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lilDeath
05-06-2006, 01:50 PM
Hiya ppl, dunno if this belongs in this section (feel free to move mods) but here goes... :D
I am up for a cell upgrade and not too sure on what to get.

Any opinions or real life experiences would be appreciated.

I currently have Nokia 6230, previously had Nokia 6310i.
I am disappointed in the 6230, not long battery life and signal sucks bad.

I am looking for mostly a connectivity-based cell phone most of all, doesn't have to be 3g (but it will be a +), gprs, bluetooth, good battery-life, signal strength, etc. Cam, music, storage capacity would all b optionals.
If it looks good too it is a bonus!!

lemme hear ;)

freeek
05-06-2006, 01:55 PM
LG choclate

hj2k_x
05-06-2006, 01:58 PM
Still going with the Sony Ericssons. I have the K750i and its hard to fault. Can get the w800i if u prefer it in white with a 512MB memory stick...

Or the most recent version is the W810i, which is black like the K750i and would get my vote. Check out sonyericsson.co.za for more info :)

And no, i am not affiliated with SE in any way b4 u ask...

Just my 2c :)

lilDeath
05-06-2006, 02:07 PM
LG choclate
dude, did u just feel like spinning any name you could think of???
This phone has like absolutely NO features.... it's just a phone :(

lilDeath
05-06-2006, 02:09 PM
Still going with the Sony Ericssons. I have the K750i and its hard to fault. Can get the w800i if u prefer it in white with a 512MB memory stick...

Or the most recent version is the W810i, which is black like the K750i and would get my vote. Check out sonyericsson.co.za for more info :)

And no, i am not affiliated with SE in any way b4 u ask...

Just my 2c :)
hhmmm ok thx hj..
I have tried the SE before, I didnt like their menu's and navigation. Has it changed from a view years back?
Is the W900 not the big brother of the W800?

Trip
05-06-2006, 02:09 PM
dude, did u just feel like spinning any name you could think of???
This phone has like absolutely NO features.... it's just a phone :(

/doh :D

ebendl
05-06-2006, 02:19 PM
You are going to have problems beating the 6310i's battery life - that was one of the best ever!

From a battery perspective, stay away from the 3G phones, rather go for something with EDGE. Most 3G phones only get about 2 days worth of juice.

lilDeath
05-06-2006, 02:38 PM
You are going to have problems beating the 6310i's battery life - that was one of the best ever!

From a battery perspective, stay away from the 3G phones, rather go for something with EDGE. Most 3G phones only get about 2 days worth of juice.
hhmmm... ok will def check this out.
I currently use GPRS on 6230 if I have to... within an hour 1/2 the phone needs to be recharged (from being fully charged). so ye... guess the same woud apply to 3G phones, especially if it is permanently on... :eek:

ebendl
05-06-2006, 02:41 PM
Wow, that seems a bit too bad... Granted, I never use my phone for consistant GPRS/3G (I have a 6680, alwyas on 3G), but I use it for casual browsing, SMSing, phoning and emailing (it automatically checks two acounts every 1 hour) and it lasts me two days...

lilDeath
05-06-2006, 02:46 PM
I'm really disappointed in the 6230 in the 2 areas of signal and battery life
The worst choice I have yet made in a cell phone.
battery is still fine but signal strength being bad... :(
but it's lasted me 2 years, so ye....

JStrike
05-06-2006, 02:55 PM
The D600 is still the best phone out there
The new Motorola RAZR is also supposed to be pretty good (RAZRx or RAZRi or something of the sort)

lilDeath
05-06-2006, 03:04 PM
The Samsung D600? They stopped making this phone, apparently because it aint the THING anymore..
They got a new one they punting (dont recall name now)
Are u talking about the Sliver phone when talking bout Razr?

MadAtter
05-06-2006, 03:05 PM
nokia have kinda lost the plot recently but their "n series" shows some hope.
My dad has a motorola, my mom has a samsung and me and my Sis have sony ericsons. Sony E's are probably the most feature filled and easy to use. a mate of mine has the W810i and it is incredible

MrE
05-06-2006, 03:18 PM
Got a W800i, ..looove it, the navigation on SE's are sweet, ..ye the W810i has EDGE, ..W900i is cool, but a little fat depth-wise, and I don't want to have to twist my phone every time I want to use it.
Great 2MP Auto-Focus Camera, as good as it gets at the mo.
'cept, the W810i doesn't have a lens cover, pity..
I prefer the W800i.. tho I wouldn't mind finding a black cover for it, not because I don't like the colour, just that I'm sure aging will be more noticable on a light coloured phone.

greg_SA
05-06-2006, 03:35 PM
There are very few phones with a nice big colour screen and good battery life...

I just keep a charger at home and at work... When I use the 3G connection with my PC, I plug in the charger every time...

Oh, this is for a 6680 - I'm very happy with it. :D

jjtoymachine
05-06-2006, 03:54 PM
The W800i looks awesome, would really dig one myself

JStrike
05-06-2006, 03:57 PM
lilDeath : You are thinking about the Samsubg D820. It is not a replacement for the D600, but an entirely different model. Smaller form factor, less features

And no, I wasn't talking about the SLVR. I was talking about the RAZR

MadAtter : Yep, Nokia have been making junk phone for ages now (and lost a ton of market share due to it). They finally make some nice sliding phones about the sise of the D500/600, but forget to add any features. A VGA camera! Stupid Nokia
But the N series seems to be their attempt at getting back in the game. The N91 looks quite good with some good features (although it's mp3 player is dead in the water)

doobiwan
05-06-2006, 04:05 PM
best current 3G phone: Nokia n70 - about 3 days fair usage
Best current non-3G Phone: SE W810i is (almost) out - w800+ edge.

hj2k_x
05-06-2006, 04:34 PM
lilDeath : You are thinking about the Samsubg D820. It is not a replacement for the D600, but an entirely different model. Smaller form factor, less features


Yes, my mate has one of these. Looks really good. Slidy phone and very thin...But really lacking on features, like no expandable memory in this day and age?! :confused:

Juggy
05-06-2006, 04:50 PM
Nokia N70 or N90, Sony Ericsson P990 or an Imate.

lilDeath
05-06-2006, 04:55 PM
thx guys nice responses thus far...
keep em coming :D

telkomsuig
05-06-2006, 04:59 PM
If you can stretch to the Imate I would go for that.... (can't remember what the latest one is called)

lilDeath
05-06-2006, 05:10 PM
I saw the new 'flip' (or clam shell) Imate... u talking bout this one?

Brawler
05-06-2006, 05:23 PM
ATM the Sony Ericssons are probably your best choices. Nokia have lost the plot (besides N-series), Samsungs are good although the latest offerings arent the spectacular, the D820 is cr@p. Motorola's are generally ***** IMO but i must admit I like the RAZR-i its like the normal RAZR just with memory card and XVGA cam with vid. I used to change phones every 6 months or so but since i have had my d500 there has been nothing really worthwhile to upgrade to. If you watched carte blanche yesterday you would have seem the new Sagem TV - phones which are currently being tested, they reckon by september they'll be available.

Whatever you do dont get a vodaphone branded phone, it'll drive you mad

ebendl
05-06-2006, 05:33 PM
Whatever you do dont get a vodaphone branded phone, it'll drive you mad

Not sure about the new Nokia N-series branded ones, but on the 6680 you can disable just about anything regarding Vodafone - you would not realise mine is Vodafone.

Brawler
05-06-2006, 05:36 PM
Not the SE or the samsungs

hj2k_x
05-06-2006, 07:34 PM
Not the SE or the samsungs
Dude they are like the best phones on the market right now! What would u go for??

Brawler
05-06-2006, 08:31 PM
Dude they are like the best phones on the market right now! What would u go for??

DUDE, read my posts previous posts please before posting:o


ATM the Sony Ericssons are probably your best choices., Samsungs are good
Whatever you do dont get a vodaphone branded phone, it'll drive you mad


you can disable just about anything regarding Vodafone


Not the SE or the samsungs
;)

lilDeath
05-06-2006, 09:26 PM
nice, saw the RAZR VX3 or summin in a CellC shop...the phone looks jammin and is loaded wth all the neat stuff...
Opinions / experiences on this one?

