Outrage over 'crime moaners' remark

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During debate on his budget vote on Thursday, Nqakula said: "They can continue to whinge until they're blue in the face... be as negative as they want to, or they can simply leave this country so that all of the peace-loving South Africans, good South African people who want to make this a successful country, can continue with their work."
http://iafrica.com/news/sa/481039.htm
 
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Same story same sH@t, I disagreed strongly with this attitude of the GVT on this issue, who use the old rhetoric to sideline the truth and 5 specific forumites were of the opposite view, ANC supporters naturally. Tibby the leader of course! as usual the race-card got pulled in no time and there is even a gripe out blaming the Mods for been biased and racist. These race zealots will try anything to keep these truths from the air! So much for free speech.
 
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Same story same sH@t, I disagreed strongly with this attitude of the GVT on this issue, who use the old rhetoric to sideline the truth and 5 specific forumites were of the opposite view, ANC supporters naturally. Tibby the leader of course! as usual the race-card got pulled in no time and there is even a gripe out blaming the Mods for been biased and racist. These race zealots will try anything to keep these truths from the air! So much for free speech.
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Who are the 5 ANC supporters you are whining about?
 
There was already a thread about this. It was 'neutralized'.

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"The minister's defence that 'It makes sense that the president sends his safety and security minister to help our friends in other countries' can never be accepted when, by the minister's own statistics, every day 51 South Africans are murdered, 151 rapes are reported by women and children and 347 armed robberies take place."
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IMHO the citizens of South Africa should moan and b1tch about this till the ANC controlled Government takes action. The first action should be to immediately dismiss useless Ministers. I wait upon our President to act immediately and decisively. This cannot be tolerated.
 
VJB 449 said:
IMHO the citizens of South Africa should moan and b1tch about this till the ANC controlled Government takes action. The first action should be to immediately dismiss useless Ministers. I wait upon our President to act immediately and decisively. This cannot be tolerated.
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Ivy first.
 
ignacio said:
Who are the 5 ANC supporters you are whining about?
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Everyone that highlights my signature and agree that the shoe fits. I just read through the whole thread again and see nothing said as racist or the other benign, I have seen and endured worse! Deserved Rhetoric against the ANC ministers remarks based on the topic at hand and the direct outflow of it questioning the version of democracy the ANC sees as "normal" Yes. Facts and Truths YES. Why the thread were locked was my direct answer on your racist based assumptions again like in other threads!
 
"The minister's defence that 'It makes sense that the president sends his safety and security minister to help our friends in other countries' can never be accepted when, by the minister's own statistics, every day 51 South Africans are murdered, 151 rapes are reported by women and children and 347 armed robberies take place"
Surely Charity begins at home?
 
There was already a thread about this. It was 'neutralized'.

"The minister's defence that 'It makes sense that the president sends his safety and security minister to help our friends in other countries' can never be accepted when, by the minister's own statistics, every day 51 South Africans are murdered, 151 rapes are reported by women and children and 347 armed robberies take place."
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IMHO the citizens of South Africa should moan and b1tch about this till the ANC controlled Government takes action. The first action should be to immediately dismiss useless Ministers. I wait upon our President to act immediately and decisively. This cannot be tolerated.
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Its was locked for unknown reason. Regards to your comments we agree, but then the ANC inclusive of Mbeki is always traveling and interfering somewhere else instead of tending the home base. The fact that we must help Zim as priority for our own security, if we do not even have any security is another ANC farce!
 
pupa said:
Everyone that highlights my signature and agree that the shoe fits. I just read through the whole thread again and see nothing said as racist or the other benign, I have seen and endured worse! Deserved Rhetoric against the ANC ministers remarks based on the topic at hand and the direct outflow of it questioning the version of democracy the ANC sees as "normal" Yes. Facts and Truths YES. Why the thread were locked was my direct answer on your racist based assumptions again like in other threads!
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Logic is not your strong point and you are barely coherent, which means that in one post you say you both saw nothing racist and yet I was racist. I am sure you make sense to someone. If you would go back you might see someone with your handle having a little hissy fit for no reason and that is why the thread was closed. I suspect you think you are the forum bulldog, when we all realise you are more like a chihuahua - barking mindlessly about all sorts of perceived evils - but if you would bother to think before you post - as previously suggested - you might actually realise I try to remain objectively critical or complimentary of all sides in this equation.






I'd be surprised if you made it this far in my post - usually it is just hit reply and a flurry of nonsensical yapping you pass off as something worth while saying, while we see it as a waste of our bandwidth.
 
ignacio said:
Logic is not your strong point and you are barely coherent, which means that in one post you say you both saw nothing racist and yet I was racist. I am sure you make sense to someone. If you would go back you might see someone with your handle having a little hissy fit for no reason and that is why the thread was closed. I suspect you think you are the forum bulldog, when we all realise you are more like a chihuahua - barking mindlessly about all sorts of perceived evils - but if you would bother to think before you post - as previously suggested - you might actually realise I try to remain objectively critical or complimentary of all sides in this equation.






