Unshaped on 1 Nov ?

bin3

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I have a 4GB Unshaped ADSL account going via SAOL.

Since I had this account I had a constant 317ms ping to google,
306 to World of Warcraft.

Since this morning @ 11 every one of my graphs have jumped with 150ms, and have an average packet loss of 15% as well.

Anybody else experiencing this ? I am trying to figure out if this is a problem with my ISP or with Telkom. I specifically pay a lot of money to get a very low ping, having a 500ms ping, I could just as well go back to Sentech.
 
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bin3, I just signed up for an Axxess unshaped account and have been getting a latency of 500-600ms. This is not what I was expecting :(. I'm also specifically paying more to get decent pings. This is my tracert to the WoW servers:

Tracing route to us.logon.worldofwarcraft.com [12.129.232.115]

over a maximum of 30 hops:



1 35 ms 30 ms 31 ms nngy-165-28-01.telkomadsl.co.za [165.165.28.1]

2 31 ms 31 ms 31 ms nngy-ip-er-1-fe-9-0-1-1.telkom-ipnet.co.za [196.43.10.90]

3 281 ms 281 ms 281 ms ash-ip-dir-equinix-pos-5-1.telkom-ipnet.co.za [196.43.9.106]

4 374 ms 390 ms 390 ms so-3-0-1.ar1.DCA3.gblx.net [208.49.224.161]

5 374 ms 374 ms 374 ms 208.50.13.254

6 453 ms 437 ms 437 ms tbr1-p014001.wswdc.ip.att.net [12.123.9.82]

7 437 ms 453 ms 453 ms tbr1-cl4.sl9mo.ip.att.net [12.122.10.30]

8 437 ms 437 ms 437 ms tbr2-cl2.sffca.ip.att.net [12.122.10.42]

9 437 ms 437 ms 437 ms gar3-p370.sffca.ip.att.net [12.123.13.161]

10 453 ms 453 ms 453 ms mdf1-gsr12-2-pos-7-0.lax1.attens.net [12.122.255.254]

11 453 ms 453 ms 453 ms mdf1-bi8k-2-eth-1-1.lax1.attens.net [12.129.192.242]

12 * * * Request timed out.

13 * * * Request timed out.

14 * * * Request timed out.

15 * * * Request timed out.

16 * * * Request timed out.

17 * * * Request timed out.

18 * * * Request timed out.

19 * * * Request timed out.

20 * * * Request timed out.

21 * * * Request timed out.

22 * * * Request timed out.

23 * * * Request timed out.

24 * * * Request timed out.

25 * * * Request timed out.

26 * * * Request timed out.

27 * * * Request timed out.

28 * * * Request timed out.

29 * * * Request timed out.

30 * * * Request timed out.



Trace complete.
 
Welcome to the now improved TELKOM "Rip you off anyway we can" fraudsters club
 
This is not acceptable: My ping to WoW {Europe} was < 400ms for the last 4 months. Something is broken and I want to know what.

Here is my traceroute to the US servers ...

Tracing route to us.logon.worldofwarcraft.com [12.129.232.110]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 <10 ms <10 ms <10 ms 192.168.40.254
2 10 ms 10 ms 10 ms tbnb-165-192-01.telkomadsl.co.za [165.165.192.1]

3 11 ms 10 ms 10 ms tbnb-ip-er-1-fe-9-0-1-1.telkom-ipnet.co.za [196.
43.23.37]
4 461 ms 453 ms 444 ms ash-ip-dir-equinix-pos-5-1.telkom-ipnet.co.za [1
96.43.9.106]
5 550 ms 552 ms * so-3-0-1.ar1.DCA3.gblx.net [208.49.224.161]
6 535 ms 553 ms 543 ms 208.50.13.254
7 593 ms 598 ms 604 ms tbr1-p014001.wswdc.ip.att.net [12.123.9.82]
8 598 ms 598 ms 593 ms tbr1-cl4.sl9mo.ip.att.net [12.122.10.30]
9 606 ms 591 ms 595 ms tbr2-cl2.sffca.ip.att.net [12.122.10.42]
10 597 ms 594 ms 594 ms gar3-p370.sffca.ip.att.net [12.123.13.161]
11 606 ms 607 ms 601 ms mdf1-gsr12-2-pos-7-0.lax1.attens.net [12.122.255
.254]
12 524 ms 511 ms 516 ms mdf1-bi8k-1-eth-4-2.lax1.attens.net [12.129.192.
122]
13 * * * Request timed out.
14 * * * Request timed out.
15 ^C


To me it looks like Telscum's international line is screwed AGAIN. {See hop 4}

My current trace to the EU Servers is ...