I thought the D820 looked cool too...doesnt have 3G tho but I am hearing it aint good. :confused:

The shops have very little SE in stock :(

nivek
05-06-2006, 09:37 PM
cell c's range sucks, im also due for an upgrade, ive been due since march but been postponing it hoping a nice phone comes along, was considering the w800 though.. seems to be the best at the moment, that or the n70... but i wanna wait till number portability, im sure there'll be some decent offers around that time

Juggy
05-06-2006, 10:09 PM
If you can stretch to the Imate I would go for that.... (can't remember what the latest one is called)

I have the SP3i which is OK, the Jam is pretty good too.

brazz
06-06-2006, 07:21 AM
Motorola handsets are in a different league these days compared to where they were a couple of years ago. Menu's are easy to navigate. Just stay away from Vodafone models - they seem to be more "crippled" and slow when compared to the standard models.

6680 (a little bit old now) and N70 are also great phones. Battery life with 3G switched off is great. Using 3G battery life dwindles much quicker.

mak2000
06-06-2006, 08:13 AM
I liked V3x as well, but when I went to Vodashop yesterday the guy told me that they were having problems with the software on these phones..

thisgeek
06-06-2006, 09:23 AM
I saw the new 'flip' (or clam shell) Imate... u talking bout this one?

No, he's probably referring to the Imate JAMin (http://www.imate.com/t-DETAILS_JAMIN.aspx).

I want to get one of those babies, but it's probably gonna be too expensive.

lilDeath
06-06-2006, 09:19 PM
I liked V3x as well, but when I went to Vodashop yesterday the guy told me that they were having problems with the software on these phones...
darn it!!
Well it seems to be between one Nokia, Imate, SE then

CIS
07-06-2006, 11:37 AM
Hi guys - I'm also due for a upgrade this weekend, I sort of decided on the Nokia N80. I see Cell C is supplying them on their contracts but Vodacom is still full of ***** with testing etc etc............ :mad: One would think that by the time Nokia is prepared to flood the market with a model it should already be thoroughly tested !!!!! Anyway - any feedback from someone re the N80 ???? :rolleyes: The N90 is to big & bulky - I couldn't care less about a Carl Zeisss blah blah blah camera either ! :D

lilDeath
07-06-2006, 02:33 PM
hhhmmm N80?? haven't thought about this one
When is the N91 coming out?

CIS
07-06-2006, 03:14 PM
hhhmmm N80?? haven't thought about this one
When is the N91 coming out?
Dagse kleindood............ Don't know when the N91 is coming but the N80 is om the market - now it's just to get one !!!!! It's got all the right connectivity stuff including wifi and looks much more compact than the N90. Def one to consider.

lilDeath
07-06-2006, 03:33 PM
Dagse, Mooi Man.
Ek sal n bietjie dieper ondersoek instel op daardie ene ;)
<<translate>>
"Hi, great dude.
I will investigate a bit more in depth wrt this one ;)"

CIS
07-06-2006, 03:36 PM
Dagse, Mooi Man.
Ek sal n bietjie dieper ondersoek instel op daardie ene ;)
<<translate>>
"Hi, great dude.
I will investigate a bit more in depth wrt this one ;)"
Dis reg so - het gaan kyk by Nokia, hulle trek nou al by N93............ Ons behoort dit seker so teen 2010 te sien Hahahhahhha. Als is mos maar stadiger die kant van die wereld jong !!! Loer so effe na daai N80 - ek scheme dis die ding nou !! Ek het 'n SE P900i op die oomblik - geen issues nie , baie lekker foon maar die ontvang is van tyd tot tyd maar k@kkerig ! :D

lilDeath
07-06-2006, 03:58 PM
signal reception must be good on a phone. !!
this is a must for me

PDonut
07-06-2006, 09:54 PM
Just a little rant but im fed up with playing this upgrading game where the phone you really want is never available. Sonyericsson pisses me off cause they advertise on their website their next latest and greatest phones pretending that they are actually being productive meanwhile its at least 6 months before u hear any word of a release obviously by which time they're flogging their next ideas at an electronics conference for something thats obviously gonna be better and cheaper.

It seems like they employ 100 times as many "hip" designers and arty morons as they do actual engineers and technitions. Its become a business of selling ideas and public image now instead of actual products.

I guess this post might be kinda pointless cause i understand thats its all profit driven (and who doesnt love money and succes) but sometimes as a lowly student and consumer i wish i could just cut their hearts out with a rusty spoon just to make a point

NGR
08-06-2006, 12:35 AM
I was looking for a Sony Erriccson. Unfortunately what i wanted was not available.

Ended up going for the Nokia N70 - just need to say this is a BRILLIANT phone. I use it mainly for the net - dont have 3G coverage so mostly using EDGE. Comes with the cable and all software so you can be up and running in 10min - actually using it now to type this mail. Have some awesome features - set up ur mail and if you get an excel/pdf/word/powerpoint document the phone opens it all.

Battery - on the WHOLE day but about an hour ago it started beeping. So would say about 14 hours continued useage battery life.

Only con - the buttons are a bit small. Something you need to get used to! Camera is also pretty good - much MUCH better than the Sony i had before. Nice flash and everything - very good picture quality!

good luck!

lilDeath
08-06-2006, 09:27 AM
did the battery only last for 14 hrs?
This seems very shot to me, what were you doing?

NGR
08-06-2006, 09:31 AM
hmmmm maybe worded that badly. One the internet for 14 hours straight downloading updates and general mail and browsing.

Not too bad - the Sony has about the same battery life with continued use!

Gothan
08-06-2006, 09:54 AM
My next phone (comming in july), is probably going to be the imate k-jam (The one with the slide in keyboard). The reviews I've read about it has been excellent, on average getting about 4 out of 5.

Was waiting for the new P990, but nou ja, SE is dragging its feed.

Has anyone got the imate jasjar (the big one that folds open)? I hear that thing has a 5 mhz processor running in it

lilDeath
08-06-2006, 10:50 AM
hmmmm maybe worded that badly. One the internet for 14 hours straight downloading updates and general mail and browsing.

Not too bad - the Sony has about the same battery life with continued use!
ok, that sounds better. :D
almost gave me a fright there ;)

.geek
08-06-2006, 11:55 AM
Surely you can get D600's still? I have one, would recommend it.

http://www.samsung.com/za/products/mobilephone/handset/index.asp

lilDeath
08-06-2006, 12:23 PM
a guy in the office has a JasJar... it is HUGE!!
We always rip him for using a brick and using a trailer to carry the thing, etc etc :D
It is LOADED with features and functionality though

lilDeath
08-06-2006, 12:27 PM
My next phone (comming in july), is probably going to be the imate k-jam (The one with the slide in keyboard). The reviews I've read about it has been excellent, on average getting about 4 out of 5.
Some ppl in the office have had the older KJam and since moved to JAMin (latest jam) and another got the latest KJam...for the most they are happy with it, seems to be a bit cumbersome with using the phone for answering calls and stuff, but for the most they seem happy.

Gothan
08-06-2006, 12:58 PM
I like the pda function you get with the imate, the same reason my current phone is the p900. I dont mind that the kjam only has a 1.3mp camera, I hardly every use my cellphone camera as is. But I love the wifi capability and that it has EDGE, and the processor runs at just over 200 mhz, a bit faster then my p900.

The only thing I have against the kjam is, the rediculously small stylus, as phallic symbols go, this one is really lacking

hj2k_x
08-06-2006, 01:40 PM
hhmmm ok thx hj..
I have tried the SE before, I didnt like their menu's and navigation. Has it changed from a view years back?
Is the W900 not the big brother of the W800?
On that note, is there anyone out there with a K750i that knows how to take it apart completely? I need to get the dust and gunk out of the keys and expecially the turny joystick thing which has started to stick.

I dont want to take it into vodashop cos they took forever to sort out the last phones i took there, but i also dont want to break it...

mohammedm
08-06-2006, 02:30 PM
I am a techno junkie who lives for the data of his mobile. Had to upgrade my contract and did not know what to choose. I was waiting for the SE P990i, but the indications are that it will be here on in first week of August. So, I popped into the Nokia store and asked them what they had (N70 would not do as it did not have a radio). They showed me the N80 and the N91.

