Another model, another racist tweet

[nivek]

http://www.mybroadband.co.za/photos/data/982/tshidi.JPG

Are her modeling contracts also going to cancelled?
Or are SABC 1 going to keep her? Different rules for different skin colour?

IF you ask me this is far worse than the fhm models comment

https://twitter.com/#!/tshiditee

she doesnt even have looks on her side :(
:sick: http://www.take10.co.za/show.php?id=994

[intel8080]

Wow and she deleted most of her postings ! ! ! She must have spend lots of times sorting out the mess she got into.

[Ekstasis]

I think most South Africans don't say what they really think. They'd rather stay on the safe side and move within the boundaries of virtual democracy.

[tco21]

Following the saga by having the Twitter search page for her name open. A lot less tweets then yesterday, but then again it is the weekend and in the evening.

[tco21]

I saw the producer for VuzuTV said she'll never be allowed on the channel (show?) again.

[Sinbad]

Calling someone a name is one thing. Wishing for genocide is quite another.

[HideInLight]

Classy lady. http://m.tmi.me/psXLi


We don't agree with her arrogant pretentious racist white B* behavior...She should take into acc that our President is Black,so she aint a thing #WeBlackWeRule RT @RealMusicXO: @Hasmita tshiditee @JessicaLeandra

[biometrics]

Following the saga by having the Twitter search page for her name open. A lot less tweets then yesterday, but then again it is the weekend and in the evening.

Trending now: http://trendsmap.com/local/south+africa

[boramk]

I saw the producer for VuzuTV said she'll never be allowed on the channel (show?) again.

Good.

What an idiot this person is, Leandra makes a racial slur and she thinks that by being racist it will stop racism?
At least Leandra didn't call for genocide. I can actually call this one a bitch

[HideInLight]

At this rate the government will call on a ban for the racists tool called Twitter.

[daveza]

Reality is; she's one of MANY. She was just the only dumb one to put it on twitter!"

So who's the dumb one now.

[nivek]

Tshidi Thamana ‏ @tshiditee
TWEET!!! I Will NOT Apologize for having an Opinion RT @morne5: "@nicolaasvrvo: Dear media, have a look at the ...
Wow
This one takes stupidity to a new level

[daveza]

TWEET!!! I Will NOT Apologize for having an Opinion RT

Hmmm, so Jessica can't have a racist opinion but this nobody can because she is black ?

How very..... racist.

[Haldex]

Not a fan of sinbads posts on this forum, seems I'm not a fan of his tweets too. Lol.

[R13...]

It's stupid racist cow madness out here.

[tco21]

Her tweet about not feeling apologetic will not go down well when she's in the Human Rights Court. Lack of remorse means a sterner punishment.

[Sinbad]

Not a fan of sinbads posts on this forum, seems I'm not a fan of his tweets too. Lol.

You don't think wishing for genocide is worse than name calling?

[zizebra]

She gets what she asked for,

[cbrunsdonza]

Jessica, now in black ;)

[MickeyD]

It must be the Supermoon...

[Brawler]

My goodness she is really thick.

[HideInLight]

You know what we need now?

"Big Brother SA, Twitter models edition"

[daveza]

It must be the Supermoon...

Don't tell her that, she'll complain because it's too white.

[nivek]

Jessica, now in black ;)

Well, the ones a real model, other ones a self proclaimed model

[biometrics]

Tweet deleted. Feeling the heat ...

[Knyro]

Tweet deleted. Feeling the heat ...


Not hating but what she did is wrong,We should appreciate each other not judge and prejudice our fellow humas.RT @ClaysonMonyela:tshiditee This is wrong. Hate speech! @Mabine_Seabe let's help this fellow South African.

Damage control mode activated :rolleyes:

/popcorn

[kilobits]

Awww... ducking 4 cover;

http://i0.simplest-image-hosting.net/picture/tshtsh.jpg

[biometrics]

Awww... ducking 4 cover;

Lol, just saw your pic coming up on trendsmap.

[milomak]

Is she even famous?

Not that that justifies her comments.

[Fudzy]

Publicity fail, didn't she realise what making stupid racist comments costed the real FHM model?

[daveza]

Is she even famous?

Only to herself.

And too much of a nobody even to become infamous.

[kilobits]

Lol, just saw your pic coming up on trendsmap.

bored... waiting 4 backup 2 finish...

/twiddles thumbs
/grins

[Gunner182]

Model?:wtf:

[HideInLight]

Tweet deleted. Feeling the heat ...

I've already screenshotted the two. Deleting stuff on the internet is pointless if it's been up for more than 5 minutes.

[froot]

I've already screenshotted the two. Deleting stuff on the internet is pointless if it's been up for more than 5 minutes.

I mentioned this on the other thread, but I emailed the "studio" a screenshot of her tweets :whistle:

[boramk]

Her tweet about not feeling apologetic will not go down well when she's in the Human Rights Court. Lack of remorse means a sterner punishment.

I honestly thought Leandra getting hit by the Human Rights Commission was too much, but if this person doesn't I'll be disappointed.

[AfricanTech]

Egad - this is just as bad as the other idiot's tweet - if not worse - at least that one could argue "heat of the moment" for the other one - this is some serious race hate!

Low tide in the gene pool all round.

[Mr.CookieMonster]

TWITTER IS BECOMING THE MOTHER OF ALL RACISM COMMENTS

[Mila]

Aia. Next we will hear their accounts were hacked. Some pretty people have to keep quiet and be pretty.

[kilobits]

http://i0.simplest-image-hosting.net/picture/grrrrrr.jpg

grrrr

[boramk]

Aia. Next we will hear their accounts were hacked. Some pretty people have to keep quiet and be pretty.

:p I find neither of them pretty

[froot]

http://i0.simplest-image-hosting.net/picture/grrrrrr.jpg

grrrr

Hahahaha.

Oh, btw, I saw you retweeted said genocidal tweet. You and 48 other people. Hopefully something gets done about it good and proper.

[Brawler]

Aia. Next we will hear their accounts were hacked. Some pretty people have to keep quiet and be pretty.

But she can't do that... she is NOT pretty.

[Knyro]

Great now twitter is down, you guys broke the internetz! :mad:

[Mila]

But she can't do that... she is NOT pretty.

Eye of the beer holder?

Seems this is becoming a publicity stunt. Now everybody can be famous for 5 minutes.

[Brawler]

Awww... ducking 4 cover;

http://i0.simplest-image-hosting.net/picture/tshtsh.jpg

LOL I think the sad thing is she is just too stupid to realize what she is saying.

[marine1]

Let's see if there are double standards .....get popcorn and waits.

[kilobits]

http://i0.simplest-image-hosting.net/picture/aaarrrrggghhh.jpg


Aaaarrghyhhh... pfffft...

/waynegohl... step away from the interwebz

[boramk]

Let's see if there are double standards .....get popcorn and waits.

I haven't seen one person jump up to defend this one or justify what she said or break down what she was going through that made her say such things.

[froot]

I haven't seen one person jump up to defend this one or justify what she said or break down what she was going through that made her say such things.

There's no justifying or defending cries of "high5 for genocide!" :mad:

[MickeyD]

I haven't seen one person jump up to defend this one or justify what she said or break down what she was going through that made her say such things.
Maybe she OD'd on tik?

[HideInLight]

Even though she made obvious and blatant racial remarks, I find it more amusing that offensive after seeing the person it came from.
Just can't take her seriously...Her "opinion" comes from stupidity in it's purest form.

[Knyro]

I haven't seen one person jump up to defend this one or justify what she said or break down what she was going through that made her say such things.

+1

Biggest example of double standards so far.


There's no justifying or defending cries of "high5 for genocide!" :mad:

That's the point, there is no justification for this, but go have a look at how many people are falling over themselves to defend the FHM model in this thread (http://mybroadband.co.za/vb/showthread.php/428177-2011-FHM-Models-Winner-involved-in-racist-Twitter-controversy)

[boramk]

There's no justifying or defending cries of "high5 for genocide!" :mad:

Same goes for calling someone a kaff or African monkey. You don't justify nor defend it.

[boramk]

+1

Biggest example of double standards so far.

I say it all the time. MyBB is a swarming with double standards with people shouting for the end of racism.

START WITH YOURSELF. Where was this attitude in the other thread?

[froot]

That's the point, there is no justification for this, but go have a look at how many people are falling over themselves to defend the FHM model in this thread (http://mybroadband.co.za/vb/showthread.php/428177-2011-FHM-Models-Winner-involved-in-racist-Twitter-controversy)


Same goes for calling someone a kaff or African monkey. You don't justify nor defend it.

