ICC Champions Trophy

[Highflyer_GP]

Any ideas on who's going to take it this year? My bet would be Sri Lanka or India.

India is on the verge of demolishing England at the moment. 98/4, 28 runs needed to win with 32 overs remaining.

[derekc]

Was punitng on pakistan but seen that paki has had two of their players sent home for doping, I'll go with....yes...u guessed it: South Africa. Hope we win.

[Jongi]

Was also gonna go with Pakistan till this morning's news. I'll out my money on SA now.

[Highflyer_GP]

SA 73/6 after 24 overs! Forken disgraceful :(

[Fiekus]

Since when have SA played spinners well? Since when have we done well on the sub-continent pitches?

No the winner will come from one of India, Pakistan or Sri Lanka. I also find it difficult to write off Australia. But I will have to go with Sri Lanka on this one. Muri will do very well!

SA can't even get past NZL and NZL haven't played since March or April I think :confused:

[Highflyer_GP]

100/8 wtf!!?? :eek:

[Fiekus]

9 down and almost over!! Kemp and Smith the only ones showing some backbone.
What "top order" we have to ask ourselves - 0, 0, 8, 8 and 1 (polly)?? and guys are backing SA on those pitches, ELOL

The writing should have on the wall when Smith and Pietersen took wickets. C'mon, these aren't real spinners of the ball?

edit: ok all over for 108!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Omac]

Sri Lanka .....ehm.... er .... New Zealand.

Silly bgger didn't even know who he was playing.

Once again, Flemming is laughing his head off at the monkey captaining SA.

edit: He's an embarrasment to SA and the Proteas. Not sure who's worse capt or coach.

[native]

pakistan looked good

Can we have a poll on who will win?

[krycor]

depends.. so far it looks like pitch is playing a big role in some stadiums.

[derekc]

those pitches are so crap. we still lost cos we suck big time. Pakistan won...feel good for them since they in so much **** with Inzi and the drugging issues.

[rendan]

Pitches arent great but ive actually enjoyed it where the skill of the batsmens defense is also important. I dont like those flat pitches where each team makes like 270/280 and the spinners and fast bowlers have no chance, which is usually the case in india and sometimes in sa too.. (aus v sa, 434 game)
Batsmen jst stand and play thru the line cos theres no movement at all..

Smith is a monkey, i dunno how he could blame the pitch. they both played on it and he chose to field first.

I also think sa is short a batsmen... Kemp at 5 and boucher at 6. Thats dodgy. Kemp isnt really a genuine batsmen that can bat thru the game and on these pitches you need genuine batsmen at 5... Im sorry to say it and i feel bad for andrew hall, but he has to be dropped, esp in this series. put back ab,then ull have 5 decent top order batsmen and kemp at 6. boucher 7 and pollock 8.....

[Highflyer_GP]

Windies beat the Aussies by 10 runs! Woohoo!

[hj2k_x]

Windies beat the Aussies by 10 runs! Woohoo!

Sweeeet! :)

[krycor]

Hahahahaha Rofl Lmao

[Fiekus]

Windies beat the Aussies by 10 runs! Woohoo!

It just made my day!!
Do any of you know what happened between Clarke and Gayle??

[Highflyer_GP]

Do any of you know what happened between Clarke and Gayle??
Not sure but Gayle is normally calm on the field. The aussies are well known for slurs and personal attacks so I wouldn't be surprised if that's what happened.

[native]

Happy for the windies after their last performance

[hj2k_x]

It just made my day!!
Do any of you know what happened between Clarke and Gayle??

Why, what happened? Did they fight?? Gayle could take him, easy...

[Fiekus]

Why, what happened? Did they fight?? Gayle could take him, easy...
LOL
Gayle actually pushed "pup" with the shoulder as well and the commentators were like "was that a friendly push??", yeah right!

[Fiekus]

Just checked out the commentary from Cricinfo...

from the 38th over:


Gayle had a long word in Clarke's ear after that over, he followed him all the way down the wicket and chirped in his ear!

