Is SA music dying? [Archive]

Bizkit87

10-05-2011, 12:42 PM

The words of this popular song from Kurt Darren could just as well have been written about the sharp decline in Afrikaans CD sales over the last while.

Large music stores have been sending large quantities of CDs back to record companies because they do not sell. Artists believe it's because the recession isn't over - and that the public has become poorer. But Robert Ferns, Musica's head of sales, says it's especially due to bad songs appearing on CDs that sales have declined.

Hehe, good man

Gathering dust

Ferns unequivocally states that a lack of creativity causes people to not buy CDs. The assumption has always been that the illegal sale of pirated CDs damages the entertainment industry. But according to Ferns "the Afrikaans buyer is very loyal to his artists and will not easily buy a CD on the street".

I want to 'like' this guy on FB .... :D

Musica has returned thousands of CDs over the last while, including those of even Kurt Darren, because it is only gathering dust on the shelves. Ferns says that although they have always returned CDs in the past, this is the first time they have to return so many.

Replica

Manager Louis van Wyk admits that the poor sales of Dozi's album Voel So Reg has to do with weak songs. "You can't be a number one artist for very long. As times change, you have to constantly adapt your creativity to produce quality music."

Music expert Barry Pretorius says some artists underestimate the public. "To translate foreign tunes into Afrikaans with meaningless lyrics show that you are a replica of someone else. This is currently happening with many artists."

Happens way too much with "Afrikaans" [i put brackets, because there are plenty of Afrikaans singers/bands that produce awesome music] Singers

Kurt Darren disagrees, but admits that his CD Oos Wes, Tuis Bes sold badly. "It's true that a hit sells your CD. Like my Kaptein CD that sold 190 000 versus my Oos Wes, Tuis Bes CD that sold 65 000. People have become poorer. "

or people have finally started to realise what most of us have know for years, its k@k music! and they have become tired of your "selfde pap, ander sous" cd's

Death to all their "music" careers.;)

Here (http://www.channel24.co.za/Music/Features/The-truth-about-Afrikaans-CD-sales-20110509)

Pooky

10-05-2011, 12:44 PM

It depends what music genre though.

I listen to house/kwaito and there is some really good stuff that comes from SA artists.

Bizkit87

10-05-2011, 12:47 PM

It depends what music genre though.

I listen to house/kwaito and there is some really good stuff that comes from SA artists.

yeah, thats also why i say "afrikaans" . I also believe there are plenty of brilliant artist [across all genres].

In fact, i believe that the quality of our rock and metal bands can compete with any band worldwide, even though most of them aren't "mainstream"

Pooky

10-05-2011, 12:49 PM

One band I ACTUALLY CANNOT STAND to listen to is The Parlotones. They are so awful.

PhreakBoy

10-05-2011, 12:52 PM

I'm Afrikaans and must agree with you that "Afrikaans - Pop" music has gone stale of late. Even the new names entering the market are all copies of older bands. There is a defenite need for some revitalisation.

However, SA music generally is not dying - you only need to listen to Tuks FM for a short while to come to the conclusion that SA music generally is alive and thriving.

seventhson

10-05-2011, 12:53 PM

South african music=fail.

Rosaudio

10-05-2011, 12:58 PM

Maybe no one is buying his music because it's crap? Just a thought..

Bizkit87

10-05-2011, 12:59 PM

One band I ACTUALLY CANNOT STAND to listen to is The Parlotones. They are so awful.

Yeah, if someone asks you the definition of "commercial pop", just point them to Parlotones

I'm Afrikaans and must agree with you that "Afrikaans - Pop" music has gone stale of late. Even the new names entering the market are all copies of older bands. There is a defenite need for some revitalisation.

However, SA music generally is not dying - you only need to listen to Tuks FM for a short while to come to the conclusion that SA music generally is alive and thriving.

Agreed, just a pity that these bands do not get the recognition they deserve

South african music=fail.

not true, what type of music are you into?

syntax

10-05-2011, 01:10 PM

One band I ACTUALLY CANNOT STAND to listen to is The Parlotones. They are so awful.

They are not awful, you just dont like them. There is a difference. Because they are bloody good, watch them live and you can tell just how good
I dont like prime circle, doesnt mean they are not a good band, just that I dont like their style etc

South african music=fail.