Quite true.

[Fudzy]

TWITTER IS BECOMING THE MOTHER OF ALL RACISM COMMENTS

OMG! I hope someone has let News24 know.

[milomak]

I honestly thought Leandra getting hit by the Human Rights Commission was too much, but if this person doesn't I'll be disappointed.

Make the complaint and she should

[daveza]

The Dummies Guide to Screwing Up Your Career With Just One Sentence.

[TheHiveMind]

No double standards, but you invested so much into the other thread that you had to be consistant in your condemnation, so it proves nothing. Let's be honest.

[marine1]

See boramk you cannt say I am a racist as I hate everyone .....I only love animals
/disclaimer: posted as a joke

[boramk]

See boramk you cannt say I am a racist as I hate everyone .....I only love animals
/disclaimer: posted as a joke

I don't even know how that's relevant, I haven't engaged you in any of the model threads I believe.

[DarkSpectre]

I wonder what would happen if a SA black woman called a SA white dude a racist word on twitter?

[Knyro]

No double standards, but you invested so much into the other thread that you had to be consistant in your condemnation, so it proves nothing. Let's be honest.

Hardly, I'm still consistent in my condemnation despite not having any comments in that other thread. This may come as a shock to you but some people are genuinely not racist.

If anyone should be honest it's you, why are you not defending this model when you defended the other one?

Double standards.

[marine1]

I don't even know how that's relevant, I haven't engaged you in any of the model threads I believe.

I didn't say you did??? :confused: jeeesh chill out man

[boramk]

Hardly, I'm still consistent in my condemnation despite not having any comments in that other thread. This may come as a shock to you but some people are genuinely not racist.

If anyone should be honest it's you, why are you not defending this model when you defended the other one?

In his mind, you have to prefer another race, its intrinsic to him. The shock value that a person who defends a black person defending a white person too overwhelms the conscious.

[HideInLight]

Hardly, I'm still consistent in my condemnation despite not having any comments in that other thread. This may come as a shock to you but some people are genuinely not racist.

If anyone should be honest it's you, why are you not defending this model when you defended the other one?

Double standards.

Has her career been ruined?
Has she admitted what she did was wrong?
Did she apologize?

[boramk]

I didn't say you did??? :confused: jeeesh chill out man

Erm, you said my name, and I didn't know what you meant hence I said "I don't know how this is relevant" because I haven't actually engaged you in other threads.

Honestly you really need to stop reading so much into my posts, you think everything is an attack on you. My post wasn't even written in an aggressive way so maybe you need to chill out?

[boramk]

Has her career been ruined?
Has she admitted what she did was wrong?
Did she apologize?

VuvuTV no longer wants her.
She hasn't because she's an idiot.
Stop comparing the two models as if the other is better because that only proves the point that there is a double standard.

[TheHiveMind]

Hardly, I'm still consistent in my condemnation despite not having any comments in that other thread. This may come as a shock to you but some people are genuinely not racist.

If anyone should be honest it's you, why are you not defending this model when you defended the other one?

Double standards.

You guys wouldn't believe it if I did. It would just end up looking like bs..
What would I be defending her from anyway? Is this making headlines? People calling for the HRC? Is her life falling apart?

[marine1]

You know the world is screwed when we actually care what models have to say.

[froot]

You know the world is screwed when we actually care what models have to say.

Post of the day, in my books :D

[kilobits]

Hmmm... camouflage engage !

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From...


Tshidi Thamana (@tshiditee)
Writer-ThePCN.co.za Bookings tshidi60@yahoo.com http://www.take10.co.za/show.php?id=994

To


Tshidi MsCapricorn (@tshiditee)
I'm Me... Your Opinion/s Don't Matter ;-)

tut tut tut

[boramk]

You guys wouldn't believe it if I did. It would just end up looking like bs..
What would I be defending her from anyway? Is this making headlines? People calling for the HRC? Is her life falling apart?

Not really. If you chastised Leandra and not defended her like you did in the other thread, I'd believe you. Once again it seems you are projecting. You feel that because I chastised this black model too, it came out looking like BS to you. It's hard for you to believe that I don't have preferential treatments to other races. Hence you accusing me of trying to be "consistent" when really, I'm just not racist.

And the part I bolded? Well you wouldn't be defending her because you have double standards.

[boramk]

You know the world is screwed when we actually care what models have to say.

It's more so because they are not really the average Joe. They got the public podium and posting such things is really not the kind of thing you do if you are a public figure, especisally on a public website. But I agree with your sentiments.

[TheHiveMind]

And the part I bolded? Well you wouldn't be defending her because you have double standards.

Racialism advocates the solidarity of all peoples with their groups. That is why racialist groups of different races have often collaborated.

[Garson007]

Lolmodels. Keep to saying world peace.

[HideInLight]

VuvuTV no longer wants her.
She hasn't because she's an idiot.
Stop comparing the two models as if the other is better because that only proves the point that there is a double standard.

Vuzu and FHM should rethink their decisions, distancing themselves from them is kinda a harsh/premature decision. This one needs to apologize first though although I doubt it. She seems to thrive on publicity...

[Knyro]

You guys wouldn't believe it if I did. It would just end up looking like bs..

So you refuse to be consistent just because of what people on the internet might say? :rolleyes:


What would I be defending her from anyway?

From people chastising her, just like the other model.


Is this making headlines? People calling for the HRC? Is her life falling apart?

I don't know about headlines but it is trending in SA, so a lot of people are up in arms about it. Maybe someone has called for the HRC? There are too many comments to read (I see some are calling for her to be locked up). As stated she will no longer be allowed on Vuzu so that's one source of publicity and income down.

[marine1]

It's more so because they are not really the average Joe. They got the public podium and posting such things is really not the kind of thing you do if you are a public figure, especisally on a public website. But I agree with your sentiments.

You are right. I went to look at that leandra or whatever her name is. She is clearly an idiot and a racist.
Anyway the point is SA is very far away from the "rainbow nation"

[Dolby]

a) She's a wannabe model ; Jessica is a real model at least
b) While I thought Jessica was pretty dumb for Tweeting what she did, nothing can beat this 'model' for Tweeting SIMILAR things AFTER seeing the consequences.

Unreal.

I wonder if we'll have a 3rd model?
Another race maybe?

[TheHiveMind]

Yeah, all to keep up the illusion, more important than attaining the real thing apparently, which makes me believe that the people who have been pushing for this rainbow nation no longer believe it is really attainable. It is those people that pushed us to this conflict. Now they want to suppress expression because it shatters the dream.

[boramk]

Vuzu and FHM should rethink their decisions, distancing themselves from them is kinda a harsh/premature decision. This one needs to apologize first though although I doubt it. She seems to thrive on publicity...

She won't because she is an idiot. From her posts you can tell she's one of those black people who think black people can't be racist.
Oh and I disagree. Vuzu and FHM should get rid of people who will hurt their brand name. You don't want to be associated with lowlifes.

[boramk]

Yeah, all to keep up the illusion, more important than attaining the real thing apparently, which makes me believe that the people who have been pushing for this rainbow nation no longer believe it is really attainable. It is those people that pushed us to this conflict. Now they want to suppress expression because it shatters the dream.

Quite being nebulous and be more specific. Nobody cares for reading into cryptic posts.

[Dolby]

Where does it says vuzu T removed her?

[HideInLight]

She won't because she is an idiot. From her posts you can tell she's one of those black people who think black people can't be racist.
Oh and I disagree. Vuzu and FHM should get rid of people who will hurt their brand name. You don't want to be associated with lowlifes.

People actually "read" the FHM?

[Rands]

OMG! Its julius malemas ghost in the machine spreading racist hatred everywhere!

[TheHiveMind]

Quite being nebulous and be more specific. Nobody cares for reading into cryptic posts.

Wasn't meant to be cryptic at all, the idea of unity out of chaos was full of fail and the dreamers don't want to take responsibility for something they pushed for. It's now OUR problem that they had a philosophy that comes out of a fkn walt disney movie, probably scribbled on a napkin stuck to their fridge next to their sociology degree.. They are going to blame the racists now for their failings.. Did they not realize that we had some of those when they were lauding the idea of a rainbow nation? That would be hard to miss, yes?

[Rockhound]

Both of them are serious dumbasses.
I am seriously considering the theory that the moon affects people.

Quick question off topic.

Most people I know just want to live and let live. Work, have a family, grow old and play with grandchildren,etc.