38.2 Bradshaw to Gilchrist, no run, short and wide, Gilchrist crunches that to mid-off
oh-ho! Gayle still singing words of wisdom to Clarke from cover

ah! Now Gayle wanders past Clarke and says something else to him. Umpires not even intervening. Interesting....
38.4 Bradshaw to Clarke, 1 no ball, good length on the stumps, pushed into the covers...here goes Gayle again, picks the ball up and walks towards Clarke, clapping, smiling and chatting...even Clarke is forced to flash a boyish grin

Clarke's doing his best not to take notice of Gayle's antics.
38.6 Bradshaw to Clarke, no run, full outside off again, Clarke walks into his defense and pushes to mid-off, a good ball to end Bradshaw's spell.
More on the Gayle-Clarke show next over.

39.5 Gayle to Clarke, 1 run, keeps low in front of the stumps, worked to midwicket
umpire Koertzen has a chat with Clarke now about Gayle's banter

And we're into the home stretch, people. Two set batsmen out in the middle, an unstoppable Gayle with verbal diarrhea, and Samuels on to bowl now. Much fun.
40.1 Samuels to Clarke, 1 run, short on middle and off, tucked off the pads to square leg
Now Mark Benson gets involved as Samuels too chirps in with words to Clarke. "Settle down, boys..." Sarwan gets involved as well.

41.4 Gayle to Clarke, OUT, gone! Spins into him from outside off stump, Clarke leans back and runs that towards to Hinds at gully, who picks it up and fires in a good throw to Gayle, Gilchrist is stuck somewhere down the pitch and cant get back in time, Gayle takes the throw and whips off the bails, Gilchrist has to go and boy does Gayle love this! He's whooping it up out there like a school kid after his final examinations! Hah, he says to Clarke!
AC Gilchrist run out 92 (189m 120b 11x4 0x6) SR: 76.66
41.5 Gayle to Clarke, 4 runs, tossed up outside off, pushed back to Gayle who loses his cool and throws it back but its too high and goes away for overthrows, stupid, stupid move that from him


you gotta love it!! And what about the hat-trick...

47.5 Taylor to Hussey, OUT, cleaned him up! Fullish delivery, Hussey has an ambitious and ugly swipe across the line - frustration, you'd have to say - misses it all ends up and the ball hits off stump, crucial strike from Taylor, thats the big one West Indies wanted, crowd erupts!
MEK Hussey b Taylor 13 (30m 16b 1x4 0x6) SR: 81.25

Brett Lee walks in
47.6 Taylor to Lee, OUT, and he's gone first ball! Taylor's a star tonight under the starry skies of Mumbai! Fires in one on a good length on off stump that nips in and catches Lee falling forward, gets rapped in front of middle and leg, every West Indian goes up in appeal, all eyes on Koertzen who takes his time and then ever so slowly raises that left arm...Taylor on fire, Lee departs first ball

Okay, take a deep breath. 16 to win. Two wickets left. West Indies in a huddle. Taylor on a hat-trick. No West Indian has ever taken on in ODI cricket.
49.1 Taylor to Hogg, OUT, and he gets it, can you believe it?!? History is made at the Brabourne Stadium! Wow, wow, wow! Taylor will never be forgotten here in Mumbai! A full, fast delivery on the stumps, Hogg just walks across, looking to work that around the corner but the man makes zero contact and the ball castles into middle stump, he's gone and West Indies are one away from victory
GB Hogg b Taylor 10 (20m 11b 1x4 0x6) SR: 90.90

:cool:

[derekc]

Taylor Hat Trick...awesome stuff. Good for the West Indians.

[Jongi]

Was a good match that one

[native]

Proteas must win these one (http://www.iccchampionstrophy.indya.com/news/cricket/2006/october/oct/news231006e.htm)

10H45 Start time

[Omac]

"I never look at the pitch before a match because it does not matter what it looks like. I just take the ball and bowl on it," the star seamer said on Monday.

Man I love this guy. No excuses.


"Both teams have to play on the same pitch, so what does it matter what it looks like?" he said.

