Extremely biast news reporting in the South Africa media

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Ive being watching this for a couple of weeks now, and I have refrained from commenting up until now. I cant anymore. The news reporting has become so one sided I don't know how to be able to trust the information I am getting on the situation.

Understand I support neither side, as this is simply an argument about which god has the largest <censored man hood> size.

However, the press has being completely one sided to that of the Lebanese plight. A simple look through today's headlines will show you what I mean.

"Children killed in southern Lebanon" etc etc. Yes, children are getting killed, but I BLAME THEIR PARENTS. Israel has being dropping pamphlets over Southern Lebanon for the last couple of weeks warning people that their area is going to get nailed. What type of parent are you to allow your kids to stay in that area? Disgusting.

I believe both sides have fair arguments in the micro scale. Israel wants to stop the rockets raining down on northern Israel, and Lebanon wants to stop the attacks into its lands.

However, the Lebanese government does not have the ability to control Hezbollah in its lands, and since Hezbollah has 15 000 rockets raining down on Israel, and Lebanon cant do anything about it, I think Israel has the right to take them down.

Something I would like to point out here. Israel uses American supplied military hardware. These are precision ordnance designed to take out specific targets. Civilians are not targeted, and Israeli warplanes drop pamphlets over an area they are about to nail before the attack. Israeli damages to civilians is unintended, and they do try to avoid it as much as possible.

Hezbollah has completely unguided rocket systems (they're basically an adaption of Stalin's organs), these are shot into residential areas to cause max damage. They target civilians intentionally. They have no collateral damage.

I think its a little unfair, to paint Israel with the wrong brush, when they seriously are going out of their way to minimize the loss of civilian lives, while hezbollah are specifically targeting civilians.

Why don't parents move their kids out of the area? Why don't Hezbollah stop using civilians as shield?

I'm not getting into the lame argument about who is right and who is wrong. Just by watching the international news, I am more inclined to support Israel, as I cant remember the last time Hezbollah warned the civilians that they are trying to kill, that they are about to be attacked.

I think I realized why South Africa has such a biased view of the situation, and Ill quote :
"humanity gone mad", South African Deputy Minister of Foreign Affairs Aziz Pahad said on Monday

Somehow, I don't think I can count on Mr Pahad for a fair and impartial choice, in the roll of my country, and its reaction to the middle east rubbish. We should simply NOT GET INVOLVED. Its a war based on racism and imaginary best friends, and I think making silly comments like this minister did, simply puts us with most of the rest of the world in the idiot boat, in picking a side.


A cartoon I found to picturefy the situation http://www.barking-moonbat.com/images/uploads/varvel15.jpg
 
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I have the exact same problem. In fact I do not even read the local newspaper anymore, I find it kind of mind numbing, as one is simply being force fed a load of one sided rubbish that leaves nothing for the reader to actually think for one's self. My solution...
Two Words: Google News
 
They interviewed a resident of Kafr Qana and asked her why she didn't move - as advised two weeks ago -. She said she didn't have money for the taxi!

Really, is this how the Lebanese people behave when things get tough - squeezing money out of people when transport is available, but they won't take helpless people in it unless they cough up the cash? Sick!
 
w1z4rd said:
I cant remember the last time Hezbollah warned the civilians that they are trying to kill, that they are about to be attacked.
Never mind the ppl they're aiming for, how about their own supporters/country men, for whom they fight.

How much effort would it have been for them to do the following ... "Hey guys, were planning to launch some rockets from this area tomorrow. Can we help to temporarily relocate your families to another basement a couple of km down the road, so that when retaliation fire comes in, you'll be out of harms way".

It is their own neighbourhoods after all?
 
Hey w1z4rd. gGeat, they dropped pamphlets for a few days (not weeks), and then they target cars and such on the roads, taxi drivers ask at least $800 because the trips are so dangerous, most people dont have their own cars. Yeah, they people could easily get out with their children...
 
how many highways out of the cities were destroyed in the first few days again??
 
Yeah I agree with w1z4rd.

This country is pro-Muslim because some of their lackeys are in government - I mean how biased can it be when a Muslim (Pahad) is "trying to sort out the conflict"? Not that anyone should care about South Africa imposing sanctions on Israel...do Israel really really care when they've got US-backing?