Differences between the 2:
N91 is bigger, slightly better build quality, only has one camera (2MP), but has 4GB of internal memory - iPod nano killer.
N80 is cute and sexy, has 2 cameras, one of which is a 3MP Carl Zeiss, and only has 40MB of internal memory - upgradeable to a 2GB mini SD card.

I chose the N80 on my CellC contract (free for R250pm - 100 free minutes anytime) - not bad.

In my opinion, the phone is the most technologically advanced handset at the moment. This is why:
1. Has 3G, EDGE and GPRS.
2. Has WLAN connectivity - I have used it at M&B hotspots - it rocks.
3. Automatic settings wizard.
4. Decent MP3 player and radio, although radio reception is dicey at times.
5. Predictive voice recognition - superb - you don't have to record voice tags for dialing.
6. Great camera.
7. Great styling and size.
8. Rock solid firmware - I have not had a crash in one week of rigorous testing, usage and installation of memory sapping applications.

Drawbacks:
1. Heavy usage means battery lasts only a day.
2. Doesn't support music streaming via bluetooth headsets.
3. Slide mechanism is not too sturdy.

IMHO - the N80 is the best handset out there at the moment - but obviously until some other company releases something else sometime soon.

icyrus
08-06-2006, 04:41 PM
I chose the N80 on my CellC contract (free for R250pm - 100 free minutes anytime) - not bad.

So Cell C had the N80 in stock? MTN tell me that is not currently available and wont be for a while...?

lilDeath
08-06-2006, 04:57 PM
I am a techno junkie who lives for the data of his mobile. Had to upgrade my contract and did not know what to choose. I was waiting for the SE P990i, but the indications are that it will be here on in first week of August. So, I popped into the Nokia store and asked them what they had (N70 would not do as it did not have a radio). They showed me the N80 and the N91.

Differences between the 2:
N91 is bigger, slightly better build quality, only has one camera (2MP), but has 4GB of internal memory - iPod nano killer.
N80 is cute and sexy, has 2 cameras, one of which is a 3MP Carl Zeiss, and only has 40MB of internal memory - upgradeable to a 2GB mini SD card.

I chose the N80 on my CellC contract (free for R250pm - 100 free minutes anytime) - not bad.

In my opinion, the phone is the most technologically advanced handset at the moment. This is why:
1. Has 3G, EDGE and GPRS.
2. Has WLAN connectivity - I have used it at M&B hotspots - it rocks.
3. Automatic settings wizard.
4. Decent MP3 player and radio, although radio reception is dicey at times.
5. Predictive voice recognition - superb - you don't have to record voice tags for dialing.
6. Great camera.
7. Great styling and size.
8. Rock solid firmware - I have not had a crash in one week of rigorous testing, usage and installation of memory sapping applications.

Drawbacks:
1. Heavy usage means battery lasts only a day.
2. Doesn't support music streaming via bluetooth headsets.
3. Slide mechanism is not too sturdy.

IMHO - the N80 is the best handset out there at the moment - but obviously until some other company releases something else sometime soon.
Great post! Thx.
Questions:
What is 'heavy usage'?
Does it have bluetooth?
Did you get data cables for connecting to pc's / other devices?
Any probs with signal reception on the phone?
Can you switch 3G off?

/realizes how lazy I have become... google knows all :D

CIS
08-06-2006, 05:18 PM
So Cell C had the N80 in stock? MTN tell me that is not currently available and wont be for a while...?
I heard the same ***** from Vodacom today - their still testing !!!!!!! When you walk into a Cell C shop they have it advertised on a poster in the shop with a cheapish contract. I've been 'n Vodacom customer spending approx R1000 per month on a cellphone bill but I have to pay for 9300i where some idiot off the street can get it for free with a new contract. These guys are really ripping us appart !!!!! I can't wait until 18/9/06 when the number mobility is operational and you can keep your current number and move to a new SP. F@ck Vodacom is all I can say. How can you be worse off, after 10 years of business with them, than a new guys off the street........... Make me livid !!!!!! :mad: Anyway - actually just wanted to confirm that Cell C is flogging N80's at this moment but appartently Nokia is running low on stock and it's becomming a major problem.

mohammedm
08-06-2006, 09:15 PM
Great post! Thx.
Questions:
What is 'heavy usage'?
Does it have bluetooth?
Did you get data cables for connecting to pc's / other devices?
Any probs with signal reception on the phone?
Can you switch 3G off?

/realizes how lazy I have become... google knows all :D

Questions:
What is 'heavy usage'?
Listening to radio in car to and from work - 20 minutes. 1 hour of MP3 usage per day. 20 minutes of playing games. 20 minutes of internet surfing. 25 minutes of transferring files with bluetooth. 1 minute of pc sync with cable to my secretary's pc, 30 minutes of calls. Battery lasts frpm 7am to 9pm.

Does it have bluetooth?
Yes. Very easy to use and configure.

Did you get data cables for connecting to pc's / other devices?
1. Comes with power cable which has a smaller adapter than previous Nokias. However, you get an additional adapter as well which allows you to connect the phone to an older type charger included free. 2. 128MB miniSD card in addition to 40MB internal memory. 3. Nokia stereo fashion headset. 4. Adapter to allow connection of standard earphones - i use it with my iPod earphones - better sound. 4. USB data cable for pc sync, file transfer etc. - can surf net with this and with BT option. 5. wrist strap.
The phone also has uPnP built in. This means you can connect it to other devices that have uPnP directly - pc's with WinXp home media edition, printers to print photos/files directly, even hifi systems so that you can stream your music from your phone directly to your hifi speakers.

Any probs with signal reception on the phone?
No great reception. Slightly stronger than my previous Siemens SX1 and my wife's 9500.

Can you switch 3G off?
Not sure what you mean. You can stop it automatically connecting to an access point, but I think it defaults to the fastest speed when transferring data. When surfing the net at my office, I use my wireless LAN connection to my office laptop. As a result, 3G is "disconnected" and my downloads come off my ADSL account - no heavy cellphone data charges.
You cannot switch wireless LAN off, but you can disable continuous automatic searching for a WLAN access point - this conserves battery.
You can also switch BT off.

ebendl
08-06-2006, 09:25 PM
Can you switch 3G off?
Not sure what you mean. You can stop it automatically connecting to an access point, but I think it defaults to the fastest speed when transferring data. When surfing the net at my office, I use my wireless LAN connection to my office laptop. As a result, 3G is "disconnected" and my downloads come off my ADSL account - no heavy cellphone data charges.
You cannot switch wireless LAN off, but you can disable continuous automatic searching for a WLAN access point - this conserves battery.
You can also switch BT off.

Doesn't the N-series have the setting to switch it to 2G only? Meaning not dual mode. That effectively switches 3G off and saves a lot of battery power, especially when switching from 2G to 3G and 3G to 2G.

lilDeath
08-06-2006, 11:09 PM
Doesn't the N-series have the setting to switch it to 2G only? Meaning not dual mode. That effectively switches 3G off and saves a lot of battery power, especially when switching from 2G to 3G and 3G to 2G.
this is the main reason I asked whether you can switch 3G off, to save battery power.
Guy @ CellC said you can switch 3G off, but I already know the N70 you cannot, so ye.

I must say u get quite a lot with the phone, practically all the essentials.

lilDeath
08-06-2006, 11:10 PM
Questions:
What is 'heavy usage'?
Listening to radio in car to and from work - 20 minutes. 1 hour of MP3 usage per day. 20 minutes of playing games. 20 minutes of internet surfing. 25 minutes of transferring files with bluetooth. 1 minute of pc sync with cable to my secretary's pc, 30 minutes of calls. Battery lasts frpm 7am to 9pm.

Does it have bluetooth?
Yes. Very easy to use and configure.