Thats a bit harsh..there is still some good stuff happening. Although, alternatively, it does seem to have dropped a bit.
Gotta say, people like Barney simon (i hate him) did do some good stuff for our music way back

Maybe no one is buying his music because it's crap? Just a thought..

Exactly

Natas

10-05-2011, 01:11 PM

Maybe no one is buying his music because it's crap? Just a thought..

+1

Most SA music is utter crap. You say South African music and I think Johnny Cleg and the Parlatones. VOMIT!! Other than the stuff coming from those making electro, hip hop/rap and kwaito, most of it is RUBBISH. When it comes to bands and signers.. SA music is CRAAAAAP!

We do however have some really talented people making less popular forms of music. A heard a set a while back by Fletcher.. I think the set aired on a BBC radio station and consisted entirely of tracks produced by South Africans... the entire set was tight...

seventhson

10-05-2011, 01:11 PM

Yeah, if someone asks you the definition of "commercial pop", just point them to Parlotones

Agreed, just a pity that these bands do not get the recognition they deserve

not true, what type of music are you into?

MEtal. Its not that I just automatically not like them but everything I heard is just so boring. And so meh.

PhreakBoy

10-05-2011, 01:20 PM

South african music=fail.

Short-sighted generilisations = fail

(Correct me if I'm wrong, but aren't you in a band, which is in South Africa, thus doesn't this mean you make SA music?)

EDIT: And does this mean you fail for even attempting to make music as you are South African?

Bizkit87

10-05-2011, 01:24 PM

MEtal. Its not that I just automatically not like them but everything I heard is just so boring. And so meh.

ok, i do like Metal [although, that's like saying "i like food", there is so many types of metal]. but i'm not aware of any really stand out local bands... will see what i can dig up.

Here's a list, but i'm not aware of most of these bands, perhaps you can tell me which ones are good?
KOBUS,
MIND ASSAULT
WARINSANE
STRIDENT
AZRAIL
AGRO
…AND CHAOS
ANCIENT INFLUENCE
A.O.A.
AUTUMN SUN
CHOKING HAZARD
CHROMIUM
CONSCRIPT
CONTRAST THE WATER
DEITY'S MUSE
ELEGY
EREBUS
FEAR FALL
GRINDLOCK
HE*SHA*BURN
JUGGERNAUGHT
KNAVE
LADYAXE
NIXON CREEP
SACRIFIST
WARTHANE

I'll be honest, i don't know most of them.... but hey, half the fun of music is discovery.

Picard

10-05-2011, 01:28 PM

I listen to house/kwaito ...

Nooooooo!

Kosmik

10-05-2011, 01:37 PM

Nooooooo!

Only took a few months in UND :D

GhostSixFour

10-05-2011, 01:39 PM

Only reason I'll buy south african music is because I can't the bloody things..

creeper

10-05-2011, 01:54 PM

One band I ACTUALLY CANNOT STAND to listen to is The Parlotones. They are so awful.

And the irony is that it is one of the most popular "rock" bands. More pop in my opinion.

Regarding the Rock genre. Currently, Aking is a great band to listen to. Afrikaan alternative is also making strong inroads via Heuwels Fantasties etc.

So, the music industry isn't dying, but there is definitely shift to other music.

So, Kaptein span die seile, Afrikaans crap musiek is gaan tot sy einde (sing it) :)

scotty777

10-05-2011, 02:39 PM

I'm not that big on South African music, although a few do stand out, some that I would definitely listen to, and others that, although it's not my kind of thing, I recognise their talent, and they are doing what they are trying to do VERY well.

As for South Africans competing on the international stage, with an international sound, there just aren't really any that stand out to me.

I'm going for more of a pop-vibe, but I think these groups stand out and I like them so much, it's like music to my ears:

Aking ?? (how has everyone over looked this... They amazing, and live, even better!)
Goldfish (Ok, they pop and electro-jazz, which is not everyones cup of tea... but I dig them, their live performance is truly amazing)

Jax Panik.
Now, Jax Panik is weird. They very pop, but not SA pop, they have an international Sound, good live performance, and at their current rate, I can see them penetrating the international market very well. They have a 3Oh!3 sort of vibe, which is cool if you into more pop music.

Die Antword
I despise them, I ran out of a live concert while they were playing. However, they seem to 'entertain' a lot of people, which is alright I guess.

