Zimbabweans send R5bn home

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Cape Town - Zimbabweans in South Africa send nearly R5bn home a year through largely informal channels, it was reported on Thursday.


The Cape Times reported about 82% of this money was sent through informal channels such as friends and bus and truck drivers, according to a survey.


Even though the figure sounds like a bit of a thumbsuck, I doubt the real amount is not too far from it. And one can look at it from a couple of perspectives as well, personally I know these guys are underpaid in most instances sometimes grossly, so that amount plus more would be going to South African pockets if it were South Africans employed, thus causing a knock on positive effect on jobs, the economy, crime, etc.

But SA has far too much of a hunger for cheap labour for that to happen anytime soon, so we need to formalise this transfer as much as possible through the banks so we can at least grab some of it to stay in the economy.
 
So can we expect an increase in reports of armed robbery around the Beitbridge area? Because that's what I'd do if I was a criminal and read this article.
 
So can we expect an increase in reports of armed robbery around the Beitbridge area? Because that's what I'd do if I was a criminal and read this article.

That criminal would have to hold a LOT of busses and taxis to make it worth the risk I think
 
So can we expect an increase in reports of armed robbery around the Beitbridge area? Because that's what I'd do if I was a criminal and read this article.

There are already a ton of criminals there... and most of them are wearing the uniforms of SAPS and Customs officials.
 
So it would be worthwhile to allow those invader Zims to get residence in SA so that they can bring their families here and support them instead of sending money out?
 
But SA has far too much of a hunger for cheap labour for that to happen anytime soon, so we need to formalise this transfer as much as possible through the banks so we can at least grab some of it to stay in the economy.

And the Zimbabweans actually work instead of South Africans who would rather strike and demand than work.
 
And the Zimbabweans actually work instead of South Africans who would rather strike and demand than work.

My opinion on this is that the Zimbabweans are desperate and will work for anything and I think South Africans, for lack of a better word, exploit them.

We have a very powerful organised labour movement, that is not a bad thing IMO.
 
My opinion on this is that the Zimbabweans are desperate and will work for anything and I think South Africans, for lack of a better word, exploit them.

We have a very powerful organised labour movement, that is not a bad thing IMO.

Not really. Collin ( Zimbabwean ) A guy that helps out at our home now and again. Showed us he works hard and do not lazzzeee around and has therefore been given an increase ( After the second time he came to help our )
Where we have had to fire 4 of the previous people ( south Africans because we wanted to be good for our won people). They work hard the first day till you ask them to come back and then it goes downhill.

Collin has told me that if he does not work hard he will get a bad reputation and who will employ him then?
 
Not really. Collin ( Zimbabwean ) A guy that helps out at our home now and again. Showed us he works hard and do not lazzzeee around and has therefore been given an increase ( After the second time he came to help our )
Where we have had to fire 4 of the previous people ( south Africans because we wanted to be good for our won people). They work hard the first day till you ask them to come back and then it goes downhill.

Collin has told me that if he does not work hard he will get a bad reputation and who will employ him then?

Do you think guys like Collin get paid the prescribed minimum wage? I'm willing to bet my last Rand that the majority of Zimbabweans employed here in SA earn less than minimum wage.

So why would a South African work for less than minimum wage? Which ever way you look at we are willing to pay for cheaper labor, hence all the dudes coming over and earning R5bn. If we were all legal and employed legal staff, there would not be such an influx of people, IMO.
 
My opinion on this is that the Zimbabweans are desperate and will work for anything and I think South Africans, for lack of a better word, exploit them.

We have a very powerful organised labour movement, that is not a bad thing IMO.

I do agree that South Africans are exploiting them, but if Mugabe didn't run their country into the ground they could have stayed in Zimbabwe.

Also we have a lot of unskilled and unemployed people in South Africa. Why not pay these unemployed people the money we are paying the Zimbabweans ? At least then they will have some income. Thing is with South Africans they believe they are entitled to the job and they should be paid more than some companies can afford. Which doesn't make sense to me!

If I can only pay you for example R5.00 per hour and you demand R5.50 which I can't afford you won't take the job. But if you took the job you would have at least had some money. And the Zimbabweans are will to work for that bit of money.
 
Do you think guys like Collin get paid the prescribed minimum wage? I'm willing to bet my last Rand that the majority of Zimbabweans employed here in SA earn less than minimum wage.

So why would a South African work for less than minimum wage? Which ever way you look at we are willing to pay for cheaper labor, hence all the dudes coming over and earning R5bn. If we were all legal and employed legal staff, there would not be such an influx of people, IMO.
Collin is a builder and he is paid what he charges. And it is the same as the SA people and its more thatn the minimum wage. We decided to give him more to prevent him from finding a diffrent place to work.

People are not all evil exploiters.
 
People are not all evil exploiters.

Exactly, not all people would try and rip off another person who is desperate.
I wouldnt do it but i'm better off than most so it depends on what situation the employer is in and whether he can afford it or not.
 
At my house, it is a bit like the UN!

My daughter's nanny is from the Congo, I have a Zim lady doing ironing on Wednesdays and my regular domestic is also from Zim.
 
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