Did you get data cables for connecting to pc's / other devices?
1. Comes with power cable which has a smaller adapter than previous Nokias. However, you get an additional adapter as well which allows you to connect the phone to an older type charger included free. 2. 128MB miniSD card in addition to 40MB internal memory. 3. Nokia stereo fashion headset. 4. Adapter to allow connection of standard earphones - i use it with my iPod earphones - better sound. 4. USB data cable for pc sync, file transfer etc. - can surf net with this and with BT option. 5. wrist strap.
The phone also has uPnP built in. This means you can connect it to other devices that have uPnP directly - pc's with WinXp home media edition, printers to print photos/files directly, even hifi systems so that you can stream your music from your phone directly to your hifi speakers.

Any probs with signal reception on the phone?
No great reception. Slightly stronger than my previous Siemens SX1 and my wife's 9500.

Can you switch 3G off?
Not sure what you mean. You can stop it automatically connecting to an access point, but I think it defaults to the fastest speed when transferring data. When surfing the net at my office, I use my wireless LAN connection to my office laptop. As a result, 3G is "disconnected" and my downloads come off my ADSL account - no heavy cellphone data charges.
You cannot switch wireless LAN off, but you can disable continuous automatic searching for a WLAN access point - this conserves battery.
You can also switch BT off.
Thx again for all the info :D

ebendl
08-06-2006, 11:29 PM
this is the main reason I asked whether you can switch 3G off, to save battery power.
Guy @ CellC said you can switch 3G off, but I already know the N70 you cannot, so ye.

I must say u get quite a lot with the phone, practically all the essentials.

I'm surprised - all the messages and such I see on the internet indicate the selection option of the network mode.

Tools>Settings>Network>Network Mode

GSM should give you 2.5G, while Dual mode should give you 3G/2.5G. Are you sure you can't select this?

lilDeath
08-06-2006, 11:36 PM
u referring to the N70?
I am basing my comment on someone that has the phone and then also from forums.
You got the link handy

ebendl
08-06-2006, 11:44 PM
u referring to the N70?
I am basing my comment on someone that has the phone and then also from forums.
You got the link handy

Well, I quickly did a google search, basically for n70 dual mode. For example, this one on the Nokia boards:

http://discussion.forum.nokia.com/forum/showthread.php?t=76136 (This guy was actually complaining about the fact that he couldn't force 3G only, but it confirms that he at least have the option of dual mode/GSM only)

Not sure, as I don't have the phone, but I really thought they would implement this!

I can find out directly from someone who has the phone, if you want.

lilDeath
08-06-2006, 11:52 PM
thx, I will check this in the morning when I can get the phone from the guy.
Won't help though if I want the N80 ;)

ebendl
08-06-2006, 11:55 PM
thx, I will check this in the morning when I can get the phone from the guy.
Won't help though if I want the N80 ;)

Let us know about the outcome! And if you get an N80 - do some testing on the VC network and see if it works fine - I would love getting the phone myself... :)

mohammedm
09-06-2006, 05:53 AM
On the Nokia N80, you can enter the following menu:
MENU, TOOLS, SETTINGS, NETWORK.
Then you enter into NETWORK MODE.
Here you can choose between Dual Mode, UMTS and GSM.

I suppose this is what you mean when you asked about switching 3G off.

lilDeath
09-06-2006, 10:20 AM
Ok, so 3G is switched 'off' on the N70 now. Thx! :D
ye, thats what I meant. I only saw the option for Dual Mode and GSM tho, not UMTS (which in effect is 3G anyway)
What firmware software version u running?

mohammedm
09-06-2006, 11:59 AM
My firmware is as follows:
V 3.0614.0.3
11-04-2006
RM-92
Nokia N80 (02)

lilDeath
09-06-2006, 12:55 PM
hhmmm ok, need an update. This phone has:
v 2.0539.1.2
19-10-05
RM-84

adamr
10-06-2006, 02:05 PM
dude, did u just feel like spinning any name you could think of???
This phone has like absolutely NO features.... it's just a phone :(

I usually always buy the phones that have the best and the most features and guess what the novelty dies quickly and i end up just using the phone for what it is ... LG chocolate is a cool phone... has the features that everyone will use ... got good reviews too

lilDeath
10-06-2006, 02:26 PM
I usually always buy the phones that have the best and the most features and guess what the novelty dies quickly and i end up just using the phone for what it is ... LG chocolate is a cool phone... has the features that everyone will use ... got good reviews too
I would have agreed with you about one year ago but now I really use especially the connectivity methods.
Specifically BT and GPRS.
I am required to almost always be permanently be connected, so if ADSL can't help or I am travelling, I resort to GPRS. ;)

This leads directly into battery life and signal having to be supreme.
I do use the camera and extras like media capabilities as well.

The LG chocolate lacks in these areas. It is still a very retro phone.

brat69
10-06-2006, 02:45 PM
i also got a w800! Sony ericsson are the best phones to go for! Did you guys check the w950i and w850?:D

lilDeath
12-06-2006, 12:26 AM
no, havent checked these out yet
only really heard about the W900.

mohammedm
12-06-2006, 10:05 AM
As far as I know:
W810i - same as W800, but has EDGE support - currently available
W900 - fully featured, 2 megapixel camera, 470MB memory, 3G and EDGE - slightly bulky phone with awkward rotating mechanism to open the phone. I wanted this phone initially, but did not like it when it cam out, so I opted for the N80 - currently available.
M600 - true 3G multitasking device, great screen that is a touch screen, handwriting recognition, no camera or radio, business phone - available overseas, not launched locally yet.
W950i - same as M600, but more for the fun user, has an RDS radio and 4GB memory, but still no camera - not launched yet
K800i - very similar to Nokia N80 - no WLAN, but has true 3.2MP camera that apparently takes better photos, true xenon flash, 64MB memory, RDS radio - not launched yet
W850i - very well styled phone, 2MP camera, music recognition - this is the same phone that Tom Hanks grabbed from the guy on the bus in Da Vinci code - not launched yet

On the Nokia side, N80 is the best phone available as the moment.
N91 - similar features to N80, better build quality, 4GB memory, only 1 x 2.0MP camera instead of 1 X 3.0MP and 1 X VGA camera that N80 has, bigger
N93 - soon to be the top of the range Nokia, DVD video (640x48- at 30fps), 3.2MP camera, big and bulky, same form factor as N90 - not launched yet

When I last enquired at Sony - P990i, K800 and M600 woul dbe launched at the end of July, beginning of August.

CIS
12-06-2006, 05:10 PM
Mohammedm - you sound like a seriously informed chap re cellphones. I can get a Nokia 9300i free on my Talk 240 contract. What's your feelings on the 9300i ????? I think it's between that and the N70............????

xenithon
12-06-2006, 05:14 PM
The only thing I would be wary about with any of the N-series phones, being smart phones (Symbian) is a) crappy battery life and b) generally slower UI.

lilDeath
12-06-2006, 05:48 PM
Thanks for all the info mohammedm!! :D
If I recall correctly, the N91 has no where near the features of the N80, maybe the N70 yes, but not the N91. :confused:
I got the impression the N91 is more of a media / music phone.

I actually read some reviews where the guys said the response from the N80 is very good, they had t wait for the camera application to open a couple of seconds but the rest is very responsive.
So, havent heard about the slowness.
The N80 has the latest 3rd gen S60 Symbian OS.
Disadvantage of this though is that there are not a lot of apps out for it yet, coz it aint backwards comptabile with earlier symbians. :(

mohammedm
13-06-2006, 06:29 AM
1. lildeath:
a. Battery life on the N80 does suck. It lasts from morning to evening and I have to plug it in to charge as soon as I get home. However, after using the phone for two weeks (novelty has worn off), and using it to make mainly calls, I have extended this to a day and a half. The N80 has an autopower off mode (similar to a pc standby) where it goes to sleep - not even a screensaver on the screen - this saves battery life considerably.
b. The camera is a little slow and is of the fixed focus type, not an autofocus type. Not recommended for action shots. Then again, this is a camera one will use for occasional photos and not daily use (I have a Sony T9 for that).
c. I got used to a reasonably slow Siemens SX1 (the original Symbian60 smartphone). The N80 is a race car compared to that apart from a slow switch on time.
d. The lack of applications for S60v3 is actually a good thing. This means that the newer apps and games will be of a higher standard and only the decent ones will be upgraded to meet S60v3 requirements.

