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The Moses Mahbida Stadium will not be the Sharks’ new home.

This was confirmed by CEO Brian van Zyl in a press release on Friday. He said that a number of issues were taken into account when making this decision, including:

1. The long lease on the entire property [Kings Park] which only terminates in 2056.

2. The Sharks (Pty) Ltd is debt free and has financed the cost of the stadium, which is currently insured for R500 million.

3. Thus far, the [Durban] Municipality has not been able to provide any incentive or been able to demonstrate that The Sharks (Pty) Ltd will not be worse off, should it relocate to the new stadium.

4. The completion of a five-year naming rights agreement for the stadium [Kings Park], effective 1 January 2011, is at an advanced stage.


Let Sutcliffe and His Cronies sort out Moses Mabhida.They were all looking for Glory by Planning and Approving the New Stadium,and did not use any Common Sense in trying to Work out a simple solution to Sharing the Old or New Stadium.It was more Important to get Political Bonus Points,and Logie Naidoo in some Photos.

Now who is going to pick up the Remnants of a Totally Avoidable Mess.
We could have had one of the Best Rugby/Soccer stadiums in The World-With both Sports contributing to the Affordability of A World Class Venue.

Pathetic-Shame on You Politicians and Parasites.
 
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Cut & paste problem?

Leaving the politics out of it, it never made any financial sense for the Sharks to move away from Kings Park.
 
This is really piss easy to sort out.

1. Both parties agree on the "previous earmings" from a typical provincial game at the old stadium, based on past actual earnings.
2. New stadium management guarantee's these earnings in a contract, where the game is played in the new stadium.
3. Game is played at the new stadium.
4. New stadium management keeps the extra earnings gained, and pays the "previous earnings" + 5% of total take to the old stadium.

Simple really, there is no need to risk bankrupting anybody, if the new stadium can pull the numbers, then let them do it.
i.e. Win Win.
 
MickeyD said:
... and what of the old stadium?

Does it become a practice ground?
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Yup.
Also, the smaller games are still played there, ESPECIALLY the under 19's and other competitions.

The aim is that, after 4 years or so, if the new stadium can keep pulling the numbers then an actual bona-fida case with facts and figures can be made to justify the move.
 
The biggest problem with the new stadia are the numbers of suites... (from what I can see)

Rugby stadia have a LARGE number of suites, whereas these soccer venues don't....
 
davemc said:
This is really piss easy to sort out.

1. Both parties agree on the "previous earmings" from a typical provincial game at the old stadium, based on past actual earnings.
2. New stadium management guarantee's these earnings in a contract, where the game is played in the new stadium.
3. Game is played at the new stadium.
4. New stadium management keeps the extra earnings gained, and pays the "previous earnings" + 5% of total take to the old stadium.

Simple really, there is no need to risk bankrupting anybody, if the new stadium can pull the numbers, then let them do it.
i.e. Win Win.
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The issue is corporate boxes, the new stadium simply does not have enough.
 
But they won't pull in the numbers, Kings Park will ...... Add to that the suites situation and the outlook gets worse.
 
davemc said:
This is really piss easy to sort out.

1. Both parties agree on the "previous earmings" from a typical provincial game at the old stadium, based on past actual earnings.
2. New stadium management guarantee's these earnings in a contract, where the game is played in the new stadium.
3. Game is played at the new stadium.
4. New stadium management keeps the extra earnings gained, and pays the "previous earnings" + 5% of total take to the old stadium.

Simple really, there is no need to risk bankrupting anybody, if the new stadium can pull the numbers, then let them do it.
i.e. Win Win.
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Follow the money and the poor, sodding taxpayer still has to pay.
 
Kaizer Chiefs plan to use Peter Mokaba Stadium in Polokwane and other World Cup stadiums for their home games until the end of the season.

Polokwane executive mayor Freddy Greaver let it slip in a television interview after Amakhosi's Telkom Knockout Cup semi-final against Santos at the weekend that the municipality was in discussions with the club to bring some of their matches to the 45 000-seater venue.

Chiefs are on record as stating their intention of moving from their current home ground of Rand Stadium and possibly even out of Johannesburg because of dwindling support in their games this season.

Chiefs football manager Bobby Motaung revealed to KickOff.com at the weekend that they will take their League game against Bidvest Wits on December 18 and their last fixture of the season against Ajax Cape Town on May 7 to Polokwane, while upcoming matches against Mamelodi Sundowns (January 8) and Orlando Pirates (February 25) will be at Soccer City.

Their League game against Vasco da Gama this Saturday night will also be played at Soccer City.

Motaung added that nothing had been confirmed regarding their other home matches, AmaZulu (Jan 19), Maritzburg United (Jan 29), Moroka Swallows (Feb 5), SuperSport United (Feb 16), Free State Stars (Mar 5) and Mpumalanga Black Aces (April 16).

He added that the club are also likely to play their Nedbank Cup home games away from Gauteng when the competition kicks off next year.

Motaung said that while the cost of stadium hire for the World Cup stadiums has frightened many teams away from using them, this would not hinder on their aspirations and are currently in talks of with various municipalities about venue usage.

"We are working with the various municipalities, and are in discussions with them about our plans for the season," he added.
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Other big clubs like Pirates and Sundowns should follow suit. With millions of soccer lovers across the country, we should be able to tell rugby to stay exactly where they are. Let these 3 teams and Bafana use the WC stadiums as often as possible...Peter Mokaba Stadium was packed on Saturday. However had the same game been played in JHB it would have been empty stands all round. People in JHB are saturated with live soccer while the people in places like Polokwane, Nelspruit, PE would jump at the chance to see the big teams and the national team.
 
JungleBoy said:
Other big clubs like Pirates and Sundowns should follow suit. With millions of soccer lovers across the country, we should be able to tell rugby to stay exactly where they are. Let these 3 teams and Bafana use the WC stadiums as often as possible...Peter Mokaba Stadium was packed on Saturday. However had the same game been played in JHB it would have been empty stands all round. People in JHB are saturated with live soccer while the people in places like Polokwane, Nelspruit, PE would jump at the chance to see the big teams and the national team.
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This is one of the reasons why I would love a licence system, instead of pure promotion and relegation. The PSL is still very Gauteng-centric, there are 4 Joburg teams and 2 Pretoria teams, that's a third of the league in virtually one place. Last year was worse with Cosmos as a 5th Joburg team.

If teams were in Polokwane and PE, I am quite sure that they would beat the poor attendance's seen by clubs like Cosmos last year, and Vasco will get this year.

Black Aces have also moved 5 games to the Mbombela Stadium this season. I'm all for PSL teams playing it cities without teams, but I think that they should be prevented from playing it cities with teams. Thus Chiefs should not be allowed to play in Pretoria, Durban or Cape Town.
 
Imo rugby as a spectacle would suffer at Moses Mabida. On TV it would be great, but watching sport at that stadium is not so good. Once you get over the arch, the sails and the size, theres a feeling of disconnect with the happenings on the field. The seats are too far from the action and there's way too much empty space around the field.
 
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