Neotel has landed, what now?

It sweetened its launch by signing up about a dozen clients, including competitor Telkom

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Pandey said the group was also using some bandwidth capacity from Telkom
Ermm what's happening here :confused:
 
heh :P
maybe the purchase is for now till end april (tho i doubt Telkom will give them such short terms.. unless they get something in return). Other thing is if neotel reall can under cut Telkom's wholesale by that much maybe they are gonna use them too, to get cheaper rates than what they currently getting. Good thing is this, Neotel will be in the position Telkom has been for years and they gonna be getting some payback.(ie having to buy from a wholesaler and competitor ;)) Hopefully the prices don;t stay high so that the new company can milk Telkom dry and indirectly us.
 
"The minister of communications, Ivy Matsepe-Casaburri, said this week that the process had left her "greyer" than she thought she would ever be."

This just indicates how long this process actually took!
I could have also grown a 1m long goatie and have hair down to my ass in the time it took you to get Neotel online.

"Ivy.... opens her mouth to change feet".
 
according to whispers on the wind neotel is already offering international bandwidth through the melkbosstrand landing station......
 
dominic: Perhaps they're buying it from Telkom and selling it at below cost until April next year when they get proper access.

Also I hope that the process to allow Neotel access to SAT-3 has already started in anticipation of April next year. They must not start handover discussions in April, those should be happening now. At midnight 1st April 2007 they should have all their equipment in the landing station ready to route!
 
What’s the bet that, that exclusive usage SAT3 contract of Telkom’s gets renegotiated come April 2007. Nothing I’ve read so far has convinced me that this won’t happen. There’s nothing I’ve seen that’s going to force Telkom to share, but hey, I could be wrong, what do I know! Then where do we as consumers stand?
 
What’s the bet that, that exclusive usage SAT3 contract of Telkom’s gets renegotiated come April 2007. Nothing I’ve read so far has convinced me that this won’t happen. There’s nothing I’ve seen that’s going to force Telkom to share, but hey, I could be wrong, what do I know! Then where do we as consumers stand?

http://www.mybroadband.co.za/nephp/?m=show&id=3746

Telkom said that there can be no extension to the rights that are already contained in the SAT-3 agreement.

;)
 
well it is after all in the hands of Ivy again :rolleyes:
 
What’s the bet that, that exclusive usage SAT3 contract of Telkom’s gets renegotiated come April 2007. Nothing I’ve read so far has convinced me that this won’t happen. There’s nothing I’ve seen that’s going to force Telkom to share, but hey, I could be wrong, what do I know! Then where do we as consumers stand?

I think our government has realized that they could not risk extending Telkom's exclusivity on SAT3. Not with the WC2006 steam-rolling upon us.

Bear in mind, that the Gov also holds indirect shares (Transnet/Eskom) in Neotel.
 
LabAnimal: Shot for the thread

But I have to admit, I am a doubting Thomas.

the agreement cannot be changed and as such no extension or diminishing of rights or changes in rights can be made other than what is already provided for and contained in the agreement

NO diminishing of rights other than what is provided for in the agreement. Thats the way I read it!
What is provided for? How much of the SAT3 line rights will they have to give, 5%; 95%? Technically giving up 1% of SAT3 is giving up exclusivity!

I don’t profess to be even the slightest bit knowledgeable on this subject, but from what I've seen, those Telkom folk are a sneaky bunch! Technicality/ Loophole are their middle names!!

I'm a doubting Thomas and I hope I am wrong!
 
It sweetened its launch by signing up about a dozen clients, including competitor Telkom, 50 percent stake subsidiary Vodacom, MTN, Cell C, Internet Solutions, MWeb and arivia.kom.
Does that mean cheaper data rates from Virgin? ;)
It sweetened its launch by signing up about a dozen clients, including competitor Telkom

...

Pandey said the group was also using some bandwidth capacity from Telkom
Ermm what's happening here :confused:
LOL, it also cranked me up a bit, but it's not really expected as both networks need access to the other's infrastructor to start up or survive. It's called payback and it's very sweet. Neotel has signed up a lot of the market to their network infrastructure. Telkom has to sign up for their services if it wants to give its customers access to the content on Neotel's network and believe me they do. Telkom will now at last be able to justify the price they ask their customers, but only if they are the isp. They will have to decrease the price they ask for access to their network if they don't want to lose even more customers to their competitor and pay even more over to them. There will at last be some middle ground in regards with their isp and wholesale prices.

But knowing Telkom they will still screw you just as much with the dependance on international bandwidth and will still charge the excessive access charges on lines. IS and UUNet didn't make much of a difference and neither will Neotel until they are able to provide all the services Telkom does. :( In the mean time we have to wait another six months to see what the next step will be. :rolleyes:
 
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