I’m tired of Republicans being the ‘Stupid Party’

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On Tuesday’s edition of “Morning Joe,” host Joe Scarborough vented his frustration with Missouri Rep. Todd Akin (R)’s refusal to drop out of the race for U.S. Senate and said that he’s tired of his party being the “Stupid Party.” Akin is the Republican congressman who said in an interview earlier this week that a woman’s body can stop conception in the instance of a “legitimate rape,” thus obviating a need for exemptions from abortion restrictions for the victims of rape and incest.

On Monday, Scarborough said that Akin was evidence of a Republican party that had placed ideology ahead of actual electability and fitness to govern. On Tuesday, with Akin (thus far) refusing to get out of the race, Scarborough made it clear that, to his thinking, the mortally wounded Akin campaign could be spoiling the chances for Republicans to take the majority of seats in the Senate.

“Congressman Akin, you’re in denial,” said Scarborough as if he were addressing Akin, “You’re gonna lose if you stay in the race. And, by the way, your loss could make the difference between a Supreme Court justice that could make all the difference in the issues you claim you care about and having a Barack Obama fifth appointee for majority. So you think about that today when you do your little commercial. And think about destroying the Republican majority. Good on ya.”

Akin’s campaign released a commercial this morning apologizing for the remarks, but vowing to stay in the race against incumbent Sen. Claire McCaskill (D), who has been down in the polls against Akin in recent weeks.

Scarborough had praise for his party, however for uniting in condemning Akin’s remarks, which have touched off a firestorm on both sides of the party aisle. “Even Hannity” has spoken out against the controversial statements, which apparently is the panel’s Maginot Line that defines the edge of acceptable Republican discourse. If even Hannity turns up his nose at what you’ve said, then you’ve truly jumped the tracks of credulity and should probably rethink how your remarks and your refusal to leave the race are affecting your party.

Scarborough said that he’s less interested in the question of whether or not the Republican Party should be a moderate or a conservative party, “I’m just tired of the Republican Party being the ‘Stupid Party!’” he said, “Stupid people saying stupid things and scaring off independent voters and swing voters!”

We wish former Rep. Scarborough (R-FL) luck with that. It may be asking rather a lot from today’s GOP.
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Videos and more information at the source: http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2012/08/21/scarborough-im-tired-of-republicans-being-the-stupid-party/
 
Unfortunately stupidity seems to be endemic to the entire broad spectrum of American (and South African) politics.

Just look at some of the legislation that has been proposed by both sides over the last term.
 
“I’m just tired of the Republican Party being the ‘Stupid Party!’” he said, “Stupid people saying stupid things and scaring off independent voters and swing voters!”
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Is he admitting only stupid people vote Republican?
 
Well then, good news, the Democrats are just as stupid.
 
http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2012/08/...se-to-bless-women-with-pregnancies-from-rape/
An official from Missouri’s Republican Party on Monday defended Senate candidate Todd Akin after he suggested abortions should not be allowed in any case because victims of “legitimate” rape victims could not get pregnant.

GOP 4th Senate District Committeewoman Sharon Barnes told The New York Times “that abortion is never an option.”

In an interview with KTVI-TV over the weekend, Akin had said that “the female body has ways to try to shut that whole thing down,” referring to pregnancy after so-called “legitimate rape.”

Barnes “echoed Mr. Akin’s statement that very few rapes resulted in pregnancy,” according to the Times, and she added that “at that point, if God has chosen to bless this person with a life, you don’t kill it.”

“That’s more what I believe he was trying to state,” she insisted. “He just phrased it badly.”

During an interview with Akin on Monday, Fox News host Mike Huckabee noted that “forcible rapes” had created some “extraordinary people.”

“Ethel Waters, for example, was the result of a forcible rape,” Huckabee pointed out. “I used to work for James Robison back in the 1970s, he leads a large Christian organization. He, himself, was the result of a forcible rape.”

“And so I know it happens, and yet even from those horrible, horrible tragedies of rape, which are inexcusable and indefensible, life has come and sometimes, you know, those people are able to do extraordinary things.”
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Well, I suppose it is not their fault stupid people vote for them. They could have had Ron Paul. Or maybe it is their fault for promoting leaders that attract stupid people.
 
thestaggy said:
Well, I suppose it is not their fault stupid people vote for them. They could have had Ron Paul. Or maybe it is their fault for promoting leaders that attract stupid people.
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You already have a Randroid up for VP nomination. Your very own Paul Ryan!
 
TheHiveMind said:
and I thought you liked democracy.
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Yes yes. We all know that you think people are too stupid to decide whats good for them and that you believe in a system where only certain people should be allowed to vote and call the shots. We passed that time of Kings, Nobles and their armies. Welcome to the 21st century (in most places).

This quote sums your view up nicely:

The details that the father, and most working class conservatives who subscribe to the idea of small/limited government don’t understand is quite simple, the argument of small government is really an argument against democracy.You see, one thing that I have learned as a socialist is that capitalists hate democracy. Why? Because in the minds of capitalists they are the only people who are fit to run society. According to the CEO’s, hedge fund managers, entrepreneurs, society should only be run by the “responsible men.” America was originally founded on this maxim, which was later expanded to include all white males in the period of “Jacksonian Democracy.” To a significant extent, conservatism is the political philosophy of white dudes.

