ajak
28-04-2006, 03:05 PM
http://www.iol.co.za/index.php?from=rss_News&set_id=1&click_id=&art_id=qw1146225240249B263
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kilo39
28-04-2006, 04:32 PM
Aag the farce and fiasco of the zuma trail... the state prosecutor was useless (is this the best we've got - or just the poor sap that was stuck with the job?!)
6 ministers testified she had accused them previously??!
There is no truth like an untruth. Lying is a primary method of going forward.
(since when is previous history relevant to a present trial? since when does totally unverifiable information - supposedly by men of the cloth - suddenly become - verifiable truth)
I lie therefore I am.
Sickening.
6 ministers testified she had accused them previously??!
There is no truth like an untruth. Lying is a primary method of going forward.
(since when is previous history relevant to a present trial? since when does totally unverifiable information - supposedly by men of the cloth - suddenly become - verifiable truth)
I lie therefore I am.
Sickening.
Highflyer_GP
28-04-2006, 05:33 PM
Conspiracy my arse. Shaik was found guilty of corruption, Zuma had close dealings with this man. It's time for him to face the music. In any case conspiracies normally work the other way where government officials are the conspirers, seeking to hide the truth from the public. Seems like they trying to cloak the real truth by dodging around the issue, hoping nobody would notice.
kilo39
28-04-2006, 05:56 PM
a sad, sad tale. For us. And her. And him.
nocilah
28-04-2006, 06:05 PM
who is zuma?
kilo39
28-04-2006, 06:10 PM
... the next president of SA
/edit/ him and the ANCYL - unstoppable
/edit/ him and the ANCYL - unstoppable
IzZzy
28-04-2006, 06:45 PM
Aag the farce and fiasco of the zuma trail... the state prosecutor was useless (is this the best we've got - or just the poor sap that was stuck with the job?!)
6 ministers testified she had accused them previously??!
There is no truth like an untruth. Lying is a primary method of going forward.
(since when is previous history relevant to a present trial? since when does totally unverifiable information - supposedly by men of the cloth - suddenly become - verifiable truth)
I lie therefore I am.
Sickening.
Don't bad mouth a state prosecutor before you walk a mile in their shoes. Yes some are incompetent but most of them are the most hardworking people working for a pittance. I have big respect for them.
Also, her previous history was relevent as the victim had cried foul for rape on numerous times before and the defense was arguing that this 'rape' was just another foul cry. Of course whether or not you have lied about being raped before does have some bearing on this situation but it is not the penultimate factor that will let Zuma off the hook.
6 ministers testified she had accused them previously??!
There is no truth like an untruth. Lying is a primary method of going forward.
(since when is previous history relevant to a present trial? since when does totally unverifiable information - supposedly by men of the cloth - suddenly become - verifiable truth)
I lie therefore I am.
Sickening.
Don't bad mouth a state prosecutor before you walk a mile in their shoes. Yes some are incompetent but most of them are the most hardworking people working for a pittance. I have big respect for them.
Also, her previous history was relevent as the victim had cried foul for rape on numerous times before and the defense was arguing that this 'rape' was just another foul cry. Of course whether or not you have lied about being raped before does have some bearing on this situation but it is not the penultimate factor that will let Zuma off the hook.
orbisat
28-04-2006, 07:36 PM
It is very much likely that thre is a conspiracy aganist Zuma.
Why is it that everyone who is dimsssing the conspiracy ignoring the fact that that the accuser was in direct contact with the intelligence minister.
As I see it the accuser was probably reporting on how her mission (to dicredit Zuma) was progressing.
The accuser's explaination regarding her connections with the inteligence should be dimissed and not the conspiracy theory.
Why is it that everyone who is dimsssing the conspiracy ignoring the fact that that the accuser was in direct contact with the intelligence minister.
As I see it the accuser was probably reporting on how her mission (to dicredit Zuma) was progressing.
The accuser's explaination regarding her connections with the inteligence should be dimissed and not the conspiracy theory.
ajak
28-04-2006, 07:53 PM
Don't bad mouth a state prosecutor before you walk a mile in their shoes. Yes some are incompetent but most of them are the most hardworking people working for a pittance. I have big respect for them.
