Apple now starting to work on my nerves as well ...

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The New York Times reports that Apple has begun rejecting App Store submissions for applications that offer users the ability to purchase content from outside the company's in-app purchasing mechanism. One of the major applications reportedly rejected under this policy change is Sony's Reader application that would have allowed iOS device users to view eBook content downloaded from its Reader Store.
The company has told some applications developers, including Sony, that they can no longer sell content, like e-books, within their apps, or let customers have access to purchases they have made outside the App Store.

Apple rejected Sony's iPhone application, which would have let people buy and read e-books bought from the Sony Reader Store.

Apple told Sony that from now on, all in-app purchases would have to go through Apple, said Steve Haber, president of Sony's digital reading division.

The move calls into question the fate of such popular eBook applications such as Kindle and Barnes & Noble NOOK for iOS devices. Those applications have so far skirted Apple's rules regarding in-app purchasing by directing users to Safari for purchasing content through a web-based interface, then using the native iOS applications for browsing and viewing the purchased content. But Apple's recent change of heart appears to now ban even that approach.
The change may signal a shift for Apple. The company has made more money selling hardware than music, e-books or apps. If people could have access to more content from more sources on their iPhones and iPads, the thinking went, then they would buy more devices.

Content providers will be hard pressed to alter their business models to comply with Apple's demands, as they would need to offer their content through in-app purchasing mechanisms from which Apple takes a 30% cut of sales. That slice of revenue would mean that content providers would have to either accept significantly less revenue while selling at the same prices they currently do, or substantially raising prices to compensate for Apple's cut of sales.

Apple has been rumored to be building into iOS support for recurring subscription billing via users' iTunes Store accounts. The feature is expected to play a key role in deployment of News Corp.'s tablet-focused news publication, The Daily, set for introduction later this week.

Deployment of such a feature, as well as others potentially enhancing content delivery to iOS devices, could put Apple in a position where it feels that it offers sufficient options for publishers to get their content onto iOS devices while Apple controls the delivery mechanisms. Those options are apparently giving Apple the ability to flex its muscles to shut down non-Apple methods of distributing content to iOS devices, thus ensuring that Apple controls and receives revenue from all sales.
 
You wanted a walled garden. Apple is just turning this:
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into this:
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They're just... you know... innovating, or something.
 
Apple works on my nerves FAR less than when I was a Windows user. I used to get #@#$%^%$# off every 10 minutes when I was working with windows. Shutdowns, hanging, BSOD, constant annoying updates, virus threats, programs constantly runniing in backgrouns slowing machine down to a crawl, painfully slow boot-ups

No sir, I would rather put up with Apple's slightly censored approach, but having a computer that works......fast....everytime
 
Apple works on my nerves FAR less than when I was a Windows user. I used to get #@#$%^%$# off every 10 minutes when I was working with windows. Shutdowns, hanging, BSOD, constant annoying updates, virus threats, programs constantly runniing in backgrouns slowing machine down to a crawl, painfully slow boot-ups

No sir, I would rather put up with Apple's slightly censored approach, but having a computer that works......fast....everytime

Eish! People like you will deserve to be charged in furture to use their computers based on usage/time :D

Always amazes me how some people will just feed the crap they are fed.
 
Surfs-up, to date I've been a fan of Apple, and have defended them here many times, but I'm honestly getting irritated with the greed that slowly - but very surely - locks all the windows and doors of the mansion. It's like someone sneaking with a bunch of keys through the place at night when everybody is fast asleep. If they limit/block Kindle I'm out for sure.
 
Eish! People like you will deserve to be charged in furture to use their computers based on usage/time :D

Always amazes me how some people will just feed the crap they are fed.

No, Ponder, I am not feeding off crap. I had been with Microsoft and Windows for 21 years - 1984 - 2005, and have been using Apple Mac and OSX for 5 years 2005 till today. So I am not a noob, I am not listening to or feeding off someone else's crap - my feelings are related entirely by personal experience.

Microsoft and Windows are going to have to pull off some kind of a miracle if they ever hope to get any of my support again.

My Mac's and OSX have not let me down in 5 years of using them. Windows used to let me down every 10 minutes.
 
Surfs-up, with "PC's" and laptops it's different. The problem area - for now - is iPhone/iPad/iTouch/iPod. Apple wants to make 30% on all content used on "their" devices (not mine, "theirs"). This model is becoming more and more one of me - the iPhone "owner" - becoming me - the iPhone OS license holder with very limited rights. My device becomes a rigidly controlled extension of Apple. One signs a 24 month contract for the iPhone with Vodacom/MTN AND Apple the way it's going now.
 
Apple works on my nerves FAR less than when I was a Windows user. I used to get #@#$%^%$# off every 10 minutes when I was working with windows. Shutdowns, hanging, BSOD, constant annoying updates, virus threats, programs constantly runniing in backgrouns slowing machine down to a crawl, painfully slow boot-ups

No sir, I would rather put up with Apple's slightly censored approach, but having a computer that works......fast....everytime

Wait till you try Linux ;)
 
No, Ponder, I am not feeding off crap. I had been with Microsoft and Windows for 21 years - 1984 - 2005, and have been using Apple Mac and OSX for 5 years 2005 till today. So I am not a noob, I am not listening to or feeding off someone else's crap - my feelings are related entirely by personal experience.

Microsoft and Windows are going to have to pull off some kind of a miracle if they ever hope to get any of my support again.

My Mac's and OSX have not let me down in 5 years of using them. Windows used to let me down every 10 minutes.