Tracing route to us.logon.worldofwarcraft.com [12.129.232.110]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 <10 ms <10 ms <10 ms 192.168.40.254
2 10 ms 10 ms 10 ms tbnb-165-192-01.telkomadsl.co.za [165.165.192.1]

3 11 ms 10 ms 10 ms tbnb-ip-er-1-fe-9-0-1-1.telkom-ipnet.co.za [196.
43.23.37]
4 461 ms 453 ms 444 ms ash-ip-dir-equinix-pos-5-1.telkom-ipnet.co.za [1
96.43.9.106]
5 550 ms 552 ms * so-3-0-1.ar1.DCA3.gblx.net [208.49.224.161]
6 535 ms 553 ms 543 ms 208.50.13.254
7 593 ms 598 ms 604 ms tbr1-p014001.wswdc.ip.att.net [12.123.9.82]
8 598 ms 598 ms 593 ms tbr1-cl4.sl9mo.ip.att.net [12.122.10.30]
9 606 ms 591 ms 595 ms tbr2-cl2.sffca.ip.att.net [12.122.10.42]
10 597 ms 594 ms 594 ms gar3-p370.sffca.ip.att.net [12.123.13.161]
11 606 ms 607 ms 601 ms mdf1-gsr12-2-pos-7-0.lax1.attens.net [12.122.255
.254]
12 524 ms 511 ms 516 ms mdf1-bi8k-1-eth-4-2.lax1.attens.net [12.129.192.
122]
13 * * * Request timed out.
14 * * * Request timed out.
15 ^C

Where it should be something like

Tracing route to eu.logon.worldofwarcraft.com [80.239.178.113]

over a maximum of 30 hops:



1 * * * Request timed out.

2 10 ms 9 ms 9 ms tbnb-165-8-01.telkomadsl.co.za [165.165.8.1]

3 10 ms 11 ms 10 ms tbnb-ip-er-1-fe-9-0-0-1.telkom-ipnet.co.za [196.43.10.121]

4 266 ms 265 ms 266 ms lon-ip-dir-telecity-pos-5-0.telkom-ipnet.co.za [196.43.9.50]

5 266 ms 265 ms 266 ms 213.155.141.153

6 254 ms 255 ms 255 ms ldn-b1-geth4-0.telia.net [213.248.100.217]

7 254 ms 255 ms 254 ms ldn-bb2-pos0-2-0.telia.net [213.248.64.93]

8 261 ms 261 ms 261 ms prs-bb2-pos6-0-0.telia.net [213.248.65.114]

9 261 ms 261 ms 262 ms prs-b2-pos11-0.telia.net [213.248.65.226]

10 262 ms 261 ms 261 ms prs-tc-ks51-geth0-2.telia.net [213.248.70.70]

*** NOTICE: Hop (4) should be 266ms or there-abouts. It is currently 450ms.
 
I'm sure it must be Telkom screwing things up again. Can they not do anything right?
 
mm, I have same prob...

phoned SAOL - Say nothing wrong..
phone Telkom - Say nothing wrong but will have line tested...

I am currently playing SWG and it's completely unplayable where I have a p-loss of 30-40%

This does not bode well, If I can't play my mmo's I have no use for ADSL....
 
Exactly - This is bs... Maybe it's just the first of the month? I'll give it until tomorrow.
 
Some more info ...

It seems there is a problem with the IP allocation for the unshaped accounts and we have been moved to the shaped IP allocation.

SAOL & SAIX are looking into this and it will hopefully be fixed as soon as possible.
 
Mine is sorted again, though I had to change my user name to force it to the unshaped IP's. I don't want to give the change here, as I don't know if it was a test just for myself or if it is a global fix for all the SAOL users.

Please contact the SAOL support team if your problem still persists.
 
As of 1 Nov you need an unshaped username. WA usernames now have ".unshaped" appended.

FYI unshaped IP range is : 165.165.0~31.X
 
I have been with SAOL for about 5 months, and never have I experienced sub 400 pings consistently (EU Servers). And I stand corrected but none of my guild mates have either :confused: .

Anyway thanks for the FYI will email SAOL this morning.
 
wamatt said:
As of 1 Nov you need an unshaped username. WA usernames now have ".unshaped" appended.

FYI unshaped IP range is : 165.165.0~31.X

Hi Matt
Just bought a gig of unshaped but the username i was emailed does not have ".unshaped" appended. I have connected with the setting given and i appear to be in the shaped pool.
Where do i tag the .unshaped on??
Thanks
Dave
 
Hi all,

For SAOL accounts you need to append @saolun to your username on your router, this will ensure that you are in the correct pool.

Sincerely
Tarquin Douglass

(CEO) Nyala Communications (Pty) Ltd.
Web: http://www.saol.com
Tel: (031)240-7800
Cel: (083)645-7890
 
WA seems to be the only ISP actively involved here. Perhaps I should indeed swop over to them.
 
FireFLi said:
I have been with SAOL for about 5 months, and never have I experienced sub 400 pings consistently (EU Servers). And I stand corrected but none of my guild mates have either :confused: .

Just FYI: My ping via Mrtg is < 400ms: This is just the latency to the authentication servers. My latency in game is usually between 500-600ms.
 
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