Those are the ones that just popped into my mind now, so feel free to light a fire and burn me with it if you don't agree :o.

syntax

10-05-2011, 02:42 PM

I quite enjoy flash republic

GreGorGy

10-05-2011, 02:48 PM

Thats a bit harsh..there is still some good stuff happening. Although, alternatively, it does seem to have dropped a bit.
Gotta say, people like Barney simon (i hate him) did do some good stuff for our music way back

Why? What'd he do to you? He is on Jacaranda FM now - best 3 hours of my day (13 to 16h00) and Saturdays (12h00 to 14h00). Of course, the railroading that Benji Moodie sucks. Both of these individuals did - and continue to do - really good stuff for ZAROCK.

scotty777

10-05-2011, 02:52 PM

I quite enjoy flash republic

Whoops! forget them! ha ha, I dig them too :)

Mila

10-05-2011, 02:53 PM

LEts hope so. I'm tired of every second idiot singing about his bokkie of baby.

GreyBush

10-05-2011, 02:56 PM

One band I ACTUALLY CANNOT STAND to listen to is The Parlotones. They are so awful.

Prime circle and Watershed are up there too.

Korn1

10-05-2011, 02:57 PM

lol South African metal all sounds the same...mumbling screaming.

syntax

10-05-2011, 02:57 PM

Why? What'd he do to you? He is on Jacaranda FM now - best 3 hours of my day (13 to 16h00) and Saturdays (12h00 to 14h00). Of course, the railroading that Benji Moodie sucks. Both of these individuals did - and continue to do - really good stuff for ZAROCK.

Its weird, I used to like his shows, but loathed him. The night zoo was ridiculously cool, uncle pauls bed time stories ftw!
Anyways, he started to get really annoying for me at live shows and clubs. I actually wanted to belt him trying to force everyone at doors to go down on their haunches for nelly the elephant..he dragged it out for ages.
Cant deny he did a lot for SA rock, but i just dont like the guy

syntax

10-05-2011, 02:58 PM

LEts hope so. I'm tired of every second idiot singing about his bokkie of baby.

Im tired of hearing these morons singing about how rich they are, or how they will blow themselves up for a girl.
What happened to obscure and random.

Korn1

10-05-2011, 02:59 PM

You guys should listen to The comic book theory I mean they not my friends or anything:whistle:

Alan

10-05-2011, 02:59 PM

quality music worldwide is in a steep decline.

prOd

10-05-2011, 03:03 PM

No SA band will ever top Marlowe.

/discuss

cpu.

10-05-2011, 03:03 PM

Skud jou bizkit.:D

Afrikaans music with the kiddy music for adults don't work for me (handjies, bokkie, "handjies klap koekies bak" etc). Jack Parrow is entertaining in the comedy genre but he's too dumb to remember his own name and need to repeat it the whole time.

syntax

10-05-2011, 03:06 PM

No SA band will ever top Marlowe.

/discuss

hmmm, saron gas dominates them...seether does to :)
I quite liked squeel, sons of trout, henry ate, the L.E.D, the usual, 16 stitch etc etc We had/have some cracker bands

PhreakBoy

10-05-2011, 03:11 PM

hmmm, saron gas dominates them...seether does to :)
I quite liked squeel, sons of trout, henry ate, the L.E.D, the usual, 16 stitch etc etc We had/have some cracker bands

Problem is: we're getting old and trying to compare the new bands to those bands mentioned above.

I'll add to your list: Tweak, Just Jinger, The Narrow

seanyp00h

10-05-2011, 03:14 PM

lol South African metal all sounds the same...mumbling screaming.

You obviously havn't listened to many SA bands then.

Bizkit87

10-05-2011, 03:15 PM

No SA band will ever top Marlowe.

/discuss

Marlowe – Tears on the Abstract was an AWESOME tune, still love it, but i wont say they are the best.

Skud jou bizkit.:D

Afrikaans music with the kiddy music for adults don't work for me (handjies, bokkie, "handjies klap koekies bak" etc). Jack Parrow is entertaining in the comedy genre but he's too dumb to remember his own name and need to repeat it the whole time.

hehe, definitely not how i got my nick, trust me...