Yup!


"I think the true colours of the senior players will come through in this match. Victory is non-negotiable and they will have to make a big contribution for us to win."

and again!


edit: anybody got the team for today?

[native]

8th over

30/2

[derekc]

31/3....so sad.

[stormer208]

Sri Lanka .....ehm.... er .... New Zealand.

Silly bgger didn't even know who he was playing.

Once again, Flemming is laughing his head off at the monkey captaining SA.

edit: He's an embarrasment to SA and the Proteas. Not sure who's worse capt or coach.

I don't think you know what you are talking about. I think you should stop posting rubbish before you go to far.

[Omac]

I don't think you know what you are talking about. I think you should stop posting rubbish before you go to far.

Yeah bright boy!! You're not worth arguing with!

edit: comments withdrawn!

[nivek]

bring back Jennings :(

[Omac]

bring back Jennings :(

Yup!!


82/3 24 overs

[Omac]

128/4 36 overs

[Omac]

South Africa are 152 for 5 after 40.5 overs


Ah crp! It seems to be going pear shaped again!

[stormer208]

bring back Jennings :(

No argument there bro

[Omac]

Yeah bright boy!! You're not worth arguing with!


Withdrawn!

[native]

/me thinks Bob Woolmer should be brought back

[native]

now I love the South Africa,

just for the two overs

[Omac]

and install Bouch as capt.

[Highflyer_GP]

We could have got 250+ if Klusener was still in the team. But no chance of that happening as long as loud mouth Smith is playing :(

[Omac]

We could have got 250+ if Klusener was still in the team. But no chance of that happening as long as loud mouth Smith is playing :(

True words!

Not to mention him being regarded either as a joke or beneath contempt by the other international captains!

[lilDeath]

Score?

[Highflyer_GP]

SA: 219/9 after 50

SL: 6/0 after 2

[Omac]

219/9 50 overs

[lilDeath]

That score sux balls. So glad I didnt waste my time watching it.

[Omac]

Sri Lanka 13/1 6.4 overs
Jayasuriya lbw b Pollock 3

Bowling O M R W
Pollock 4 0 5 1

[krycor]

why has klusner disappeared sin 2004? I can never get a straight answer from people.

[Fiekus]

Sri Lanka 21/2 going at about 2 per over :eek:

[Omac]

why has klusner disappeared sin 2004? I can never get a straight answer from people.

Because full of self importance smith said he was a disruptive influence in the change room, amoungst other bullsht.

[krycor]

WU Tharanga c wicket-keeperBoucher b Ntini 11 34 1 0 32.35

STR 21/2

[Omac]

makes you want to dash home and watch!!

[krycor]

Another one!!!111!!!!!oneoneoneone

22/3

wicket!
wicket-keeper KC Sangakkara c wicket-keeperBoucher b Pollock 0 9 0 0 0.00

[Omac]

Geez. Polly must be on fire! Go boy!!

Bowling O M R W
Pollock 6 0 10 2

[krycor]

BOWLED!!!! Nel does his thing ;)

MS Atapattu gone..

MS Atapattu b Nel 2 5 0 0 40.00

SRI - 34/4 - 13.3 ov

[lilDeath]

cmon, slowpokes, score dammit!!! :D

[Omac]

104/6 31.2 overs

[krycor]

another one caught :P by gibbs
TM Dilshan c Gibbs b Nel 36 63 3 0 57.14

SRI- 114/7 -33.3 overs

[derekc]

we won!!! hopefully we can beat paki now!

[4nT1_8unNy]

Amazing thought we would just drop out without a win.

[Omac]

Amazing thought we would just drop out without a win.

So nice when things turn out be than you expected hey!:)

[Highflyer_GP]

For some reason I think that Pakistan might be really tough opposition when we face them. Bob Woolmer has completely turned that team around, they're such lucky bastards to have him :(

[stormer208]

They're really gonna miss Akhtar in their bowling attack. I don't think we are gonna lose against Pakistan. Not gonna be a high scoring match though.

