View Full Version : Color Printer Recommendations - Epson or Canon
mitchmagi
12-10-2005, 11:40 AM
Hi all ...
I'm looking ay purchasing a new color inkjet printer and am currently tossing up between the Canon Pixma Range ( ip3000 / iP4200 ) or the Epson Stylus R300 ?
Any comments ? I need the ability to print on CDs ...
Thanks
Ghatto
12-10-2005, 11:59 AM
Canon of course. Been using the IP3000 for about 18 months without any hassles. Lots of photo printing as well as CD printing. No problems. Excellent quality and value for money.
i have a IP4000 - great printer with no problems and xcelt quality and cost p page!!!
I were there a few weeks ago. My conclusion were that the Canon would be cheaper to run and have good quality, have 5 inks (two black)
Go for the latest IP4200 instead. It cost me R1100 at incredible (as exchange from crap microcomm ADSL modem) sure it is cheaper somewhere else
The ink cartridges of the IP3000 is cheaper as the new cartidges have a chip to improve quality and prevent exchange of catridges to different types but You can still use cheaper cartriges as a "hack"
Cannon
Autoduplexing, multiple input options, and acceptable photo and text quality as well as good economy.
What made me decide Read some of the reviews
http://reviews.cnet.com/Canon_Pixma_iP4200/4507-3166_7-31457715.html?tag=coco
http://reviews.cnet.com/Epson_Stylus_Photo_R300/4505-3162_7-30590994.html
Azrael
12-10-2005, 12:38 PM
Just got a IP4200 yesterday - already printer a bunch of dvd covers with it - works like a charm! I was quite impressed with the quality, photo prints are excellent.
mitchmagi
12-10-2005, 12:48 PM
Brilliant ! Thanks everyone for the help ...
rburley
12-10-2005, 12:49 PM
I got epson, not bad really but if i had the choice i would move over to canon
skydog
12-10-2005, 12:50 PM
would tend to agree with everyone - go Canon
All the Epson Stylus I have come across suck...
personal option
Toxin
12-10-2005, 12:55 PM
Canon 4 t3h \/\/1N!!!!
I've printer through at least 150 DVDs and I've still got ink left. :)
Luke7777
12-10-2005, 12:56 PM
comments on the IP4000R ? The wifi connectivity might sort out a few of my probs @ home
Canon 4 t3h \/\/1N!!!!
I've printer through at least 150 DVDs and I've still got ink left. :)
Is that on the original reduced level cartridges? What media do You use for printing. Stick on or direct ?
stoke
12-10-2005, 01:05 PM
Don't touch Epson.
/sop story
They've still got a printer of mine that they could not fix.
Picture it: 7500 rands worth of printer - 2 days old - wam - printer kills itself by slamming it's head drive into it's right hand side at such high speed the printer shifts 1/2 metres on the desk, falls off the desk - jams and strips the motor's thread, burns out the motor's brushes and spews ink like crazy.
I explain to Epson that I did not drop it, and that it did that to itself. They laugh. I purchase another one, on the condition that if it does it they fix the first and refund me the other. Start processing the same job in front of them, WAMMO - same thing. ROFL ROFL ROFL. Looks of shock and surprise.
Left printer with them to fix. After around 40 calls and 4 months, told them to stick the printer up ... and bought a Cannon. Not looking back.
/end sop story
CodeMaster
12-10-2005, 01:40 PM
I have to go with the Epson R300. Although I have not compared the two printer, I have only had great results from the R300, and no problems yet.
I have to go with the Epson R300. Although I have not compared the two printer, I have only had great results from the R300, and no problems yet.
Hi Codemaster, I just bought the Cannon IP4200, Now I am broke and have kids to feed, Can You borrow me some money please!
By the way I like Your signature (did not prompt me to beg though HeHe LOL
eye_suc
12-10-2005, 01:49 PM
so its
Canon 8 : Epson 1
?
Ghatto
12-10-2005, 01:51 PM
Canon Rule!:p
Toxin
12-10-2005, 02:42 PM
Is that on the original reduced level cartridges? What media do You use for printing. Stick on or direct ?
It's the original cartridges, but I don't know if it's the reduced ones. How do you tell? I can tell you that if you only printed on CDs\DVDs, you could probably do between 200 and 250.
Hmmm, maybe I should actually count how many I've done. I'll let you know tomorrow. ;)
As for media:
/sales pitch
I only use 16x Verbatim with the printable surface for direct printing. Spindle pack of 50.
/end sales pitch :)
rob_za
12-10-2005, 03:11 PM
Let me add one more for the Epson. Have had mine for a while now and not a single problem.
CD printing is easy and it prints directly onto CDs with printable surfaces.
nrg_wp
12-10-2005, 04:38 PM
Canon IP4000... IM LOVING IT!
just make sure u get a seperate multi-catridge printer :)
Prints awesome photo's... has auto sheet feeder and cartridge feeder. and prints onto printable...
I also have an old epson 600... 6 years old. No problems ;)
rburley
12-10-2005, 05:30 PM
Have you seen the IP4200?
Not bad price either at R1080
from http://buycomputers.co.za/default.asp?catname=specials&myselect=all
This advanced printer offers high performance for the price. It brings superior photo lab quality, fast print speeds, DVD/CD printing, 2 paper trays and a Single Ink system within everyone's reach.
