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A man died of renal failure at a Christian rally in the Cape Town stadium at the weekend, the Cape Times reported on Monday.

Simon Williams, 56, a pastor, had been discharged from an intensive care unit on Friday before attending the “Higher Life World Conference”, where televangelist Chris Oyakhilome was said to perform miracles and cure the sick.

It was believed another person may have died in hospital after also attending the conference.

About six other seriously ill people were rushed from the stadium to hospital on Friday evening.

Hundreds of sick and disabled people queued outside the stadium on Sunday, the last day of the conference.

According to the report, the Advertising Standards Authority ruled last year that the Christ Embassy church could not prove its pastors could perform healing miracles, and had to withdraw all such television adverts. - Sapa

http://www.iol.co.za/news/south-africa/western-cape/man-dies-at-christian-rally-1.1259109

We all know there is no divine intervention or any kind of healing going on, but yet the sick and infirm still rush in their droves to see these thieves and their closely choreographed stage show. Fair enough if the gullible believers go home with a bolstered sense of belief, but the real sick people who are desperate for help are being conned into parting with their money and even worse, made to pay for being desperate and grasping at straws with their health deteriorating or in this case, dying.

It's nothing short of disgraceful in this day and age. What kind of entertainment is this when the con man goes back to his 5 star hotel in a limo in his designer suit and Italian shoes, while the needy end up back in intensive care in a worse condition than ever?

Is it not about time these smooth talking con men were taken to court and held accountable for this kind of incident? Obviously God doesn't care enough about sick people to heal them, so surely we have to protect them from themselves through the law of the land.
 
If you check yourself out of hospital when you are in a life threatening condition then.. I dunno .. if you're dumb you must suffer.
 
According to the report, the Advertising Standards Authority ruled last year that the Christ Embassy church could not prove its pastors could perform healing miracles, and had to withdraw all such television adverts.

As opposed to all the other, legitimate miracles out there. These guys are giving the real faith healers a bad name :p

This is what irrationality gets you. If you're sick, go to a doctor. Jeebus/Brahma/Ra/Zeus isn't going to help.
 
Reports of second death at ‘healing’ rally

A Paarl father died of renal failure at Cape Town Stadium while attending a rally led by an internationally acclaimed “televangelist” – and city officials say they had to rush several seriously ill patients from the event to hospital.

There are unconfirmed reports of a second death.

It has also emerged that pastor Chris Oyakhilome, who is apparently worth some $50 million (R380m), was given a 75 percent discount by the city council on the stadium price because his Christ Embassy organisation is classifed as an NGO and is not “profit driven”.

The pastor has previously faced fraud charges.

The gathering was held over three days at the stadium, which costs a minimum of R500 000 and a maximum of R700 000 to use. Entrance to the rally was free of charge.

Mayoral committee member for tourism, events and marketing Grant Pascoe confirmed that Pastor Chris would only pay a fraction of the rental tariff because his was an NGO and a not-for-profit organisation. He had also been charged a discounted fee for the traffic service.


Based on current approved tariffs, if the maximum price had been paid, it would have cost R2.1m to use the stadium for three days.

Simon Williams, 56, himself a pastor, had been discharged from Paarl Hospital’s intensive care unit on Friday after doctors said there was nothing further they could do for him, said his daughter Lillian Lackay.

He died in the stadium while thousands of believers were attending Pastor Chris’s “Higher Life World Conference” where the pastor is said to perform miracles on the sick and paralysed.

“The fact that my father died at the event does not make Pastor Chris a lesser man of God,” said Williams’ son, Chardo Williams.

Wilfred Solomons-Johannes, head of the city’s Disaster Management team, said there were reports of a second unconfirmed death.

He said while information was sketchy, the second person might have died in hospital.

About six other seriously ill people had been rushed from the stadium to hospital late on Friday.

Smith said of the six, an end-stage terminally ill liver cancer patient had been in the most serious condition. He did not have further details.