[krycor]

well I'm hoping in one of the coming games the top order get it right and the middle to lower order are left to chance their arm ;) that will be entertaining

[derekc]

paki have a decent batting line up and our batting is relatively poor lately. 50/50 game I would say but I hope we win.

[Jongi]

Our top order hasn't fired for some time now.

[rendan]

I would back sa to win i think.. Pakis batting has never been that strong (too lose) and dont forget their missing ahktar, and even more importantly mohamed asif. In my opinion hes the best young bowler the world has seen for a long time now. Look what he did to india, england, and sri lanka...And on flat pitches too..
Now this drug controversy has basically ruined his extremely promising career.... I hope woolmer gets pissed off in pakistan and comes to SA..:D i mean pakistan are the most corrupt and politically based team and nation int the world.... makes you think how good they would be without all this politics..But woolmer doesnt like smith either, so i doubt that would happen

[Highflyer_GP]

But woolmer doesnt like smith either, so i doubt that would happen
Do we blame him :mad: Smith single-handedly got rid of our biggest match winner in the guise of Klusener. For that reason I'll never like him as long as he's captain. IMO Kallis/Pollock are much better suited to the captaincy - they don't blow off their mouth before the game even starts.

Regarding todays game, I'd like the Windies to win. Would be nice to see them and India go through.

[stormer208]

Do we blame him :mad: Smith single-handedly got rid of our biggest match winner in the guise of Klusener. For that reason I'll never like him as long as he's captain. IMO Kallis/Pollock are much better suited to the captaincy - they don't blow off their mouth before the game even starts.

Regarding todays game, I'd like the Windies to win. Would be nice to see them and India go through.

Well he made a mistake so what? You also make mistakes!!!!
How would you feel if somebody keep throwing your mistakes back in your face? Think about it. Smith also have feelings. Just by the way we have a better match winner in Justin Kemp! Lance has lost his touch.

[Highflyer_GP]

Well he made a mistake so what? You also make mistakes!!!!
How would you feel if somebody keep throwing your mistakes back in your face? Think about it. Smith also have feelings. Just by the way we have a better match winner in Justin Kemp! Lance has lost his touch.

Yeah but I'm not captain of the national team :p And if it was a mistake, he's done nothing to rectify it yet. He also has a tendency to mouth off before the start of a game, which leaves everybody hiding in shame if we lose.

Kemp is good on his day, but Lance had the ability to bring us back from the dead. 60 to win, 30 balls and 2 wickets left, he's done in time and time again. Kemp hasn't contributed much in terms of being a match winner in the champions trophy so far.

[Jongi]

I'm pretty sure I remember Kemp taking us to victory a number of times in the past. IMO he is filling the Klusener role just as well.

[Datura]

Lovely start. Wicket wide Wicket. Brilliant! ~~Shakes head~~

[rendan]

I don't care what Kemp has done (which hasnt been all that much by the way), its not even 1% of what Klusener has achieved...Klusener may not be what he was in 1999, and maybe never will be... but i dont think we can even start to compare the performance of the 2.. and if u ask me kluseners career was cut way too short because of a big ego belonging to a small boy

2 wickets in the first over :( they dont even need akhtar and asif...)

[nivek]

Either way, theres space in the team for Klusener, just take out Smith and Gibbs, both worthless in the team..

So they've won a few matches for us when they've scored, they've lost alot more matches for us when they've gone for single digits :/

[Luke7777]

Definition of a BrainFart :
Green pitch, lotsa bounce and movement, you have a full seam attack....
and you decide to BAT

Even if we win this 1, that's just idiotic :(

[Highflyer_GP]

Great 60/5 after 16 overs. Yeah Smith really has control over this team :/

Yesterday he was going on about the pitch being bouncy and similar to the one's back home which will give us an advantage. Once again he's managed to blow his mouth before the game even starts.

