View Full Version : BMW 320i vs Audi A4 2.0TFSi vs Lexus IS250
mohammedm
31-07-2006, 03:49 PM
I am looking for a sedan and have narrowed my choice to the above 3 models.
My requirements are:
1. Not to spend over R300000.
2. I need Xenon headlights, automatic/steptronic gearshift and a leather interior.
3. Unfortunately, image plays a small part of my choice. My clients need to see me in a decent car.
4. Expecting a baby in November, so boot space is an issue.
Comments:
1. I like the built quality of the BMW and I am partial to it, but every Tom, **** & Harry, their wives, their mistresses and their mistress's personal trainer drives one. I like the 320i with a sports package and the extras I mentioned above.
2. Interior of Audi is great, but extras cost a whopping fortune - you don't even get a cupholder as standard. Also, the car is "mid-cycle" being an "upgrade" from the previous model.
3. I test drove the Lexus - stunning - the standard paddles for gearshifting almost sold me, but although the interior is upmarket, it still reminds me of a Toyota - the Prius for that matter...
Any suggestions?
lilDeath
31-07-2006, 04:07 PM
I need Xenon headlights, automatic/steptronic...
roffel... lurve the use of need here ... :D
.geek
31-07-2006, 04:07 PM
Price: £49 980 (about R534 000).
Audi RS4 (http://www.motoring.co.za/index.php?fSectionId=770&fArticleId=3210797)
He wants a car under 300k.
Yea i know - but of the models offered...RS4 gives you sick Va vooom too !
lilDeath
31-07-2006, 04:16 PM
/doh
:D
kingmonty
31-07-2006, 04:20 PM
the lexus
R534k is a lot more than R300k.
Angellus
31-07-2006, 05:16 PM
R534k is a lot more than R300k.
Actually it is R598k without options and you will likely pay around R650k.
Angellus
31-07-2006, 05:20 PM
I drove an Audi A4 2.0T DTM Edition which is basically an A4 2.0T with a body kit and better suspension. What a car, simply amazing.
The Lexus will also be great but if you want the proper version it will cost you around R357k iirc.
BMW... check my sig.
If you want something a little sporty get the A4 2.0T DTM, it costs R298k and comes with the Audi S4's Recaro seats in leather and alcantara. Not 100% sure what is standard on the car. It is only available in Manual tho but it is simply amazing how well the controls work.
The other thing is there wont be many around.
It is hard to choose between the DTM and the Lexus.
swordfish1
31-07-2006, 05:24 PM
1. I like the built quality of the BMW and I am partial to it, but every Tom, **** & Harry, their wives, their mistresses and their mistress's personal trainer drives one.
so is the Audi A4! Everybody drives one, even worse than BMW! I guess if you want a car that not everybody drives, you better consider buying a second hand one level up, like BMW 5xx or Audi A6, or Merc E class. You can get one under maintenance plan for about R300K I think.
Angellus
31-07-2006, 05:26 PM
A4 Sedan 2.0T FSI® multitronic®
Xenons
Sports Package
R306 600
Angellus
31-07-2006, 05:27 PM
I am looking for a sedan and have narrowed my choice to the above 3 models.
My requirements are:
1. Not to spend over R300000.
2. I need Xenon headlights, automatic/steptronic gearshift and a leather interior.
3. Unfortunately, image plays a small part of my choice. My clients need to see me in a decent car.
4. Expecting a baby in November, so boot space is an issue.
Comments:
1. I like the built quality of the BMW and I am partial to it, but every Tom, **** & Harry, their wives, their mistresses and their mistress's personal trainer drives one. I like the 320i with a sports package and the extras I mentioned above.
2. Interior of Audi is great, but extras cost a whopping fortune - you don't even get a cupholder as standard. Also, the car is "mid-cycle" being an "upgrade" from the previous model.
3. I test drove the Lexus - stunning - the standard paddles for gearshifting almost sold me, but although the interior is upmarket, it still reminds me of a Toyota - the Prius for that matter...
Any suggestions?
PFffftttt get the BMW then :rolleyes:
Angellus
31-07-2006, 05:29 PM
How far past R300k can you push?
2003 Audi S4 4.2 Quatro Dolphin Grey Metallic 62 500 km, Petrol, Sedan, 5 Doors, Manual 6 speed, ABS, Adjustable seat lumbar support, Adjustable seats, Adjustable steering column/wheel, Air bags, Alarm, CD Multichanger, Sunroof electric. Gerhard Joubert 083 560 0186 / 0739323537
Audi Durban
Kwazulu Natal
Tel: 031 314-5000 or 083 560 0186
Price: R 319 990
You can get auto's as well but a little harder to find.
Angellus
31-07-2006, 05:32 PM
Here you go, extend the motorplan by say 20 000km and enjoy.