Jack Parrow/Die Antwoord etc are more BS than sokkie music [ill add the "in my opinion"]

dapri

10-05-2011, 03:17 PM

I don't think it is at all dying. Parlotones are superb, so are locnville, goldfish, prime circle and loving goodluck... SA music is simply getting more awesome every time :)

syntax

10-05-2011, 03:18 PM

Problem is: we're getting old and trying to compare the new bands to those bands mentioned above.

I'll add to your list: Tweak, Just Jinger, The Narrow

Hey hey...i am not getting old!!! ;)

but i agree, i find myself finding less and less new bands that i enjoy and thinking about the good ol days of real music :)

scotty777

10-05-2011, 03:21 PM

Hey hey...i am not getting old!!! ;)

but i agree, i find myself finding less and less new bands that i enjoy and thinking about the good ol days of real music :)

Ahhh, the joys of being young... growing up to worse music than your parents, and liking it.

VioletF

10-05-2011, 03:22 PM

Bizkit87

10-05-2011, 03:26 PM

well, if you like [and what to contribute] to "new" SA bands, see my sig, just post the band there, and i'll add it to my list [when i have internet at home again , telkom.....]

PhreakBoy

10-05-2011, 03:26 PM

Has anyone else noticed how repetitive SA music (especially if released within the last few years) has become? Afrikaans songs in particular.

Quite often you get 2 verses and a chorus which is repeated ad infinitum.

Seems like some SA lyrics writers still have a lot of learning to do.

I get what you are saying, but do not agree that the problem is isolated to SA musicians, their international counterparts are just as guilty of this. (Perhaps I could agree that a higher percentage of South African musicians make themselves guilty of this, but this then agrees to the OP's post regarding a lot of musicians following a formulae for writing songs and not coming out with anything new)

prOd

10-05-2011, 03:27 PM

I don't think it is at all dying. Parlotones are superb, so are locnville, goldfish, prime circle and loving goodluck... SA music is simply getting more awesome every time :)

Not sure if serious.

Zen17h

10-05-2011, 03:28 PM

Yeaaars ago I developed a mental block regarding ANY afrikaans music - to me it will always be idiotic lyrics with the simplest rhyming and no 'image' beyond the blatantly obvious - A.K.A. Ska-rumba or whatever it was called

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cpu.

10-05-2011, 03:29 PM

hehe, definitely not how i got my nick, trust me...

Jack Parrow/Die Antwoord etc are more BS than sokkie music [ill add the "in my opinion"]

I also feel the need to clarify.:) JP was just an example of "something else"(when in one of those moods). I'm a Theuns, Juanita {and Static-X, Godsmack (non-SA)} kind of person. Parletones (and Coldplay types) don't feature in my list.

Mila

10-05-2011, 03:36 PM

Im tired of hearing these morons singing about how rich they are, or how they will blow themselves up for a girl.
What happened to obscure and random.

Some idiot making Zef cool now we have a bunch of children schooled in our education system thinking it’s cool to be Zef.

PhreakBoy

10-05-2011, 03:37 PM

Some idiot making Zef cool now we have a bunch of children schooled in our education system thinking it’s cool to be Zef.

Ai. Come on - we all know you love Zef - you're from Brakpan after all :D

Bizkit87

10-05-2011, 03:41 PM

I also feel the need to clarify.:) JP was just an example of "something else"(when in one of those moods). I'm a Theuns, Juanita {and Static-X, Godsmack (non-SA)} kind of person. Parletones (and Coldplay types) don't feature in my list.

WTF? she's is the devil leading this k.k music "revolution" along with Kurt D.

Ek swem in die baai ska-rumba
Dis Hentiesbaai ska-rumba
Hy lyk te fraai ska-rumba titi joy joy ska-rumba

Ek vang ‘n vis ska-rumba
Ek weet wat dit is ska-rumba
Dis ‘n blou akkedis ska-rumba titi joy joy ska-rumba

Koor:

Ararioh ska-rumba, ararioh ska-rumba,
Ararioh ska-rumba titi joy joy ska-rumba x 2

Daar teen die duin ska-rumba
Daar drink ons wyn ska-rumba
En die koppe pyn ska-rumba titi joy joy ska-rumba

Just that is enough to show EVERYTHING that is wrong with these people.