[rendan]

lol !!. smith does talk a bit much before the games, but ppl give them a chance. I think we can win definitely win this game if we get to 200 or 220...
Under lights the ball win do even more than it is now and we have the bowlers required. And dont forget how lose the Pakistanis are. We have makaya, nel, polly and even langaveldt.... it aint over yet.. give them a chance.. jst as long as the batsmen can get us to 200 itll be okay i think

[Highflyer_GP]

lol !!. smith does talk a bit much before the games, but ppl give them a chance. I think we can win definitely win this game if we get to 200 or 220...
Under lights the ball win do even more than it is now and we have the bowlers required. And dont forget how lose the Pakistanis are. We have makaya, nel, polly and even langaveldt.... it aint over yet.. give them a chance.. jst as long as the batsmen can get us to 200 itll be okay i think

There's no denying that we can defend 200/220. I have no beef with the rest of the team, just with Smith. Let's hope that Kemp, Boucher and Polly get us to 200+.

[rendan]

lol.. I don't like smith either... in fact i hate him with a passion. If every1 can remember, they made him captain after the 2003 world cup when he didnt even make it into the squad in the first place.. at 22, a person that cant even make the team, gets made captain.. I wasn't all that pleased about that..
And its cos of him that klusener disappeared after the 2003 world cup, when if ppl can remember he didnt do all that bad.

But i have to admit hes done well so far.. hes improved his batting as well..
And hes got one of the hottest chicks in sa... even all over the world
Bastard! :D a **** head with a chick like that///////////

[Jongi]

I don't think there are many South Africans that are pro Smith

[nivek]

we need better selectors too, why does gibbs keep getting picked when he over and over fails to perform?

smith too, if he wasnt captain he shouldve been dropped ages ago :/

[rendan]

Nah gibbs is okay.. he going thru a bit of a lean patch.. only recently he won us the greatest match ever against the Aussies.. Smith isn't a bad batsmen nowadays either.
I think its just his attitude and arrogance that really pisses of many ppl. I really liked Hansie, even if he did throw away a couple of matches :D :D...he never talked big like smith, he was generally likable and made us win like we will never win again.. Imagine he didnt match fix, we woulda been the best team in the world right now, as we were back then.. :(

go boys!.. don't wanna jinx it but maybe if kemp and boucher can carry on and polly comes in with some meaty blows at the end, we'll get 220 to 240 :)

119/5

[Luke7777]

Gibbs and Kempie will do great in the Windies....back to the "roots" :D

[Jongi]

Gibbs. Lean patch. Except for the 438 game he has been dire for some time.

[Highflyer_GP]

Gibbs and Kempie will do great in the Windies....back to the "roots" :D

haha :D

[Luke7777]

Gibbs. Lean patch. Except for the 438 game he has been dire for some time.That's what I liked and admired about Gary Kirsten. Whenever he started his lean patch, he dropped from the side, come back 6 weeks later and started of with a 100 most of the times

[Jongi]

Gibbs' record since the start of last year



25 4 caught 2 W 1st ODI v NZ in SA 2005/06 at Bloemfontein [2285]
33 3 lbw 1 W 2nd ODI v NZ in SA 2005/06 at Cape Town (d/n) [2288]
81 3 caught 2 W 3rd ODI v NZ in SA 2005/06 at Port Elizabeth [2289]
16 4 caught 2 W VB Series 2 v Aus in Aus 2005/06 at Brisbane (d/n) [2314]
7 4 run out 2 L VB Series 3 v SL in Aus 2005/06 at Brisbane (d/n) [2315]
39 4 lbw 2 L VB Series 4 v Aus in Aus 2005/06 at Melbourne (DS) (d/n) [2316]
68 5 bowled 1 W VB Series 6 v SL in Aus 2005/06 at Adelaide (d/n) [2318]
4 4 bowled 2 W VB Series 9 v SL in Aus 2005/06 at Perth (d/n) [2321]
33 4 bowled 2 L VB Series 10 v Aus in Aus 2005/06 at Melbourne (DS) (d/n) [2322]
46 3 caught wk 2 L VB Series 11 v Aus in Aus 2005/06 at Sydney (d/n) [2323]
0 3 caught 2 L VB Series 12 v SL in Aus 2005/06 at Hobart [2325]
0 3 run out 2 W 1st ODI v Aus in SA 2005/06 at Centurion [2341]
66 3 caught 1 W 2nd ODI v Aus in SA 2005/06 at Cape Town (d/n) [2345]
16 3 run out 2 L 3rd ODI v Aus in SA 2005/06 at Port Elizabeth [2347]
1 3 caught wk 1 L 4th ODI v Aus in SA 2005/06 at Durban (d/n) [2348]
175 3 caught 2 W 5th ODI v Aus in SA 2005/06 at Johannesburg [2349]
2 3 caught 2 W 1st ODI v Zim in SA 2006/07 at Bloemfontein (d/n) [2415]
0 3 bowled 2 L ICC CT 8 v NZ in Ind 2006/07 at Mumbai (BS) (d/n) [2430]
16 3 caught wk 1 W ICC CT 13 v SL in Ind 2006/07 at Ahmedabad (d/n) [2435]