Do black South Africans really want genocide on whites or is it only the isolated idiots.
I hope it's the latter of the two.

[boramk]

Yeah, Apartheid was so much better. Us terrible dreamers who messed up your lives ey?

Don't even tell me now that you re not a racist unless from that terrible post you somehow had a 3rd system in mind?

[chris_meier]

Her 'agency' Take 10 (http://www.take10.co.za/)

PRIDES ITSELF ON REPRESENTING TALENTED INDIVIDUALS WHO STRIVE TO BE THE BEST THEY CAN BE.

but I haven't seen any signs of them falling over their feet to distance themselves from her. Some pride.

[TheHiveMind]

Don't even tell me now that you re not a racist unless from that terrible post you somehow had a 3rd system in mind?

It wouldn't be a democracy, not in that climate, not with our history, demographic, economic and educational inequality.
Stupid idea. Wtf were they thinking? All about the failboat?

[boramk]

It wouldn't be a democracy, not in that climate, not with our history, demographic, economic and educational inequality.
Stupid idea. Wtf were they thinking? All about the failboat?

What would it be? :rolleyes:

[TheHiveMind]

What would it be? :rolleyes:

It would be a one party state for starters, that way parties don't need to revert to splitting people on class and racial lines in order to gain and maintain a majority vote. That was obviously going to happen. Phase in racial representation, but emphasize meritocracy.

[boramk]

It would be a one party state for starters, that way parties don't revert to splitting people on class and racial lines in order to gain a majority vote. That was obviously going to happen.

So, keep Apartheid?

[Mike Hoxbig]

They're both idiots and both deserve any consequences to their careers that may come their way.

Btw it's funny to see the double standards. No comparisons to the reactions to racism vs. violent crimes in this thread. No "her actions were because she was upset" in this thread. Heck, some of the racist apologists haven't even posted in this thread.

[TheHiveMind]

So, keep Apartheid?

No. That's a fallacy, obviously.

[boramk]

But this is what you are suggesting. The people may not vote. Whites or blacks or Asians.
Government chooses itself and amongst itself to see who runs. Who sets the merit?

They tried it, it was called communism, under the guise of being for the people it ended up not working so well. Equal representation on the other hand, is an idea that absolutely terrifies you, especially when 90% of the country isn't like you.

[Randhir]

Oh my god. This idiot might be more moronic than the last one. And waaaaay more racist. "All the white people'???

:erm:

[Ekstasis]

Oh my god. This idiot might be more moronic than the last one. And waaaaay more racist. "All the white people'???
:erm:Yes, ALL of them...every single last one of them.

[Randhir]

Yes, ALL of them...every single last one of them.

That's ridiculous... I'd keep some of you around.

[Flanders]

http://www.mybroadband.co.za/photos/data/982/tshidi.JPG

Just a crying shame that dear ol' Peter "AIDS denialist" Mokaba croaked...of the slow puncture no less. LOL. She should've been appealing to someone like Ronald Lamola. He seems to fit the brand of "saviour" she was going for.

[AfricanTech]

I wonder what would happen if a SA black woman called a SA white dude a racist word on twitter?

a racist word aimed at a white person would not evoke the same level of outrage (except perhaps if there is one that developed for white afrikaans people during the anglo boer war that evokes memories associated with the concentration camps) - the emotional impact of the k-word is completely different from other epithets because it has history embedded in it and represented a concrete abuse and violation of human rights and dignity - a mere pejorative (racist or not) does not evoke the same kind of reaction.

[Eskimos]

Good.

What an idiot this person is, Leandra makes a racial slur and she thinks that by being racist it will stop racism?
At least Leandra didn't call for genocide. I can actually call this one a bitch

People are just stupid, both of the are idiots.


Well, the ones a real model, other ones a self proclaimed model

Yet the truth remains they are both idiots who have possibly ruined their future big time careers.


TWITTER IS BECOMING THE MOTHER OF ALL RACISM COMMENTS

It was always going to happen. As the internet became more available and easier to access, more and more low-intelligence individuals are posting things on the net and most of them can't comprehend that others can view it and the possible repercussions.


OMG! I hope someone has let News24 know.

Haha, glad someone caught this.

[killadoob]

a racist word aimed at a white person would not evoke the same level of outrage (except perhaps if there is one that developed for white afrikaans people during the anglo boer war that evokes memories associated with the concentration camps) - the emotional impact of the k-word is completely different from other epithets because it has history embedded in it and represented a concrete abuse and violation of human rights and dignity - a mere pejorative (racist or not) does not evoke the same kind of reaction.

Yup, i cannot think of anything a black person could say to a white person to make them upset hahaha. Calling for genocide though i suppose could do it LOL, so well done to this retard for finding a way to offend the whites :D.

They can be lucky they live in SA, in the UK they send people to jail for racist stuff, i recall that one oke who racially abused that soccer player while he dying on the pitch, that dude got a 50 day sentence and perhaps it's time we implement that.

Calling for genocide should end in jail for sure, leandra should also go to jail :D. A couple jail sentences will shut down racism for good. At least on public platforms anyhow. That black lady who called for genocide cannot be a model though, perhaps the standards are dropping when leandra and this chick become models :D

[AfricanTech]

Yup, i cannot think of anything a black person could say to a white person to make them upset hahaha. Calling for genocide though i suppose could do it LOL, so well done to this retard for finding a way to offend the whites :D.

They can be lucky they live in SA, in the UK they send people to jail for racist stuff, i recall that one oke who racially abused that soccer player while he dying on the pitch, that dude got a 50 day sentence and perhaps it's time we implement that.

Calling for genocide should end in jail for sure, leandra should also go to jail :D. A couple jail sentences will shut down racism for good. At least on public platforms anyhow. That black lady who called for genocide cannot be a model though, perhaps the standards are dropping when leandra and this chick become models :D

+1

Aren't calls for genocide classified as hate speech = HRC

[kilobits]

http://i0.simplest-image-hosting.net/picture/tshhittimscapricorn.jpg

facepalm

[froot]

http://i0.simplest-image-hosting.net/picture/tshhittimscapricorn.jpg

facepalm

Bwahahaha.

She has tweeted an apology. "It was done out of anger". Wow. What for? What an excuse.

[satanboy]

Hmmm... camouflage engage !

http://i0.simplest-image-hosting.net/picture/pffft.jpg

From...



To



tut tut tut

Sheesh I can't believe this dude gets modeling contracts.

:p

[Hamster]

Bwahahaha.

She has tweeted an apology. "It was done out of anger". Wow. What for? What an excuse.

Oh come on! Now she's just copying Jessica.

[marine1]

http://i0.simplest-image-hosting.net/picture/tshhittimscapricorn.jpg

facepalm
Bwahahah brilliant

[McT]

So many clowns... the circus is filling up quickly. But it's one show I am not paying to watch.

[Sensorei]

This cretin/model should be dressed up in a rhino suit and set loose near poachers.

[kilobits]

http://i0.simplest-image-hosting.net/picture/tshtshtsh.jpg

Tsk tsk... getting a tad warm huh ?

[STS]

+1

Aren't calls for genocide classified as hate speech = HRC

racism is racism. she wouldn't need to call for genocide if there was already a genocide going on anywho, so which do we believe? :rolleyes:

[TheHiveMind]

Yes, get her to pretend that she loves us, like a stripper does, <sarc>I don't find that insulting to my intelligence at all, I can totally derive pleasure from such blatant bs</sarc>. Forget reality, let's all pretend.

I love everything <3

[xrapidx]

God models are thick.

[AfricanTech]

So many clowns... the circus is filling up quickly. But it's one show I am not paying to watch.

Sadly you are - your tax dollars (rands) at work

[OrbitalDawn]

These half-assed apologies almost piss me off more. The irrationality, ignorance and bigotry doesn't disappear when they say "LOL SORRY!".

Is the best we can hope for that racists don't act out their beliefs?

[HideInLight]

Can't really ask more of her, I forgive her at least. Sorry Julius Malema, she's too good for you.

[HideInLight]

These half-assed apologies almost piss me off more. The irrationality, ignorance and bigotry doesn't disappear when they say "LOL SORRY!".

Is the best we can hope for that racists don't act out their beliefs?

That's good enough for me.

[daveza]

Too late Ms Wannabee.

Self-important git.

[R13...]

Yup, i cannot think of anything a black person could say to a white person to make them upset hahaha. Calling for genocide though i suppose could do it LOL, so well done to this retard for finding a way to offend the whites :D.