I'm not referring to technical issues. I'm referring to your rights (or lack thereof) as a user or developer where Apple continuously tightens the noose . BeVonk! summed it up pretty well below, this is the crap I'm talking about.


Surfs-up, with "PC's" and laptops it's different. The problem area - for now - is iPhone/iPad/iTouch/iPod. Apple wants to make 30% on all content used on "their" devices (not mine, "theirs"). This model is becoming more and more one of me - the iPhone "owner" - becoming me - the iPhone OS license holder with very limited rights. My device becomes a rigidly controlled extension of Apple. One signs a 24 month contract for the iPhone with Vodacom/MTN AND Apple the way it's going now.

In this regard Apple makes MS look like saints.
 
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I'm surprised by this move - why did Apple allow the Kindle app to buy from Amazon? It's just inconsistency with Apple.
 
Amazon won't want to lose the business they get from iPhone/iPad Kindle users so the position Apple is taking in will push prices of Kindle books up for all Kindle users (to give Apple the 30% it demands). Other non-Apple Kindle users will be forced to cross-subsidise Apple users.
 
Surfs-up, with "PC's" and laptops it's different. The problem area - for now - is iPhone/iPad/iTouch/iPod. Apple wants to make 30% on all content used on "their" devices (not mine, "theirs"). This model is becoming more and more one of me - the iPhone "owner" - becoming me - the iPhone OS license holder with very limited rights. My device becomes a rigidly controlled extension of Apple. One signs a 24 month contract for the iPhone with Vodacom/MTN AND Apple the way it's going now.

Well, so you say the problem is not with Mac and OSX, but with iOS and iOS devices ? okay, but looking at it objectively.....Apple is letting people/companies market their apps on Apple's highly successful iTunes store - the iTunes store has hundreds of millions of people looking for stuff in their store.

Do you honestly expect the apps to be hosted on their iTunes store for free ? in other words free advertising ? Would Woolworths make a zero markup on produce that is supplied to them by suppliers ? Farmer Jones wants R 20.00 for a tray of eggs sold at Woolworths....must Woolworths now sell the eggs at R 20.00 and pay farmer Jones R 20.00 ? Farmer Jones is happy because he is getting the foot traffic at popular Woolworth's, and for that Woolworth's marks up the goods by 40 % - if he tries to sell his product directly to the consumer, then the farmer will score a slightly better price and so will the consumer, but then he won't have the size market and exposure that Woolworth's can generate for him.

Judging by the amount of app dev's out there, and the amount that have become multi-millionaires through selling their apps on the iTunes store - I think this is a very successful model, that other companies are now trying to replicate.

So...30 % of the app price goes to Apple - so what ? They have hosted the app, marketed it and allowed for easy downloading from their site. So I buy an app for $ 1.99, and I know that 60cents goes to Apple....for hosting the app - they deserve it, that's capitalism - and clearly with over one billion downloads it is genius of them, and the consumers are happy to pay the small percentage, to get their app of choice
 
You know, I just read this comment on Hacker news: it seems like Apple doesn't allow Amazon to sell directly to the Kindle app on the iPad, it pushes you to Safari.

In fact, the article says "Apple told Sony that from now on, all in-app purchases would have to go through Apple, said Steve Haber, president of Sony’s digital reading division."
This isn't a change. In-app purchases have always had to go through Apple.

I bet Sony tried to implement their own in-app purchase process instead of bumping the user out to Safari. Apple rejected the app for breaking a well-known rule, and now Sony is whining about it for publicity.
 
Sony is also a wanna be monopoly that only distributes content it profits from, via proprietary channels and locked down harware etc. Its just cool to hate apple these days.
Do you see IBooks on the sony reader? Or any other 3rd party software?
 
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Surfs-up, I have no problem with Apple charging 30% for the sale of apps. I have a problem when Apple is trying to control the sale of Kindle books because the Kindle app is running on their OS. Getting 30% from apps is not the same as getting 30% from content that runs within the apps. There is a difference, but Apple is now trying to get control over everything. The Kindle books I read through the Kindle app on my iPhone should have zero to do with Apple.
 
Surfs-up, I have no problem with Apple charging 30% for the sale of apps. I have a problem when Apple is trying to control the sale of Kindle books because the Kindle app is running on their OS. Getting 30% from apps is not the same as getting 30% from content that runs within the apps. There is a difference, but Apple is now trying to get control over everything. The Kindle books I read through the Kindle app on my iPhone should have zero to do with Apple.

Oh okay, I see your point. I am not a kindle user, and so I wasn't aware, as it wouldn't have affected me anyway - apologies BeVonk, as you can see I clearly didn't red the entire OP, but I have now. I thought you were just taking a general swipe at Apple.
 
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You know, I just read this comment on Hacker news: it seems like Apple doesn't allow Amazon to sell directly to the Kindle app on the iPad, it pushes you to Safari.

In fact, the article says "Apple told Sony that from now on, all in-app purchases would have to go through Apple, said Steve Haber, president of Sony’s digital reading division."
This isn't a change. In-app purchases have always had to go through Apple.

I bet Sony tried to implement their own in-app purchase process instead of bumping the user out to Safari. Apple rejected the app for breaking a well-known rule, and now Sony is whining about it for publicity.

The OP mentions this: It says:
Those applications have so far skirted Apple's rules regarding in-app purchasing by directing users to Safari for purchasing content through a web-based interface, then using the native iOS applications for browsing and viewing the purchased content. But Apple's recent change of heart appears to now ban even that approach.
 
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