Hope that works

[ubberfunk]

Smitty must go,he has had his time,Rule of thumb...never make a opener a cpt of your team,When he under performs which in this case is constant the selectors and coach feel like noobs.

try variations and different combinations with the first 4 batsman,In this case all four of our batsman usually under perform.

we also running short of world class bowlers,atm we have polly and ntini.....please dont tell me Nel...bah usless!When polly and ntini go then we are truly screwed!

[Jongi]

I think Dale Steyn is going to be a very good bowler. They need to give him a chance.

[Luke7777]

Would love to see AB and Loots Bosman opening in the ODIs. Play Smith at 5 if you have to

[ubberfunk]

Would love to see AB and Loots Bosman opening in the ODIs. Play Smith at 5 if you have to

no smitty must GO all together,he is a waste in the team.As before he was selected as the cpt becos of his confidence and the selectors saw that.He is now wasting a valible posistion in the team and has turned into a cocky SOB.

Bouch should be skipper,and yes AB and boosman should be primed for opening,The first couple of bastmen in the opening overs are/is vital to the rest of the teams confidence.If they fail then so much relies on the middle order which very unfair imho.

[Jongi]

Lovely 17-3

[Luke7777]

21/5 See....THAT's why he decided to bat first ;)

[Omac]

I don't think there are many South Africans that are pro Smith

Nah! He's all mouth and no brain!! Give me Boucher any day!!

[Highflyer_GP]

ROFL @ Pakistans score 42/7

[rendan]

u c, whoever said they shoulda bat first was wrong... the ball does way more under lights.. and theres more moisture with dew and the ball comes on faster... if theres a flat pitch its a different story cos the ball comes on better to the bat and its easier to score, but on a pitch like this....

Now the one thing i hope smith does, is jst keep bowling pollock and ntini for atleast 8 overs each....finish it and get it over with

[ubberfunk]

lol awsome!!!

wait wait it must be the wicket and there batsmen need to adapt!:o

[Highflyer_GP]

Yeah I'm not in favour of batting 2nd. Apart from the movement, when you set the score first then it brings out the best in the bowlers and fielders because they know what they're defending.

[ubberfunk]

21/5 See....THAT's why he decided to bat first ;)

lol buddy "he" never made the choice do bat first alone the coach and staff make that decision not that plonker smith!

good call coach

[Omac]

When in doubt, bat first. If there is no doubt, bat first. When the moon is in the seventh house, bat first. :cool:

[rendan]

Yeah I'm not in favour of batting 2nd. Apart from the movement, when you set the score first then it brings out the best in the bowlers and fielders because they know what they're defending.

Its all relative...Depends completely on your strengths..
Pakistan and sa have always good at defending totals because of their strong bowling, while india, westindies, srilanka etc. have a stronger batting side..

Australia ofcoarse have always been great at both, so they dont care......:o
Bastards!

[Highflyer_GP]

Australia ofcoarse have always been great at both, so they dont care......:o
Bastards!
Australia couldn't defends 434, nor could they chase 234 against the Windies :D I would say they have some weaknesses, one of which is that they're over-confident.