What a moronic thing to suggest:mad: People are upset by the racist association of the word, not the word in itself.
You all have your panties in a bunch because this model is being racist (correctly so, the upset that is). She does not call for genocide because she is incapable of doing and what do you know about genocide anyway. Gods what is wrong with people here! When people say but how can a "mere" song upset you, you go all up in arms and make wild claims of genocide and then turn around and wonder why a "mere" racist word might upset others so much.

In fact, killa in his post African Tech does admit that a racist term borne of real racism would hurt a white person, but you overlooked that and he too missed the meaning of his own post.

[Sinbad]

What a moronic thing to suggest:mad: People are upset by the racist association of the word, not the word in itself.
You all have your panties in a bunch because this model is being racist (correctly so, the upset that is). She does not call for genocide because she is incapable of doing and what do you know about genocide anyway. Gods what is wrong with people here! When people say but how can a "mere" song upset you, you go all up in arms and make wild claims of genocide and then turn around and wonder why a "mere" racist word might upset others so much.

In fact, killa in his post African Tech does admit that a racist term borne of real racism would hurt a white person, but you overlooked that and he too missed the meaning of his own post.

Read again. She wished for genocide. She wished for all white people to be dead.

Can you not distinguish between "you are an idiot" and "you should die because you are an idiot"?

[R13...]

Read again. She wished for genocide. She wished for all white people to be dead.
The outrage would be no different if she'd said, "**** all white people because they are white". It would be no less racist.

[Sinbad]

I guess you can't then.

[daveza]

a racist term borne of real racism would hurt a white person

I can't imagine a racist term that would hurt me.

Soutpiel, rooinek, whitey, pinkie - I'm meant to be offended, seriously ?

[OrbitalDawn]

I can't imagine a racist term that would hurt me.

Soutpiel, rooinek, whitey, pinkie - I'm meant to be offended, seriously ?

Those are more culturally discriminative though, aren't they? Similar to dutchman.

But yeah, I'm not offended by racist words, it's racism put into action that bothers me.

As part of a larger conversation, I don't get why words offend people at all. Like swear words, for example. Words are just tools to impart meaning, nothing more. I'd be much more bothered if someone seriously told me he wanted to gut me like a fish with a rusty knife than when someone tells me to f(#$ off. Meaning and intent, that's the important part, not the actual sounds.

[Ekstasis]

People can think what they want, but not say what they want.

[efitol]

People can think what they want, but not say what they want.

Wait until the Mind Reader 5000 becomes available. It'll be like a speed trap, but used by the Thought Police.

[marine1]

I can't imagine a racist term that would hurt me.

Soutpiel, rooinek, whitey, pinkie - I'm meant to be offended, seriously ?Ya same, I completely agree. Honkey, wit ou, and the list goes on.....

[czc]

I can't imagine a racist term that would hurt me.

Soutpiel, rooinek, whitey, pinkie - I'm meant to be offended, seriously ?

Proud to be one :D

[4cer]

so lets say... some dude somewhere is irritating me, and i call him a "k" and he is white... is that still racist ?

[ahf]

This morning on the "Justice Factor" Justice Malala called Leandra a "bloody racist" live on TV
Wonder if he will do the same with this woman.

Edit: Re-broadcast tomorrow morning at 09:30

[Brawler]

Proud to be one :D

Thats probably the thing. Not all races have the proverbial chip on shoulder, looking for any opportunity to pull the race card at every corner. Saying that all of any particular race should die is a tad on the Hitler side of things.

[Eskimos]

Thats probably the thing. Not all races have the proverbial chip on shoulder, looking for any opportunity to pull the race card at every corner. Saying that all of any particular race should die is a tad on the Hitler side of things.

I think you can just make sweeping statements like that. Whites in this country have never been oppressed like the blacks, Indians etc. So obviously you would expect them to get more offended given the context, especially with a country like ours with such a horrific history.

You would be kidding yourself if you think people can just forget what they experienced under Apartheid and just act as if it didn't happen.

I'm not going to go into the whole youth that didn't experience Apartheid debate but lets be honest there are still people who are racist and most of the time the call outs seem legitimate. Just because you or I don't get offended it doesn't mean that everyone else needs to abide by that. Also all races in this country use the race card. Visit the news24 comment section if you honestly believe white people don't through out the race card.

[Ou grote]

I think you can just make sweeping statements like that. Whites in this country have never been oppressed like the blacks, Indians etc. So obviously you would expect them to get more offended given the context, especially with a country like ours with such a horrific history.

You would be kidding yourself if you think people can just forget what they experienced under Apartheid and just act as if it didn't happen.

I'm not going to go into the whole youth that didn't experience Apartheid debate but lets be honest there are still people who are racist and most of the time the call outs seem legitimate. Just because you or I don't get offended it doesn't mean that everyone else needs to abide by that. Also all races in this country use the race card. Visit the news24 comment section if you honestly believe white people don't through out the race card.


Grab yourself a history book sometime. There are many cases where whites have been opressed, and still are being opressed.

[AfricanTech]

..snip..

In fact, killa in his post African Tech does admit that a racist term borne of real racism would hurt a white person, but you overlooked that and he too missed the meaning of his own post.

Umm, and exactly how did I miss the meaning of my own post? :confused: :wtf:

and for the record, I did not "admit" the point, I "posited" the point!

[Mila]

That girl can not have memories of living under apartheid.

[AfricanTech]

so lets say... some dude somewhere is irritating me, and i call him a "k" and he is white... is that still racist ?

only if you add the boetie to the end of it

[Nicodeamus]

I think you can just make sweeping statements like that. Whites in this country have never been oppressed like the blacks, Indians etc. So obviously you would expect them to get more offended given the context, especially with a country like ours with such a horrific history.

You would be kidding yourself if you think people can just forget what they experienced under Apartheid and just act as if it didn't happen.

I'm not going to go into the whole youth that didn't experience Apartheid debate but lets be honest there are still people who are racist and most of the time the call outs seem legitimate. Just because you or I don't get offended it doesn't mean that everyone else needs to abide by that. Also all races in this country use the race card. Visit the news24 comment section if you honestly believe white people don't through out the race card.

You really have to have a very good definition of what oppression is to believe the nonsense you just said.

[boramk]

Grab yourself a history book sometime. There are many cases where whites have been opressed, and still are being opressed.

He was referring to Apartheid, and probably not the Anglo-Boer War. In any case concentration camps are not the same as discriminatory laws but what the British did to the Boers was disgusting.

[Nicodeamus]

He was referring to Apartheid, and probably not the Anglo-Boer War. In any case concentration camps are not the same as discriminatory laws but what the British did to the Boers was disgusting.

actually there were discriminatory laws during that time, my grandfather's generation were forced to go to school wearing signs saying "I will not speak dutch". Go read up on Lord Milner and his 'progressive policies'.

[boramk]

actually there were discriminatory laws during that time, my grandfather's generation were forced to go to school wearing signs saying "I will not speak dutch". Go read up on Lord Milner and his 'progressive policies'.

Woah, your grandfather's generation? I knew about the Great Trek and the reasons for it, I had no idea that the British enforced things like that so recently!

[boramk]

I read about Milner, it looks like it was during the Anglo-Boer war period... When you said grandfather I thought you meant the 50's.

I assumed you were my age, I guess you are way older :D

[Nerfherder]

Milner was about 60 during the Boer war, he died in 1925

[Eskimos]

Grab yourself a history book sometime. There are many cases where whites have been opressed, and still are being opressed.

Please enlighten me on what incidents are as bad or worse then Apartheid that whites have suffered or are suffering in this country at the hands of other races. Serious comment because I honestly can't of one.


You really have to have a very good definition of what oppression is to believe the nonsense you just said.

In your comment you've actually haven"t said were i was wrong. Like above enlighten me to the like Apartheid events whites have experienced at the hands of other races.

[Ou grote]

He was referring to Apartheid, and probably not the Anglo-Boer War. In any case concentration camps are not the same as discriminatory laws but what the British did to the Boers was disgusting.

Grab a history book.


Please enlighten me on what incidents are as bad or worse then Apartheid that whites have suffered or are suffering in this country at the hands of other races. Serious comment because I honestly can't of one.



In your comment you've actually haven"t said were i was wrong. Like above enlighten me to the like Apartheid events whites have experienced at the hands of other races.

You need a white person to think for you?
Use google or get a history book.

