Recruiters trying to reduce my named price

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I updated my CV on Sunday on Pnet as I am looking for new adventures and I have had some very good responses. I am currently under-paid as the lead .Net developer at my company. I have spent a year and four months working and delivering big projects for large organisations.

I have named my price and it is quite the jump from my current package but justified. Not to blow my own horn here, but my portfolio demonstrates my ability to build projects from the ground up within a team and on my own. I have facts to for the recruiters to back up my demands but some of them are trying to tie me down due to my current package.

Any advice for someone who has sold himself too short for far too long and now wants his cake so that he can eat it too? :)
 
Don't accept offers that are below what you want.
Offers from new places of employment don't have to be based on what you were earning before
 
You name your price, they take it or leave it... You get a job or you dont.
 
eehellfire said:
Don't accept offers that are below what you want.
Offers from new places of employment don't have to be based on what you were earning before
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That is what I have been telling them. Short selling myself in the past got me into all sorts of trouble. I have worked hard on my skills built up my portfolio and this time I would like to do it right. There is only one recruiter who trying to woo me to a sister company of a company that I just completed project for. They are aware of the scope and the depth of that project and have had no problems with my price.

Now there is this one lady who does not even understand my field, she thinks WPF stands for Word PerFect (lol). I do not like interviews by recruiters. I have only been to 3 interviews (with technical test - mostly fizzbuzz of all things) in my life and I got through because the person on the other side of the table understood the field. </EndRant>
 
These days companies only seem to be willing to offer you a % above what you're currently getting - its damn annoying, and a waste of time.
 
Recruiters are obviously just touching on what the market is paying for (what they think are) your level of skills. Their placement commission is usually based on a percentage of the salary you are placed for, so it's in their interest to get you as high a salary as possible.
 
Recruiters earn a percentage of your CTC when they place you. It's in their interest to get you as high a package as possible. If they're telling you to aim lower, they really don't think they'll employ you for what you want.
 
You could tell them very plainly that your price is your price and you won't go for anything less. However, the lower your price the more potential matches they can set up for you, which could be a good thing. They may be genuinely trying to help you by indicating that your price is too high.

An option would be to lower your price slightly to get more potential employers or interviews. If you find a job that matches you well and get through the interviews, then in the final interview when they make you an offer and discuss salary, negotiate the offer they make you.
 
dequadin said:
Why do the recruiters know your current package?
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They asked. :o

AniV said:
You could tell them very plainly that your price is your price and you won't go for anything less. However, the lower your price the more potential matches they can set up for you, which could be a good thing. They may be genuinely trying to help you by indicating that your price is too high.

An option would be to lower your price slightly to get more potential employers or interviews. If you find a job that matches you well and get through the interviews, then in the final interview when they make you an offer and discuss salary, negotiate the offer they make you.
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This sounds good. I was told that I could use a lower price to draw them close, secure an interview and then pounce at the right time. My buddy and I used to code for fun back in the days (still do for personal projects) and when we started doing it for money in varsity it was very hard and clients would steam roll over us. We worked our butts off for peanuts and being a bit shy and all, we avoided payment talks like the plague.

Lower charges gave us a lot of low quality clients that would ask for impossible things in relation to their "budgets".
 
eehellfire said:
Don't accept offers that are below what you want.
Offers from new places of employment don't have to be based on what you were earning before
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Nobody can afford what I want. I would be constantly unemployed if I followed this advice :D
 
Recruiters are trying to get the product they plan to sell for cheaper.
 
mezu said:
I updated my CV on Sunday on Pnet as I am looking for new adventures and I have had some very good responses. I am currently under-paid as the lead .Net developer at my company. I have spent a year and four months working and delivering big projects for large organisations.

I have named my price and it is quite the jump from my current package but justified. Not to blow my own horn here, but my portfolio demonstrates my ability to build projects from the ground up within a team and on my own. I have facts to for the recruiters to back up my demands but some of them are trying to tie me down due to my current package.

Any advice for someone who has sold himself too short for far too long and now wants his cake so that he can eat it too? :)
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I feel your pain...

Developers.Add(Hug);
 
I get annoyed when I get harassed by recruitment agencies... and they know my rate...and they still send me job specs, make me update my CV - and then only tell me I'm too expensive... :wtf:
 
xrapidx said:
These days companies only seem to be willing to offer you a % above what you're currently getting - its damn annoying, and a waste of time.
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It is standard practice, unless you are an uniquely skilled individual.

And yes, it sucks.
 
Agents are taking 20% cut of your first year salary. Greedy bastards.

So they don't have to send people to interviews and make it sound like there is a skills shortage. There is just a shortage of techies wanting to get shaffed by recruiters.
 
Screw 'em. When they asked me what I'm getting paid, I said that doesn't concern them, I'll only tell them what I want. When it got to the hiring procedure, they asked me for salary slips, bank statements and finally, an IRP5.

I said no. And I still got the job.
 
There's a saying "If you're not paying for it then you're the product".

People assume that estate agents are trying to get the best price possible, but actually they get paid WHEN/IF they get a sale so their primary motivation is to get a sale. If the seller owes 1mil to the bank and wants 1.2 for the house and only gets offered 1.1 then that's basically 100k he's losing out on but to the agent it's only a 7.5 diff and they'd rather say "accept the offer, it's a good offer, the market sucks for buyers right now, etc" and they can make 7.5% of 1.1 mil and move on.

In the recruiters case the hiring company is the client, and that's who they want to please/impress. They want to place people, not fight for you to get a higher salary. Again they make a percentage so a 2k difference to you per month is just a 2.5k once off for them. They'd rather place you and make your one months salary than not place someone and have to keep looking for another few months.
 
Ask for what you want... Also have a look at telecoms companies they don't have a problem with paying for a skill... in 2007 I wanted to move, but did not get the right offers then I got offered double my salary
 
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