Split ANC will benefit democracy – FW de Klerk

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IOL said:
Former president and Nobel peace prize winner FW de Klerk said the ANC needed to split, as the country couldn’t be a healthy democracy with just one party.

He urged South Africans to not vote based on ethnicity, but rather vote for a party chosen for their values and policies.

“In the next general election we should not be certain which party will win,” he said, referring to the ANC’s majority.

“We need to break down the historical bonds, which is ethnicity,” said De Klerk, adding that people needed to vote for a party based on the party’s values and policies.

His appearance in Durban yesterday also came in the wake of a controversial interview conducted by CNN chief international correspondent Christiane Amanpour. The interview was broadcast on CNN and sparked outrage on networking websites such as Twitter.

Amanpour asked if apartheid failed because it was unworkable or because it was “morally repugnant”. De Klerk said: “There are three reasons. It failed because the whites wanted to keep too much land for themselves, it failed because we (whites and blacks) became economically integrated, and it failed because the majority of blacks said that is not how we want our rights.”

He had also reaffirmed his belief in “separate but equal” nation states. “I don’t apologise for saying that what drove me as a young man, before I decided we need to embrace a new vision, was a quest to bring justice for black South Africans in a way which would not – that’s what I believed then – destroy the justice to which my people were entitled,” he said.

I wonder what would actually happen if the party split. Top leaders would have to leave for it have any effect, anything lower than high ranking NEC members wouldn't really shake the party.

I think then we'd see how committed public servants actually are to serving the state (ie, the people), and not just the ANC. It's something that I find really troubling. SANDF soldiers and SAPS officers are supposed to be loyal to the state, and whichever government happens to be there, not political parties. Our safety and security cluster departments are so incredibly politicised that this could really be a national security concern if the ANC do lose a national election.
 
There is no distinction between state & anc in SA, even on the news you hear reporters talking about the anc when it should be the government.
 
I wonder what would actually happen if the party split. Top leaders would have to leave for it have any effect, anything lower than high ranking NEC members wouldn't really shake the party.

I think then we'd see how committed public servants actually are to serving the state (ie, the people), and not just the ANC. It's something that I find really troubling. SANDF soldiers and SAPS officers are supposed to be loyal to the state, and whichever government happens to be there, not political parties. Our safety and security cluster departments are so incredibly politicised that this could really be a national security concern if the ANC do lose a national election.

It already split, remember? Didn't have much effect on anything though. And Shilowa and Lekota were pretty high up.
 
It already split, remember? Didn't have much effect on anything though. And Shilowa and Lekota were pretty high up.

COPE imploded from within too bad though cause I really thought they would be a viable opposition to the ANC
 
yeah, right :rolleyes:

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The Economist Intelligence Unit's Democracy Index as published in December 2010. The palest blue countries get a score above 9 out of 10 (with Norway being the most democratic country at 9.80), while the black countries score below 3 (with North Korea being the least democratic at 1.08).


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Political ratings of countries according to Freedom House’s Freedom in the World survey, 2011:
Green - Free
Yellow - Partly free
Purple - Not free


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Countries highlighted in blue are designated "electoral democracies" in Freedom House's 2010 survey Freedom in the World
 
It already split, remember? Didn't have much effect on anything though. And Shilowa and Lekota were pretty high up.

The party didn't split, a few people within the party split off. Lekota and Shilowa were already isolated and without influence within the party, so their departure wasn't that big of a deal. I'm talking about large scale desertion, like a third or half of the NEC leaving.
 
If there's is still any doubt ... I'm talking about political projection and not political reflection.

Democracy isn't meant for Africa. Democracy is about making a choice.

If people find it difficult to make a choice they usually go for the biggest cloud and just follow that ... easy.
 
If there's is still any doubt ... I'm talking about political projection and not political reflection.

Democracy isn't meant for Africa. Democracy is about making a choice.

If people find it difficult to make a choice they usually go for the biggest cloud and just follow that ... easy.
Why are you using this thread/article to suggest democracy doesn't work in Africa. Honest question.
 
Why are you using this thread/article to suggest democracy doesn't work in Africa. Honest question.

I don't think the observation is far off the mark. It warrants some debate though.
 
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