[Eskimos]

You need a white person to think for you?
Use google or get a history book.

lol at you thinking I'm black just for disagreeing with you. Also let me guess you can't think of a single event so now you are trying to act high and mighty. Good job but seriously though, how can you just make points without providing any sort of evidence to back up your points.

-edit-

Oh and in a race thread like this, don't you find it kind of stupid that you would say something like that.

[AirWolf]

So what can we safely conclude from the sample size of two?

Models are dumberest :D

I would personally call for compulsory IQ testing in future :p.

[Mila]

So what can we safely conclude from the sample size of two?

Models are dumberest :D

I would personally call for compulsory IQ testing in future :p.You will find iq and beauty is not always in the same package... In the audio files of modeling for dummies rule number one should be:
Zip it. If we wanted you to talk you would have been in a movie.. And even then ...sometimes only moaning is required.



( disclaimer : yes I know not all models are limited in the brain department :twisted:)

[kilobits]

You will find iq and beauty is not always in the same package... In the audio files of modeling for dummies rule number one should be:
Zip it. If we wanted you to talk you would have been in a movie.. And even then ...sometimes only moaning is required.

<snip>

:D

[Hamster]

Models should take a hint from strippers and most pornstars - STFU and try look pretty.

[Sinbad]

Models should take a hint from strippers and most pornstars - STFU and try look pretty.

Stfu and open wide ;)

[zululami]

all this hatred, all this racism... quite depressing... "whatever happened to the values of humanity. Whatever happened to the fairness in equality. Instead in spreading love we spreading animosity. Lack of understanding, leading lives away from unity. That's the reason why sometimes I'm feelin' under. That's the reason why sometimes I'm feelin' down" - Black Eyed Peas

[AfricanTech]

So what can we safely conclude from the sample size of two?

Models are dumberest :D

I would personally call for compulsory IQ testing in future :p.

Models and sport stars should have chastity belts for their thumbs to prevent promiscuous tweeting

[TheHiveMind]

Models should take a hint from strippers and most pornstars - STFU and try look pretty.

You've obviously never met any strippers.

[scudsucker]

You've obviously never met any strippers.

He did say "try look pretty"!

[Bizkit87]

First of all, there is so much irony in her tweet, that i'm at a loss for words... :wtf::wtf:


According to Die Burger, Tshidi Thamana (@tshiditee) tweeted on Friday: “Dear Mr Peter Mokaba... I wish All White People were killed when you sang ‘KIll The Boer’ we wouldn’t be experiencing @JessicaLeandra’s racism right now.”

link (http://www.iol.co.za/news/south-africa/another-model-another-racist-tweet-1.1290326)

So, one girl says a racist insult, vs another that call for death to all whites so she wouldn't experience "racism" [too much of the irony].

So, now lets see if all her sponsors etc drop her like a hot potato.

[Ninja'd]

First of all, there is so much irony in her tweet, that i'm at a loss for words... :wtf::wtf:



link (http://www.iol.co.za/news/south-africa/another-model-another-racist-tweet-1.1290326)

So, one girl says a racist insult, vs another that call for death to all whites so she wouldn't experience "racism" [too much of the irony].

So, now lets see if all her sponsors etc drop her like a hot potato.

Who would want to sponsor a face like that in the first place?

[Bizkit87]

Who would want to sponsor a face like that in the first place?

I see her smiling on a poster, and the line reads "Have you been STD tested lately, i have "

I just have a question here, how is calling no-one identifiable a k--fer [which, is racist, yes.] the same as calling for white genocide [should this not be more than "just" racism?]

Its a racist term vs calling for the killing of an entire race, but unfortunately, more will happen to you if say the dreaded k-word, than calling for the deaths of +- 4million people.

I'm still waiting for "associates" of her to come out and speak.

[PostmanPot]

I see her smiling on a poster, and the line reads "Have you been STD tested lately, i have "

I just have a question here, how is calling no-one identifiable a k--fer [which, is racist, yes.] the same as calling for white genocide [should this not be more than "just" racism?]

Its a racist term vs calling for the killing of an entire race, but unfortunately, more will happen to you if say the dreaded k-word, than calling for the deaths of +- 4million people.

I'm still waiting for "associates" of her to come out and speak.

There are no calls for white genocide therefore your question is invalid. Nor is BEE a call for white genocide. To me it seems you need to stop reading pseudo white genocide websites and News24 as your mentality is typical of those frequenting said sites.

[wily me]

There are no calls for white genocide therefore your question is invalid. Nor is BEE a call for white genocide. To me it seems you need to stop reading pseudo white genocide websites and News24 as your mentality is typical of those frequenting said sites.

Them explain in your own words what this mean ;)


I wish All White People were killed when you sang ‘KIll The Boer’ we wouldn’t be experiencing Jessica Leandra’s racism right now

[Datura]

Ugly.

[Bizkit87]

There are no calls for white genocide therefore your question is invalid. Nor is BEE a call for white genocide. To me it seems you need to stop reading pseudo white genocide websites and News24 as your mentality is typical of those frequenting said sites.

OK....

No calls for genocide? !? Then for the love of all that is good an pure, explain to me how i misunderstood the following:


Dear Mr Peter Mokaba... I wish All White People were killed when you sang ‘KIll The Boer’ we wouldn’t be experiencing @JessicaLeandra’s racism right now.

Also, is their arguments invalid?

http://www.genocidewatch.org/southafrica.html

and them?
http://www.examiner.com/article/watchdogs-accuse-south-africa-of-genocide
http://www.nl-aid.org/domain/human-rights/south-africa-at-stage-six-genocide/

Sticking your head in the sand does not make this go away.

[Fudzy]

You should review the 10 pages of previous comments made before you rehashed the news.

[wily me]

You should review the 10 pages of previous comments made before you rehashed the news.

Are you defending her tweeted comments? :confused:

[Fudzy]

Are you defending her tweeted comments? :confused:

No, just saying that he should probably realise that this debate has happened already and whatever he is looking for has probably been discussed already.

[Sinbad]

@tshiditee we'd like to speak to you on camera today regarding your tweet abt Jessica. Please advise urgently. Jody, eNews


Jody Jacobs ...

[Bizkit87]

No, just saying that he should probably realise that this debate has happened already and whatever he is looking for has probably been discussed already.

If you are refering to me, then yes, i did read all the other pages, next...

I want to know how saying "i wish all white people were killed" is not a call for genocide, same as "kill the boer" is not a call for genocide...

[PostmanPot]

OK....

No calls for genocide? !? Then for the love of all that is good an pure, explain to me how i misunderstood the following:



Also, is their arguments invalid?

http://www.genocidewatch.org/southafrica.html

and them?
http://www.examiner.com/article/watchdogs-accuse-south-africa-of-genocide
http://www.nl-aid.org/domain/human-rights/south-africa-at-stage-six-genocide/

Sticking your head in the sand does not make this go away.


AUTHOR: Adriana Stuijt
URL: http://censorbugbear.blogspot.com
E-MAIL: a.j.stuijt [at] knid.nl

Lmfao.

Your fear mongering racist websites talk of genocide have fsckall to do with the ramblings of another stupid racist. It is you linking the two out of your own ignorance. :(

[Fudzy]

Lmfao.

+1

Her credibility (or lack thereof) has done less for farm attacks as Julias Malema singing his song.

[Mila]

you are giving her what she wanted all along. she now is famoes. Stopit. We have enough vocal village idiots. Do not give her a soapbox please.

[wily me]

+1

Her credibility (or lack thereof) has done less for farm attacks as Julias Malema singing his song.

I agree with you, Malema's comments and song have done little (positive) for farm attacks, it possibly sparked most if not all of them. I find it strange that people may think any different.

[PostmanPot]

I agree with you, Malema's comments and song have done little (positive) for farm attacks, it possibly sparked most if not all of them. I find it strange that people may think any different.

At least we can agree that you are as uncertain about what you're spouting as the word "possibly".

[R13...]

I agree with you, Malema's comments and song have done little (positive) for farm attacks, it possibly sparked most if not all of them. I find it strange that people may think any different.
So you're suggesting that people are incapable of seeing the metaphor of the song? But you yourself are incapable of seeing that same metaphor. Who is stupid here?

[PostmanPot]

So you're suggesting that people are incapable of seeing the metaphor of the song? But you yourself are incapable of seeing that same metaphor. Who is stupid here?

Exactly. Get off that privileged high horse.

[kilobits]

@tshiditee we'd like to speak to you on camera today regarding your tweet abt Jessica. Please advise urgently. Jody, eNews


Jody Jacobs ...