I wish i can take these lyrics, go back in time, and give it to my std 5 music teacher, and see what she will think of it. she'll prob tell me to "not quit my day job". :wtf:

VioletF

10-05-2011, 03:47 PM

I get what you are saying, but do not agree that the problem is isolated to SA musicians, their international counterparts are just as guilty of this. (Perhaps I could agree that a higher percentage of South African musicians make themselves guilty of this, but this then agrees to the OP's post regarding a lot of musicians following a formulae for writing songs and not coming out with anything new)

It's true that it's not just SA musicians who are guilty of this, but since the thread relates to SA music only... ;)

Personally the prevalence of crap just puts me off trying anything South African that I don't know. To me, it seems the chances are just so much greater that it will suck.

Anyway, it's another one of those "Live and let live" type of situations - don't make me listen to your crap Afrikaans doef-doef etc and I won't tell you repeatedly how much it sucks. :)

I wonder how long before zef becomes the "next great thing". So far we've got Die Antwoord and Jack Parow cashing in, that I know of. Won't be long before more of those start crawling out of the woodwork.

Xenophyl

10-05-2011, 03:54 PM

I thought we've had some good music this year. Better than international artists even.

Graham Watkins Project - Music Affair http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fcdCV3Ogl7w
Good luck - taking it easy http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jHNK_R_5mi0&feature=related
Good luck - hop on hop off http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bsYf2Nq7odQ
Jax panik - dinosaur http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MJw6xqLe8cE&feature=related
Jesse Clegg - clarity http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K1DLWXNsm8E
Lonehill estate - green pocket http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IfbwClNhCjY
Lonehill estate - technoband http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KXKCHSnqINY&feature=related

5fm gives these guys alot of show, quite nice for the industry.

Bizkit87

10-05-2011, 03:56 PM

cpu.

10-05-2011, 04:04 PM

WTF? she's is the devil leading this k.k music "revolution" along with Kurt D.

Just that is enough to show EVERYTHING that is wrong with these people.

I wish i can take these lyrics, go back in time, and give it to my std 5 music teacher, and see what she will think of it. she'll prob tell me to "not quit my day job". :wtf:

Good thing I don't sing. I'm ripping the wrong rhymes today.:) Juanita was not the best example, but every good collection need a view misses between all your hits to remind you why you like it so much.

Bizkit87

10-05-2011, 04:06 PM

Good thing I don't sing. I'm ripping the wrong rhymes today.:) Juanita was not the best example, but every good collection need a view misses between all your hits to remind you why you like it so much.

hehe, just that "THAT" song is her biggest "hit" [right?], so i don't even want to know what her misses sound like...

essene

10-05-2011, 04:08 PM

I think SA music is great. Kurt Darren is just sad, and is also only barely music. No offence Kurt but I am comparing you to the Nude Girls or the Parlotones, Freshly Ground etc.

CR34M3

10-05-2011, 04:36 PM

I don't feel SA music is dying as much as it is lacking diversity. If you like the main types of SA music (e.g. Afrikaans-pop, house/kwaito) then there's a lot to choose from -- I just feel some generes are undeveloped in SA.
One that stands out for me is post-hardcore and metalcore. I just can't find equivalents to The Used, Alexisonfire, August Burns Red, Protest The Hero, etc. in SA music.

Pooky

10-05-2011, 10:44 PM

Bear in mind that although now based in America, Dave Matthews is from SA as well!

GreGorGy

11-05-2011, 07:22 AM

Its weird, I used to like his shows, but loathed him. The night zoo was ridiculously cool, uncle pauls bed time stories ftw!
Anyways, he started to get really annoying for me at live shows and clubs. I actually wanted to belt him trying to force everyone at doors to go down on their haunches for nelly the elephant..he dragged it out for ages.
Cant deny he did a lot for SA rock, but i just dont like the guy

The Doors. Amazing. It confirms my suspicion. Many of the Doors old school (Marshall St) and even early Edenvale crowd feel the exact same way. And I was no excption. Until I was banned and went a few months without any metal DJing at all and someone asked me the same question: Why? What'd he do? and I realised those days were long gone and while his antics may have been somewhat pretentious at the time, at least he was giving the music airplay on the radio.

And well done on mentioning the Narrow. Now, who remembers Stingray?

