The Iniquity Of Bandwidth Caps

Nice article!

Just more proof of the crap Telkom spin doctors dish out to the public!
 
“The cap was never meant to discourage usage,” insists Rikus Matthyser, MD of TelkomInternet.
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HAHA, then what are caps for? :rolleyes:

ISPs are divided about Telkom’s new capping policy. Some like the new model because it provides a fairer pricing structure for consumers.
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I bet these ISP's are not the ISP's which offered the bigger-cap accounts.
 
Telkom defends its policy, saying it has no other option, given that the previous system was being “abused” — a word Telkom executives use often — by a handful of its users. An estimated 4% of broadband users were consuming about 50% of Telkom’s network capacity, according to product development executive Steven White.
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I feel like doing a few sums again:
4% of 100 000 users = 4000 users
4000 x 1024kbps = 4Gbps
so according to them the total network capacity of Telkom is 8Gbps.
Ignoring local and looking at international, what are they doing with the other 100+ Gbps on the cable?

On another note, yesterday I cracked and re-ordered ADSL. Sadly it's still the best of a terrible bunch.
 
Good pont pox.. or is it that only 8Gbps is allocated.
 
Have they ever thought that the reason why people dont reach their cap is because they have been capped before and know teh_pain ! So they use as little as possible to avoid having to pay more . Also how many people in the past , before the 30 gig accounts came out , had to by multiple 3 gigs accounts to continue doing international buisness , seeing as though adsl is far cheaper than diginet .

I know of people who had 3 x 3 gig accounts so they could still do buisness after reaching their cap , this is another reason why i think telkom telkom introduced this new system . They were loosing money and lots of it and forcing people back to only 3 gigs minimum ( home users ) they are forcing the uneducated masses to buy more of their product ( bandwidth) . Lets face it when we had the 30 gig adsl webafrica offerings , people complained less about capping and more about telkoms lack of service ect .

Now we have been forced back again , we just cant seem to go forward with this company running its monopoly . All we have to do is hand over the ky jelly and bend over :mad: , but fear not soon , after we all jump ship to the SNO and yes i am optomistic , i will do it just out of principle , maybe then they will wake up , when their adsl clients and uptake drop to 0 and we are all on the SNO laughing while telkom wonders what went wrong .

This comapny is useless ! Their "Think tank " contain larel and hardy and the marx brothers .
 
Humpf! The usual rubbish about the 4% of users that "abuse" the network. It's high time that White et al get the word "abuse" out of their vocabulary.

The whole idea of having broadband is that you can do a whole lot of things on the Internet that you can't do using dial-up. Like listening to Internet Radio stations, playing online games and so forth.

As I've said elsewhere, it's really crap living in a third-world backwater with a monopoly telco that has third-world thinking. Even Mauritius has more progressive thinking, even though their incumbent (MT) is almost as backward as ours. Aarghh!
 
Total Capacity

So what is the actuall capacity of the SAT3 cable or whatever cable they're using :confused: like per second.............................. ??
 
Matthyser says broadband is a “First World” technology.
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Garbage! Tell the other African countries, Mauritius, Brazil, India and the numerous others that. Will refrain from stronger language.

You're just defending the evil that's making you profit at the people's expense.
 
Pox said:
I feel like doing a few sums again:
4% of 100 000 users = 4000 users
4000 x 1024kbps = 4Gbps
so according to them the total network capacity of Telkom is 8Gbps.
Ignoring local and looking at international, what are they doing with the other 100+ Gbps on the cable?

On another note, yesterday I cracked and re-ordered ADSL. Sadly it's still the best of a terrible bunch.
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You forgot to devide that total by 30.

If 96% of users only use 1.4 Gigs then what is the problem of creating higher caps for the other 4%. Some quick maths....

"Normal users"
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1.4 Gb * 96000 users = 134400 Gb -> currently used.
3 Gb * 96000 users = 288000 -> total of the caps
288000 - 134400 = 153600 Gb

now lets take the left over and add that to the "abusers" account

The abusers
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153600 Gb / 4000 users = 38.4 Gb per user
38.4 + 3 for his own account.

41.4 Gb mininum cap with the current situation.

WTF is the problem, and Mr.White where do you get that we use 50% of your network. Please stop telling us lies.:mad:
 
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sunsoffun this may be a good calculation to show to icasa when the hearings come around again
 
vbtechie said:
Humpf! The usual rubbish about the 4% of users that "abuse" the network. It's high time that White et al get the word "abuse" out of their vocabulary.

The whole idea of having broadband is that you can do a whole lot of things on the Internet that you can't do using dial-up. Like listening to Internet Radio stations, playing online games and so forth.