@tshiditee has now become @SweetSoundSA .

http://i0.simplest-image-hosting.net/picture/sweetsounds.jpg

EDIT: Poof... gone from twitter. Too hot in the kitchen.

[Bizkit87]

Lmfao.

Your fear mongering racist websites talk of genocide have fsckall to do with the ramblings of another stupid racist. It is you linking the two out of your own ignorance. :(

Ok, so ill admit to the last one being wrong, i did'nt see it was just one guy on blogspot, i reached that linked via another source.

But what i find funny, is that you try and discredit all 3 link, by 1 being "iffy"

So what about these guys?
http://www.genocidewatch.org/aboutus/directorsandadvisors.html


I linked these, as you said "there is no call for genocide", if there is no call for genocide, why are these guys listing us as level 6?
Read some more here: http://www.genocidewatch.org/southafrica.html

And im still waiting for "there is no call for genocide" when you use the words "i wish all whites were dead"

Please answer that before you LMFAO all over yourself.

[Mila]

Exactly. Get off that privileged high horse. R13 has a privileged horse.. Now I never.

[wily me]

So you're suggesting that people are incapable of seeing the metaphor of the song? But you yourself are incapable of seeing that same metaphor. Who is stupid here?

A pseudo metaphor to be used to cover up the sinister views of the people frequently using the song, knowing the effect it has on certain groups. How do you then explain the outcry about the metaphoric De La Rey song? What is quiet obvious is that Malema made his racist views about whites quiet clear in many other occasions.

[wily me]

@tshiditee has now become @SweetSoundSA .

http://i0.simplest-image-hosting.net/picture/sweetsounds.jpg

EDIT: Poof... gone from twitter. Too hot in the kitchen.

She is a real bitch, I hope she lose all she ever gained before. Bloody racist twat.

[Bizkit87]

@tshiditee has now become @SweetSoundSA .

http://i0.simplest-image-hosting.net/picture/sweetsounds.jpg

EDIT: Poof... gone from twitter. Too hot in the kitchen.

so bug her on Facebook.

[Fudzy]

So what about these guys?
http://www.genocidewatch.org/aboutus/directorsandadvisors.html


They seem to take their information directly from those boergenocide/censorbugbear sites:
Country Genocide level Victims Killers
South Africa 5 Whites, Boers Marxist racists

Marxist racists? Seriously?

[kilobits]

so bug her on Facebook.

Naaah... I am sure there is a line already forming there to do just that.

Perhaps the lesson learned from this should be one of empathy.


Empathy is the capacity to recognize and share feelings that are being experienced by another sentient or semi-sentient being. Someone may need to have a certain amount of empathy before they are able to feel compassion. The English word was coined in 1909 by E.B. Titchener as an attempt to translate the German word "Einfühlungsvermögen", a new phenomenon explored at the end of 19th century mainly by Theodor Lipps. It was later re-translated into the German language (Germanized) as "Empathie", and is still in use there.

http://mediumsworld.files.wordpress.com/2011/09/empathy.jpg

[wily me]

so bug her on Facebook.
She's not worth an iota of my time! She hanged herself (I hope)!

[Bizkit87]

They seem to take their information directly from those boergenocide/censorbugbear sites:
Country Genocide level Victims Killers
South Africa 5 Whites, Boers Marxist racists

Marxist racists? Seriously?


There is a list of all the info, its from various news sources around the world, or is there just 1 credible/authentic "genocide" resource i'm not aware of? but we are getting side-tracked by this.

NOBODY has answered my question: "HOW IS CALLING FOR THE DEATHS OF WHITE PEOPLE NOT A CALL FOR GENOCIDE" PLEASE ANSWER....

[PostmanPot]

Ok, so ill admit to the last one being wrong, i did'nt see it was just one guy on blogspot, i reached that linked via another source.

But what i find funny, is that you try and discredit all 3 link, by 1 being "iffy"

So what about these guys?
http://www.genocidewatch.org/aboutus/directorsandadvisors.html


I linked these, as you said "there is no call for genocide", if there is no call for genocide, why are these guys listing us as level 6?
Read some more here: http://www.genocidewatch.org/southafrica.html

And im still waiting for "there is no call for genocide" when you use the words "i wish all whites were dead"

Please answer that before you LMFAO all over yourself.

Genocide Watch = "an organisation" (of "repute" to many, let's just call them Negative Nancy's) that acts under the guise of statistics, facts, etc. applying these facts to a country
Twitter = "personal" views, many from dumb air head racists.

You can see that the two are very different and separate from one another. Further, we are not denying that racists exist, we are denying white genocide, which is what your sources of opinion lie about.

[Sinbad]

Genocide Watch = "an organisation" (of "repute" to many, let's just call them Negative Nancy's) that acts under the guise of statistics, facts, etc. applying these facts to a country
Twitter = "personal" views, many from dumb air head racists.

You can see that the two are very different and separate from one another. Further, we are not denying that racists exist, we are denying white genocide, which is what your sources of opinion lie about.

Question: if this person thinks that there would be no racists in sa if the words to the song had been carried out, then surely this person does NOT see the song as a metaphor? And if that's the case I'm sure she's not the only one?

Just asking...

[Fudzy]

There is a list of all the info, its from various news sources around the world, or is there just 1 credible/authentic "genocide" resource i'm not aware of? but we are getting side-tracked by this.

NOBODY has answered my question: "HOW IS CALLING FOR THE DEATHS OF WHITE PEOPLE NOT A CALL FOR GENOCIDE" PLEASE ANSWER....

By definition they are one and the same so I don't think there is a difference. The word genocide has lost a lot of meaning locally by all those crying wolf.

[Bizkit87]

Genocide Watch = "an organisation" (of "repute" to many, let's just call them Negative Nancy's) that acts under the guise of statistics, facts, etc. applying these facts to a country
Twitter = "personal" views, many from dumb air head racists.

You can see that the two are very different and separate from one another. Further, we are not denying that racists exist, we are denying white genocide, which is what your sources of opinion lie about.


Who gave you a better authority about 'white' genocide in South Africa, than a WORLD-wide collaboration and observations organisation?

so there is no call for genocide, even if some person on twitter says "kill all whites" or a political leader calls all whites criminals and racists and "kill the boers", or the president of the country sings a song that the 'liberation' of the country used to get blacks to kill whites, is no call for the death of the whites, because YOU say so?

Ok, thanks, got that cleared out.

So lets then split the two again [i provided link, as you said there is no call for white genocide, yet there are many organisations quite alert and worried about just that]

Lets go back:


According to Die Burger, Tshidi Thamana (@tshiditee) tweeted on Friday: “Dear Mr Peter Mokaba... I wish All White People were killed when you sang ‘KIll The Boer’ we wouldn’t be experiencing @JessicaLeandra’s racism right now.”

Is that not a call for genocide !? Or do you compare what Tshidi has said here, to be of the same magnitude as what Jessica has said?

Then, i tried to see how you can compare this [remember the country wide furor Jessica received !?] situations with:


I just have a question here, how is calling no-one identifiable a k--fer [which, is racist, yes.] the same as calling for white genocide [should this not be more than "just" racism?]

Its a racist term vs calling for the killing of an entire race, but unfortunately, more will happen to you if say the dreaded k-word, than calling for the deaths of +- 4million people.

to which you replied:

There are no calls for white genocide therefore your question is invalid.

Thus me posting the geno-watch links.

Now that i've summed it up again, please answer my question again.

[PostmanPot]

Question: if this person thinks that there would be no racists in sa if the words to the song had been carried out, then surely this person does NOT see the song as a metaphor? And if that's the case I'm sure she's not the only one?

Just asking...

She certainly is not the only one, and I'm not sure why you're reading into it as if you don't know this. Are you the type that says "Only whites can be racist"?

I do not want to spend an entire afternoon explaining the effects of experiences and emotion on one's own feelings leading to their beliefs. The point is it is a personal and isolated case and we are only going to get nasty if we over analyse and blow it out of proportion to the extent it has been. If the media knew the dark thoughts many people may have especially at different times of experience/emotion, think about the picture of the human race that would be being painted. We know it would be total bs though because most humans get along just fine.

http://a7.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/427867_353305708061292_217358448322686_941780_1886 139697_n.jpg

[Techne]

http://jerm.co.za/images/2012/05/jerm-racist-tweet-jessica-leandra.jpg

[wily me]

So you're suggesting that people are incapable of seeing the metaphor of the song? But you yourself are incapable of seeing that same metaphor. Who is stupid here?
Obviously YOU?