47/8 now! What's the lowest ODI total?

[Jongi]

Wow is about all I can say. I thought the commentators were taking the pi$$ when they suggested 150 as defendable score

[Jongi]

lol buddy "he" never made the choice do bat first alone the coach and staff make that decision not that plonker smith!

good call coach

Do you then blame the coach if the decision at the toss is a bad one?

[ubberfunk]

Australia couldn't defends 434, nor could they chase 234 against the Windies :D I would say they have some weaknesses, one of which is that they're over-confident.

47/8 now! What's the lowest ODI total?

holy poh i wish i was watching!!

Hey you guys have to admitt we were the best team in the 90's AUS never came close to us way back then.

[Omac]

... plonker smith!


lol :D


good call coach
:mad:

Nah. plonker coach too.

Pure luck, or the fact that after NZ, everyone told them they were doff. :p

[Turbo_Aspiration]

Lowest ODI Totals (http://www.cricmania.com/cricket/DB/total/user/us03/type/O/order/A)

[ubberfunk]

Do you then blame the coach if the decision at the toss is a bad one?

well its not the coach only,preperations are made from the whole coaching body and staff before the match begins.

its a combined decision so i would blame them all aswell as these boys arent playing school boy cricket remember that.

scenario:Head coach,batting coach,bowling coach and cpt meet up in the change rooms either or on the field and discuss what should be done.So they should be blamed becos they making the decisions as a whole.

saying that,comming from a cricket player myself i personally dont blame anyone besides myself if we are beat bad.Some games i loosed but played like a king that day....

[Jongi]

ubber as long as you are consistent that's all that matters

[Highflyer_GP]

And that's the game. 89 all out :cool:

[native]

England won by 3 wickets (with 9 balls remaining)

South African born Kevin Pietersen once again shinning for the English

[hj2k_x]

Aussies in the final already with an easy win over NZ yersterday...

SA just started against the Windies in the other semi. Batting first...

SA vs AUS should be something to see. Don't think SA have been to a major final yet!

[rendan]

I think this game will be MUCH harder than the one against pakistan. These guys have a bloody good batting line up and unless the ball does a bit at night, we need to get a high score, Atleast 250. The pitch seems fairly flat as well.....and tayor already got smith out

[ubberfunk]

score update?

[hj2k_x]

49/1 after 12. you at work? its on sabc3...

[rendan]

if u at work go to cricinfo. live updates..

Anyone know where we can get free streaming audio commentary from? I know bbc has golf but not sure abt cricket

[ubberfunk]

49/1 after 12. you at work? its on sabc3...

at work

[native]

if u at work go to cricinfo. live updates..

Anyone know where we can get free streaming audio commentary from? I know bbc has golf but not sure abt cricket

Not sure, but check Radio 2000 -- cant find in on antfarm:D

the http://iccchampionstrophy.indya.com/ also have score update, but not with commentary like the cricinfo one

[Omac]

South Africa 128/3 (30.2 ov) RR 4.21

[Omac]

South Africa 142/3 (33.2 ov)

[hj2k_x]

258/8 after 50.

[native]

258/8 after 50.

I could have loved it to be around the 275/280 mark,
IMO Gibbs and AB played well to steer the ship.

[Highflyer_GP]

Yeah I was also hoping for 275. Lets hope Polly and Ntini get some quick ones.

[Jongi]

That score looks to be lacking about 15 - 20 runs. But then given the conditions most teams batting 2nd have faced maybe it might just be enough.

[DWPTA]

WI is making mince meat from Pollock & Ntini

WI 29/0 (4.5)

[DWPTA]

Fark

WI 40/0 (5.4)

At this rate they will finish with 9 overs to spare

[rendan]

as i predicted, these guys can bat damn well. Unless we get a few wickets, were screwed, 260 is no where near enough considering they have sarwan and Lara to come who can steer them home while the others play around them. Gayle needs to go soon!! or its over... :(
This pitch is so different to the one against the pakis.....

