Assisting ex “political fighters (terrorist) not me thank you,

Lekota was addressing business people in the presence of former president Nelson Mandela and the Ex-political Prisoners Committee (EPPC), where they asked that business "come on board to assist those who fought for this democracy.
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I didn't even know such a comittee existed.

Lekota said after the struggle for freedom most prisoners suffered setbacks because of torture and mental battering. Some even committed suicide.
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i do feel sorry for these people. i don't think whites realise how lucky the are that the same was not done to them when the black goverment took over...
 
i do feel sorry for these people. i don't think whites realise how lucky the are that the same was not done to them when the black goverment took over...
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Maybe you should ask your masters about quattro pow camp in Angola, which seems to have been conveniently forgotten about by the anc. I don't seem to recall any anc members coming forward to confess about that.
 
andres101 said:
I didn't even know such a comittee existed.


i do feel sorry for these people. i don't think whites realise how lucky the are that the same was not done to them when the black goverment took over...
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Allow me a few words on what you said and what I think people imply in posts like yours.
You can take this in different ways depending on how old you were during Apartheid. It doesn’t really matter much whether you agree or not seeing as this is my take on things and I am sticking with it. Excuse me if it seems like I am putting words in your mouth. Feel free to point out any errors.

Luck has got nothing to do with it andres101. Every avenue is used to try and give the "whites" an oversized sense of guilt for what happened in the past. The truth is that young whites have no reason whatsoever to feel guilty about anything. If you sit down around a table and try and attack my statement you will find that it is defendable from every angle. Apartheid was bad and never should have happened, but that is not the young people's business. The folks responsible for that are dead and the ones who kept it alive can speak for themselves. To say “white folks are lucky this didn't happen” sounds a lot like you are saying "it should have, and you are lucky it didn't!" in my mind. Perhaps it is true for you if you had the vote and didn't use it properly or didn't voice your opinion loud enough or perhaps you did something bad in those days.

If you are convinced that it should have happened you don’t know enough about the history of Apartheid. If you rank Apartheid anywhere near what the Nazis did in Germany during WWII you have no understanding of what happened during WWII and if you for one moment think this country would be anywhere as developed as it is today without some kind of Western influence, you don’t know enough about Africa.

The truth is we all have a cross to bear and it has got something to do with the clash of civilizations. But no matter what, Apartheid should never have happened, with that I will agree. Saying I should feel guilty just because I am white, that would be taking it too far. Should I consider myself lucky for not being tortured when the majority government came to power? I don’t think so. I never had the vote during Apartheid because I was too young. Are you seriously pointing a finger at me and my generation purely based on the luck of birth?
 
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There is no doubt that the young white South Africans are being made to "pay for the sins of the fathers".

This is our legacy, but I feel no guilt about what happened in the past ; it is now part of history.

Prosperity and happiness only comes when you let go of what is gone and concentrate on what is "on".

I will not continue to oay for the mistakes of the past, therefor I will adapt to make the most of the current environment.

Non-repentant M'lungu.
 
MyDraadloos said:
There is no doubt that the young white South Africans are being made to "pay for the sins of the fathers".

This is our legacy, but I feel no guilt about what happened in the past ; it is now part of history.

Prosperity and happiness only comes when you let go of what is gone and concentrate on what is "on".

I will not continue to oay for the mistakes of the past, therefor I will adapt to make the most of the current environment.

Non-repentant M'lungu.
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Exactly.
 
antowan said:
The truth is that young whites have no reason whatsoever to feel guilty about anything.
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Racism is wrong. Even if I didn't play a part in it, I still feel responsible.

antowan said:
To say “white folks are lucky this didn't happen” sounds a lot like you are saying "it should have, and you are lucky it didn't!" in my mind.
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No, that is not what I meant. I just feel that it could so easily have gone the other way and that we have something (peace) to be gratefull for.

I was too young to vote. I was however brought up to be non-racist. My father worked for the old (and new) goverment and I think he knew the day would come that it would count in my favour.
 
IanC said:
Why do you feel responsible when you could have in no way affected what happened?
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Just the type of person that I am. If your brother borrows money from someone and then runs away, wouldn't you feel responsible to settle his debt?
 
andres101 said:
Just the type of person that I am. If your brother borrows money from someone and then runs away, wouldn't you feel responsible to settle his debt?
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No, I am neither my brother's keeper nor his master, he is responsible for his own debt.
 
I have to agree with antowan we the young people have nothing to feel guilty about but the ANC is making sure that even the white kids under 15 still feel guilty about apartheid.

"i do feel sorry for these people. i don't think whites realise how lucky the are that the same was not done to them when the black goverment took over...
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When the black government took over a lot of white people lost their jobs and also a lot of them did commit suicide because they didnt have any hope left when they couldnt be hired anywhere because of their skin colour.

I wont feel guilty about apartheid I was to young to even remember it and the black people back then didnt even need the pass anymore.
 
I am old enough to know what happened. So some of them are committing suicide, hell so do many other people and the cops as well. They want ME to assist those that conspired and or planted landmines and bombs that killed MY KIND, small children, women and old people ,that had nothing to do with the laws or implementation there of.......they can all go to hell, they have given me nothing, what I have I got on my own.
And by the way, what is there to feel guilty about, I was in the army ,on the border, in Soweto, I was doing a job, must I now feel guilty just because I’m Afrikaans(a boer)and white. I ONLY HELP MY KIND.
 
I pay enough taxes already, I'm not willing to give these guys money. Simple, clear, concise.
 
neio said:
I pay enough taxes already, I'm not willing to give these guys money. Simple, clear, concise.
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I suppose the gvt wants us to give them jobs (preferably the BOSS positions) so that they can look you in the eye and think, hey you stupid bugger,I think I blew up your grandfather.:mad:
 
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