LCD - please help me choose one

[Vercogen]

I'm lookin to buy a LCD monitor.

I have 2 in mind::confused:

The LG 19" Ultra Slim. Model nr: L1970HR:

http://za.lge.com/md/product/prodcategorylist.do?actType=detail&currPage=1&categoryId=0200060102&parentCategoryId=0200000601&categoryLevel=4&productId=1100000788&productImage=&modelCodeDisplay=L1980U&selectModel=1100000788&PageName=Top&Query1=&isFirst=ok#

OR



The Acer Turbo Gaming - 19". Model nr AL1951Cs

http://www.acer.co.za/acereuro/page4.do?sp=page3&dau22.oid=14992&UserCtxParam=0&GroupCtxParam=0&dctx1=23&CountryISOCtxParam=ZA&LanguageISOCtxParam=en&crc=1905171002


I'm going to use it for gaming mostly, if you have something better in mind in the same price range post it here:D :D

[ghoti]

look which one has a better reponse time, compare that to the prices, and then make your choice.

[JStrike]

Not sure what the prices are for those monitors are, but I have a 20" Apple Cinema Display and must recommend it to anyone looking for a good LCD

[ghoti]

Before listening to jstike (even though the monitor he suggests is pretty awsome), it may not be for gaming, and might have a slow response time.

Its also really pricey. I have never known MAC to be anything special in gaming, so I would take a very careful look at its reponse times.

[Vercogen]

look which one has a better reponse time, compare that to the prices, and then make your choice.

The LG has a 2ms and the acer 4ms

It is so close that's why i'm bothered about the other specs as well.;)

[JStrike]

Best to listen to w1z4d here. Last game I played was was in the mid 90's

[Peppercorns]

The one with the faster response time is better for gaming...
Although with any response time equal to or lower than 8ms, you'll hardly notice the difference ;)

[MrE]

The one with the faster response time is better for gaming...
Although with any response time equal to or lower than 8ms, you'll hardly notice the difference ;)

Agreed!
If anyone can notice any difference between 8ms, 5ms, 4ms or 2ms, then I strongly suggest they investigate a career that utilises super-human-seeing-abilities.
Quite honestly IMO, save yourself some cash and get a quality 8ms screen.
IMO it's money down the toilet shelling out for ultra-fast response times.

[Elfreako]

I say anything lower than 16ms is good. Hmmm...someone who is not looking at getting a widescreen LCD, rare lol...seems everyone wants a widescreen these days

One thing you might want to note is the Acer has crystalbrite...if you gonna be doing office work i would recommend against it!

[Nokkie]

The LG 19" Ultra Slim. Model nr: L1970HR:
i have one at work it's a great lcd (never choose acer to many come backs)

[MrE]

Bottom Line:
With a super-fast pixel-response rating and a stylish design, the 19-inch LG L1970HR display works better for gaming than for lengthy Word docs.
Pros:
Lightning-fast pixel response. Bright, vivid colors. Great gaming performance.
Cons:
Weak grayscale performance. Has trouble displaying small text.

Source: PCmag.com

[scotty777]

acer all the way bro... they cheap and dam good....

[xenithon]

#1: response times nowadays are virtually meaningless. 99% of them are not correct (PR bullsheeeet) and they hardly ever tell you WHAT they are measuring...ie. GTG, average, best etc.
#2: better indications are brightness and contrast ratio, and better yet the panel type (PVA, IPS, S/M-PVA, S-IPS etc.)
#3: reviews are very useful, in particular the subjective parts, ie. how the LCD is in actual use as opposed to what the useless printed spec sheet it comes with tells you
#4: if you can, go to a shop/distributor/friend which has them and try them out...nothing worse than buying blind (literally!)
#5: DVI, DVI and DVI. I still don't see much point getting a digital display such as an LCD and using an analog signal. Even if you don't have DVI output now, rather have that option for futureproofing. That said though I see both your choices have them.

Oh, and if you use it purely for gaming and thus want that uber-low response time you can get a BenQ FP93GX monitor for around R2.8k which is also a 2ms rated monitor with good gaming reviews; as well as the Samsung 940BF which is very nice indeed IMO. Otherwise, I would opt for the LG for sure.

Oh an one last comment to bear in mind - I always try suggest going either for 17" or 20", not 19". The reason: 19" and 17" have the same native res....pixels are just larger in the 19". Once you jump to 20" (wide or not) it's another ballgame. Only around 7% more physical size, but around 35% more pixels! Makes a beeeg difference.

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[Nokkie]

what about a 21" xenithon?

[xenithon]

If you can swing a 21" then that is great too. Since there are so many more pixels, something like a 20.1" and 21" are very similar....you'll never tell a difference in pixel size (unlike 17" vs. 19" where it is noticeable). 22" is ok, but a bit of a stretch IMO....the next step up would be 23" or 24" which are generally always wide, where the res jumps up another notch to 1920x1200.