Features:
Photo quality: max. 9600 x 2400dpi
ChromaLife100 system for long lasting photos
PictBridge direct photo printing
leonb
12-10-2005, 06:22 PM
I also bought the IP4200 last week. Excellent printer. Photo quality is very good, but make sure you use Canon photo paper (plus or pro). I've tried other paper brands and quality was bad.
Have anyone tried different printable cd brands and compared the print quality? Which brand proved to be the best?
Toxin,
I printed on Verbatim 8X dvd-r discs the other day, but the colours seemed to be a bit dull. Do you know if there is a difference between the print surface of the 16X and 8X discs.
....
On Verbatim printable cd-r discs it seems one get a "paper" type surface and a "sand/crystal" type surface. (I think one is the 48X and the other the 52X printable discs). Anyone compared this yet?
nGAGEd55
12-10-2005, 06:27 PM
Canon is by for the best!!!!!
and they hav the highest res!
Canon IP4000....................
................just make sure u get a seperate multi-catridge printer :)
.....................;)
Explain please
rburley
12-10-2005, 06:59 PM
and they hav the highest res!
yep the IP4200 has 9600 x 2400dpi
Ekhaatvensters
12-10-2005, 07:01 PM
Just go for the canon already! Its better and a really good printer, if you need the wireless theres nothing wrong with the IP4000R. But I find the dpi doesnt come in that handy anyway for most people as it's only used to its full potential on highest settings and then everything takes forever to print and wastes more ink so most people wouldnt utilise it very often.
so its
Canon 8 : Epson 1
?
Nothing wrong with the Epson. Would have bought it, but on advise looked at the IP4000 (Now IP4200) and found the economics is better. Thus I bought one.
I have HP 850C, Epson c84 beauty, Samsung CLP-500 laser +others with issues (not worth repairing)
Both R300 and Ip4000 have advantage of availability of Mass Ink supply's
But Ip4200 is still more economical
see http://www.continuousink.com/ There is a local eqivalent somewhere on this forum
Azrael
12-10-2005, 08:50 PM
I printed on Verbatim 8X dvd-r discs the other day, but the colours seemed to be a bit dull. Do you know if there is a difference between the print surface of the 16X and 8X discs.
I've also noticed this while printing on my verbatim 8x dvd-r's (with IP4200)...anybody know of discs that has a better surface for better quality prints?
wajordaan
12-10-2005, 09:13 PM
Canon
nGAGEd55
12-10-2005, 11:08 PM
But I find the dpi doesnt come in that handy anyway for most people as it's only used to its full potential on highest settings and then everything takes forever to print and wastes more ink so most people wouldnt utilise it very often.
But its nice to have when u want to print high quality photos and stuff like that,
Toxin
13-10-2005, 07:16 AM
Toxin,
I printed on Verbatim 8X dvd-r discs the other day, but the colours seemed to be a bit dull. Do you know if there is a difference between the print surface of the 16X and 8X discs.
I don't see any difference in paper quality between the two speeds. I do get picture dullness sometimes, but that's mainly due to the picture that I'm printing. Have a look at the program you're using. If it's the same as mine the screen that pops up when you click on print has "Dark" and "Light" options. I use "Dark" when printing. If that isn't it try playing around with the contrast, brightness and colour options. I normally increase the contrast a small bit and drop the brightness.
DragonLogos
16-10-2005, 11:38 PM
One thing I like about the Epson is on the Verbatim printable DVDs you can print the full printable surface, looks very nice to have picture all over the place
Other than anything else it is worth remembering that the Epson printers should last longer
rburley
17-10-2005, 01:16 PM
Other than anything else it is worth remembering that the Epson printers should last longer
I got my epson sept 11 2001, i still remember the date;) . It hasnt givin a moments trouble yet
Just bought one and this thing is amazing , double sided printing , cd/dvd printing. The only gripe was the time it took to set up. Also it is very quiet.
Still have my trusty old epson C43 running on generic cartridges since day one, only downside could'nt print on cd/dvd (maybe if it was modified) :)
photonman
19-10-2005, 03:29 PM
ya that is mooi printer..friend of mine has it.
prints flippin awesome pictures and the cd printing looks "klass"
saa044
09-03-2006, 12:06 PM
well guys, i prefer my Epson. Reason being is i imported spongeless cartridgess thats always refillable. From then on my prints were cheap and qualety even better than with origenal Epson carts. I am currently thinking of maiby making a market here in SA, as no one has them yet or sells them here in SA. What do you guys think? The full package would include 6 spongeless carts, 6 chips and a chip resetter at about R915. Will this work or should i just keep with mine and forget about it? :)
FxpForce
09-03-2006, 03:41 PM
Have to go with Canon, Epson gee net Kop seer!!!
well guys, i prefer my Epson. Reason being is i imported spongeless cartridgess thats always refillable. From then on my prints were cheap and qualety even better than with origenal Epson carts. I am currently thinking of maiby making a market here in SA, as no one has them yet or sells them here in SA. What do you guys think? The full package would include 6 spongeless carts, 6 chips and a chip resetter at about R915. Will this work or should i just keep with mine and forget about it? :)
The guys are already doing the generic and refill kits for these.
Gunny
09-03-2006, 06:20 PM
Another vote for Canon i got the IP3000 and upgrading to IP4200 i found the Canons more efficient on ink to.
saa044
14-03-2006, 12:26 PM
The guys are already doing the generic and refill kits for these.
Well, actually were not talking about the same thing. The ones im talking about is here. http://www.bidorbuy.co.za/jsp/item/Item.jsp?Trade_TradeId=1995820 I think im currently the only person that knows about this or has it. Look at link for more info.