Mila

11-05-2011, 07:45 AM

Ai. Come on - we all know you love Zef - you're from Brakpan after all :D

:mad:

Freestate

:mad:

:D I could not stand boknaaipan. I exported the BF we now live on the otherside of "die boerewors lyn"

BrokenRSA

11-05-2011, 08:30 AM

There's a lot of great SA bands out there. Watch MK on DSTV, they're doing a lot to promote local music.

Bizkit87

11-05-2011, 11:37 AM

There's a lot of great SA bands out there. Watch MK on DSTV, they're doing a lot to promote local music.

you must be joking right?

they promote "certain" SA music, [mostly k.k bands if you ask me].

They lost all credibility when they started playing Kurt Darren, Nicholas Louw, and all the other crap you hear on 5fm and Jacaranda.

I will admit, they were awesome when they were still MK89. but since the "name" change, they suck...

TJ99

11-05-2011, 11:50 AM

All ignorant twits: Afrikaans is a language. Not a genre. For the millionth time.

There are awesome types of music and then there's the **** Kurt Darren and Alkoholis Louw spew out, the bekkie bokkie chocolates crap. As with every language, the pop is ****ty but then you also get the good stuff.

Need I remind you what language Justin Bieber, Lady Gaga or Jessica Black sing in? (Clue : not afrikaans)

hawker

11-05-2011, 11:51 AM

SA has quality music!!

-Zebra and Giraffe
-aKing
-***ofpolisiekar
-Van Coke Kartel
-Jax Panik
-Plush (awesome, awesome, awesome band!)
-Locnville (not too bad live)
-Isonchronous (AMAZING)
-Tidal Waves
-Parlotones
-Die Heuwels Fantastics
-Thieve
-Chromium
-The Narrow
-Seether (formerly Saron Gas)

To name a few, quality bands.

absynth

11-05-2011, 11:52 AM

Parlotones is more like corporate rock.................................meaning...... ..............being sponsored by Big Companies and promoting products.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gJOBE2DcOHM

Imagine...

11-05-2011, 12:22 PM

One band I ACTUALLY CANNOT STAND to listen to is The Parlotones. They are so awful.

I agree with you on something!

2scaly4j0o

11-05-2011, 12:38 PM

or people have finally started to realise what most of us have know for years, its k@k music! and they have become tired of your "selfde pap, ander sous" cd's

Could not have said it better myself.

UnUnOctium

11-05-2011, 12:44 PM

I think last year was one of the best for SA music. Very good quality compared to previous years. Ofcourse, there were acts which spoiled it (yes, Parlotones and Locnville to mention a few) but overall, significant improvement. I think this might be the 20th post. ;)

syntax

11-05-2011, 12:50 PM

The Doors. Amazing. It confirms my suspicion. Many of the Doors old school (Marshall St) and even early Edenvale crowd feel the exact same way. And I was no excption. Until I was banned and went a few months without any metal DJing at all and someone asked me the same question: Why? What'd he do? and I realised those days were long gone and while his antics may have been somewhat pretentious at the time, at least he was giving the music airplay on the radio.

And well done on mentioning the Narrow. Now, who remembers Stingray?

I havent been to the doors in a while, but i do miss it. Nothing like deftones my own summer or chevelle - comfortable liar to open the dance floor and get you in a killer mood!
Barney was a legend, but i think he got a little full of himself!! And his obsession with the nude girls (springbok that is) was a bit much..

SA has quality music!!

-Zebra and Giraffe
-aKing
-***ofpolisiekar
-Van Coke Kartel
-Jax Panik
-Plush (awesome, awesome, awesome band!)
-Locnville (not too bad live)
-Isonchronous (AMAZING)
-Tidal Waves
-Parlotones
-Die Heuwels Fantastics
-Thieve
-Chromium
-The Narrow
-Seether (formerly Saron Gas)

To name a few, quality bands.

They...are EPIC...just EPIC

BrokenRSA

11-05-2011, 01:16 PM

you must be joking right?

they promote "certain" SA music, [mostly k.k bands if you ask me].

They lost all credibility when they started playing Kurt Darren, Nicholas Louw, and all the other crap you hear on 5fm and Jacaranda.

I will admit, they were awesome when they were still MK89. but since the "name" change, they suck...
Sure, but there's still more promoting of local music that you don't see on any other local channels. I'm sure the MK Awards show was more entertaining then the upcoming SAMAs will be.

Ultimately, if you really want to see good bands, you have to go out to venues where these bands play live.