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[MrE]

I see ur point about 17" and 19", and I've heard it before quite a few times,
..but from another point of view, If having to choose between a 17" and 19", I'll always get a 19", why? because I enjoy a bigger screen. (same no. of pixels or not, I don't care)
and anyway, the price difference btwn a 19" and a 20" is much bigger than between a 17" and 19".
So until I have saved up enough moola for a 20" or bigger, I'd rather have a 19", wouldn't you!?
Wow, I think I'm repeating myself! ;)

[Vercogen]

Lol

[Peppercorns]

Hmmm....just a question,

Would there actually be a difference if you connected your LCD to your PC through DVI or analog? :confused:

Reason being, my LCD came with a DVI and an Analog port, but only came with the analog connecting wire. So i wanted to know if it would be worth going out and getting a DVI one, or if that would just be wasting my time.

[LethalChicken]

I've just bought the Samsung 940BF, really good monitor (2ms). I have tried both thte DVI and analog, the diffrence in playing games and playing movies is minimal. However when i have visual studio open and spend hours debugging code, it does put a lot less strain on your eyes. The small letters are a bit clearer and sharper with the DVI connection.

As I said it's not a HUGE diffrence, but to put a bit less strain on your eyes is worth the R100 you'll spend on the cable.


Also remember to run in the recommended resolution.

I'm used to 1024x768, but this monitor is rated 1280x1024 ... the diffrence in quality is HUGE!!! ... 1024x768, very blurry text, 1280x1024 crystal clear!

[Peppercorns]

Thanx Blobnow...much appreciated

[rsachoc]

Turn on Cleartype as well, makes a big difference.

[AmonRe]

Were could i get a decent 21" widscreen display which i can hook up to my dvd player via component and my playstation 2 via s-video, i need one locally that has both these connection otions as well as DVI?

[mic_y]

AmonRe, How much cash you willing to spend? I can get you an Asus widescreen 20.1" monitor with all your requirements. Not cheap though unfortunatly. Got a webcam as well, but that is more of a gimmick if u ask me. If you interested I can get you a price.

[Highflyer_GP]

Hey guys

While we on the topic, I'm looking for a 17" LCD with 8ms response time. Any suggestions on price and where to get them from in the Jhb area? Not too fond of buying larger items online, so preferably a shop that I can personally collect it from.

Thanks

[Azrael]

AmonRe, How much cash you willing to spend? I can get you an Asus widescreen 20.1" monitor with all your requirements. Not cheap though unfortunatly. Got a webcam as well, but that is more of a gimmick if u ask me. If you interested I can get you a price.

How much is that Asus going for? Saw some pics a while ago..looked quite good.

[mic_y]

Tis a tad on the expensive side: R6200.

20.1", 8ms, 1680x1050
3port downstream hub, 1.3mp webcam.
DVI, DSUB, RCA, S-Video, Component.

Pretty much anything you could ever want, except tis not cheap... I want one :(

[viceroy]

Oh, and if you use it purely for gaming and thus want that uber-low response time you can get a BenQ FP93GX monitor for around R2.8k which is also a 2ms rated monitor with good gaming reviews; as well as the Samsung 940BF which is very nice indeed IMO. Otherwise, I would opt for the LG for sure.

I don't know where you do your shopping but I picked one of these babies up on the weekend for R1999 ex vat from PC International in Randburg...and yes, they do sell to the public.

[viceroy]

Hey guys

While we on the topic, I'm looking for a 17" LCD with 8ms response time. Any suggestions on price and where to get them from in the Jhb area? Not too fond of buying larger items online, so preferably a shop that I can personally collect it from.

Thanks

PC International, Hendrik Verwoerd Drive in Randburg
http://www.PCInt.co.za

You'll be hard pressed to beat their pricing by anything other than dealer prices.

[DearHeart]

PC International, Hendrik Verwoerd Drive in Randburg
http://www.PCInt.co.za

You'll be hard pressed to beat their pricing by anything other than dealer prices.

Agreed! How in the world do they sell the Intel Core 2 Duo E6600 for R2499 (ex), that's way cheaper than the other guys.

Nevermind, the war is on
(http://www.prophecy.co.za/) with Prophecy firing the next shot at R2799 including VAT!

[vampirotoothus]

Bwhahahaha...talk about going off topic!:D

[vampirotoothus]

But seriously now...Go for the one with the lowest response time. The lower the better. I have a 19" Samsung with 2ms response time and I'm playing games like there is no tomorrow! Oblivion at 1280 x 1024, nogal!:D

[Vercogen]

But seriously now...Go for the one with the lowest response time. The lower the better. I have a 19" Samsung with 2ms response time and I'm playing games like there is no tomorrow! Oblivion at 1280 x 1024, nogal!:D


The problem is my supplier don't have samsung do you no where i can find it for cheap