2002 BMW 7 Series E65 745i Toledo Blue 70 000 km, Automatic, (Steptronic). Sand beige leather. This car comes full house with features like Glass sunroof, Navigation and Dynamic Drive. Balance of motorplan to 100 000km or 11 July 2007. Please note that standard features are not listed. Trade-ins welcome. Viewing by appointment only. Call Jean on 083 268 9329 or Richard on 083 377 1112.
Drive Vision
Gauteng
Tel: 011 786-5551 or 083 268 9329
Price: R 294 950
Really ugly car but awesome value.
Highflyer_GP
31-07-2006, 08:31 PM
Eish at least give the guy an objective and unbiased opinion :p
Go for the IS250, simply for the reason that it's not as common as the other 2. It'll stand out more in a parking lot and your clients will be more impressed with something stylish but different.
Angellus
31-07-2006, 08:38 PM
Eish at least give the guy an objective and unbiased opinion :p
Go for the IS250, simply for the reason that it's not as common as the other 2. It'll stand out more in a parking lot and your clients will be more impressed with something stylish but different.
Would only take the Lexus if it was the IS350. I personally think it is the best option if you dont want something sporty. Great looker lots of standard features and having had a LS400 in the past I can vouch for the quality. It will also be far less common than either the BMW or the Audi.
I do see a BMW 320 as extremely common.
IF you are not after performance then get the lexus, if you are then wait for the IS350 and get that or get the A4 2.0T now.
sonxEr77
23-01-2008, 02:21 PM
Bump...
I drive BMW 320i (a 2005 model bought with 30ks on this dec), nice car... My friends think i'm rich but the car is now about 3yrs old
Dolby
23-01-2008, 02:38 PM
I drove an Audi A4 2.0T DTM Edition which is basically an A4 2.0T with a body kit and better suspension. What a car, simply amazing.
As far as I know, the DTM also has a different mapping system taking it to about 162kw from the standard 147kw.
I'd go for either the Audi or Lexus.
Dolby
23-01-2008, 02:39 PM
Lastly, why not add the Volvo T5 to the equation ... ?
Dolby
23-01-2008, 02:44 PM
As far as I know, the DTM also has a different mapping system taking it to about 162kw from the standard 147kw.
Odd - www.audi.co.za says 147kw still ...
venom
23-01-2008, 02:44 PM
4. Expecting a baby in November, so boot space is an issue.
Wouldn't recommend putting the baby in your boot. 1st time parent? :p
sonxEr77
23-01-2008, 02:45 PM
Wouldn't recommend putting the baby in your boot. 1st time parent? :p
lol:D
killadoob
23-01-2008, 02:46 PM
bmw is not an up market classy car
audi that does not come with a cup holder bwhahaha
the lex just screams class
so depends what you do as to what car you should get
sox63
23-01-2008, 02:49 PM
I am looking for a sedan and have narrowed my choice to the above 3 models.
My requirements are:
1. Not to spend over R300000.
2. I need Xenon headlights, automatic/steptronic gearshift and a leather interior.
3. Unfortunately, image plays a small part of my choice. My clients need to see me in a decent car.
4. Expecting a baby in November, so boot space is an issue.
Comments:
1. I like the built quality of the BMW and I am partial to it, but every Tom, **** & Harry, their wives, their mistresses and their mistress's personal trainer drives one. I like the 320i with a sports package and the extras I mentioned above.
2. Interior of Audi is great, but extras cost a whopping fortune - you don't even get a cupholder as standard. Also, the car is "mid-cycle" being an "upgrade" from the previous model.
3. I test drove the Lexus - stunning - the standard paddles for gearshifting almost sold me, but although the interior is upmarket, it still reminds me of a Toyota - the Prius for that matter...
Any suggestions?
Lexus is the clear choice. Either way you gonna end up paying more than 300k, if you take the base models of the BMW and Audi and then add the extras.
Try and see if you can the SE version of the Lexus. Very much worth it. I'm getting mine next week.
adamr
23-01-2008, 02:50 PM
IS250 gets my vote ... the sport kit on them dont look too bad either ... and im a BMW guy :)
sonxEr77
23-01-2008, 02:51 PM
hehe! i bumped this thread (about two years old)... Wonder if ppl check the original dates when replying to threads...
Dolby
23-01-2008, 02:54 PM
Whoops! Didn't notice ;)
I was in the same dillema as you and went for a bmw. Yes everyone drives them - so what. It is a great car that still retain its allure. I love the Audi boot but the car does not do much for me. It it too clinical.
I drive a BMW. Trust me those paddleshift/tiptronic/other gizmos are not worth it. I stick it in normal auto all teh time.
Get a demo bmw that is loaded with options instead of a standard sports pack.
