheki Cele) had been "deployed" to "strategic state departments and institutions."

That is a damning admission. The ANC has repeatedly explained that cadres are "deployed" to do its bidding and promote its interests ahead of all else. The alarm bells are ringing louder than ever, and yet de Vos has changed his tune.

It is de Vos who thinks and acts like the Queen in an absolute monarchy - he thinks there is one rule for him and another for everybody else.

When de Vos says that the Human Rights Commission is a "dumping ground for party hacks", he does so as a responsible, constitutional "expert". When I do the same (with even stronger evidence at my disposal) my critique is "scurrilous and unfounded," bordering on defamatory!

How do you explain that?

Let me remind the Professor that we live in a constitutional democracy where all are equal before the law. I will continue to warn against the deployment of ANC cadres to Chapter Nine institutions. Unlike Pierre de Vos (who is, actually, a Professor of Constitutional Law) I will do so consistently and without fear or favour.
 
I will continue to warn against the deployment of ANC cadres to Chapter Nine institutions. Unlike Pierre de Vos (who is, actually, a Professor of Constitutional Law) I will do so consistently and without fear or favour.

Zing!
 
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