peered95
08-11-2005, 10:51 AM
Well, i have the choice and it is proving to be a very difficult one...
So if any of you guys can help me out i would appreciate it :)
So if any of you guys can help me out i would appreciate it :)
View Full Version : DFI lanparty nForce 4 or ASUS k8n-sli premium
Simple Twist Of Fate
08-11-2005, 10:53 AM
i love my dfi .. nforce3 ... when i upgrade i will stick to DFI
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useless
08-11-2005, 11:09 AM
ASUS K8N-SLI... have read many good reviews about it and if you google it you will find many... :D
Person
08-11-2005, 11:26 AM
DFI all the way.
peered95
08-11-2005, 11:33 AM
me is sliding towards the dfi...
useless
08-11-2005, 11:35 AM
read some reviews on the net, they will give you more info on the aspects of the mobo's you are looking at. ;)
Angellus
08-11-2005, 11:38 AM
Well ask fiveby5 which one he has. Dont know if it is the ASUS k8n-sli premium or deluxe but one of the 2 has a crappy north bridge fan that fails. The new revision of the board has this heatpipe technology and no longer gives any problems.
I have never used a DFI but I hear good things about them. ASUS is awesome though.
If I had to choose I would more than likely go with the ASUS.
I have never used a DFI but I hear good things about them. ASUS is awesome though.
If I had to choose I would more than likely go with the ASUS.
Toxin
08-11-2005, 01:15 PM
DFI: http://www.tomshardware.com/motherboard/20050531/sli_motherboards-04.html
Great motherboard for gamers
Great overclocking (if you're into that)
Great equipment bundle on the more expensive versions (rounded cables, sleeving kit etc)
Software bundle lacking a bit
ASUS: http://www.tomshardware.com/motherboard/20050323/index-01.html
Great all round board
Not really made for overclocking but it can give it a decent go
Decent equipment bundle
Great software bundle
Software triggered SLI switching (no more little chip-thing that you need to swap around for SLI)
End of the day if you're are thinking of overclocking you'll be hard pushed to find a better overclocking board than the DFI.
If you're not overclocking than save your money and go with the ASUS board.
Great motherboard for gamers
Great overclocking (if you're into that)
Great equipment bundle on the more expensive versions (rounded cables, sleeving kit etc)
Software bundle lacking a bit
ASUS: http://www.tomshardware.com/motherboard/20050323/index-01.html
Great all round board
Not really made for overclocking but it can give it a decent go
Decent equipment bundle
Great software bundle
Software triggered SLI switching (no more little chip-thing that you need to swap around for SLI)
End of the day if you're are thinking of overclocking you'll be hard pushed to find a better overclocking board than the DFI.
If you're not overclocking than save your money and go with the ASUS board.
Chris
08-11-2005, 01:38 PM
Yeah, you can't find a more stable mobo than the ASUS :)
The_Assimilator
08-11-2005, 01:58 PM
DFI are tops when it comes to pushing your system to the max, but it doesn't make sense to fork out that much cash unless you're going to be using top-quality components (low latency RAM, dual-core CPU, etc.). If you want a decent mobo that'll save you some cash, get the ASUS.
rburley
08-11-2005, 03:36 PM
what about gigabyte?
Angellus
08-11-2005, 03:40 PM
what about gigabyte?
I have had one Gigabyte board and actually gave no problems. I would take a look at the Gigabyte NF4 SLI and the MSI NF4 SLI as well.
I have had one Gigabyte board and actually gave no problems. I would take a look at the Gigabyte NF4 SLI and the MSI NF4 SLI as well.
Toxin
08-11-2005, 04:15 PM
Gigabyte: http://www.tomshardware.com/motherboard/20050531/sli_motherboards-08.html ;)
Silent_Bob
09-11-2005, 02:14 PM
get the asus
Toxin
09-11-2005, 05:07 PM
Another ASUS board to think about is the A8N32-SLI Deluxe: http://www.asus.com/products4.aspx?l1=3&l2=15&l3=0&model=744&modelmenu=1
Fancy true dual x16 SLI?
