New kid should help SA become more competitive — minister

So is her Poiusonous Ivyness' resignation """imminent"""? - now that the SNO [NOTel] has launched wholesale bandwidth services...

If memory serves, Ivy hinted that she would descend the steps of power & hand over her throne once the SNO had launched [or was it licensed :confused:].

Here's to another term of the dictatorial & oppressive rule of her Poisonous Ivyness...long may her lum reek - hopefully as a result of using all those A & B share certificates to get her through the next winter of malcontented telecoms sector failure & no 6% growth etc...
 
During the long wait for its arrival, SA’s telecommunications landscape had undergone some fundamental regulatory changes to help the country compete in the global economy and close the gap on more developed nations, she said.
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It's funny cause I can't seem to think of any.
 
If they do offer at competitive rates vs first world countries it will be a historic event cause i've not seen many companies come in and start selling things that a reasonable price when competitors are selling at huge profit margins, usually its just a bit cheaper :(
 
I think it will make a difference, there are alot of different ISP's virtually charging the same because they need to pay the same provider... Telkom.

The four cellular networks, Cell C, Vodacom, MTN and Virgin Mobile all pay the same provider for their interconnection/landline connection. These sectors can have as many companies inside to compete not much will happen.

Neotel is the first to compete against Telkom without having to use any of their services to operate. Neotel will want to get the most business away from Telkom and we all know at this point they can offer much better service with all the new equipment they have.
 
MrG said:
I think it will make a difference, there are alot of different ISP's virtually charging the same because they need to pay the same provider... Telkom.

The four cellular networks, Cell C, Vodacom, MTN and Virgin Mobile all pay the same provider for their interconnection/landline connection. These sectors can have as many companies inside to compete not much will happen.

Neotel is the first to compete against Telkom without having to use any of their services to operate. Neotel will want to get the most business away from Telkom and we all know at this point they can offer much better service with all the new equipment they have.
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I thought the cellular providers were now allowed to self provide their interconnection in terms of VANS licenses they hold?
 
MrG said:
I think it will make a difference, there are alot of different ISP's virtually charging the same because they need to pay the same provider... Telkom.
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Except that in reality there are very few real ISPs that have physical links used to provide bandwidth for their customers, most of these ISPs are simply retail resellers of SAIX wholesale bandwidth & have no physical links of their own to speak of.

IOW the reseller ISPs basically charge the same bcos they are reselling Telkodemonopolies' rigid|frigid SAIX wholesale bandwidth - certainly when it comes to ADSL: not much will change with resold ADSL access until we have Local Loop Unbundling [where NOTel &| ADSL ISPs have access to DSLAMs & can route international traffic via NOTel instead of SAIX].

However Internet Solutions and Verizon Business and their collective ADSL customers could benefit bcos the routing of international traffic via NOTel could be done using the IPConnect model...
MrG said:
The four cellular networks, Cell C, Vodacom, MTN and Virgin Mobile all pay the same provider for their interconnection/landline connection. These sectors can have as many companies inside to compete not much will happen.
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As with IS & Verizon Business, Vodacom & MTN & CellC [not Virgin Mobile] could also get their international connectivity via NOTel instead of relying on SAIX.
MrG said:
Neotel is the first to compete against Telkom without having to use any of their services to operate. Neotel will want to get the most business away from Telkom and we all know at this point they can offer much better service with all the new equipment they have.
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LOL, where do you think NOTel got its 0800 number from? - methinks from Telkodemonopolies...
jontyB said:
I thought the cellular providers were now allowed to self provide their interconnection in terms of VANS licenses they hold?
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Except that none of Vodacom & MTN & CellC are shareholders in SAT-3/WASC/SAFE, while they can all self-provide locally [put in their own national fibre links etc], they still have to get their international connectivity from Telkodemonopolies' SAIX and now NOTel is also an option...
 
SA was fortunate

"SA was fortunate to have found foreign players that were passionate about investing in SA, and passionate about helping the country to overcome its social challenges, Matsepe-Casaburri said."

You think...? After the governments protectionist attitude towards Telkom and meddling in the telecoms arena it’s a miracle anyone was still interested in investing here…..:mad:
 
During the long wait for its arrival, SA’s telecommunications landscape had undergone some fundamental regulatory changes to help the country compete in the global economy and close the gap on more developed nations, she said.
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We first have to close the gap to 3rd world countries like Ethiopia and Somalia.
 
With Tata and VSNL among the stakeholders, SA was fortunate to have found foreign players that were passionate about investing in SA, and passionate about helping the country to overcome its social challenges, Matsepe-Casaburri said.
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I never realised government was a social challenge.
 
"They" first have to help themselves before/if they would even think of helping the cash cow aka. the public
 
Oh really?

During the long wait for its arrival, SA’s telecommunications landscape had undergone some fundamental regulatory changes to help the country compete in the global economy and close the gap on more developed nations, she said.
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If this was really the case, why is it that all the 'fundamental regulatory changes' smack of last-hour tactics? We were expecting the SNO 3 or 4 years ago - why wait till now to introduce new legislation (i.e. ECA) to provide a new regulatory framework except to protect the exploitation of the South African consumer? I'm pleased that changes are starting to take place, but now is not the time to rest, but rather to roll-up our sleeves even further and jump right in until we are in fact on par with developed nations in fact and not just in wishful thinking.

I wonder how much further behind the rest of the world South Africa would be at this stage if President Mbeki didn't highlight high telecoms costs in this country last year. I say it's time the President stoked another fire under the collective behinds of the policy-makers and implementers at the DoC to keep the ball rolling in the right direction (ie. for the consumers and the economy as a whole).
 
bwana v.17 said:
I never realised government was a social challenge.
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I suspect that her Poisonous Ivyness was euphemistically trying to blame 'the old regime' for the social challenges that have in reality been exacerbated by the current gravy-train regime where all the gravy-trainers "look like her" Poisonous Ivyness & have no interest in bettering anyone's lives other than their own - basically screw the voters until the next round of lies around election-time...:rolleyes:
 
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