Sentech calls for 150 GB local ADSL cap

In its ADSL Draft Regulation submission to ICASA (Independent Communications Authority of South Africa) the wireless broadband provider Sentech has asked for a minimum local cap of 150 GB and a minimum international cap of 50 GB.
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Minimum 50Gb international cap. That's more like it.
 
oh the CAPS are great if they get it, however Broadband would have to be affordable to everybody before that 150gig cap would be viable. 50Gig international UNSHAPED as a minimum, now we're talking!
 
Economic Problem!

The population demographic in this county is not condusive to mass broadband. Out of our 45million people, lets start with how many have houses, because i doubt there is dsl provision for shacks.

Then lets cut the list further down to people that have electricity.

Then further, people who have an interest in technology

Then further, people that have a computer.

Then further, people who need access for more than email.

Then further, people who are willing to pay that amount.

The whole moral of the story is that if you have access at work, and your children have access at school, then there is perhaps less demand.

The only way to get dramatic broadband penetration into south african homes is to seriously bring the price down. I mean seriously.

I think the cost of doing business must come down, i don't think cheap broadband will uplift our people as much as cheaper phone calls.

The telephone is still a primary means of doing business in our country. So telecommunications accross the board should be cheaper.

I support high caps though, why limit us when we pay so much?
 
"The population demographic in this county is not condusive to mass broadband. Out of our 45million people, lets start with how many have houses, because i doubt there is dsl provision for shacks."

Then lets cut the list further down to people that have electricity.
/Lets make sure that less and less people live in shacks and have electricity

Then further, people who have an interest in technology
/If I work for a earth moving company can I not have an e-mail address to further my business?

Then further, people that have a computer.
/PC's for home use are on the uptake, they are getting cheaper, faster and more accessible. Unfortunately we do have a portion of our population that might never have access to these facilities.

Then further, people who need access for more than email.
/How about a website describing the products I sell, perhaps even a portal so that people can order my products without having to be situated close to a major area, thereby further improving my local industry, despite the size of it. Technical support, online studies, research, homework, etc etc


Then further, people who are willing to pay that amount.
/Ahh a valid point, see all of the above and ask why South Africans are being robbed.

We need to address the problem, not avoid it. Shall we just sit back untill 2020 sometime and then start thinking about where it all went wrong?
 
http://mybroadband.co.za/vb/showthread.php?t=37489&highlight=mbeki

Mlambo-Ngcuka, tasked with coming up with a plan to grow the economy at 6% annually, this week announced a plan to roll out a wireless broadband network in conjunction with telecoms parastatal Sentech.
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Sentech think that local cap should be 150 gig and international should be 50 gig.

Sentech are about to roll out a national broadband network.

Why would a company call for caps that large if they weren't planning on offering it themselves? I could be reading this wrong, but if I were Telkom, I'd take a seriaasss look at the competition :)
 
kifoth said:
http://mybroadband.co.za/vb/showthread.php?t=37489&highlight=mbeki



Sentech think that local cap should be 150 gig and international should be 50 gig.

Sentech are about to roll out a national broadband network.

Why would a company call for caps that large if they weren't planning on offering it themselves? I could be reading this wrong, but if I were Telkom, I'd take a seriaasss look at the competition :)
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Sentech may very well have already negotiated with the SNO for cheaper interconnection costs. If so, hamba Telkom
 
I would love to hear the excuses that Lulu and steve1,4gb come up with in response to this article
 
To quote PJ O'Rourke...

1. You spend your money on yourself. You're motivated to get the thing you want most at the best price. This is the way middle-aged men haggle with Porsche dealers.
2. You spend your money on other people. You still want a bargain, but you're less interested in pleasing the recipient of your largesse. This is why children get underwear at Christmas.
3. You spend other people's money on yourself. You get what you want but price no longer matters. The second wives who ride around with the middle-aged men in the Porsches do this kind of spending at Neiman Marcus.
4. You spend other people's money on other people. And in this case, who gives a s**t?
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Sounds like Sentech are about to spend a lot of government's money on giving us broadband :D
 
daysleeper said:
The population demographic in this county is not condusive to mass broadband. Out of our 45million people, lets start with how many have houses, because i doubt there is dsl provision for shacks.

Then lets cut the list further down to people that have electricity.

Then further, people who have an interest in technology

Then further, people that have a computer.

Then further, people who need access for more than email.

Then further, people who are willing to pay that amount.

The whole moral of the story is that if you have access at work, and your children have access at school, then there is perhaps less demand.

The only way to get dramatic broadband penetration into south african homes is to seriously bring the price down. I mean seriously.

I think the cost of doing business must come down, i don't think cheap broadband will uplift our people as much as cheaper phone calls.

The telephone is still a primary means of doing business in our country. So telecommunications accross the board should be cheaper.