The A8N32-SLI Deluxe supports dual PCI Express x16 slots running at full speed to liberate graphics cards from the narrow bandwidth platform of x8 speed only. With ASUS' innovative designs to bring out the real potential of NVIDIA nForce4 SLI X16 chipsets, gamers can easily enjoy faster graphics performance and higher video quality today, and be ready for the even more demanding tasks of tomorrow!
Fancy true dual x16 SLI?
The A8N32-SLI Deluxe supports dual PCI Express x16 slots running at full speed to liberate graphics cards from the narrow bandwidth platform of x8 speed only. With ASUS' innovative designs to bring out the real potential of NVIDIA nForce4 SLI X16 chipsets, gamers can easily enjoy faster graphics performance and higher video quality today, and be ready for the even more demanding tasks of tomorrow!
mic_y
09-11-2005, 09:13 PM
Toxin, If you look at it, the whole Dual 16x PCIe thing is just plain marketing. Think about it: Did AGPx8 bring any performance benefits to the scene? Well Now as far as I remember (Please correct me if I am wrong), PCIe x16 has about 4 times the bandwidth of AGPx8. So from that we can deduct that PCIe x8 has double that of AGPx8. Now if there were no performance benefits from AGPx8, and with PCIe x8 you have double the bandwidth, the it doesnt really matter caus there isnt gonna be a single app to push that data across the bus (Not ever, but at least in the next 4 years - In which case there will be reason to get a Dual 16x PCIe board). So if you ask me then don't run around after the dual 16x PCIe, and if you can get a cheaper Dual x8 board then go for it...
As to the main question, there are 4 boards which are very close in all aspects (Features, Performance, Price). Choose which ever one you feel is right for your needs. The advantages of each board have already been outlined, so to me it would come down to a matter of price, and overclockability...
As to the main question, there are 4 boards which are very close in all aspects (Features, Performance, Price). Choose which ever one you feel is right for your needs. The advantages of each board have already been outlined, so to me it would come down to a matter of price, and overclockability...
Toxin
10-11-2005, 08:11 AM
Toxin, If you look at it, the whole Dual 16x PCIe thing is just plain marketing. Think about it: Did AGPx8 bring any performance benefits to the scene? Well Now as far as I remember (Please correct me if I am wrong), PCIe x16 has about 4 times the bandwidth of AGPx8. So from that we can deduct that PCIe x8 has double that of AGPx8. Now if there were no performance benefits from AGPx8, and with PCIe x8 you have double the bandwidth, the it doesnt really matter caus there isnt gonna be a single app to push that data across the bus (Not ever, but at least in the next 4 years - In which case there will be reason to get a Dual 16x PCIe board). So if you ask me then don't run around after the dual 16x PCIe, and if you can get a cheaper Dual x8 board then go for it...
Yip, your understanding of PCIe looks correct to me
The bolded part says it all. It's called being future proof. Add that it's dual core compatible and technically I won't have to buy another mobo for a long time. :)
As to the main question, there are 4 boards which are very close in all aspects (Features, Performance, Price). Choose which ever one you feel is right for your needs. The advantages of each board have already been outlined, so to me it would come down to a matter of price, and overclockability...
I can get it for only R200 more than the A8N SLI Premium. It's a no brainer. :cool: I also don't do any overclocking so I'm ok there as well.
Trust me I've been thinking about this for a long, long time. ;)
Yip, your understanding of PCIe looks correct to me
The bolded part says it all. It's called being future proof. Add that it's dual core compatible and technically I won't have to buy another mobo for a long time. :)
As to the main question, there are 4 boards which are very close in all aspects (Features, Performance, Price). Choose which ever one you feel is right for your needs. The advantages of each board have already been outlined, so to me it would come down to a matter of price, and overclockability...
I can get it for only R200 more than the A8N SLI Premium. It's a no brainer. :cool: I also don't do any overclocking so I'm ok there as well.