Explain the debacle about the De la Rey song for me...please, please, please!

[Sinbad]

She certainly is not the only one, and I'm not sure why you're reading into it as if you don't know this. Are you the type that says "Only whites can be racist"?



So the song has a real impact on people who hear it, of all colors. Therefore, surely it is hate speech and more than a mere metaphor?

[R13...]

Obviously YOU?

Explain the debacle about the De la Rey song for me...please, please, please!
What debacle?

[wily me]

What debacle?

Never mind, it's clear now!

[PostmanPot]

So the song has a real impact on people who hear it, of all colors. Therefore, surely it is hate speech and more than a mere metaphor?

Was Colin Lamont's judgement in late 2011 not enough for you? Really now, stop crossing wires.

[R13...]

Never mind, it's clear now!
Your juvenile petulance duly noted for future reference.

[Sinbad]

Was Colin Lamont's judgement in late 2011 not enough for you? Really now, stop crossing wires.

No. Nothing has been done about it. Where are the consequences to people who still sing it?

Crossing wires? You are the one claiming its just a metaphor, against all evidence and the judgement. You are the one muddying the waters.

[wily me]

Your juvenile petulance duly noted for future reference.

You are on this board for so long now you ask me what was the debacle about the De La Rey song? Sometimes the sheer stupidity on MyBB just amazes me. We here have two songs. The "Kill the boer (whites)" song and the "De la Rey" song. The one was a symbolic song that caused much negative controversy and the other one call for "white genocide" but it is rather just to be accepted as a metaphor? How quaint.

[PostmanPot]

No. Nothing has been done about it. Where are the consequences to people who still sing it?

Crossing wires? You are the one claiming its just a metaphor, against all evidence and the judgement. You are the one muddying the waters.

It's a metaphor when [legally] used to commemorate the struggle. It's hate speech when used to hate. There is a difference and my admission that the Twitts and their Tweets are racist and can garner other racists, by default means I agree it's hate speech, and am vehemently against it. The problem to me is is that you cannot seem to separate the two. When you see a crowd different, marching and singing their songs, your upbringing, emotion and influences dictate to you that it is inherently hatred, calls for genocide, etc.

Let me repeat so we are clear on what the real issue is. There are no calls for white genocide, nor is there white genocide. A Tweet from a Twit is no call for genocide, and not comparable to other nonsense-official genocide watch ratings or other nonsense-statistic websites or any other semi realistic suggestions.

And to be crystal clear, I do understand how emotions etc. can lead to different people having various negative and racial thoughts and beliefs.

If you think I am muddying the water though, then you lack empathy for others.

I'm sure you, Leandra and the other one are good people at the end of the day. ;)

[Bizkit87]

It's a metaphor when [legally] used to commemorate the struggle. It's hate speech when used to hate. There is a difference and my admission that the Twitts and their Tweets are racist and can garner other racists, by default means I agree it's hate speech, and am vehemently against it. The problem to me is is that you cannot seem to separate the two. When you see a crowd different, marching and singing their songs, your upbringing, emotion and influences dictate to you that it is inherently hatred, calls for genocide, etc.

Let me repeat so we are clear on what the real issue is. There are no calls for white genocide, nor is there white genocide. A Tweet from a Twit is no call for genocide, and not comparable to other nonsense-official genocide watch ratings or other nonsense-statistic websites or any other semi realistic suggestions.

And to be crystal clear, I do understand how emotions etc. can lead to different people having various negative and racial thoughts and beliefs.

If you think I am muddying the water though, then you lack empathy for others.

I'm sure you, Leandra and the other one are good people at the end of the day. ;)

again, why? because "YOU say so?"

EDIT: remember, all Hitler wanted was 'peace', until it was too late...

[Sinbad]

It's a metaphor when [legally] used to commemorate the struggle. It's hate speech when used to hate. There is a difference and my admission that the Twitts and their Tweets are racist and can garner other racists, by default means I agree it's hate speech, and am vehemently against it. The problem to me is is that you cannot seem to separate the two. When you see a crowd different, marching and singing their songs, your upbringing, emotion and influences dictate to you that it is inherently hatred, calls for genocide, etc.

Let me repeat so we are clear on what the real issue is. There are no calls for white genocide, nor is there white genocide. A Tweet from a Twit is no call for genocide, and not comparable to other nonsense-official genocide watch ratings or other nonsense-statistic websites or any other semi realistic suggestions.

And to be crystal clear, I do understand how emotions etc. can lead to different people having various negative and racial thoughts and beliefs.

If you think I am muddying the water though, then you lack empathy for others.

I'm sure you, Leandra and the other one are good people at the end of the day. ;)

Please don't lump me with them.

Ok fine if you can legally corkscrew your way into justifying the song, then surely you have to agree that it is inappropriate and insensitive? After all, perception seems to be so important when deciding that a word is evil? It's fine to sing songs that invoke fear based on people's experiences (rationally or not), but it's not fine to use a word that causes hurt based on people's experiences?

[PostmanPot]

Please don't lump me with them.

Ok fine if you can legally corkscrew your way into justifying the song, then surely you have to agree that it is inappropriate and insensitive? After all, perception seems to be so important when deciding that a word is evil? It's fine to sing songs that invoke fear based on people's experiences (rationally or not), but it's not fine to use a word that causes hurt based on people's experiences?

In the same light denying their [now legal] right to sing and commemorate their struggle, is also insensitive. To them it could mean undermining their struggle (which to many is not over yet).

Shoot the Boer has been argued in SA's highest court from all sides. All you've left me feeling is unenlightened and that you lack the empathy to differentiate and separate racist Tweets, fear monger suggestions of genocide, and legal political songs. I am left only to deduce that you have been programmed to cross wires in such a way that your supposedly reasoned outcome is exactly what you wanted to hear before giving it some thought.

I don't expect to have rocked your world either. The bottom line is that respect is a two way street.

Good day! :)

[Sinbad]

In the same light denying their [now legal] right to sing and commemorate their struggle, is also insensitive. To them it could mean undermining their struggle (which to many is not over yet).

Shoot the Boer has been argued in SA's highest court from all sides. All you've left me feeling is unenlightened and that you lack the empathy to differentiate and separate racist Tweets, fear monger suggestions of genocide, and legal political songs. I am left only to deduce that you have been programmed to cross wires in such a way that your supposedly reasoned outcome is exactly what you wanted to hear before giving it some thought.

I don't expect to have rocked your world either. The bottom line is that respect is a two way street.

Good day! :)

Well then we have an impasse. Immovable object, irresistible force etc.
So there can be no solution, right? Other than for one side to suck it up and suffer in silence?
No middle ground?
Not all struggle songs are as blatantly violent as kill the boer, are they? I'm sure I've heard some pretty uplifting ones too... Why not sing those? They provide a good message for everyone. Insisting on singing the violent ones merely shows what I perceive to be a will to intimidate at a time when this country desperately needs to pull together.

[Apache]

Wow that's hectic. Calling for genocide. They should actually take her to the International Court and try her for trying to incite genocide.

[Bizkit87]

Wow that's hectic. Calling for genocide. They should actually take her to the International Court and try her for trying to incite genocide.

No no no, PostmanPot says there is no call for, or 'incitement' of genocide, that's good enough for me...

/sarcasm.

[Apache]

Wow and she deleted most of her postings ! ! ! She must have spend lots of times sorting out the mess she got into.

Looks like she has deleted her twitter account. Don't know if that has been posted in this thread.

[Nicodeamus]

Woah, your grandfather's generation? I knew about the Great Trek and the reasons for it, I had no idea that the British enforced things like that so recently!

seeing that he was 45 years old when my mother was born :), I am actually way younger then you.

Either way I never met him only heard the stories :)

[Easter Bunny]

i was talking to my wife about these two racist models. she reckons that when white people have a racist comment like that, it gets escallated quick. the response to her comment was mostly death threats and people saying that she must watch out where she goes now because she's going to be killed/raped (loosely quoting news24 comments from what i was told).

instead of condemning her, people now feel the need to out do her comment.

i just laugh at everyone when they comment on how south africa is a rolemodel for racial harmony and all kinds of bullpoop.

affirmative action, suidlanders, farm killings, cops beating up shebeen owners, black school not wanting an indian principal (newish story).... etc etc *yawn*

this doesn't mean i agree with the k-word tweet. i disagree with the reply as well. just as much. they should both be punnished equally, but that will never happen.