2. CIS:
The 9300i is a great phone. It all depends on your usage. My wife had a 9500 that was stolen and she now wants a 9300i as it is smaller to use. I myself will have more need for the N70.
9300i Pros:
1. This phone has a full size keyboard and a large screen - this is the greatest thing ever if you send a lot of SMSs and also need to read web pages. Buttons are now like 9500 and not the old 9300 - this is good.
2. 9300i now has WLAN built-in - fastest way of transferring files to the phone. Can also surf at ADSL speeds at hotspots.
3. The darker colour is cool.
4. Price has dropped substantially.
Cons:
1. Only has EDGE support and not 3G.
2. No radio (a must for me).
3. No camera.
4. Older generation of phone that needs to be updated with the 9500 - I don't see this happening before the end of the year.
In short, it is a mean business phone, but cannot do much else.
N70 Pros:
1. Smaller size.
2. More apps available.
3. Has a decent camera - video calling enabled.
4. Has 3G.
5. Solid built quality.
Cons:
1. No radio.
2. I've been told that menus are tricky, especially if you want to send an SMS - I don't really believe that and you can set up shortcuts.
In short, a solid but bland phone that does "almost" everything.
Like I said, it depends on your needs - on a Talk240, Vodacom should be allowing you to choose more expensive phones (like the N80, N91, even the brick of a 9500).

CIS
13-06-2006, 07:45 AM
Thank for your reply - I agree ( re the range of phones to choose from ) they are full of ***** !!!! I'be been with Vodacom for 10 years now and spend on average R1000 / month on cell bill but I get pathetic treatement from them. You sign a 2 year contract to the minimum value of R10k and a guy taking out a weekender contract to the value of R 2k get's almost the same deal............ Ridiculous !!!! I want the N80 but it's not available on the Vodacom market yet.......:-(

lilDeath
13-06-2006, 03:36 PM
When's the N80 available on Vodacom?

@mohammedm, how do you find the keypad beneath the slider?
This is the one big con that people are mentioning: The top line (numbers 1-3) of the keypad when the slider is open is difficult to use... :(

mohammedm
13-06-2006, 03:47 PM
Yes, I have heard concerns about the keypad. When the phone is fully opened, your thumb does touch the upper part when trying to press buttons 1, 2 and 3. However, I find that I use the side of my thumb/tip of my nail to press the buttons and I have not had any problems. Perhaps I am now used to it. I also have bigger hands than average.

I think it will only be a problem if you have huge hands.

Another concern is the small font size. I personally prefer this, but it can be a challenge for the visually impaired.

One of the easiest things to do is to go to the NOKIA/Exactmobile stores directly. The Cape Town one has now moved from Greenpoint to Canal Walk. Not sure if there is one at Vodaworld. They have stock and you can play with the phone in store.

I have no idea when the N80 will be available on Vodacom.

lilDeath
13-06-2006, 05:53 PM
Through whom did you get the N80 phone?

What are the alternatives if NOT the N80?

mohammedm
13-06-2006, 06:16 PM
I received my N80 from the CellC store in N1 City, Cape Town, via an upgrade to my contract. Other stores that I can recommend are CellC Rosebank Mall or CellC Killarney Mall.

I checked with them earlier today for stock availability for another friend. CellC definitely has stock. Free on the ActiveChat100 contract. Alternately, you can purchase the phone outright (cash) - no network lock or funny firmware for R5150. The store will order from CellC warehouse who will deliver the phone to the store within 4 days. I was there when they phoned the warehouse and confirmed stock availability.

The only other place that I know had stock was the official Nokia store run by Exactmobile. The store has now moved to Canal Walk shopping centre. Not sure if there is a similar store in Johannesburg. I think their price was R4995 - not sure of that.

The CellC model is silver in colour. The Nokia store model is black. Both look very sexy indeed.

lilDeath
13-06-2006, 08:46 PM
CellC... I aint that brave yet... :( How you find them?

IYO, What are the alternatives if NOT the N80?

mohammedm
14-06-2006, 10:13 AM
I started almost 10 years ago with a Vodacom prepaid account. I then took a Weekender contract from Vodacom. Subsequently, I moved to MTN when they promised me certain consecutive numbers (I asked by walking into MTN head office) and by offering me 2 months free subscription for changing over. All this was done when I was a student. About the same time, I managed to get invited to the CellC launch - here I was given a free Siemens phone (the first in the country with GPRS at that stage - I was hooked) and a prepaid CellC account with R500 worth of airtime.
After specialising, I needed a number that was easy for patients to remember. By this time, I had become very good friends with a CellC franchise store owner. He managed to arrange my current number for me (0843766337 - 084 DR M MEER - cool, huh?) and I took out an ActiveChat100 contract with him. I have just renewed and received my N80.
My wife has been with MTN, now is on a BusinessChat400 contract (average bill R2500-R3500 per month) and has a Vodacom HSDPA contract.

So, you can see, I have experience with all networks. The bottom line is that no one network will give you everything you need. VC and MTN have had excellent coverage and signal quality. They are market leaders and CellC launches similar products very much later then them. I preferred the quality of the VC network to MTN, but preferred the contract and data options of MTN.

Recently, I have been getting exceptional, individual service from CellC. Sure they have problems, but they treat you more as a family member than the impersonal service from the two giants. I complained of poor reception at home - a technician was despatched - his recommendation was that CellC install an external antenna at their cost - he constantly phones to keep me informed of progress. CellC's call costs are also very much cheaper for the business user. The cell reception and coverage has improved and their data services work well for me. I am happy with them at the moment. I dislike the fact that they only have EDGE and not 3G/HSPDA, but that will be rectified by the end of the year.

With regard to cellphones, each network has special deals with certain manufacturer's. And even with manufacturer's, the networks can have special deals with certain handsets. It's a bit of a lottery. An example is the "cheapness" of the N80 with CellC, where Nokia handsets were always cheaper on VC.

Basically, you need to ask yourself what you need and see who offers it. When you get it, you will have problems and will wonder why you did not go for the other option - but, the grass is not always greener on the other side.

Finally, 2 years with a cellphone is a long time - I don't suggest taking a specific contract out to get a certain phone. Take a contract that suits your needs and pay extra for the phone if necessary.

Mohammed

PS: I have had handsets from Ericsson, Nokia, Motorola, Siemens, Sony Ericsson and have used iMates, Samsung etc. I will definitely purchase a Nokia first, folowed by SonyEricsson, BenQSiemens are decent but not well established. I would not touch anything else.
If not the N80, I will go for the N91. Alternately, consider the 9300i. If you can wait, the SE P990i promises to deliver much, but also look at the K800, M600 or the W850.
Nothing else deserves any mention - that is why I only upgraded now, when my contract expired in February 2006.

lilDeath
14-06-2006, 05:27 PM
thx DR ;)
I am hinging on waiting till the phone I want comes, together with the contract I want.
Thx, much appreciated!! :D

CIS
15-06-2006, 08:22 AM
thx DR ;)
I am hinging on waiting till the pone I want comes, together with the contract I want.
Thx, much appreciated!! :D
lilDeath - I went to the exactmobile shop in Canal Walk last night to go and check out some of the phones available ( as per the Dr !!! ) and let me tell you ......... That N80 is quite a neat piece of phone !!!!! Very very nice - I decided to wait until the Uselesscom decides to release the phone from testing and then get one. It should , at least in my theory , be just about free on a talk package and the phone retails for about R 5 300 and the 9300i retails for about R 6 600. You only have to pay in R300 on the 9300i on a talk package so the N80 should be pretty close to free............I think it's well worth a wait....... :D

TheYak
15-06-2006, 11:56 AM
I'm too lazy to read through the thread, and I don't know what the phone is called, but has anyone seen the new Sony Ericsson Walkman phone? Niiiiiiice! I have the w800i at the moment and saw someone in the cinema using his.

My next phone, i'm sure.

mohammedm
15-06-2006, 12:03 PM
I'm too lazy to read through the thread, and I don't know what the phone is called, but has anyone seen the new Sony Ericsson Walkman phone? Niiiiiiice! I have the w800i at the moment and saw someone in the cinema using his.

