Fines update a call away

I didn''t get a reply :(

Is this limited to Vodacom cellphones only?
 
Well isn't THIS a clever way for a State to gather up citizens mobile telephone numbers (under the guise of being helpful) - and have the previously private cellnumbers, now directly linked to ID numbers - for better cross-referencing for whatever Gov Dpt or Intelligence Service wants to go snooping or eavesdropping or even tracking the citizen down, in the future.

Who wants to give any State the ability to see within a few meters, EXACTLY where you are, if they want to find you?
 
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"Motorists will not be able to argue that they were not aware there were outstanding warrants because the system will show they lodged a query."
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Exactly why I for one wont be using this service.
 
Also got no reply , and this is from a vodacom phone ( our works standby phone :p ) . Typical
 
Users will send their identity numbers to 36,997 at a cost of R5 a query. They will then be sent a password which they will send to the same number and any information on outstanding traffic fines will be sent to their cellphones.

2Big Mobile spokesman Mokgatle Maesela said the system was secure and no one would be able to access an individual's information.
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It bothers me that several 'private' organisations have links to our details :eek: . FNB has our voter registration details and you can pay traffic fines with them too. Another private company, Belstow, manages the fines and runs a site where you can see the pictures taken of the offence. More recently it was the school results system with SMSs.

Just who gives permission for them to hold this data and what controls are in place to stop them sending us targeted SPAM or junk mail (ala Vodacon and the 'Yebo Millionair saga')? Vodacon says Yebo is a separate business, Yebo says it is part of Voda but doesn't explain how it got our numbers! Are we in for the same roundabout ride??:rolleyes:

Besides, R5 seems expensive - how does it compare to the existing SMS number?
 
It's R10. You send your ID, they reply with a password, you then RE-SEND the password.

R5 for sending your ID, must be another R5 for sending the password.

But as Myrrdin Quoted, they'll use it against you in court, also that they can now track you, via your phone. This is just very niice.
 
Daaru said:
It's R10. You send your ID, they reply with a password, you then RE-SEND the password.
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Apart from the obvious (another greedy way to make extra money): What's the point (or should I say the 'rationale') in doing this, as surely they can reliably identify that the original request came from your cellphone anyway? Is it possible to forge the 'sender' number in an SMS?
 
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Apart from the obvious (another greedy way to make extra money): What's the point (or should I say the 'rationale') in doing this, as surely they can reliably identify that the original request came from your cellphone anyway? Is it possible to forge the 'sender' number in an SMS?
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You have two choices....

1) One time info sms the password
2) every month (@ R5 a message) sms Yes
 
They have no proof that the phone you sent your ID from is yours, or that it wasnt even someone else sending your ID from their phone etc etc

This would be a clever way for criminals to thwart the law - if they suspect that their activities could be monitored then they could just SMS the ID number of anyone else, and then the police would think 'ag no it was the wrong guy all along'.

There is no way that this could be used against one legally in a court of law.
 
The Ekurhuleni system seems to be up and running - why am I not receiving any SMSs? And I'll probably be charged. Bugger that, next time I check online...
 
The rule is to never pay any fine that they cannot prove you ever received. So dont use any system or anything. You must sign for a fine otherwise they cant prove it. If you ever get caught in road block, then chances are they only know about half the fines you owe. Then you just pay that. They would propably make so many mistakes anyway that you would still get away with it. I love S.A. We dont have to pay fines. It is wonderfull. Remember.... SPEED KILLS
 
Who actually wants to find out if they have fines or warrents outstanding?

By using the service you only stand to loose as they get your cellphone number, "proof" you know of the fines / warrants as well as the charges they levy on you. This information should be freely available to the individual.

It would be a great way though (If you don't care about your privacy) of allowing a portal for car rental agencies to check on people that make use of their services, or employers wanting to hire a driver, or insurance companies .... the list goes on.

This seems not to make sense to me or am I missing something. Is it maybe because we live in South Africa and previously disadvantaged persons, because of being denied education of course- are stupid enough to use it. Mmmmm makes you think.
 
And so we are dupped into thinking that they're being helpfull. Lets do a bit of maths;

Yesterday on the radio, they mentioned something like 2000 enquiries per minute. Thats 2000*R5=R10000 per minute. Lets be fair and assume that everyone will only do an enquiry during office hours, ok, ok lets make it 10 hours we all work longer hours than normal...:-) So that's 60*10*R10000=R6000000...

Ya, you got that right, that's 6 million rands for one day...!!! At that rate, they only have to have us enquire about our fines, and not even bother about collecting them...
 
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Well got my reply late last night... don't bother with the service it is the exact same as the info you can get on www.joburg.oeg.za. It only shows warrants and summons not fines. (They don't really want you to find out where they trap to soon as they will loose revenue)
 
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