The xenon headlights are awesome - also if you are getting a sports version - you must get one with a sunroof. it completes the look.
wantedz
23-01-2008, 05:00 PM
The new Audi A4 is coming out later this year (second quarter). Maybe you should wait for the new shape. http://www.audi.co.za/preview/a4.php
goldeneagle
02-12-2009, 09:56 PM
I say stay with German tech, toyota (lexus) is just missing class and that feeling of safety. If you like to feel the road then the BMW, if you like a more cumfortable drive then the Audi
Brawler
02-12-2009, 10:01 PM
lol @ thread revive.
thedutchman
02-12-2009, 10:17 PM
dude, the baby is already a year old! hahaha
rurapente
02-12-2009, 10:51 PM
the choice if obvious, the new Renault Megane 1.9dci with 17 inch mags, in black with dark windows, a nice JBL 12" in the back.... *drool*
Voicy
02-12-2009, 11:40 PM
dude, the baby is already a year old! hahaha
Yeah - now the baby can sit on the backseat instead of in the boot :D
You havent mentioned it here but you should have a look at the Jetta / Passat cars too, they are fancy cars, the interior is top notch and youll be amazed at how much boot space there is, basically the better priced cousin to the audi, The petrol and Diesel prices are close for the 2 litre variants, and both drive extremely well.
Just something to consider?
Edit: nevermind just noticed post date.
ALFAHOLIC
03-12-2009, 08:55 AM
narrow it down furhter, to the A4 and the Lexus...kick that BMW to the curb!
or wait for the new Alfa Giulietta!!!
Please lock thread now
this is just silly
/facepunch goldeneagle
ALFAHOLIC
03-12-2009, 09:02 AM
Please lock thread now
this is just silly
/facepunch goldeneagle
:p
Dolby
03-12-2009, 09:15 AM
Actually the baby just had their 3rd birthday ;)
Kompete
03-12-2009, 09:44 AM
lol, blast from the past
Perhaps he needs to upgrade then
I hear the Audi RS6 is a HUGE stationwagon :)
plus the sunroof has a solar panel built into it that keeps the aircon running while the car is parked, I would buy it just for that.
Seriously I would.
BMW is crap these days so won't even consider.
The Lexus comes equipped with everything but the kitchen sink, BUT weighs a lot, so performance is okay-ish.
Also, the ride is a bit soft for my liking, whereas the Audi's is a bit more stiff so you have more confidence taking that corner faster.
Audi for me.
AMG133
03-12-2009, 11:07 AM
Lexus hands down, you cant compare it to the other 2 models IMO. It will be the most expensive but its totally worth it. I know what you mean by its still a toyota but then again sit in that then sit in the other 2, Lexus interior is far better.
Hogrod
03-12-2009, 11:21 AM
Lastly, why not add the Volvo T5 to the equation ... ?
I second that, though it must be an R-Design! ;)
Vegeta
03-12-2009, 11:28 AM
Isnt tis thread from 2006? LOL This oke needed xenons paddleshift and a cupholder 3years ago. These days u can prob get that in an entry level hyundai pffft
Dolby
03-12-2009, 12:02 PM
I second that, though it must be an R-Design! ;)
+1 ;)
I see someone selling an S40 R Design here actually http://search.autotrader.co.za/www/cars_advert?id=200946186287976
lol its like people dont read the posts at all
The guys going to be shopping for a car for his kid soon, at least this thread will still be active and he can look to it for advice
SteveO
03-12-2009, 02:14 PM
this thread is made of lol!
dlk001
03-12-2009, 02:47 PM
I am looking for a sedan and have narrowed my choice to the above 3 models.
My requirements are:
1. Not to spend over R300000.
2. I need Xenon headlights, automatic/steptronic gearshift and a leather interior.
3. Unfortunately, image plays a small part of my choice. My clients need to see me in a decent car.
4. Expecting a baby in November, so boot space is an issue.
Any suggestions?
Then stay away from Lexus. Its the sensible choice but wont boost your image like the BMW.
Dolby
03-12-2009, 03:30 PM
I find it odd how people perceive car brands and image very differently :/
I'd rate Audi over BMW in terms of image/prestige - especially a 320i.
Lastly, why not add the Volvo T5 to the equation ... ?
Bet you didnt think youd be driving one almost 2 years later...:p
Dolby
03-12-2009, 03:52 PM
Bet you didnt think youd be driving one almost 2 years later...:p
Not at all ;)
I'm not sure if the C30 was around then either (I meant the S40 in my post) - and I'd never ever have bought a Volvo had there not been a hatch version.
I've always admired the T5 engine and value though
peace
06-12-2009, 12:00 PM
Every tom D & Harry got the BMW because its a good car.
After i sold my bm i bought volvo then Audi. when i had bm i used to go out some time for reason (olny realized after its gone). after volvo S40 then Audi A4 now i want to buy bm again.
excitement you get in bm you not gonna get in A4 or is250.
alpine
09-12-2009, 11:51 AM
IS250 all the way.
+1 voted most fun car to drive 2009