My next phone, i'm sure.

Go to post no 74 in this thread:
http://mybroadband.co.za/vb/showpost.php?p=561554&postcount=74

TheYak
15-06-2006, 12:32 PM
Cool! Thanks for that man!

I'm sure it was the w850 that this guy had, but the big button in the middle was different. They're advertising this phone all over Cresta and it wasn't the one that twisted open.

*is confused now*

mohammedm
15-06-2006, 01:25 PM
Cool! Thanks for that man!

I'm sure it was the w850 that this guy had, but the big button in the middle was different. They're advertising this phone all over Cresta and it wasn't the one that twisted open.

*is confused now*

The guy probably had the W550i, a lower end model that still looks pretty cool. Check out all the new SE phones here:
http://www.sonyericsson.com/spg.jsp?cc=za&lc=en&ver=4000&template=pp1&zone=pp&lm=pp

TheYak
15-06-2006, 01:55 PM
naw, it wasn't the twisty one... although, it might have been, cinemas are dark. *shrug*

Still, it looked like a cool phone. I've grown quite attached to my w800i, it's a really nice phone. The only thing that I don't like about it, is that the PC integration isn't as... easy as Nokia's. Other than that, it's really cool and funky and I've gotten used to the menu system as well, which I thought was going to be a problem

lilDeath
15-06-2006, 02:46 PM
lilDeath - I went to the exactmobile shop in Canal Walk last night to go and check out some of the phones available ( as per the Dr !!! ) and let me tell you ......... That N80 is quite a neat piece of phone !!!!! Very very nice - I decided to wait until the Uselesscom decides to release the phone from testing and then get one. It should , at least in my theory , be just about free on a talk package and the phone retails for about R 5 300 and the 9300i retails for about R 6 600. You only have to pay in R300 on the 9300i on a talk package so the N80 should be pretty close to free............I think it's well worth a wait....... :D
NICE, will check it out!!

Jeeva
15-06-2006, 04:54 PM
I spoke to a friend of mine which owns 5 VodaShops, apparently vodacom is fasing out the N-Series cellphones, except the latest one (N80 me thinks). They having to much **** with it.

lilDeath
15-06-2006, 07:38 PM
I spoke to a friend of mine which owns 5 VodaShops, apparently vodacom is fasing out the N-Series cellphones, except the latest one (N80 me thinks). They having to much **** with it.
WOT??
This cant be right.
Even the very awesome N70 and wot about the new N-series ones coming??

Silent_Bob
15-06-2006, 08:01 PM
i can understand vodacom phasing them out, i baught my phone on a vodacom weekend everyday contract as the phone was kinda released in sa..
after a week i had a problem with it. took it to nokia, and got the firmware flashed and now its 100%

my mate had the same prob, he has two N70's one from mtn and the other from vodacom, brand new after a week the the phone packed up, and after 2 months the phones motherboard was replaced... and the mtn phone is still 100%

ok... now, why did the vodacom phones mess up... you get the phones out of the box with the lovely vodafone firmware installed, and vodafone printed all over the phone, the one at the back i have happily scratched off :P
My mate used to work at nokia, the vodafone firmware can often damage the phone!
The vodafone firmware i was unhappy with out of the box because, the lovely screen saver always keeps just pitching up, after changing settings, was irritating and often messed up the vodacom4me website

ok...

i doubt it will happen tho, the N-series is going to be all the main phones of Nokia, all coming with the symbian op system they are the best phones, good features and multitasking, thats the reason i will never chyange phones from nokia smartphones, multitasking is the way to go, listen to music, have mxit open, mig33 open, agile messenger (msn, yahoo all the main messengers) and play a game at the same time.. got to love it

i love my N70, just want to get a new cover, to get rid of the vodafone cover, mohomed, can u hook me up?
my lesson learnt, dont buy a phone that doesnt have the orig firmware on.. nokia releases the phone with a specific reason, why load your crap on it!!

gar.. i hate vodacom now, so glad my main contract is with mtn

lilDeath
15-06-2006, 09:30 PM
Interesting, thx for that SB.
Is it not possible to ask for the phone without the vodafone stuff on?
Maybe if u dont take a contract ??

Silent_Bob
16-06-2006, 08:59 AM
whether you buy it on contract or prepaid with vodacom it will be the crappy vodafone firmware on it

ATTENTION!! IF YOU HAVE THE VODAFONE FIRMWARE, TAKE YOUR PHONE TO NOKIA AND ASK FOR A FULL FIRMWARE UPGRADE, TAKE OUT YOUR MEMORY CARD WHEN U TAKE IT

Jeeva
16-06-2006, 09:59 AM
Interesting, thx for that SB.
Is it not possible to ask for the phone without the vodafone stuff on?
Maybe if u dont take a contract ??

Nope, but you can flash it yourself - there are quite a few guides out there on flashing the phone (upgrading/downgrading software) via your Datacable

Pierre
16-06-2006, 10:53 AM
Cool! Thanks for that man!

I'm sure it was the w850 that this guy had, but the big button in the middle was different. They're advertising this phone all over Cresta and it wasn't the one that twisted open.

*is confused now*

W900i Perhaps?

I got mine about a month ago, and it is quite cool. I missed my p910i a lot though, so now I carry around both phones. (To much info on the p910i to transfer, like notes and stuff.......)

Neural
17-06-2006, 11:20 AM
I am looking for a new phone that will pair with the Bluetooth in my car. From following some of the international sites, 2 models that will do this and transfer the phonebook automatically are the Motorola Q and the Blackberry 8700.

Does anyone have any experience using the BB 8700? I don't think the Moto Q has launched here yet.

Thanks

lilDeath
17-06-2006, 01:13 PM
whether you buy it on contract or prepaid with vodacom it will be the crappy vodafone firmware on it

ATTENTION!! IF YOU HAVE THE VODAFONE FIRMWARE, TAKE YOUR PHONE TO NOKIA AND ASK FOR A FULL FIRMWARE UPGRADE, TAKE OUT YOUR MEMORY CARD WHEN U TAKE IT
No, I meant like without anything. Buy just the phone, no prepaid or contract. Or is this not possible anymore?
And then simply move my current sim over to that phone form old phone.

lilDeath
17-06-2006, 01:13 PM
Nope, but you can flash it yourself - there are quite a few guides out there on flashing the phone (upgrading/downgrading software) via your Datacable
doesnt this void warranty or support?

lilDeath
17-06-2006, 01:15 PM
I am looking for a new phone that will pair with the Bluetooth in my car. From following some of the international sites, 2 models that will do this and transfer the phonebook automatically are the Motorola Q and the Blackberry 8700.

Does anyone have any experience using the BB 8700? I don't think the Moto Q has launched here yet.

Thanks
ooeee BlackBerry!!
/grimace

Silent_Bob
17-06-2006, 02:51 PM
doesnt this void warranty or support?


doin it yourself can lead to problems, i would rather not take the chance, and take it to nokia for a day.

as far as i know u can still get phones not directly from a provider.. u can goto nokia and that will be 100% orig firmware
i know autopage was selling phones the had orig firmware, but i not too keen on that chain, heard dodgy things about em

freeek
17-06-2006, 04:11 PM
nashua seems solid

lilDeath
18-06-2006, 01:26 PM
What about Nashua?
You referrring to them as Service Provider? Where do they fit in with the discussion?
Please elaborate :)

adsl3g
18-06-2006, 01:51 PM
doesnt this void warranty or support?


You can bet yr boots this voids the warranty - the software used to flash the phone is not available legally over the net but you can download it - called Phoenix or something like that.

I took my N70 to Nokia on Friday and they flashed the firmware to nokia's latest v5 firmware without the vodafone crap.

lilDeath
26-06-2006, 05:42 PM
Went to the Nokia shop in Century City. They sell the N80 (phone only) for R5400 :eek:
Guy was a bit dumbstruck as to why CellC would sell it on their contracts but not vodacom... :rolleyes:

lilDeath
28-06-2006, 12:21 AM
Techie told me the N80 MAYBE available in another month or so on Voda.
They are doing thorough 'testing' .....
:rolleyes:

flenters
30-06-2006, 03:07 PM
I would go for the Samsung Z560 [battery life], and if you dont mind a camera the SE m600i, another good option would be the SE K800i

lilDeath
30-06-2006, 03:20 PM
I would go for the Samsung Z560 [battery life], and if you dont mind a camera the SE m600i, another good option would be the SE K800i
hhhmmm, will check these out, thx

AJ@ALG
01-07-2006, 12:31 PM
Does anyone know the date that the w850i will be available in SA??? I'm due for an upgrade soon and the w850 looks like a winner!