As I've said elsewhere, it's really crap living in a third-world backwater with a monopoly telco that has third-world thinking. Even Mauritius has more progressive thinking, even though their incumbent (MT) is almost as backward as ours. Aarghh!
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If this 4% of ADSL users even exists and are "abusing" the network as Telkom so bluntly put it, then why the blooming heck don't they clamp down on this 4% and Cap them or whatever.
Why must the rest of us constantly hear this stuck record from Telkom telling us stories that have nothing actually to do with the normal average ADSL user?
And why must the 96% of users (normal users) have to theoretically suffer as a result of the alleged "abuse" by the 4%.
We are not children here and this situation sounds like a classroom.
We work hard for our money and expect a decent service in return.
If the 96% knew who the 4% were we could try and do something about it, but then on the other hand it is not the 96% of user’s problem to sort out the 4% in any event.
It is Telkom's problem to sort out.
If Telkom know that this alleged 4% exists, like they say, then they also know who they are as well?
Then Telkom should go and do something about those specific users that make up the 4% of alleged "abusive" users and Telkom should leave the rest of us in peace.
Dammit.:mad:
 
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Cap

Bha...

I run Windows Sus @ home 1 Update was 1.2 Gig
I need 4 files in total from M$ that in total is 1.603 Gb

Today on 2 of Dec My total Usage is ....
1.33 Gb :( ... I Havent even started playing CS, Downloaded Virus Def, New drivers etc. the normal things only visited a few sites !!!!!

“The cap was never meant to discourage usage,” insists Rikus Matthyser, MD of TelkomInternet

that update did ...... Mr Dum@$$ ... will send foto 4 more cap :(

I think Telkom and M$ is in bed with each other ......
or M$ abuses the monopoly, telkom should go after them then too .. they make us abuse the cap ...

WE NEED MORE CAP...
 
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[quote="RoqueEc]Bha...

I run Windows Sus @ home 1 Update was 1.2 Gig
I need 4 files in total from M$ that in total is 1.603 Gb

Today on 2 of Dec My total Usage is ....
1.33 Gb ... I Havent even started playing CS, Downloaded Virus Def, New drivers etc. the normal things only visited a few sites !!!!!

“The cap was never meant to discourage usage,” insists Rikus Matthyser, MD of TelkomInternet

that update did ...... Mr Dum@$$ ... will send foto 4 more cap

I think Telkom and M$ is in bed with each other ......
or M$ abuses the monopoly, telkom should go after them then too .. they make us abuse the cap ...

WE NEED MORE CAP...[/quote]
And what of those of us who need to download SuSE/Fedora/Mandriva etc/etc/insert your fave Linux distro here and these distros are 5 CD ISO images at 650Mb each... We DO need to download and evaluate software in order to provide a better service to our clients...

Bah! Humbug! Telkom is restricting free software adoption as well... why download when the store round the corner have got M$ [censored] in stock, which is cheaper than an ADSL download?

Mr Rikus - how can you insists that "The cap was never meant to discourage usage,” when you cannot download movies, watch streaming videos or listen to Internet radio without sacrificing some or all of your precious cap is beyond me... so therefore I must make the logical conclusion that your advertisements regarding TelkomADSL and "Download Life" is misleading. How do you explain to children wanting to do a school project that they cannot watch a video clip as it will eat up the cap?

How do you expect a technician to do his/her work (working via VPN and using VNC) to fix network problems remotely when all we have is a lousy 3Gb cap?

And why, above all, why is it cheaper to fly to Hong Kopng to download 100Gb of data? This is the benchmark by which you shall be judged.

:mad:
 
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Things that make you go bharrhhhh !!!!!!
Yeah it is betta to test at home than work gos u get less distractions at home i Just mentioned M$ cos i work for a company "x" state owned ... and our clients .. doe, dod, doc do"x" etc. uses M$ and until they convert i mention M$
 
ISPs are divided about Telkom’s new capping policy. Some like the new model because it provides a fairer pricing structure for consumers
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It's not the per usage billing, it's the price. Anyway pricing is never fair - those who buy a little pay more per item than those who buy a lot.
 
The Iniquity Of Bandwidth Caps said:
Telkom defends its policy, saying it has no other option, given that the previous system was being “abused” — a word Telkom executives use often — by a handful of its users. An estimated 4% of broadband users were consuming about 50% of Telkom’s network capacity, according to product development executive Steven White. Bandwidth caps are essential to maintain a quality of service, White maintains.
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Let's analyze!

OK - whip out them calculators, or click Start > Run and type 'calc' and press Enter :) Let's work on a worst case scenario of everyone running a 512k line - and Stevie mentioned the 'abuse' before the 1Mbps lines came out so we will use the 512k as an example.

4% 'abusers' of +-95000 users = 3800 'abusers'
3800 'abusers' x 512Kbps = 1945.6 Mbps
1945.6 Mbps (50% of Telkom's bandwidth) x 2 = 3891.2Mbps (Apparent total bandwidth)

.....................so 1.945Gbps being 50% of Telkom's total bandwdith - Telkom only has 3.89Gbps total bandwidth available??? :eek:

Another Telkom lie... shame on them for thinking no one would make sums and prove them wrong!
 
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