Unfortunately the Muslim Judicial Council (MJC) is influential body in SA, so as they're around, nothing is going to change.
 
for the record, update to this:

SA calls Israeli attacks violation of law, Geneva Convention
The government has issued its strongest condemnation of Israeli action, calling its attacks on Gaza and Lebanon violations of international law and the Geneva Convention.
[Full Story...]

Our minister is getting us into more trouble. This guy is down right lying and inciting the silly people of this world.

Israel dropped pamphlets over the area before they went in!!!! YOU STUPID IDOT MR South African Deputy Minister of Foreign Affairs Aziz Pahad. DONT draw us into your retarded war!!!! Do you want them to send a courtesy call to all those idiots who decided to stay behind in a war zone?

Please note, this guy does NOT speak for the majority of south africans!!! And is abusing his power as a Minister of South Africa to push a religious agenda!
 
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supersunbird. wrong. the pamphlets were dropped a couple of weeks ago. If you are still in the area, you are looking for a fight. If you still have your kids in the area, then I hope you as the parent get killed, and your kids dont have to suffer for your religious stupidity.

Krycor: the rest of the people are getting out, or is just this few who cant seem to find a working highway. When you KNOW an attacking force in operating in your area... do you let a simple thing like a broken highway on flat arid land stop you? Sorry, that's a silly argument. Ive got through mud wells in the transkei, just trying to make it home for supper. So basicaly you are saying that the Lebanese are to stupid to get around a broken highway?

If I knew my country was not able to control guerilla fighters, and that they were targeting civillians in a better armed, better equiped nation next to me, and that nation had dropped leaflets explaining their intent to pwn the area, i would have made my car swim to get my family and I out of there. Suprisingly enough, I actually care for my family more than I care for comparing g0d penii size.
 
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aaah i see you people missed me today. :D

had no one to oppose your anti-islamic comments and views.
but anyway i gave up commenting on your dumb pathetic articles. brainwashed by Israel and the US, britain...blah blah.

by the way this aint going to stop, its just going stronger.
the amount of people that have realised the Barbarism that Israel and USA are inflicting on people is increasing everyday more and more.

i have in the last 2-3 months met alot of people from all over SA different races mostly white that have condemned Israel for their actions and met quite a few people that have reverted to Islam.

millions of people realise the truth everyday and see how barbaric and inhumane Israel and its allies are.

even the media realise it even after 911 which was a tragedy they actually see the cause that these people are fighting and rightly fighting for.

and someone quoted the MJC? i think they are bunch of useless people just out there for money and not to serve the people, most of these organisations do that.

look at things neutrally.
 
Sunnic said:
aaah i see you people missed me today. :D

had no one to oppose your anti-islamic comments and views.
but anyway i gave up commenting on your dumb pathetic articles. brainwashed by Israel and the US, britain...blah blah.

by the way this aint going to stop, its just going stronger.
the amount of people that have realised the Barbarism that Israel and USA are inflicting on people is increasing everyday more and more.

i have in the last 2-3 months met alot of people from all over SA different races mostly white that have condemned Israel for their actions and met quite a few people that have reverted to Islam.

millions of people realise the truth everyday and see how barbaric and inhumane Israel and its allies are.

even the media realise it even after 911 which was a tragedy they actually see the cause that these people are fighting and rightly fighting for.

and someone quoted the MJC? i think they are bunch of useless people just out there for money and not to serve the people, most of these organisations do that.

look at things neutrally.

anti islamic??? you see people, what we have here, is a religious nut. Im not anti-islamic, im anti-religion (as long as religion is used as a form of oppression) mate. Get off your high religious horse their for a minute and read what I say. Im not jewish, im not christian and i sure as hell aint muslim.

You will notice that my comments are directed at BOTH religions. You should notice me calling BOTH of them retarded.

No, instead you take what I say, and spew your religious propaganda all over it, and twist it to how you see fit. You also twist normal facts. Well I can tell you one thing... If i was a soilder fighting both Hezballoh and the US... and I had a choice which country was going to capture me, I would choose the US ANY DAY OF THE WEEK. Why? because theyre not the barbarians you so glibly lie about. Hezballoh would most likely slice my head off. Americans wouldnt.

I tell you what I do hate. Religious propagandanists like you.

Remember. Gods dont kill people. People with gods kill people.
 