Tamatave
02-07-2006, 07:08 PM
got nokia 6280 from mtn +/- 2 wks ago. excellent phone.

DigitalSoldier
02-07-2006, 07:18 PM
W850 looks really good and its got a loot of good features but I dont like the fact that its kind of build like the samsung D500

The SE k800i also looks good

LabAnimal
02-07-2006, 07:20 PM
Eish Sony Ericsson w850i
http://www.sonyericsson.com/spg.jsp?cc=za&lc=en&ver=4000&template=pp1_loader&php=php1_10447&zone=pp&lm=pp1&pid=10447

Definately far better than most phones out atm. (not talking about the Imates etc - don't really like them)

h0ll0w
03-07-2006, 11:23 AM
Does anybody know whether any of the SA cellphone operators will get the Nokia 6233 ?

Link (http://www.gsmarena.com/nokia_6233-1387.php)

Personally I'd take this phone over any SE, anyday. Nokia is what I am used to and they are straight forward

lilDeath
03-07-2006, 04:23 PM
6233 is loaded with features
looks a bit dull tho

LabAnimal
03-07-2006, 04:38 PM
Nokia really needs to do catch a wakeup - their phones have become so boring!. Even Samsung is falling behind. Nice try with the D820, but IMO the SE-W850I beats it hands down.

icyrus
03-07-2006, 04:42 PM
I got the N80 on saturday and I am very happy with it so far. Does everything I would possibly need an a whole lot more and the black version looks quite nice aswell.

Its a bit bigger than I am used to but that was expected.

lilDeath
03-07-2006, 05:11 PM
@icyrus, what network u get it with?

Any problems with it so far?

icyrus
05-07-2006, 03:48 PM
Sorry for the late reply.


@icyrus, what network u get it with?

Any problems with it so far?

I got it from the MTNSP in Sandton City.

Haven't had any problems with it so far and must say I am quite impressed with it.

lilDeath
06-07-2006, 11:43 AM
not exactly what I wanted to hear (Vodacom) :(
but happy for you ;)

You using 3G?

ghalied
07-07-2006, 01:11 AM
SE W900i, great piece of kit, stunning camera, great for mp3's, long battery life, bluetooth, 3g etc.

I have one, I watch my tv at work on it, play my mp3's while I'm driving and you don't have to flip it over all the time, the menu is available on the front sde and you can receive, make calls without having to flip it round.

Only downside is that it hasn't got wifi. You can send and receive your emails as well. perfect.

ForSure
07-07-2006, 08:24 AM
Se w810i - very nice phone , i like mine :) plays videos very nicely
convert dvds etc

lilDeath
09-07-2006, 03:00 PM
I heard from a guy in Vodashop yesterday that the W900i has been discontinued... They don't know why but apparently they have all been on backorder...

lilDeath
11-07-2006, 03:10 PM
Have anybody used / is using the Samsung Z540?
How is it?
please share :D

waterbound
11-07-2006, 04:13 PM
Has anyone seen or used the Nokia E61 or E70?

lilDeath
13-07-2006, 11:51 AM
only seen it in pamphlets.

dont get your hopes up, will probably only be closer to the end of the year or even next year.

lilDeath
28-07-2006, 12:36 PM
I think I am going to go ahead with getting the N80.
It is very expensive on Vodacom (R2000), so will wait for MNP and get it on MTN. :(

neilh
31-07-2006, 04:30 PM
I currently have a iMate Pocket PC, but I am due for an upgrade in September. I am looking for a phone with 3G video, BT and email functionality. The phone needs to sync contacts, calendar and email with my company MS Exchange 2003 server. I was thinking of the P990i but it seems that SE are taking their time in releasing it.

lilDeath
31-07-2006, 04:38 PM
Ye, I don't think the P990i will be released shortly.. :(
AFAIK, Vodacom only received the unit for testing a week or so ago.

If I am not mistaken the N80 fulfills all of your needs? Checked it out?

neilh
01-08-2006, 09:06 AM
Does anyone have any idea why Vodacom want to charge R 2000 for the N80 on a Talk 240! It seems excessive!

noxibox
01-08-2006, 09:35 AM
Still going with the Sony Ericssons.
I wish Sony Ericsson wouldn't make me choose between 3G and EDGE. I want a phone with both. That makes Nokia the top choice apparently.

noxibox
01-08-2006, 09:37 AM
I heard from a guy in Vodashop yesterday that the W900i has been discontinued... They don't know why but apparently they have all been on backorder...
Perhaps because it is being replaced by a new model?

noxibox
01-08-2006, 09:49 AM
From a battery perspective, stay away from the 3G phones, rather go for something with EDGE. Most 3G phones only get about 2 days worth of juice.
Surely this only applies if you have 3G switched on which you'd only really need to do when you're actually using it?

noxibox
01-08-2006, 09:54 AM
Not the SE or the samsungs
I can't disable the Vodafone rubbish on my Nokia either.

noxibox
01-08-2006, 10:02 AM
Vodacom is still full of ***** with testing etc etc............ :mad:
I think they mean they're not done crippling it yet.

noxibox
01-08-2006, 10:42 AM
W900 - fully featured, 2 megapixel camera, 470MB memory, 3G and EDGE
I thought the W900 only had 3G and GPRS.

lilDeath
01-08-2006, 10:44 AM
Does anyone have any idea why Vodacom want to charge R 2000 for the N80 on a Talk 240! It seems excessive!
I have asked this in several threads and am awaiting feedback from Vodacom in this regard.

I was told not to expect a quick and easy answer!! :mad:

I am waiting till the 18th Sep and then I will move to MTN and get the phone there for FREE on the ProCall100 :p

noxibox
01-08-2006, 10:53 AM
the vodafone firmware can often damage the phone!
Make the phone unstable I can understand, but actually damage the hardware. If that is possible, then Nokia is to blame.

albert123
01-08-2006, 01:17 PM
any suggestions on best 3g phone? like most "feature packed" phone?

lilDeath
01-08-2006, 01:26 PM
any suggestions on best 3g phone? like most "feature packed" phone?
The N80 comes to mind ;)
http://www.nokia.com/nseries/index.html#product,n80

albert123
01-08-2006, 01:30 PM
The N80 comes to mind ;)
http://www.nokia.com/nseries/index.html#product,n80

reckon its a nice phone? mmm

lilDeath
01-08-2006, 03:17 PM
I had a look at it last week, it is very nice, and not heavy at all! I tried the slider and it also works very good and the keypad isnt a problem for me. Some people complain that you cant access the top line on the keypad when the slider is open, but you will have to have really FAT fingers for this to be the case. :D

All the reviews have also been good that I have seen. Of course battery life lacks a bit but then that can be expected from a 3G phone.

It will definitely be an upgrade for me using a Nokia 6230 at the moment.

I did get a shock when all the channels wanted me to pay in R2000-R2600 for the pay on my current Vodacom Talk200 contract!! :eek:

With MTN they give you the phone free of charge of Procall100(or 120)!! :rolleyes:

albert123
01-08-2006, 03:21 PM
I had ....

mmm sounds cool but its not even on the vodacom site yet? can you get it from them? they claim to be the freaking leaders but they get all these N series phones last, even virgin mobile that dont have 3G have more N series pphones than vodacom, and now you say i can expect to pay in like R2500?? so much for "free phone" :(

lilDeath
01-08-2006, 03:28 PM
Yes, they are available on Vodacom since last week.

Check the N80 thread here: http://mybroadband.co.za/vb/showthread.php?t=48553

I am also going to check out the Samsung Z560. I understand Vodacom released this phone to be used on their network. It will probably be in the channels in the next 2-3 weeks. This is an HSDPA phone :D

Menageryl
17-08-2006, 01:58 PM
' My vote for "most feature-packed phone (that's reliable and dependable)" right now still goes with the SE P990i.

