We are required to grease the machinery

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Johannesburg - BEE company owners say they are forced to provide poor-quality goods at inflated prices to recoup the costs of paying mandatory kickbacks to corrupt politicians and government officials.

Nine black businessmen told The Star that they are required to “grease the machinery”, a term for kickbacks, or face exclusion for dubious reasons from multimillion-rand contracts.

In addition, they said they were expected regularly to donate huge sums to the ANC, its leagues, the SACP or even opposition parties in charge of a province or municipality.

The Star has learnt that the kickbacks are paid in cash, or through subcontracts given to relatives or the spouses of politicians and public servants, or the winning bidders are instructed to buy expensive “gifts”, such as cars worth up to R1 million.
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http://www.iol.co.za/business/business-news/we-are-required-to-grease-the-machinery-1.1370907#.UDyK06MueUk

Corruption has become so common place with the ANC at the helm. It is absolutely endemic...

No wonder the ANC blocked these bills in parliament

http://www.iol.co.za/news/crime-courts/anc-blocking-corruption-fight-da-1.1369581#.UDyM2KP7dD8
 
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The protests in this country will just escalate to the point where there's another "new" struggle and a long fight to change government again....
 
BEE not even working for the supposed BEE candidates.
Who saw that coming?

Nooit.
 
In addition, they said they were expected regularly to donate huge sums to the ANC, its leagues, the SACP or even opposition parties in charge of a province or municipality.
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Now this is disgusting. Yes, the other forms of corruption are sick too but we see it every day. Rarely do we have an admission that the ANC is systematically stealing money from the taxpayer to put in their own political party. This is why I wrote a blog highlighting the importance of political party funding transparency a few years ago. This sort of action is despicable and it really does highlight that corruption is not perpetuated by individuals, but is an endemic political ploy to steal tax-payer money...:mad:
 
What to do about it however? The thieves are supported by masses of indoctronated minions.

Don't know how, but I feel a strong moral obligation to start witholding tax on the basis of not supporting corruption.
 
evilstebunny said:
Don't know how, but I feel a strong moral obligation to start witholding tax on the basis of not supporting corruption.
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There is no basis in law for you to do this to the best of my knowledge. Unless your name is Michael Tellinger and you get to make up your own laws and interpretations of them...:p
 
DJ... said:
There is no basis in law for you to do this to the best of my knowledge. Unless your name is Michael Tellinger and you get to make up your own laws and interpretations of them...:p
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So the law prevents me from supporting open corruption and prevents me from keeping the ANC stealing from me? Well I never .. seems the only solution is one outside of the law then.
 
evilstebunny said:
So the law prevents me from supporting open corruption and prevents me from keeping the ANC stealing from me? Well I never .. seems the only solution is one outside of the law then.
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The law makes provisions for you to lay charges in a formal manner and to investigate what you like to eventually provide evidence in a court of law. It makes no provisions for taking the law into your own hands, which is what with-holding your PAYE would do. Besides, you cannot withhold your PAYE - it is deducted before you ever touch it. You can try to withhold your tax in other forms by short-paying creditors, but that won't get you far at all, apart from a fat interest bill...
 
intel8080 said:
So the companies are paying bribes in order to do busines.
Fixed it for you :D
Who could have believed this sheit 20 years ago?
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So those companies are part of the problem then. Same as anyone who pays a traffic cop a bribe IMO. Corrupt society breeds corrupt government.
 
Only in this case it's government instituting corruption from the top-down.

It amazes me that everyone knows Zuma for example used his position to dodge those corruption charges, but due it being 'political' theres basically nothing you & I can do about it. No wonder Malema once said something to the effect of 'Politics is all I know'
 
DJ... said:
Agreed. So lay a charge against them...
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The problem is Mr Avg Joe has no way of getting the info to lay charges. This is complicated and well hidden stuff with few snippets here and there. Really, how far would I as an aggrieved tax payer get?
 
Freshy-ZN said:
The problem is Mr Avg Joe has no way of getting the info to lay charges. This is complicated and well hidden stuff with few snippets here and there. Really, how far would I as an aggrieved tax payer get?
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You'd need conviction and money to do it privately, but the law makes provisions for you to do so. I'm merely pointing out that holding back tax won't help anything...
 
Surely there must be a law that can force journalists to reveal/report these criminals and their partners in government to the Police?

The articles paints these "business people" as victims of their circumstances, when they are just plain criminals IMO.
 
DJ... said:
You'd need conviction and money to do it privately, but the law makes provisions for you to do so. I'm merely pointing out that holding back tax won't help anything...
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Effectively the law is useless to the people really affected then. And who says withholding tax wont help? Its the most powerful tool available to us. Thats why PAYE is deducted at source- to make it really difficult, but there are other taxes that could be withheld. All it takes is enough people to be upset enough.....
 
sox63 said:
Surely there must be a law that can force journalists to reveal/report these criminals and their partners in government to the Police?
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And who would ever snitch then? Snitch and the journo is required by law to reveal your particulars to the cops? Of course not. Only under extraordinary circumstances may a judge force a journo to reveal their sources...
 
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