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40% of Americans want Muslims to carry ID's
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arf9999
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...sort of like a yellow star with "Juden" printed on it?
arf9999
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...but 40% is pretty scary. Considering the low voter turnout in the US....
SFW? We carry ID's around in the form of Driver's licenses. And the new proposed ID card system will be obligatory to carry around with you at all times, particulary as they plan on linking all sorts of carp to the id card.
This is not news
This is not news
What is the correlation between voter turnout and a Gallup poll about Muslim ID cards?
arf9999
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If you have a high incidence of a particular strong or radical view (and 39% is very high, although still minority), and a small voting population, the risk is that a minority view is used as a catayst by unscrupulous politicians to bolster their support. I'm prepared to place odds that the majority of that 39% view is from the "Red" states...
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Turbo_Aspiration
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We ALL would have to, not just a certain group of us based on race/religion/wat car u drive
Gallup polls use a random sampling to keep bias to a minimum. I've seen nothing to suggest that the 39% is more strategically placed to influence policy making.
This would never make it into law and even if it did I'm sure it would be struck down on constitutional issues alone.
Exactly what first came into my head when I read it. Horrible! Next thing tattooed ID numbers!
SuperAntMD
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You're missing the point here me thinks, 40% of 280 million people is alot.
Making only Muslims carry special ID cards is as vulgar an idea as can be imagined. arf is right it is far too reminiscent of the yelow star. This shows the underlying prejudice which is growing in America. Which could lead to terrible injustices, its not hard to imagine this escalating into some sort of attrocities.
But I don't believe it is constitutional, which is to say it would never happen. And that (human rights; civil liberties) is what separates the US from so many of the enemies that seek to bring it down.
Making only Muslims carry special ID cards is as vulgar an idea as can be imagined. arf is right it is far too reminiscent of the yelow star. This shows the underlying prejudice which is growing in America. Which could lead to terrible injustices, its not hard to imagine this escalating into some sort of attrocities.
But I don't believe it is constitutional, which is to say it would never happen. And that (human rights; civil liberties) is what separates the US from so many of the enemies that seek to bring it down.
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You don't know you history very well.
What about Gitmo then ???.
After Pearl Harbour about 120,000 American citizens of Japanese descent was kept prisoner in internment camps.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japanese_American_internment
SuperAntMD
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American? No you're right, I stand corrected. But I would still be shocked to see them do something like this ever again.
arf9999
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I'm not arguing about the gallup poll... it is probably statistically accurate, my concern is the leveraging of these views by unethical politicians.
Hold it... you've made the classic error of taking the total percent of a surveyed percentage in a statistical group and applied said percentage to the whole population
To say 40% of 280 million people is quite simply completely inaccurate.Anyway, this is just another statistic made for media.
SuperAntMD
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Hold it... you've made the classic error of taking the total percent of a surveyed percentage in a statistical group and applied said percentage to the whole population
Anyway, this is just another statistic made for media.
Well, yes and no. Obviously they didn't survey a couple hundred million people, but a survey should be representational of the population in question and is therefore designed to be extrapolated otherwise it would be pointless.
But I agree with you, obviously extrapolating in this case could be a silly thing to do.
They surveyed 1007 adult Americans - that doesnt mean to say they didnt get a decent cross section and polling is what they do. I wonder how many were adult American Muslims?
arf9999
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Hold it... you've made the classic error of taking the total percent of a surveyed percentage in a statistical group and applied said percentage to the whole population
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Why? I'm sure Gallup will be prepared to share their methodology, and in most situations, the result of a survey of a large enough representative sample will be representative of the population (within a strictly defined error range).