I support high caps though, why limit us when we pay so much?
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True. Across the board cuts in telecoms prices should become a reality. We all know we are being smoked by Telkom. That is why penetration of fixed line telecoms in the SA market is lower than it should be.
 
Moederloos : Well, Sentech dont have access to SAT-3 and neither will the SNO (as far as I know). The SNO will have to buy bandwidth via Telkom, paying the normal price untill EASSy is completed (In which Sentech is an owner)

So I am guessing that they will implement those caps once EASSy is completed (and for publicity, they are calling on Telkom to provide bandwidth at the neccessary prices, so that they can provide those caps now)
 
150GB seems a bit sensationalist for my liking given that Sentech themselves will only tolerate 40GB (local & international).
I also think that 150/50GB as a minimum local/international cap is way in excess of what would be considered acceptable for normal home users. (excepting the leachers). Maybe they're taking an "aim for the moon, hit the stars" approach?

As with all things in SA broadband, nothing is changing on the ground - all of the action is happening in the hot air atmosphere.
 
lewstherin said:
150GB seems a bit sensationalist for my liking given that Sentech themselves will only tolerate 40GB (local & international).
I also think that 150/50GB as a minimum local/international cap is way in excess of what would be considered acceptable for normal home users. (excepting the leachers). Maybe they're taking an "aim for the moon, hit the stars" approach?

As with all things in SA broadband, nothing is changing on the ground - all of the action is happening in the hot air atmosphere.
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I bet you just LOVE telkom, i bet your bed & bath sheets have the logo on them, YES? :D
but then again, you're not from South Africa anymore, so why even bother posting your 2c worth!
 
At least Sentech looks like it wants to offer more to consumers.
 
There shoulnt be a cap, there should be a price for Speed on the network - would make alot more sense. People won't sign up because of the bad prices, and the limitations. This is exactly why most people are still on Dialup. One of the main reasons i'm no longer on dialup is because of the costs involved + disconnections that raises the costs. Broadband is simply more viable as you don't get raped by telkom's reconnection charges!

One FLAT fee for Access + Speed. NO cap. However what Sentech is calling for is acceptable for now to get us inline with the world shoudl the price be right!
 
lewstherin said:
Maybe they're taking an "aim for the moon, hit the stars" approach?
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Maybe they're trying to spook Telkom?

Although I still think things are starting to look up (read the 'Phumzile tackles Telkom' article). But like JStrike says, it all depends on what happens with SAT3
 
LabAnimal : There is no need to attack lewstherin. His view is perfectly justified and in, in my view, correct.
 
daysleeper said:
The population demographic in this county is not condusive to mass broadband. Out of our 45million people, lets start with how many have houses, because i doubt there is dsl provision for shacks.

Then lets cut the list further down to people that have electricity.

Then further, people who have an interest in technology

Then further, people that have a computer.

Then further, people who need access for more than email.

Then further, people who are willing to pay that amount.

The whole moral of the story is that if you have access at work, and your children have access at school, then there is perhaps less demand.

The only way to get dramatic broadband penetration into south african homes is to seriously bring the price down. I mean seriously.

I think the cost of doing business must come down, i don't think cheap broadband will uplift our people as much as cheaper phone calls.

The telephone is still a primary means of doing business in our country. So telecommunications accross the board should be cheaper.

I support high caps though, why limit us when we pay so much?
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Most of the lower class people won't bother with the broadband or even a fixed line (nm about a PC) and usually opt out for a cellphone instead b/c:

1) Telkom makes it too expensive to afford a line
2) Broadband infrastructure doesn't exist for them.
3) There's no incentive for them to use a fixed line considering the above points.

Telkom hasn't even invested in wireless options in these areas, just a bunch of promise-talk (b/c that's what it is to get people off your back).

Telkom logic for you: We won't invest in rural areas b/c people can't pay.
Truth: People can't pay because it's so bloody expensive!

Telkom logic: We can't lower ADSL pricing b/c there aren't enough users yet.
Truth: There's no explosive uptake (like other countries) because it's to bloody expensive!
 
JStrike said:
LabAnimal : There is no need to attack lewstherin. His view is perfectly justified and in, in my view, correct.
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JStrike - nobody's attacking anybody, there is no fist fight or flamewar on the horizon. am i also not entitled to my 2c worth ?

considering what he has said - i don't have to agree with it, and it doesnt necessary make us enemies as there might be many other things we might agree on.

However, i would love Telkom Toilet paper, its so fitting to whipe my @ss with them!
 
cheaper and bigger cap would make me able to sign up.

even thing less then 512k is just rediculess. 3g cap - i do that with a modem easily. we have medium band in RSA not broad band.

50g int good start. 50% price drop even better. uncapped which way telkom should go. rather forgetting bout their lamb chops and godlike salaries - they should employ people with decent salaries and proper services.

maybe one day we can get service as fast as they debit or cut your access.

sno == product of the threesome gov+telkom+icasa. hopefully more than just a hope.

Ryu
 
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