Sanral names Western Cape toll bidder

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http://www.timeslive.co.za/local/2011/10/11/sanral-names-western-cape-toll-bidder

Sanral has named its preferred bidder for the N1-N2 Winelands highway toll project, despite a legal challenge by Cape Town city over the project.

The SA National Roads Agency Limited (Sanral) said on Tuesday it had selected Protea Parkways Consortium (PPC) as the preferred bidder. It estimated the project would cost around R10 billion.

The city has applied to the Cape High Court to declare whether there was a dispute with Sanral over the introduction of the toll road.

Sanral intended starting construction of proposed toll roads on the N1 and N2 in February. In a statement the agency said the PPC Consortium comprised a variety of private investors and partners to the South African government and included a team of "highly qualified contractors".

"The estimated project cost as proposed by the preferred bidder is in the order of R10 billion," Sanral said.

Construction of the 175km project would take around three years.

"The N1/N2 Winelands toll project will increase road capacity, improve safety and offer cost savings in terms of lower vehicle running costs and less time spent on the road," Sanral said.

The city was however concerned about the socio-economic impact tolling would have on Cape Town and issued papers applying for an interdict preventing Sanral from taking further steps.
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We don't want it, we don't need it.

So why is it being forced on us - ( the bold part may be a clue...)
 
You should really highlight the unsolicited proposal part.

So this bid arrives in someone's office with a set of 4x4 keys hanging from it. (Don't laugh - seen that happen)
 
The way this country is going we'll soon be paying tax on peeing.
 
Haha suck it Cape Town! We shouldn't have to suffer alone :D
 
eh that's Socialism in a nutshell.

The inherent vice of capitalism is the unequal sharing of blessings; the inherent virtue of socialism is the equal sharing of miseries.

Sir Winston Churchill

daveza said:
http://www.timeslive.co.za/local/2011/10/11/sanral-names-western-cape-toll-bidder

We don't want it, we don't need it.

So why is it being forced on us - ( the bold part may be a clue...)
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Come now you should be embracing it with boundless enthusiasm. It's another tax after all.

I'm beginning to doubt your 'progressive' credentials :erm:
 
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Goverment needs money.. so guess what , instead of creating jobs (which they have no clue how to do, with chasing away foreign invesment).. they gonna tax the sh*t out of us all "advantaged" working class people (taxis get exluded from the tolls). So only the small amount of population will be taxed again.. Nice.

Screw the inflasion , price hikes etc that this will cause... goverment wants to fill up their gravy train...
 
Many of us barely scrape by as it stands. With this I will see many more going under. Congratulations you morons keep bankrupting the tax payers then see who pays for your luxury German cars

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warchylde said:
Many of us barely scrape by as it stands. With this I will see many more going under. Congratulations you morons keep bankrupting the tax payers then see who pays for your luxury German cars

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They don't care. Goverment cares for only the top elite in the ANC. Anyone else outside (even their voters).. get shafted. Yet they vote for them, and they will be hard hit with price increases etc.

All these toll roads/taxes are just a way to keep the gravy train going.
 
If the ANC was currently in charge of the Western Cape I can assure you NO court challenge would be in the offing in regards to SANRAL and these infernal Toll Roads?

A Toll Road must be the most unfair system of taxing road users for many reasons, the most obvious one being it is area specific.
Some people may not be aware that Car Licences are double in the Western Cape compared to what they are elsewhere, the purpose of this was to specifically help with the upkeep of our roads.

The only fair way of taxing road users is with the fuel levy as you pay only according to what you use. The question begs as to what happens to these fuel levies and from what I read and hear the money just goes into the big pool with all other monies and that is wrong. Government has become reliant on this money to drive the economy but now looks for alternative solutions to keep our roads in order. I do not trust what SANRAL does and the whole thing should be disbanded. Our fuel levy money should be distributed equally to the 9 provinces or something along those lines.
 
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BTTB said:
The question begs as to what happens to these fuel levies and from what I read and hear the money just goes into the big pool with all other monies and that is wrong. Government has become reliant on this money to drive the economy but now looks for alternative solutions to keep our roads in order. I do not trust what SANRAL does and the whole thing should be disbanded. Our fuel levy money should be distributed equally to the 9 provinces or something along those lines.
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It goes to subsidise the taxis. Remember about 10 years ago.. taxis blocked the N1 here in JHb due to high petrol price (R4/l) at that time. When last did you see them strike/block roads due to R10/l petrol price?
 
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http://www.iol.co.za/news/south-africa/western-cape/tolls-the-road-to-job-creation-sanral-1.1155800

The creation of toll roads would help to create thousands of jobs for residents and improve the condition of Cape Town’s most vital roads, the South African National Road Agency Limited (Sanral) says.

The agency is planning to establish a R10 billion toll project on the N1 and N2, involving 175km.

This would include a 105km stretch on the N1 between the Old Oak Interchange and Sandhills, and a 70km section of the N2, from west of Swartklip to Bot River.

Construction on the project would start in the middle of next year, with pedestrian bridges being built, roads widened and lanes added to the freeways.

The City of Cape Town is strongly opposed to the project.
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Building a bridge to Robben Island will also create jobs but we need that as much as we need toll roads.
 
Check out the Namibian Roads Authority website and page through to their mission statement and overview and compare that to SANRAL.
The first thing you will read on the Namibian website is the fact it is a non-profit organisation and there you need to read no further as here lies the problem with SANRAL as to whatever it is or stands for. Is SANRAL really working for us at the end of the day?

I recently spent 3 weeks in Namibia and drove a total of 7200Km leaving and returning to Cape Town. I will state that the South African roads between Cape Town and Namibia are well maintained and in good condition and are reasonably wider compared to Namibia. Who do we give credit to for that, probably the Provincial Authorities?
Anyway my point is the Namibian roads are maintained on an even basis, by this I mean no matter where you drive in Namibia, the tar and dirt roads are all equally maintained and here lies the point of what I am trying to say, here in South Africa, how many different Authorities each contribute to maintaining our roads? Your local authority, your provincial authority and also from a national level, now also including SANRAL. Is this just not too much to maintain and keep track of. Do these different levels of "Government" even communicate properly. We have one Authority taking SANRAL to court, so I rest my case with that statement.

Namibia has a population of just 3 million people, South Africa has 60 million or more, yet Namibia with obviously less resources and people can maintain their roads which by comparison have longer stretches between towns than our roads. The Namibians aren't looking to Toll their people, plus their fuel is almost a Rand/Dollar cheaper than ours and with their 3 million people they are able to maintain many thousands of kilometres of roads, both dirt and tar and many instances mostly dirt roads.
 
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And sink millions of people into more debt, increase inflation, increase cost of living , decrease spending bec people can't afford to buy stuff anymore which will lead to job losses..
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which results in more people locked into dependency and more votes for the ANC
 
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