Buckle up your kids or go to jail - possibly for murder

Should parents who fail to buckle up kids be held criminally responsible?

  • Yes

    Votes: 18 85.7%
  • No

    Votes: 3 14.3%
  • Unsure

    Votes: 0 0.0%

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http://www.iol.co.za/lifestyle/family/parenting/buckle-up-your-kids-or-go-to-jail-1.1252691

Cape motorists could face jail if they don’t buckle up their children while on the road.

The province and the City of Cape Town want to criminally charge and prosecute motorists, including parents, caught with children not wearing seatbelts.

In cases of car crashes where there are severe injuries or death, the charges could include jail time.

In 80 percent of car crash cases treated at the Red Cross Children’s Hospital, the children were not wearing seatbelts.

CRACK DOWN ON DRIVERS

Transport MEC Robin Carlisle wants prosecutors to crack down on parents and other drivers who “fail to protect children” by buckling them up as the law requires.

“Drivers - and this includes parents - who are criminally negligent with regard to their children must understand that they could the full force of criminal law,” Carlisle said.

“More children are dying prematurely in car accidents than from any other cause.”

“Do parents leave their sanity behind when they climb into a car with their kids?”

“Between 200 and 300 children are treated each year at the Red Cross Children's Hospital for serious injuries sustained in crashes - and over 80 percent were not restrained in any way. It shows how absolutely clueless SA drivers are.

In cases where the state could prove severe negligence - like allowing a child to stand on a front seat on a highway, for example - the parent or driver could still only receive a fine, but could then carry a criminal record thereafter.

Second, in cases in which children who were not strapped in are killed or seriously injured, the actual traffic violation of not buckling a child in would become incidental. Instead, a parent or driver could be charged with one of several criminal charges: “Reckless or Negligent Driving”, “Culpable Homicide” or even - in particularly egregious cases - “Murder”.

Spurred on by the conviction of Humphreys - we are going to see more charges of murder instead of culpable homicide.

As for kids standing on the front seat, .... this legislation is way overdue.
 
This is great...way overdue as you said. Can't believe how often I see idiots driving with kids standing in the middle.
 
I actually saw this the other day and was thinking how ****ing stupid it was or whether I would just end up being a really over protective parent. This lady was driving in an old corolla or something, not the best for safety in the first place. She had 2 boys of probably about 5-7yrs and one on the front seat who was bouncing around enough that he didn't seem to be strapped in and then one kneeling on the back seat with his head partially out of the half opened window. Any decent impact and most likely both of those kids would be seriously injured.
 
Agree completely.

When in the car our daughter was in a baby seat since the day she left hospital.
 
+100 !!! It is such a horrible lesson to learn , a small thing that will take 2 secs to implement when we get into the car !

In cases of car crashes where there are severe injuries or death, the charges could include jail time.

In my opinion it should treated like drunk driving , they should not be reactive ie arrest people when they cause a accident, they should arrest them if sighted on the road already. Why wait for something to happen ?
 
Though I still wonder about the vague laws governing transport in bakkies, etc.
 
This is very def overdue....

As for "not being reactive".. exactly what would you arrest someone for when you see them on the road?
 
What happens when the the seat belt fails or actually causes the death? do we then prosecute the car companies?
 
+10,000000000! As the mother of a two week old boy I could never imagine putting mine in the car without any car seat, seat belts, etc. K@K happens and in SA K@K seems to happen a lot on our roads.

IMO people who don't put their children in car seats or seat belts are just stupid.
 
People who don't do this shouldn't be breeding to begin with. Shouldn't we address that problem first?
 
They're going to have to make a couple of examples I'm afraid - or start fining heavily. Usually the car with the kid standing on a seat is driven by a brain dead bitch mommy fixing her make-up or a retarded idiot dad talking on his cel.
 
This is an outrageous proposal. Who's blerry planet is this - the governments, or ours??!!

Safety issues aside, the government has no #$%$@ business interfering in our lives like this. I am shocked, saddened, dismayed, and profoundly opposed to this kind of law.

And puhleeze don't infer that I'm therefore opposed to safety or caution or seatbelts or strapping in kids. I'm not.

BUT I AM IMPLACABLY OPPOSED TO MAKING IT A LAW and criminalising those who don't. The issues are distinct. I don't want a Nanny-Caesar - it's just infantalises society.
 
Brilliant, what an absolutely excellent idea , lets lock them all up, lets fine them, lets punish them at every turn, lets turn them all into criminals and throw away the key. :mad:

Lets NOT , spend money on educating drivers.
Lets NOT , spend money on any health and safety campaigns.
Lets NOT , spend money educating youngsters at school to buckle up

Lets make money by fining them and punishing them.
 
People who don't do this shouldn't be breeding to begin with. Shouldn't we address that problem first?

Yes and addressing that problem FIRST will definitely sort out a truck load of other problems as well.
 
This is an outrageous proposal. Who's blerry planet is this - the governments, or ours??!!

Safety issues aside, the government has no #$%$@ business interfering in our lives like this. I am shocked, saddened, dismayed, and profoundly opposed to this kind of law.

And puhleeze don't infer that I'm therefore opposed to safety or caution or seatbelts or strapping in kids. I'm not.

BUT I AM IMPLACABLY OPPOSED TO MAKING IT A LAW and criminalising those who don't. The issues are distinct. I don't want a Nanny-Caesar - it's just infantalises society.

Brilliant, what an absolutely excellent idea , lets lock them all up, lets fine them, lets punish them at every turn, lets turn them all into criminals and throw away the key. :mad:

Lets NOT , spend money on educating drivers.
Lets NOT , spend money on any health and safety campaigns.
Lets NOT , spend money educating youngsters at school to buckle up

Lets make money by fining them and punishing them.


Those. Lets educate, lets have ads showing the consequences, that sort of thing. Let the government advise and investigate. Lets not give them power to rule over every details of our lives.
 
What happens when the the seat belt fails or actually causes the death? do we then prosecute the car companies?

Given the forces required to cause a seatbelt to kill you, just imagine where your body would be without the seatbelt on.

It reminds me of mythbusters testing the myth of a steel capped boot which could sever your toes if an object fell on the cap part with enough force. They tested it and it was true, but noted that if the cap wasn't there in the first place, the same object would do as much - if not more damage to your foot.
 
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