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if i were you i wouldnt say that in public your phrase is soon to be taboo in the world.

you have no idea how the world is turning against these oppressors
 
w1z4rd said:
supersunbird. wrong. the pamphlets were dropped a couple of weeks ago. If you are still in the area, you are looking for a fight. If you still have your kids in the area, then I hope you as the parent get killed, and your kids dont have to suffer for your religious stupidity.

The kidnapping of the soldiers happened only about 2 weeks ago... :rolleyes:
 
Okay, now you are sounding like the iraqi information minister during the iraqi war:

"There are no American infidels in Baghdad. Never!"

"My feelings - as usual - we will slaughter them all"

"Our initial assessment is that they will all die"

"I blame Al-Jazeera - they are marketing for the Americans!"

"God will roast their stomachs in hell at the hands of Iraqis."

"They're coming to surrender or be burned in their tanks."

"No I am not scared, and neither should you be!"

"Be assured. Baghdad is safe, protected"

"I can assure you that those villains will recognize, will discover in appropriate time in the future how stupid they are and how they are pretending things which have never taken place."

"We have destroyed 2 tanks, fighter planes, 2 helicopters and their shovels - We have driven them back."

"The authority of the civil defense ... issued a warning to the civilian population not to pick up any of those pencils because they are booby traps," he said, adding that the British and American forces were "immoral mercenaries" and "war criminals" for such behavior.
"I am not talking about the American people and the British people," he said. "I am talking about those mercenaries. ... They have started throwing those pencils, but they are not pencils, they are booby traps to kill the children."

"We have them surrounded in their tanks"

"The American press is all about lies! All they tell is lies, lies and more lies!"

"I have detailed information about the situation...which completely proves that what they allege are illusions . . . They lie every day."

"Lying is forbidden in Iraq. President Saddam Hussein will tolerate nothing but truthfulness as he is a man of great honor and integrity. Everyone is encouraged to speak freely of the truths evidenced in their eyes and hearts."

http://www.welovetheiraqiinformationminister.com/
 
WTF?

If you dont know what you're talking...

Source:

Beginning of conflict
At 9:05 AM local time, a ground contingent of Hezbollah militants attacked two Israeli armored Humvees on a routine patrol along the Israel-Lebanon border near the Israeli village of Zar'it with anti-tank rockets, abducting two Israeli soldiers, and killing three.[12] Five others were killed later on the Lebanese side of the border on 12 July during a mission to rescue the two captured soldiers. [13]According to the Lebanese police force and Hezbollah, the Israeli soldiers were attacked and captured on the Lebanese side of the border on 12 July during a mission to infiltrate the Lebanese town of Ayta al-Sha`b.[14]

The IDF confirmed the capture of the two Israeli soldiers on 13 July and identified them as Ehud Goldwasser and Eldad Regev, both reservists who were on their last day of operational duty.[15]

Early on 13 July 2006 Israel sent IDF jets to bomb Lebanon's international airport near Beirut, forcing its closure and diverting its arriving flights to Cyprus. Israel is now imposing an air and sea blockade on Lebanon,[25][26] and has bombed the main Beirut–Damascus highway.[27]

The Israeli Air Force has carried out nearly 2,000 bombing sorties across Lebanon, especially targeting transportation infrastructure.[28]

On 14 July, following Israeli bombing raids on Lebanon which result in killing 60 civilians [40] Nasrallah said, addressing Israel: "You wanted an open war, and we are heading for an open war. We are ready for it."[41]

If you will could count with me, thats 19 days, not even 3 weeks altogether. I'm just asserting the facts, so erroneous views/lies dont previal, not disputing your views.
 
w1z4rd said:

Israel is warning hundreds of thousands of residents to flee from southern Lebanon as it edges toward a full ground invasion. Thousands of Israeli troops are reportedly already operating inside the Lebanese border. Israeli planes dropped leaflets and broadcast warnings telling people they would be in danger if they remained in the region.

Meanwhile, Israel's bombardment of Lebanon is continuing for a tenth day. Warplanes targeted more that 40 sites on Friday, mainly in southern Lebanon. The number of Lebanese killed now tops 330 - nearly all of them civilians. About half a million people have been displaced - or one in eight residents. Bombed-out roads and bridges are hampering aid efforts. The UN has warned the humanitarian crisis is worsening by the hour.

Thanks for the link...
 
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