Telkom’s high SAT3 prices hurting businesses, consumers

The minister of communication has also recently said that ‘access to such cables [SAT3] and/or facilities is provided on a cost basis’ in the near future, but unfortunately the minister and the Department of Communications are known more for their promises than their delivery.
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indeed
 
Nice.

The repurcussions of exorbitant bandwidth pricing is much more far-reaching than most people realise.
 
The minister of communication has also recently said that ‘access to such cables [SAT3] and/or facilities is provided on a cost basis’ in the near future, but unfortunately the minister and the Department of Communications are known more for their promises than their delivery.
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So its imminent then...?
 
pieces of crap!! how can they force Botswana of all people to source their bandwidth from Telkom??? They dont even have anything to do with them so how can they even apply for a law suit? atleast the bast4ards lost the case
Go Botswana!!
 
Telkom do what they do with the blessing of the government.
Don't expect any significant changes.

Perhaps this is the telecoms 'quiet diplomacy' at work.
 
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Perhaps the word "imminent" can be redefined in the Dictionary to include the South African Government per definition.
 
Its pure economics they charge the prices because nr 1 artificial scarcity (ie GVT protection) and Nr 2 because consumers are willing to pay the prices. Nothing will change until the market is opened up...If I were Telkom I would charge inflated prices too it would not make business sense not too...
 
telkomsuig said:
Its pure economics they charge the prices because nr 1 artificial scarcity (ie GVT protection) and Nr 2 because consumers are willing to pay the prices. Nothing will change until the market is opened up...If I were Telkom I would charge inflated prices too it would not make business sense not too...
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but every1 hates them now!
When eventually there is competition, all the companies and even residential will RUN away from them.
It would make business sense to start off charging high prices when all the consumers pay for it and are ignorant.
However when there are so many complaints by business/consumers and even the president ! , they should realise that it would be in their best interest to decrease prices.. because they may make record profits now but in 5 years time what will happen??

And we are not willing to pay high pices, we are forced to !! :mad:
 
rendan said:
pieces of crap!! how can they force Botswana of all people to source their bandwidth from Telkom??? They dont even have anything to do with them so how can they even apply for a law suit? atleast the bast4ards lost the case
Go Botswana!!
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Well, I think they were the provider for Botswana until Botswana decided to go with someone else. They obviously tried their monopolistic tactics, which didn't work and was put on their place AS IT SHOULD BE HERE.

Then they did what they always do, overcharge for links they actually control. ALA, SA.

Sad init?
 
For crying out loud, what idiot at telscum thinks that the only way to communicate with the rest of the world is via SAT3? Anyone over there ever heard of satellites? Sure the latency is a bit high, but i don't mind my email coming a few ms late...

If telscum was really consumer centric they could reroute some/all non time sensitive protocols (like http/ftp/pop3/"peer-peer" and so on) through satellite links and have gaming and VoIP and so forth over SAT3. But no, that would mean ppl can use VoIP and so on, so what are the chances?

Bunch of retards. How hard can it be to reroute some traffic through another connection?
 
No **** sherlock........how many article like this are going to be published before someone wakes up ?
 
rendan said:
but every1 hates them now!
When eventually there is competition, all the companies and even residential will RUN away from them.
It would make business sense to start off charging high prices when all the consumers pay for it and are ignorant.
However when there are so many complaints by business/consumers and even the president ! , they should realise that it would be in their best interest to decrease prices.. because they may make record profits now but in 5 years time what will happen??

And we are not willing to pay high pices, we are forced to !! :mad:
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You arent foreced to, Telkom is just like any other company. I play World of Warcraft if they charge too much, then I simply wont play the game, even if I want to, if Blizzard does something stupid to the game, I cancel. Nobody is forcing me to pay Blizzard or play WoW, nobody is forcing you to use Telkom, or use their services. People were fine before Telkom came along.

If you are a home user, there is no reason for you to have a telkom line, unless you want one. If you want one you agree to pay the fees from the relevant provider. They selling you a service... accept the service, or reject it.

your choice, its your money. Where do you want your money to go. You want telecoms so bad, pay them.
 
telkomsuig said:
Its pure economics they charge the prices because nr 1 artificial scarcity (ie GVT protection) and Nr 2 because consumers are willing to pay the prices. Nothing will change until the market is opened up...If I were Telkom I would charge inflated prices too it would not make business sense not too...
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Well said...

I do fear however that by the time healthy competition arrives, the beast within TK, will not be as damaged as we all anticipate...I feel it has amassed enough assets liquid, immovable and the rest, to be too concerned about competition.

Ok so prices come down due to competition, I doubt it will damage TK that much, it may drop net profit marginally however the "other" fingers in the most deserved humble pie will make up for those losses...

I take my hat off to TK actually for being so brutally and blatantly vicious in it's approach to manipulate the regulation it falls within and suck every potential earning out of the market...it may be to my disgust and stupid, but still very brave nonetheless.

My only hope is that enough of market (client) are reached and shown what lies beneath and have the 2cents worth to commit to moving over to another competitor. This is a task of immense proportion, and forums such as this need as MUCH clout as possible in reaching the masses..
 
MrG said:
You arent foreced to, Telkom is just like any other company. I play World of Warcraft if they charge too much, then I simply wont play the game, even if I want to, if Blizzard does something stupid to the game, I cancel. Nobody is forcing me to pay Blizzard or play WoW, nobody is forcing you to use Telkom, or use their services. People were fine before Telkom came along.

If you are a home user, there is no reason for you to have a telkom line, unless you want one. If you want one you agree to pay the fees from the relevant provider. They selling you a service... accept the service, or reject it.

your choice, its your money. Where do you want your money to go. You want telecoms so bad, pay them.
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erm no!!. thats pretty daft

I am a home user and we are forced to use them.. How do we get a land line or dialup or adsl? If we dont have internet how do i bank, invest etc. etc. remote access etc. etc.

Your statement is like saying humans were fine when there were no toilets and we crapped in the bushes and used leaves to wipe... So we dont really need toilets?and we were fine without them?its a convenience but we really need it!

Thats the kind of attitude i hate about South Africa..
"Well charge what we want, use it dont use it, we dont care."

What bs
 
Southwood said that when Botswana reached an agreement to purchase bandwidth from British Telecoms, Telkom disputed this agreement but lost the battle. It did however find an easy solution to this problem. Telkom now charges more for the Gabarone-Cape Town link than the price for the Cape Town-London link.

Other Southern African countries like Lesotho and Namibia are also suffering due to Telkom’s high bandwidth prices, and have to rely on satellite connections due to these costs.
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Sooooooooooo typical... :rolleyes:

Greed will be their downfall.... and they won't see it coming until it is too late...
 
Lebanon, iran, etc. is gonna bite MTN in 4ss.. maybe not such a long term share.. but u never know
 
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