Trust me I've been thinking about this for a long, long time. ;)
Luke7777
10-11-2005, 08:49 AM
Well ask fiveby5 which one he has. Dont know if it is the ASUS k8n-sli premium or deluxe but one of the 2 has a crappy north bridge fan that fails. That would be the Deluxe. Been there, done it, had it replaced with a Thermaltake solution
Angellus
10-11-2005, 11:57 AM
That would be the Deluxe. Been there, done it, had it replaced with a Thermaltake solution
Other than the Fan that has been replaced on the new revision the board is great. ASUS always makes good stuff.
Other than the Fan that has been replaced on the new revision the board is great. ASUS always makes good stuff.
killadoob
10-11-2005, 02:01 PM
i use a gigabyte board and its never (touch wood) gven a day's trboule i love gigabyte
i love anything from rectron
looks like asus ftw
i love anything from rectron
looks like asus ftw
mic_y
10-11-2005, 03:44 PM
Yip, your understanding of PCIe looks correct to me
The bolded part says it all. It's called being future proof. Add that it's dual core compatible and technically I won't have to buy another mobo for a long time. :)
Well look, if you wanna keep a board for a long time, then at least wait till Socket M2 comes out (Athlon 64 with DDR2 support). At least you wont be stuck without a CPU to buy in the next year or 2, since AFAIK AMD is planning on phasing out all S939 CPU's in about a year from now. That is what I would call being future proof... ;)
The bolded part says it all. It's called being future proof. Add that it's dual core compatible and technically I won't have to buy another mobo for a long time. :)
Well look, if you wanna keep a board for a long time, then at least wait till Socket M2 comes out (Athlon 64 with DDR2 support). At least you wont be stuck without a CPU to buy in the next year or 2, since AFAIK AMD is planning on phasing out all S939 CPU's in about a year from now. That is what I would call being future proof... ;)
Angellus
10-11-2005, 03:50 PM
Well look, if you wanna keep a board for a long time, then at least wait till Socket M2 comes out (Athlon 64 with DDR2 support). At least you wont be stuck without a CPU to buy in the next year or 2, since AFAIK AMD is planning on phasing out all S939 CPU's in about a year from now. That is what I would call being future proof... ;)
Well almost correct, AMD plan on doing the final phasing out of socket 939 about one year after socket M2 is released. M2 is still a little while away.
Well almost correct, AMD plan on doing the final phasing out of socket 939 about one year after socket M2 is released. M2 is still a little while away.
Toxin
10-11-2005, 04:05 PM
So buying the AMDX2 4400+ is not future proof? :p I've got a deal going through for one of my kidneys so I might even get myself the 4800+
If the M2 comes out in 2 years time then I can look into that. If I haven't bought another CPU in that time I think it'd be worth it. :)
If the M2 comes out in 2 years time then I can look into that. If I haven't bought another CPU in that time I think it'd be worth it. :)
Angellus
10-11-2005, 06:05 PM
So buying the AMDX2 4400+ is not future proof? :p I've got a deal going through for one of my kidneys so I might even get myself the 4800+
If the M2 comes out in 2 years time then I can look into that. If I haven't bought another CPU in that time I think it'd be worth it. :)
M2 is coming out early next year so if I were you I would save up and only buy then.
If the M2 comes out in 2 years time then I can look into that. If I haven't bought another CPU in that time I think it'd be worth it. :)
M2 is coming out early next year so if I were you I would save up and only buy then.
Chris
10-11-2005, 06:58 PM
But then by next year there will be something better than M2 in the pipeline.
Eish! Technology moves to fast.
Eish! Technology moves to fast.
Angellus
10-11-2005, 09:22 PM
But then by next year there will be something better than M2 in the pipeline.
Eish! Technology moves to fast.
Eish is correct! there is nothing like "Future Proofing", the best you can do is to buy something that will last as long as posible and to try and find the best value for money
Eish! Technology moves to fast.
Eish is correct! there is nothing like "Future Proofing", the best you can do is to buy something that will last as long as posible and to try and find the best value for money
Silent_Bob
10-11-2005, 09:42 PM
i reccomend to wait, if u cant wait then pm me for prices
peered95
11-11-2005, 10:13 AM
Well its too bad all you asus fan boys...i got the DFI and it kills
Simple Twist Of Fate
11-11-2005, 10:49 AM
Dfi - Ftw:)