I'd be surprised if you made it this far in my post - usually it is just hit reply and a flurry of nonsensical yapping you pass off as something worth while saying, while we see it as a waste of our bandwidth.
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The post covered a few threads in particular the one You called me an "racist pig" the mods deleted it as that is what you do. Now you see, pissed of again? and doing what you were doing all along, all over again resorting and starting the name calling and comparisons as in the other threads as well as with Prometheas thread. Typical, and clearly by now expected! Anyway we are not all born with enough grey matter so you are excused. Your tantrums wont effect me. I see, as with all your threads re temperature and the lot, even more wastage of bandwidth and less coherance. I do not complain as for one I have ample no cap bandthwidth, can afford it and have lots of time! So why be bothered what you post? but I will not crawl under a bed as you would love me to do! I ahave as much right as you here and the only ones that can deny me that is RPM or the mods. They have a little more sense than you zealots. Therefore the popularity of this forum!
 
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Pupa it doesn't mean that if somebody disagrees with your reasoning that they are automatically an ANC supporter :) I'm sure that a lot of people disagree with this ministers comments, probably lots of ANC supporters as well. There are good people in all parties - Zille for the DA, Manuel for the ANC, Vos for the IFP etc. - however each also has their fair share of rotten eggs. This is politics, and in the end boils down to money and a battle of power. But don't be fooled into thinking that the DA is this country's knight in shining armour, they're a political party as any other and in the end they're after the same thing as any party - power.
 
I am sure you will provide evidence to back up this lie
You called me an "racist pig" the mods deleted it
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or should we have the mods search through the deleted threads to prove you a liar?

I bet nobody cares any more about your bitching about me in this or other threads... how about we just drop it?

I would not call you a "racist pig" - since that would take the debate down to your level - but hell, "If the shoe fits wear it".
 
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Pupa it doesn't mean that if somebody disagrees with your reasoning that they are automatically an ANC supporter :) I'm sure that a lot of people disagree with this ministers comments, probably lots of ANC supporters as well. There are good people in all parties - Zille for the DA, Manuel for the ANC, Vos for the IFP etc. - however each also has their fair share of rotten eggs. This is politics, and in the end boils down to money and a battle of power. But don't be fooled into thinking that the DA is this country's knight in shining armour, they're a political party as any other and in the end they're after the same thing as any party - power.
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I agree I am not in particular a supporter of them I just do not like the way the ANC operated in the cape. Where this story comes from is in some threads when I slammer the ANC these guys in particular give me a hard time. Quiet enjoyable and lots of fun. But I agree I must tone down and give them the floor! They run the country anyway and as Ignacio preaches we as white folk should be quiet, go on our knees and thank the ANC for still benign alive after we apologized for the sins of our fathers and the world!
 
pupa said:
They run the country anyway and as Ignacio preaches we as white folk should be quiet, go on our knees and thank the ANC for still benign alive after we apologized for the sins of our fathers and the world!
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Evidence, link, support?! - or more barking from the forum chihuahua?
 
Highflyer_GP said:
Pupa it doesn't mean that if somebody disagrees with your reasoning that they are automatically an ANC supporter :) I'm sure that a lot of people disagree with this ministers comments, probably lots of ANC supporters as well. There are good people in all parties - Zille for the DA, Manuel for the ANC, Vos for the IFP etc. - however each also has their fair share of rotten eggs. This is politics, and in the end boils down to money and a battle of power. But don't be fooled into thinking that the DA is this country's knight in shining armour, they're a political party as any other and in the end they're after the same thing as any party - power.
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If they don’t agree with me, THEY ARE WRONG.he he he:D :D
 
ignacio said:
I am sure you will provide evidence to back up this lie
or should we have the mods search through the deleted threads to prove you a liar?

I bet nobody cares any more about your bitching about me in this or other threads... how about we just drop it?

I would not call you a "racist pig" - since that would take the debate down to your level - but hell, "If the shoe fits wear it".
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Thanks and I agree, Maybe it was one of the others posters I will check and fix the comment as maybe I am confused now. But a Liar I am wrong maybe, but have no reason to be a liar! But while we at levels it was you that dragged the other threads down the pits like this one now not? or is that also a lie. I will stand to my points, I ask questions state facts and try to stay away from calling names etc. Just stop your remarks as below because you drag these debates down too! with your unintelligent quirks. Just highlight my whole sig then maybe you will be able to understand!
 
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pupa said:
Thanks and I agree, Maybe it was one of the others posters I will check and fix the comment as maybe I am confused now. But a Liar I am wrong maybe, but have no reason to be a liar!
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You may check SteveV's posts - he called you guys that a bunch of times - but yes, you are wrong or a liar in this case: you decide.
 
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