On the third and final day of the conference on Sunday, hundreds of sick and disabled people, including children, queued for hours to be “healed”.

Many of the sick and disabled said they attended the Christ Embassy’s Healing School in Salt River last week, ahead of the conference.

Rona Smit from Elsies River said: “We had to register at the healing school and say what was wrong with us and what kind of healing we wanted. At the healing school they had church services and taught us to strengthen our belief and faith so that God would heal us.”

Shahied Benjamin from Mitchell’s Plain said he came for healing after he was left paralysed when he was shot in the neck four years ago in a robbery.

Benjamin was unaware of any of the controversial claims made against pastor Chris, but said: “He is capable of healing. I’ve seen it on TV. I am going to go up for prayer. It’s not pastor Chris, I believe it’s God that does the healing through him. To me it would be the best thing to be able to walk again.”

Pearl February brought her granddaughter, Jamie Lee Hendricks, 6, who was diagnosed with tuberculous meningitis five years ago. Jamie Lee is bound to a wheelchair as the left side of her body is completely paralysed.

“We came for healing for Jamie because we believe pastor Chris can do it, you can see he is a child of God and we have seen him do many miracles on TV,” February said.

Margaret Bellies came from Port Elizabeth so her blind son and her daughter, who has TB meningitis, could be “healed”.

Bellies said she suffered from arthritis for many years and was “healed” immediately when she attended Pastor Chris’s Night of Bliss event in Soweto last year.

Last year the Advertising Standards Authority of South Africa (Asasa) ruled that the charismatic church could not prove that its pastors could perform healing miracles and had to withdraw all such advertisements from e.tv.

The Christ Embassy is an international organisation headed by Pastor Oyakhilome with branches in Cape Town and Gauteng and several others in other countries.

On Sunday the Cape Times tried to get hold of the local Christ Embassy Church for comment. Karen Victor, a local pastor listed on a Christ Embassy website, referred queries to the church’s local branch, Christ Embassy Cape Town.

But when the Cape Times called the landline number provided, an automated voice response said the office hours were from Monday to Friday between 9am and 4pm.

The church had earlier paid R2.6m to have its 24-minute “faith healing” programme run on e.tv for 52 weeks.

The church had claimed that people could be cured of illnesses and diseases such as Aids and cancer.

The Treatment Action Campaign (TAC) lodged a complaint with Asasa in November 2009, and last Wednesday the advertising body ruled that e.tv had to remove the programme.

The TAC lodged the complaint after a woman who was on tuberculosis medication stopped her treatment when she was “cured” by the church, but subsequently died. - Cape Times

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Ok, this one is unconfirmed but make that two, provisionally.
 
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It has also emerged that pastor Chris Oyakhilome, who is apparently worth some $50 million (R380m), was given a 75 percent discount by the city council on the stadium price because his Christ Embassy organisation is classifed as an NGO and is not “profit driven”.

Geez, seems you don't have to be smart to make money, just abuse people's faith.
 
I'd say it's more suicide really... He made his own retarded choices, no-one forced him.

Surely his mental state must be taken into account? But vulnerable or gullible regardless, he was led to a place after a concerted and co-ordinated campaign of lies and deceit had led him to believe he would be cured.

I'd call it murder but point taken.
 
Possibly a form of suicide? :p Even if it was intentional.

But I'll agree the naming of this thread could have been a little better.

The headline on IOL used the word 'dies'. I changed it to killed. It was intentional.
 
Murder = do do something that you know will kill someone (intent)
Kill = if a persons action causes another do die (without intent)
suicide = to kill yourself with prior knowledge that your actions will lead to death, you jump off a bridge knowing full well it will kill you (intent to kill one self)

I would say thread is named properly. The man did die out of stupidity yes but his intent was to live, the one holding the event lied but did not intent to kill people, so it rules out murder but I wish we could hold him accountable for this.
 
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