Let’s stop for a moment. If capitalism – the sacrosanct socioeconomic system that conservatives defend with evangelical fervor – is the bedrock of freedom, why embrace such an anti-democratic idea like small government? Well that is very easy to explain. In a substantive democracy, people have not only proscriptive rights – rights that protect from government oppression and grant individual protections – they also have prescriptive rights – the right to an education, the right to clean water, the right to food, etc. Capitalists don’t like substantive democracy because it challenges the power of property and the market. This is one of the main points of conflict between socialists and capitalists. The market is often presented as a system of voluntary contracts between equals that can solve all of our problems society so long as it remains unfettered by government intervention. What people don’t know is that by letting the market become unfettered, you are removing any balance of power between those common people who do not have any influence on the market and those who do. Conservative politics argues that small government is freedom – a claim that contains a grain of truth. But freedom for whom?
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By capitalists he means market fundimentalists like thehivemind.
 
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ghoti said:
Yes yes. We all know that you think people are too stupid to decide whats good for them and that you believe in a system where only certain people should be allowed to vote and call the shots. We passed that time of Kings, Nobles and their armies. Welcome to the 21st century (in most places).

This quote sums your view up nicely:



By capitalists he means market fundimentalists like thehivemind.
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Democracy is not new, it's very old. We have thrown it away before.
Silly ghoti, giving stupid people votes and constantly complaining about how stupid they are.

Market fundamentalism (also known as free market fundamentalism) is a pejorative term applied to a strong belief in the ability of laissez-faire or free market economy views or policies to solve economic and social problems.[1]
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TheHiveMind said:
Right wing. You mean free market capitalism, which is Liberal capitalism without the disarming manners and the costume of a bleeding heart.
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So you see, I consider you to be a capitalist, who just likes to pretend he isn't.

Here's me proving your accusation wrong

TheHiveMind said:
Liberal capitalists run their countries like businesses, to generate profits for themselves and those who bought them, not for their people. If there is profit to be made by imposing democracy, supporting revolutions, or invading countries, they will make it happen with or without consent. They want the whole world to be one big business, they don't care about their own countries, they don't care about borders, they are internationalists. They want to turn everyone into nothing but a wallet and a perpetually hungry, fat mouth. The paying consumer, that is their priority, and it's an anti human priority. Is that the way to direct the species? Market research, consumerism and infomercials?
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TheHiveMind said:
and we don't think they should, because we are not raging libertarians.
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The free market is trash ;)
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TheHiveMind said:
Steering humanity based on nothing but pocket change and bloated consumerism.
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TheHiveMind said:
Yeah, that's 1984 right there. Others have been arrested as well. Apparently you are only free to have opinions that are endorsed by internationalist liberal capitalism. So much for freedom, it's a myth, atleast we have uncovered it as such. That way we can begin to throw away liberal democracy, into the dustbin of history.
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TheHiveMind said:
According to the test:

I am a left social authoritarian
Left: 4.22, Authoritarian: 3.98
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Economically further left than you, so I guess I can call you a right winger now? Perhaps every now and then I will call you a libertarian, just to get on your nerves.
 
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TheHiveMind, have you done politicalcompass.com 's test? Because I find that result very iffy, considering your stances in previous discussions.
 
Garson007 said:
TheHiveMind, have you done politicalcompass.com 's test? Because I find that result very iffy, considering your stances in previous discussions.
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Yes I have, they are both built in the same way though, trying to push everyone to the bottom left.

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I'm anti capitalist, anti communist, economically left, socially revolutionary right.
 
I wonder when real democracy will come to the US. In other words: I wonder when the US people get their heads out of their asses and start to look at different parties than those same stupid Democrats and Republicans.
 
TheHiveMind said:
Economically further left than you, so I guess I can call you a right winger now? Perhaps every now and then I will call you a libertarian, just to get on your nerves.
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I really wouldnt care. Ive being called everything from a communist to a right wing capitalist. It all depends on whom I am talking to. Technically I am a modern social liberal I guess.

Could you do that political compass test that Garson mentions. I did try to do your quiz one, but on page two a stupid facebook popup comes up that I cant close that blocks two of the questions.

Check my results below. Doesnt look like you are further left than me economically if we compare your results to mine... but its comparing apples to oranges so do the same test :D http://www.politicalcompass.org/

abandonallhope said:
ghoti you need to be careful, your brain is clutching out harder every passing day.
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:rolleyes:

I would love to know where you come in this test. Lol: http://www.politicalcompass.org/

Garson007 said:
TheHiveMind, have you done politicalcompass.com 's test? Because I find that result very iffy, considering your stances in previous discussions.
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I just did it

daveza said:
Interesting.

I appear to be Ghandi'ish.
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Oh snap!

Here is my result:

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We appear to be in good company :)

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TheHiveMind said:
Yeah, I'm sure that me telling you I am more economically leftist than you didn't influence you at all.
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No it didnt. Ask the libertarians on this forum. Lol. They would hate you calling me a libertarian more than I could even bother to care. Just do the test. Perhaps you are more left than me. I am a modern social liberal. I am part of a modern social liberal party. I fall exactly into the modern social liberal area on that map. There were certainly some far left comments I strongly disagreed with. I promise you I was not competing for "most lefty leftist" on the forum. Its not really a title I aspire to. Too far left is bad. Just like too far right :D

I actually thought you were right wing libertarian. You use a bunch of their canards. This is I am sure why Garson is also confused.
 
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