IT ripoffs - hardware sales houses

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Necuno

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I wonder if ever it will change that one can get a hardware piece from a wholesaler at R100, and then you get the same thing for R900 in certian IT shops...

quite tiring seeing the add like gamer computer and it has like 256ram, 6600 geforce... or office pc with 128mb

and then of course it get sold for 3x -10x the normal amount to public. what would be nice is death to all after the wholesalers and the wholesalers sells directly to public !

wonder if it would even make a change of the reall pricelists they get from the wholesalers get published in the papers and for once the public actually does something about getting ripped off - i mean i WOULD never buy from someone past the wholesalers just rediculess pricing.

~my thought for day~
 
There are a few SA websites that are making an effort to provide good, affordable pricing. It is unfortunate that there are so many places making blatant ripoffs, though.
 
I think its the wholesalers that are ripping everyone off...

If you take a look at Retail prices of Computer goods in the US, they are cheaper than our Wholesale prices in SA.


So that means that our wholesalers are obviously buying from US wholesalers, in bulk.. but still charge more than US Retail....


Its crazy!!
 
i am a reseller. my markup on hardware / software is 20%. i do not own a shop but only quote when required. igree that the wholesalers are the big ripoffs. 'cause they do not support the product they sell we the reseller do and when it comes to warrantee they will find any way not to honour it.
just like any industry (the building industry to name 1) there are shady pc shops around ... what makes 1 pc shop different from another 'pc shop' - lets ask the community - maybe we all can learn how to have satisfied customers that keep on coming back for more - after all that is what we want.
there are a few wholesalers that bug me big time, they sell to resellers but also sell to end user, competing with the very resellers they are supplying. like telscum
 
It all started...

Many years back when every tom **** and harry who had a home PC wanted to make 5 bob on a pc and sold to all his family and friends... eish - 1-5% markup was fine for him. But try running a business like that...

So the markup was set and everyone had to follow suit or lose business. I see Game still sell CD writers for R400. What a ripoff... or not...

While the clothing, food and furniture industries (essentials) milk us, it is considered a sin to make a profit on technology - what an arse about face world we live in.

Japan, Korea, China, Singapore, Malaysia, etc. are making some of the buck we spend, but methinks it's the Rectrons, Musteks, Dells, HPs that are really making the money.
 
I dont mind people selling for ripoffs at the end of the day selling is putting a profit on. Its the buyers fault not seller.

What i do dislike is people selling false products :
!GAMING PC!
P4 celeron 2.8
256MB RAM
...


and selling for R3000 or something.. this makes the consumer think that guys that are selling gaming PC's for R7K - R10K are ripoffs..
 
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Yes, the wholesalers are the ones cashing in bigtime. I have about a 7 to 13% markup on my products, I have low overhead but still need to to cover petrol and such costs and make a small profit...
 
Onepostwonder said:
Many years back when every tom **** and harry who had a home PC wanted to make 5 bob on a pc and sold to all his family and friends... eish - 1-5% markup was fine for him. But try running a business like that...

So the markup was set and everyone had to follow suit or lose business. I see Game still sell CD writers for R400. What a ripoff... or not...

While the clothing, food and furniture industries (essentials) milk us, it is considered a sin to make a profit on technology - what an arse about face world we live in.

Japan, Korea, China, Singapore, Malaysia, etc. are making some of the buck we spend, but methinks it's the Rectrons, Musteks, Dells, HPs that are really making the money.
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Onepostwonder you right. It is all the suppliers making the money. But talking about clothing I worked for Edgars when I just came out of the army and it was my job to work out the profit and loss of a shop. On certain items there was a markup of up to 600%, and it is quite sad when you see what people spend on clothing and jewellery and you will not hear anyone question you about the price. Go and see what profit Edgars and other clothing chains declare at year end on their financials, I mean their big boss earned R 111 million last year. I wonder if he will also have problem with the "ripoff" prices of computers.:-)
But when you have a computer shop or online store selling computers or computer equipment you will always be expensive. I think if we give everything away for free we will still be expensive.
 
It's tought o find a dealer that fulfills both requirments: Service and price.

If you have a tight budget you are at times forced to sacrifice service for price - thereby relying on the "fly-by-night" shops that seem to rip everyone off.:mad:
 
hennievr said:
Onepostwonder you right. It is all the suppliers making the money. But talking about clothing I worked for Edgars when I just came out of the army and it was my job to work out the profit and loss of a shop. On certain items there was a markup of up to 600%, and it is quite sad when you see what people spend on clothing and jewellery and you will not hear anyone question you about the price. Go and see what profit Edgars and other clothing chains declare at year end on their financials, I mean their big boss earned R 111 million last year. I wonder if he will also have problem with the "ripoff" prices of computers.:-)
But when you have a computer shop or online store selling computers or computer equipment you will always be expensive. I think if we give everything away for free we will still be expensive.
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its allot cheaper to design your own jewellery and have it made by some jewellers than getting it in the average jewellery shops.

this can obviously apply to any industry of to many ppl in the middle before it gets to the client ;)

some dvd's imported is like 50-60% cheaper than locally stocked from stores
with expidited shipping and tax included :eek:

my initial thought though was would it help if at all a wholesalers pricelist was published (be it PCs or clothing) for general public to see or then wolf out the wholesalers so their prices drop.

maybe some of RSA has been to softies to do something about overprised stuff to begin with or just thought that how it should be priced to start with.

~
 
Ryuji said:
its allot cheaper to design your own jewellery and have it made by some jewellers than getting it in the average jewellery shops.

this can obviously apply to any industry of to many ppl in the middle before it gets to the client ;)

some dvd's imported is like 50-60% cheaper than locally stocked from stores
with expidited shipping and tax included :eek:

my initial thought though was would it help if at all a wholesalers pricelist was published (be it PCs or clothing) for general public to see or then wolf out the wholesalers so their prices drop.

maybe some of RSA has been to softies to do something about overprised stuff to begin with or just thought that how it should be priced to start with.

~
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I think what you mean is that the suppliers or better known as distributors make a "recommended retail price-list" available to the public, but that it must also be reasonable to both the reseller and consumer. That can work and one of my suppliers actually does that, but the problem is that not all of the suppliers have consensus on this and by right have their own reasons for it. The other problem is that the suppliers might come up with a percentage margin that is not suitable for everyone i.e. supplier come to a conclusion that recommended retail price will be at 20% above cost, but I do not have a high overhead and would like to make an impact on the market by price I come in at 10% above cost. That will put you back to problem that you have now.
I found that the big companies supplying to the corporate market will drop their equipment prices to just above cost price but then sign a service level agreement with the client and make up their money that way. You will also see the same type of thing in retail stores where you need to sign a 24 month contract with some or other ISP before you can buy the PC at the advertised price.
 
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