[wily me]

i was talking to my wife about these two racist models. she reckons that when white people have a racist comment like that, it gets escallated quick. the response to her comment was mostly death threats and people saying that she must watch out where she goes now because she's going to be killed/raped (loosely quoting news24 comments from what i was told).

instead of condemning her, people now feel the need to out do her comment.

i just laugh at everyone when they comment on how south africa is a rolemodel for racial harmony and all kinds of bullpoop.

affirmative action, suidlanders, farm killings, cops beating up shebeen owners, black school not wanting an indian principal (newish story).... etc etc *yawn*

this doesn't mean i agree with the k-word tweet. i disagree with the reply as well. just as much. they should both be punnished equally, but that will never happen.

yeah, well summarized! It all a typical SA racism joke.

[Brawler]

has she been fired yet?

[Fudzy]

has she been fired yet?

Her agent probably doesn't know about the uproar yet.

[daveza]

http://www.iol.co.za/news/politics/racism-on-social-media-a-concern-1.1291549


The SA Human Rights Commission has received 45 complaints against model Jessica Leandra Dos Santos after her racist tweet.

The commission, however, said it received none against actress Tshidi Thamane who has also sparked a furore with her racist tweet in response to Dos Santos.

Definitive proof that blacks can't be racist.

[PostmanPot]

http://www.iol.co.za/news/politics/racism-on-social-media-a-concern-1.1291549



Definitive proof that blacks can't be racist.

So the Commission is lying?

[Wyzak]

According to http://www.iol.co.za/news/politics/racism-on-social-media-a-concern-1.1291549 the SAHRC received 45 complaints about dos Santos and ZERO about Tshidi Thamane. I have now submitted a complaint.
Thank you for submitting your complaint to the Registrar.

[Wyzak]

this doesn't mean i agree with the k-word tweet. i disagree with the reply as well. just as much. they should both be punnished equally, but that will never happen.

I agree that both should be punished, but not equally. You can't compare one person insulting an anonymous person who possibly deserved it, to calling for the genocide of an entire race.

[TheHiveMind]

White people are so gdamned pathetic, lying down, justifying the kicks they get. They deserve to be exploited and subjugated by other races who will actively pursue their goup interests like rational people.

"That was a really good one, I felt the heel that time. Ooohh is that a steel tipped toe? Very good taste if I do say so myself, sir. Here, let me offer you my crotch. No don't worry, I haven't had balls for some time now."

[Fudzy]

Sheesh it just goes to prove which group are more pro-active.

[Bizkit87]

According to http://www.iol.co.za/news/politics/racism-on-social-media-a-concern-1.1291549 the SAHRC received 45 complaints about dos Santos and ZERO about Tshidi Thamane. I have now submitted a complaint.

Please provide a link, i will also lay a complaint.

45 for k-word, 0 for "kill all whites"

so you can kill an entire race, just don't use the k-word...

[STS]

It's a metaphor when [legally] used to commemorate the struggle. It's hate speech when used to hate. There is a difference and my admission that the Twitts and their Tweets are racist and can garner other racists, by default means I agree it's hate speech, and am vehemently against it. The problem to me is is that you cannot seem to separate the two. When you see a crowd different, marching and singing their songs, your upbringing, emotion and influences dictate to you that it is inherently hatred, calls for genocide, etc.

Let me repeat so we are clear on what the real issue is. There are no calls for white genocide, nor is there white genocide. A Tweet from a Twit is no call for genocide, and not comparable to other nonsense-official genocide watch ratings or other nonsense-statistic websites or any other semi realistic suggestions.

And to be crystal clear, I do understand how emotions etc. can lead to different people having various negative and racial thoughts and beliefs.

If you think I am muddying the water though, then you lack empathy for others.

I'm sure you, Leandra and the other one are good people at the end of the day. ;)

buy this man a bells

[STS]

Please provide a link, i will also lay a complaint.

45 for k-word, 0 for "kill all whites"

so you can kill an entire race, just don't use the k-word...

go count the sites making up bull**** about Uhuru, i'm sure they more than make up for the lack of complaints

[STS]

The SA Human Rights Commission has received 45 complaints against model Jessica Leandra Dos Santos after her racist tweet.

The commission, however, said it received none against actress Tshidi Thamane who has also sparked a furore with her racist tweet in response to Dos Santos.


an another thing ...

are we going to assume all 45 complaints were only by black people? :p

[R13...]

Please provide a link, i will also lay a complaint.

45 for k-word, 0 for "kill all whites"

so you can kill an entire race, just don't use the k-word...
I guess as we are always getting told here - white people just aren't easy to offend;)

[Bizkit87]

go count the sites making up bull**** about Uhuru, i'm sure they more than make up for the lack of complaints

WTF are you on about? i don't care about them or Uhuru, i care about the obvious different treatments, i care about the fact that there are more complaints for using the k-word, than there are for calling for the killing of an entire race?

Did you jut want to up your post count here? WTF are you trying to say?!

[Bizkit87]

I guess as we are always getting told here - white people just aren't easy to offend;)

Not good enough...

what's good for the goose... well, you know the saying.

[PostmanPot]

WTF are you on about? i don't care about them or Uhuru, i care about the obvious different treatments, i care about the fact that there are more complaints for using the k-word, than there are for calling for the killing of an entire race?

Did you jut want to up your post count here? WTF are you trying to say?!

Dude, wake up. The original Tweet would have offended way more people because it was the first to make news. Also, since it was racism attributed to blacks, there could have +-6 times the amount of people in SA affected, compared to if it was racism attributed to whites.

That or the Commission are lying. Or perhaps they've only checked their PO Box, and haven't checked their email. It's likely...

[TheHiveMind]

Dude, wake up. The original Tweet would have offended way more people because it was the first to make news. Also, since it was racism attributed to blacks, there could have +-6 times the amount of people in SA affected, compared to if it was racism attributed to whites.

That or the Commission are lying. Or perhaps they've only checked their PO Box, and haven't checked their email. It's likely...

/sticks a "kick me" sign on Postmans back, then kicks him

[PostmanPot]

*dodge*

[hsmnel]

According to http://www.iol.co.za/news/politics/racism-on-social-media-a-concern-1.1291549 the SAHRC received 45 complaints about dos Santos and ZERO about Tshidi Thamane. I have now submitted a complaint.

Have also submitted one - please follow suit instead of just making comments, start to do something.

[Mila]

so because 60% of people were offended 80% and 40% were offended 80% the 60% is more offended... jisliaak. I can forunderstand our schooling system.

[STS]

WTF are you on about? i don't care about them or Uhuru, i care about the obvious different treatments, i care about the fact that there are more complaints for using the k-word, than there are for calling for the killing of an entire race?

Did you jut want to up your post count here? WTF are you trying to say?!

this racism has been going on for longer than one article. i know you haven't got a wig up your arse about the black person wishing death on all white humankind, you are pissed at the hypocrisy that people complain about the k word and nobody complains about the genocide stint.

now if you are creative enough you can find websites and groups who are filled with racist twats who do NOTHING but complain about black people. they must be having a field day with the black model and are probably defending the white model to death. they use different mediums, but they are there. there are people who organise white only protests and who go on about how white people must defend themselves, and they all forget one important thing - we're all human.

these are two stupid cows who are a waste of oxygen. you shouldn't be worrying about the number of complaints because all the is suggesting is that you have no faith in black people to use their intelligence. of course black people won't agree with her. of course white people will be offended. but matters of race are idiotic and if we keep obsessing over them then nothing is going to change.

[daveza]

of course black people won't agree with her. of course white people will be offended. but matters of race are idiotic and if we keep obsessing over them then nothing is going to change.

So you're suggesting we just do nothing about racism and it will heal itself ?

That only the white racists must be hauled before the HRC ?

[STS]

So you're suggesting we just do nothing about racism and it will heal itself ?

That only the white racists must be hauled before the HRC ?

i'm suggesting that obsessing over how many members of each race report someone shouldn't reflect the society we live in. if that is the case then how come only white people end up winning idols?

[daveza]

i'm suggesting that obsessing over how many members of each race report someone shouldn't reflect the society we live in

I don't think the unhappiness is due to only black people only reporting the white model - I'm sure white people also found it offensive enough to take action.

What doesn't gel is that nobody, black or white, apparently took the black racist to task.

[Sinbad]

What doesn't gel is that nobody, black or white, apparently took the black racist to task.

They did. Justice Project SA laid a complaint over the weekend. HRC just don't seem to have processed it. Although, JPSA named both models. So maybe that screwed up their search.