Also, her previous history was relevent as the victim had cried foul for rape on numerous times before and the defense was arguing that this 'rape' was just another foul cry. Of course whether or not you have lied about being raped before does have some bearing on this situation but it is not the penultimate factor that will let Zuma off the hook.
I think she didn’t cry “foul”(spelling) when she was raped (she most probably called him a pig.:D :D
Also, her previous history was relevent as the victim had cried foul for rape on numerous times before and the defense was arguing that this 'rape' was just another foul cry. Of course whether or not you have lied about being raped before does have some bearing on this situation but it is not the penultimate factor that will let Zuma off the hook.
I think she didn’t cry “foul”(spelling) when she was raped (she most probably called him a pig.:D :D
kilo39
28-04-2006, 08:09 PM
Also, her previous history was relevant as the victim had cried foul for rape on numerous times before and the defense was arguing that this 'rape' was just another foul cry. Of course whether or not you have lied about being raped before does have some bearing on this situation but it is not the penultimate factor that will let Zuma off the hook. Amazing the number of people who were trotted out that had previously had the accusation by her against them. Some of them (did I hear 6??) church ministers... but AFAIK (and I haven't followed in excruciating detail) - none of these 'accusations' were ever in any record - purely one persons word against another. The fact they are church ministers (and there are so many of them!!) - makes me question the veracity of the whole tale. Lies, lies, and more lies.
I have nothing but respect for the prosecutor - but kemp makes mincemeat with no rebuttal.
Uum - so what is the "penultimate factor that will let zuma off the hook?"
I have nothing but respect for the prosecutor - but kemp makes mincemeat with no rebuttal.
Uum - so what is the "penultimate factor that will let zuma off the hook?"
ajak
30-04-2006, 12:03 PM
http://www.news24.com/News24/South_Africa/Zuma/0,,2-7-1840_1924685,00.html
kilo39
30-04-2006, 06:08 PM
The imminent dismissal of National Intelligence Agency's cyber unit manager Funi Madlala is believed to be part of a wider ploy to purge NIA agents perceived to be loyal to ANC deputy president Jacob Zuma.
Madlala has been asked to forward reasons why he should not be dismissed in the wake of the hoax e-mail saga that has already claimed the heads of former director-general Billy Masetlha and counter-intelligence boss Bob Mhlanga.
Madlala was suspected of being the middleman in the distribution of the so-called hoax e-mails that detailed the alleged conspiracy against Zuma and secretary-general Kgalema Mothlante Zuma is his own conspiracy. The man had unprotected sex with a known AIDS positive woman (it was the noble thing to do) - what a moron. Our future and present leaders of SA.
Madlala has been asked to forward reasons why he should not be dismissed in the wake of the hoax e-mail saga that has already claimed the heads of former director-general Billy Masetlha and counter-intelligence boss Bob Mhlanga.
Madlala was suspected of being the middleman in the distribution of the so-called hoax e-mails that detailed the alleged conspiracy against Zuma and secretary-general Kgalema Mothlante Zuma is his own conspiracy. The man had unprotected sex with a known AIDS positive woman (it was the noble thing to do) - what a moron. Our future and present leaders of SA.
craigsa
30-04-2006, 07:38 PM
Agreed Kilo.
orbisat
01-05-2006, 10:53 PM
It is possible that zuma was seduced by the accuser to that he could be charged with rape and bring an end his political career.
The corruption trial had done little to reduce his popularity among the masses so the rape charge could be seeking to do what the corruption trail has failed to do.
The corruption trial had done little to reduce his popularity among the masses so the rape charge could be seeking to do what the corruption trail has failed to do.
kilo39
02-05-2006, 01:48 AM
The corruption trial had done little to reduce his popularity among the masses so the rape charge could be seeking to do what the corruption trail has failed to do. Zuma's corruption trial is still upcoming -.
kingmonty
02-05-2006, 09:06 AM
It is possible that zuma was seduced by the accuser to that he could be charged with rape and bring an end his political career.
The corruption trial had done little to reduce his popularity among the masses so the rape charge could be seeking to do what the corruption trail has failed to do.
That is nonsense. There is no tale of seduction in this trial, Zuma (innocent or not) took the leading role in the sex.
The corruption trial had done little to reduce his popularity among the masses so the rape charge could be seeking to do what the corruption trail has failed to do.
That is nonsense. There is no tale of seduction in this trial, Zuma (innocent or not) took the leading role in the sex.