Invest in SA, says Mbeki

MaD

Expert Member
Joined
Nov 5, 2003
Messages
4,929
Reaction score
16
Yes! Come and invest in a country that doesn't have enough electricity for its businesses and industry. Come and invest in a country with of the most expensive telecommunications costs in the world!

What will happen if people DO start investing in SA, and all sit without electricity?

Invest in SA, says Mbeki
February 27, 2006

By Alide Dasnois

Pretoria - President Thabo Mbeki has urged business to invest in South Africa to ensure the success of the accelerated and shared growth initiative (Asgisa).

"A lot of Asgisa is driven by a higher rate of investment in the economy ... When you talk about different economic sectors, whether it is tourism or business process outsourcing, investment must come from the private sector."

In an interview with Business Report, Mbeki said the government intended to talk to business in each sector to find out what the government should contribute to growth.

"And government must do whatever is required. But it is not government that is going to invest in hotels and in taxis from Johannesburg International Airport to Johannesburg, so we need to engage business with regard to these higher rates of investment."

The labour movement had also been invited to contribute to development through the joint initiative on priority skills acquisition (Jipsa), a joint business-labour-government unit set up in terms of Asgisa.

Jipsa will identify urgently needed skills and find solutions to shortages, including special training, bringing retirees or South Africans abroad back into the labour market, and recruiting immigrants if necessary.

"We want to engage all the social partners in each of the specific areas in ways which are specific to each of the areas," Mbeki said.



On import-parity pricing, Mbeki said: "We are attending to this."
Taking steel as an example, he said: "If you bring down the cost of steel to South African manufacturing you have a very big possibility of expanding the metallurgical sector.

"We are importing nails from the rest of the world - how come?"
He said it should be possible to create small firms employing half a dozen people to manufacture nails.

The question would then arise of the application of bargaining council agreements between employers and employees to small business.

"Should these small producers be bound by the agreement with the steel and engineering industry or is there a possibility of varying it?"
Citing the example of the successful outsourcing by a mining company of its fencing contracts to a small business that had now grown, Mbeki said the development of small and medium business was a key part of Asgisa and big business could help.

Public funds could be set aside for the development of small business, "but that incubation process could never be done by the civil service ... they don't know anything about making fences".

He said: "Even if the government provides the funds, the capital and all that, the interaction with people who actually do this work is necessary."
 
MaD said:
Yes! Come and invest in a country that doesn't have enough electricity for its businesses and industry. Come and invest in a country with of the most expensive telecommunications costs in the world!

What will happen if people DO start investing in SA, and all sit without electricity?
*Cough* *Cough*

Maybe he means investing in the rest of the country and ignoring the Cape? :p
 
Yawn ... you lot must have missed the billions of rands allocated to Eskom by the govt just for infrastructure.
 
tibby.dude said:
Yawn ... you lot must have missed the billions of rands allocated to Eskom by the govt just for infrastructure.
Years too late unfortunately
 
tibby.dude said:
Yawn ... you lot must have missed the billions of rands allocated to Eskom by the govt just for infrastructure.
Yeah - a day late and a dollar short as they say.
 
Do not Privatise Eskom!

bwana v.8 said:
Yeah - a day late and a dollar short as they say.
Yep.
Apparently they claim that they did not want to put in any more Power Stations as the new Government post 1994 wanted to Privatise Eskom.
I seriously hope that they do not privatise Eskom. We have seen first hand what that achieves in our Country with Telkom.
At least when I pay my Electricity Bill even if it is high, the money will be used for the day to day running of Eskom and the development of the nation and not go into some shareholders pocket.

And you know what, I don't really care if Eskom brings electricity to the whole nation at my expense.
At least those people when it happens might be able to get broadband through some or other wireless connection as they will have power to do so?:)
 
Last edited:
Scooby_Doo said:
You do know we have some of the cheapest electricity in the world?
Cool - can you point me to a list? Love to see those rankings.
 
Kazakhstan is the cheapest on that list if I am reading it right?
South Africa second?
No other African country is listed and there could be a discrepancy with the conversion of Rands into Dollars?
 
Last edited:
BTTB said:
Kazakhstan is the cheapest on that list if I am reading it right?
South Africa second?
No other African country is listed and there could be a discrepancy with the conversion of Rands into Dollars?

I can't find more recent data but Eskom is indeed one of the cheapest electricity producers but that is mainly due to our abundant supply of coal more than anything else.
 
BTTB said:
Kazakhstan is the cheapest on that list if I am reading it right?
South Africa second?
No other African country is listed and there could be a discrepancy with the conversion of Rands into Dollars?
The exchange rate has certainly changed in the past 5 years.
 
BTTB said:
Kazakhstan is the cheapest on that list if I am reading it right?
South Africa second?
No other African country is listed and there could be a discrepancy with the conversion of Rands into Dollars?
It's basically because all our electricity (90%) comes from coal. Coal is a very cheap source of energy (disregarding the socioeconomic costs) compared to Nuclear-, Gas- or Oil fired power stations.

South Africa also has the largest coal fired power stations in the world. This leads to a low cost per MW due to economies of scale and so Eskom are able to provide electricity at a price below that of most of the rest of the world.
 
Rkootknir said:
It's basically because all our electricity (90%) comes from coal. Coal is a very cheap source of energy (disregarding the socioeconomic costs) compared to Nuclear-, Gas- or Oil fired power stations.

South Africa also has the largest coal fired power stations in the world. This leads to a low cost per MW due to economies of scale and so Eskom are able to provide electricity at a price below that of most of the rest of the world.
KENDAL POWER STATION
 
BTTB said:
Yep, Kendal is the largest. If you take a look at the electricity generation capacity of coal power stations in the rest of the world, it's mostly around 1900MW per station. In SA most of the power stations are 3200MW and upward which is where Eskom's advantage comes from I think.
 
Rkootknir said:
Yep, Kendal is the largest. If you take a look at the electricity generation capacity of coal power stations in the rest of the world, it's mostly around 1900MW per station. In SA most of the power stations are 3200MW and upward which is where Eskom's advantage comes from I think.
I think we need to acknowledge that a lot of progress was made prior to 1994.
Look at the quantity of Power Stations at Eskom's disposal.
Eskom certainly has a significant amount of Generating Power.
Just sad that only now the Government is investing money into new Power Stations when clearly the writing has been on the wall for quite some time.
It takes years to get a Power Station up to full working capacity. In the case of Kendal it took 11 years before all the units were completed.
 
what good is "the cheapest electricity in the world" when the supply is not very consistant.
Need we forget the water shortages in the Cape, the ever rising crime and the fact that almost a third of our government has been involved in crime of some sort, be it fraud or rape (ex deputy ****head). Thats enough to make investors turn and run.
 
Of course we are the cheapest with eletricity in the world. We pay R0 for 0 KW.

0/0 R/KW. That is, like, nothing.
 
mac_mac74 said:
Thats enough to make investors turn and run.

Mittal --> ISCOR
Barclays Bank --> ABSA
TATA ---> SNO

Yep they running and turning :D.
 
Top
Sign up to the MyBroadband newsletter
X