Postbank loses R42m to cybercrime syndicate

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http://m.news24.com/news24/SouthAfrica/News/R42m-stole-in-Postbank-hijacking-20120114
Johannesburg - The national intelligence agency (NIA) has launched a high-level probe after a cybercrime syndicate stole R42m from SA Post Office financial institution Postbank over the New Year holidays, the Sunday Times reported.

The theft occurred between January 1 and January 3, and was allegedly committed by a syndicate with knowledge of the post office's information technology (IT) system.

Department of state security spokesperson Brian Dube confirmed that the theft had occurred and that the probe had been launched.

"When a government institution is compromised, the NIA will be involved and will offer its assistance," he told the newspaper.

Postbank currently holds over R4bn in deposits, and processes millions of rands in social grants throughout the year.

The bank told the newspaper that none of its customers were effected by the hacking, but declined to comment further.

The syndicate reportedly opened several Postbank accounts across the country late last year, and during the New Year holiday period gained access to a Rustenburg Post Office employee's computer and made deposits from other accounts into its own.

Over the next three days, automated teller machines (ATMs) in Gauteng, Free State and KwaZulu-Natal were used to withdraw cash from the accounts.

The incident comes three years after Postbank spent over R15m to upgrade its fraud-detection service.

An unnamed security expert told the newspaper that serious questions had to asked about Postbank's internal systems.

"The Postbank network and security systems are shocking and desperate need of an overhaul. This [theft] was always going to be a real possibility," the expert said.

How many billion were spent on it!? And they need an overhaul again.
 
Something just doesn't sound right to me here.

"Hackers" transfer 42bar of the PO's money into their own accounts. Over 3 days (just after new years nogal) said hackers draw all 42bar in cash from various ATM's... and the PO only wakes up after the fact... and then the NIA has to get involved ?

My sack! How did they find time to draw that amount of money from ATM's ? .... hmmm... maybe that's why I came across so many empty machines over new year's :rolleyes:
 
Something just doesn't sound right to me here.

"Hackers" transfer 42bar of the PO's money into their own accounts. Over 3 days (just after new years nogal) said hackers draw all 42bar in cash from various ATM's... and the PO only wakes up after the fact... and then the NIA has to get involved ?

My sack! How did they find time to draw that amount of money from ATM's ? .... hmmm... maybe that's why I came across so many empty machines over new year's :rolleyes:

I wonder on an average day what the total amount of withdrawals from atm's would be? How much money is loaded into one atm?
 
Something just doesn't sound right to me here.

"Hackers" transfer 42bar of the PO's money into their own accounts. Over 3 days (just after new years nogal) said hackers draw all 42bar in cash from various ATM's... and the PO only wakes up after the fact... and then the NIA has to get involved ?

My sack! How did they find time to draw that amount of money from ATM's ? .... hmmm... maybe that's why I came across so many empty machines over new year's :rolleyes:

To quote myself from the thread under under the IT news section:

No, but he is suggesting that them accessing 84 ATM (and thats assuming all of them have R500 000 in them and withdrew all of them empty) is a great feat. Adding to that there is a limit of how much cash (thickness of wad of cash) a ATM can push out at one time (R4000 perhaps?), so they would have had to make 100s of withdrawals at these 84 ATMs.

That means it must be a big operation too with quite a number of withdrawers.
 
I wonder on an average day what the total amount of withdrawals from atm's would be? How much money is loaded into one atm?
that's all a big secret so as not to tempt more people into changing carreers to become ATM bombers AFAIK ;)

If you do a rough calculation taking 5,000 as the max single transaction limit (I'm assuming here, but I doubt any ATM can ship out more than that in one go)
You would need to carry out 8,400 transactions to get your 42 million
...at an avg of 3min / trans you would need a total of 420 hours constant ATM operation.
Now you may have multiple people doing the withdrawals but only one withdrawal can take place at a time on a particular account at once and those people are going to have to move around a bit from ATM to ATM
 
that's all a big secret so as not to tempt more people into changing carreers to become ATM bombers AFAIK ;)

If you do a rough calculation taking 5,000 as the max single transaction limit (I'm assuming here, but I doubt any ATM can ship out more than that in one go)
You would need to carry out 8,400 transactions to get your 42 million
...at an avg of 3min / trans you would need a total of 420 hours constant ATM operation.
Now you may have multiple people doing the withdrawals but only one withdrawal can take place at a time on a particular account at once and those people are going to have to move around a bit from ATM to ATM

:eek: And the bank did not notice. Sounds fishey
 
I wonder on an average day what the total amount of withdrawals from atm's would be? How much money is loaded into one atm?

Absa has around 800k per minute (or might be 5 minutes..i cant remember, they have a graph thing at their simgos house) withdrawn from them.
 
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