' I have it now on VERY reliable information that the official release and launch of the phone will happen last day of the month (August).
' There is already stock in the country - so there's no waiting for shipments to arrive once SE does release 'em... The only wait thereafter would be for any final testing to be done by networks before they make them available on contract - but the handsets will be available SIM-free immediately after said official launch.

' I also have it from a reasonably reliable source that MTN has already approved the handset and essentially are just waiting for the go-ahead from SE. I'm not 110% sure of this info though (though also don't consider it dodgy) and hopefully MTNDD will come back to me / us shortly with more solid and definitive information.
' Vodacom on the other hand have NOT approved the phones and are awaiting new firmware release versions to try testing again - though I'm told that there's not much left to do in that particular testing cycle so it should take only a few days (instead of weeks).
' As for CellC and Virgin... No clue.

' <Sighs> I just gotta find a way to bite the bullet and make it through a few more days (2 weeks, whatever!!!)!!!!!

' ~Moi

lilDeath
17-08-2006, 02:40 PM
Dont like the look of the P990i. *shudder*
Reminds me too much of a small pc. Not for me. :D

albert123
17-08-2006, 02:42 PM
i must say i dont really like SE as a brand, i love Sony but SE ? my wife had a SE Z400 for 2 years, really didnt get me excited or made me think "ei SE better option than Nok or Moto"

Neural
17-08-2006, 03:42 PM
I really think the time is right for me to get a Phone-PDA and if that is the case, the ones I am waiting to have a look at are the SE P990i, Motorola Q and the i-mate Jasjam.

Of all of them, the Jasjam seems to have the most decent specs - EDGE/3G/HSDPA, Wi-Fi 802.11b/g, bluetooth etc.

http://www.gsmarena.com/i_mate_jasjam-1589.php :D

MyDraadloos
20-08-2006, 12:46 PM
I really think the time is right for me to get a Phone-PDA and if that is the case, the ones I am waiting to have a look at are the SE P990i, Motorola Q and the i-mate Jasjam.

Of all of them, the Jasjam seems to have the most decent specs - EDGE/3G/HSDPA, Wi-Fi 802.11b/g, bluetooth etc.

http://www.gsmarena.com/i_mate_jasjam-1589.php :D

No all you need is money or patience to wait for the local version.

broken1
20-08-2006, 06:06 PM
I have a K-jam for sale if anyone is interested. About 1 month old, brand new condition...PM Me!

spiderz
21-08-2006, 10:21 AM
I've lookind at the jasjar & k-jam over the weekend. (Held them in my hand)
The Jasjar is a massive phone, but still manages to fit in my pocket. The k-jam is nice and small with the slide keyboard (much like the upcomming jasjam). The ppl that have used these phones, what are your virdict?

spiderz
21-08-2006, 10:23 AM
I have a K-jam for sale if anyone is interested. About 1 month old, brand new condition...PM Me!

You've got a PM !:D

lilDeath
21-08-2006, 02:02 PM
I've lookind at the jasjar & k-jam over the weekend. (Held them in my hand)
The Jasjar is a massive phone, but still manages to fit in my pocket. The k-jam is nice and small with the slide keyboard (much like the upcomming jasjam). The ppl that have used these phones, what are your virdict?
Jasjar is friggin massive and so damn expensive!!
Would rather take the KJam. All the people I know that's got it, like it.
Know someone with a JasJar and they dont even use it anymore. Probably got tired of doing weights when carrying the phone around :D (standard joke around the office :D)

Neural
21-08-2006, 03:46 PM
No all you need is money or patience to wait for the local version.

Of the two, the patience is the one that seems to be more difficult to scrape together... :(

lilDeath
22-08-2006, 10:50 AM
Be strong young padawan ;)
/sigh, scrapes more pashunce together

lilDeath
08-09-2006, 10:44 AM
dammit :mad:
With them asking for further extension on MNP, looks like I will have to wait longer for my N80. :(

damn the cell phone network providers to hell!! :mad:

GTi
08-09-2006, 11:00 AM
Why is it taking u so long to get a N80,do you want to switch networks first ?With whom are you with now?

Raithlin
08-09-2006, 11:03 AM
I've lookind at the jasjar & k-jam over the weekend. (Held them in my hand)
The Jasjar is a massive phone, but still manages to fit in my pocket. The k-jam is nice and small with the slide keyboard (much like the upcomming jasjam). The ppl that have used these phones, what are your virdict?

I've had the K-JAM since December, and BMW has just issued them to all managers - along with push email. That in itself says a lot.

I love the way you can "upgrade" it. Check out http://forum.xda-developers.com for details...

lilDeath
08-09-2006, 11:03 AM
Why is it taking u so long to get a N80,do you want to switch networks first ?With whom are you with now?
I am with Vodacom and not going to pay an arm and a leg to get the N80.
Hence wanting to get it on MTN, which is where MNP comes in coz I don't want to lose my number.

broken1
08-09-2006, 11:28 AM
I am with Vodacom and not going to pay an arm and a leg to get the N80.
Hence wanting to get it on MTN, which is where MNP comes in coz I don't want to lose my number.

Lildeath, what contract are you on?

As of 1 September, all MTN prices for the N80 are either equal to or HIGHER than vodacoms prices.

lilDeath
08-09-2006, 11:32 AM
I'm on Talk200.

Is the N80 not free on Weekender or Procall100 / Mycall100 anymore?

broken1
08-09-2006, 12:41 PM
I'm on Talk200.

Is the N80 not free on Weekender or Procall100 / Mycall100 anymore?

Nope, call MTN and check - but last saturday they told me it's now over R2000 in Mycall100, and over R1000 in Procall100 and Procall 240.

Vodacom is advertising R1099 on business talk, effective today IIRC.

lilDeath
08-09-2006, 12:49 PM
Nope, call MTN and check - but last saturday they told me it's now over R2000 in Mycall100, and over R1000 in Procall100 and Procall 240.

Vodacom is advertising R1099 on business talk, effective today IIRC.
:eek: :eek:
frackers!! :mad:

victorlebza
08-09-2006, 08:02 PM
dude, did u just feel like spinning any name you could think of???
This phone has like absolutely NO features.... it's just a phone :(

I can't agree more. That phone's for ladies. LOL

adamr
09-09-2006, 08:36 AM
what bout the SE k800i ... i prefer this over the N80 ...

PaulM
10-09-2006, 11:46 AM
Just bought the N80 from vodaworld in Jo'burg, I'm in CT. It was a special where the phone was free and the contract was weekender. It was delivered to my doorstep on Friday after closing the deal on Wednesday.

The sum total was R105 for the 32k SIM with micro browser and thereafter R135 p/m excluding calls. The phone worked as advertised (with all feature enabled, to my knowledge) and no software problems - which other people overseas have been subjected to.

WiFi works out of the box as with other software apps. Additional apps can be downloaded from symbian9.com.

I would highly recommend the N80 to anybody...

brixton tower
10-09-2006, 04:40 PM
i must say i dont really like SE as a brand, i love Sony but SE ? my wife had a SE Z400 for 2 years, really didnt get me excited or made me think "ei SE better option than Nok or Moto"

I'm an SE fiend and I can't recall SE ever releasing such a model(Z400). I'll be the first to admit that their lower-end phones are generally crappy but please get your facts right on specific phone models. If I said that I hated a Nokia 3590 you'd probably get mad as well:D

BTW, I'm using a Vodafone Live-branded N70...good phone but I would hesitate to call it brilliant. Initially the branding got on my nerves, later I just ignored and I promised that I'd never buy anything off the Vodafone Live portal.

lilDeath
11-09-2006, 10:56 AM
what bout the SE k800i ... i prefer this over the N80 ...
What's your reasons for preferring the K800i?


Just bought the N80 from vodaworld in Jo'burg, I'm in CT. It was a special where the phone was free and the contract was weekender. It was delivered to my doorstep on Friday after closing the deal on Wednesday.

How did you manage this? Someone in JHB buy it for you and courier it down? Or do it online / telephonic?