48/0 (6.4 ov)

[DWPTA]

We desparetly need a few wickets.

76/0 (10.4)

[mancombseepgood]

Why, oh why does Smith elect to bat first with a ground record of wins in favor of the side that bowls first by FARRRRR...?

[rendan]

We need hansies captaincy to bring us back from this one (when hes not planning to lose that is :D :D)

Theyre gonna walk this unless we get a flurry of wickets (atleast 3 or 4 in the next 10 overs)

101/0 after 17.

[rendan]

Why, oh why does Smith elect to bat first with a ground record of wins in favor of the side that bowls first by FARRRRR...?

Cos its a good wicket and batting first is generally a good idea in that situation. Think the record for teams winning when batting second is cos of dew at night.
Its not such an issue in this tournament so don't blame smith for batting first. it makes no difference

[hj2k_x]

At last - a wicket! :p

[Highflyer_GP]

This match is lost, they need 16 from 56 balls. Smith made some shocking decisions in the field, Nel bowled a leg-side line and was allowed to finish his 10 overs, Polly wasn't recalled into the attack. Plus there were so many catches going to deep midwicket and gully but we never had fielders there.

[hj2k_x]

All over . WI win with 30 odd balls to spare.

SA misses out on ANOTHER final :(

[HaNsA]

its sad........really

[mancombseepgood]

Cos its a good wicket and batting first is generally a good idea in that situation. Think the record for teams winning when batting second is cos of dew at night.
Its not such an issue in this tournament so don't blame smith for batting first. it makes no difference

Yeah - sorry - just frustration getting the better of me ;)
As a consolation, I really did enjoy watching the Windies play like they did - absolutely awesome and potent with the ball and bat - they deserved to win... not because we didn't play our best either...

I really hope they can keep it up against Australia - I really believe this WI team can give the aussies a hiding of note.

Chris Gayle was something else... we can really learn something from him... bounderies without klapping the ball.

[mancombseepgood]

We need hansies captaincy to bring us back from this one (when hes not planning to lose that is :D :D)

Theyre gonna walk this unless we get a flurry of wickets (atleast 3 or 4 in the next 10 overs)

101/0 after 17.

I was thinking the same thing. I miss Hansie.

[krycor]

I think Kallis gave his wicket away in frustration.. that and we seemed cautious and the bottom batsman we usually depend on to give the final blow failed to deliver.

[dominic]

i think we could have got 50 more and gayle would have got there - just one of those days when a guy plays out of his skin

it felt like batting first they needed to feel out a par total - the variety of pitches in the tournament means you have no idea how it is really going to play

semi's is not a bad result

[rendan]

i think we could have got 50 more and gayle would have got there - just one of those days when a guy plays out of his skin

it felt like batting first they needed to feel out a par total - the variety of pitches in the tournament means you have no idea how it is really going to play

semi's is not a bad result

Ur right abt the pitch and the tournament. It was difficult to find out what a good score would be.
But that said, windies finally have a really good ODI team..Batting is up there with the strongest in the world. I mean you have baugh coming in at no.8 and samuels at 7... thats dangerous. Its jst their pace bowling thats a little weak, apart from taylor, they may get torn apart against the aussies ...Gilchrist :rolleyes:

[ubberfunk]

well boys n girls my overview

Smith must go as i have said many times before ill say it again..never make a opening batsman a cpt of a team,openers usually come and go and tend to loose form quite easily.

As for the pitch and batting first,there was absolutly nothing wrong about electing to bat first,That pitch was a PURE batting pitch was it not? (FLAT) i would of killed to bat on that pitch,any of you's see how the ball just simply last pace when bowling? or was i just seeing things?

only thing that went into WI favour imho was that they used what was left of the bowling side of the wicket and left us with a carpet to bowl on.

as for Gayles innings well theres nothing spectacular there,i personally dont like his play/batting and stance

seems to me that the WI's like the ICC and SA's worst enemy in any form of cup!!how many times have they done us in a world cup and any other tourny for that matter.

We were made to look like schools boys last night.

[rendan]

well boys n girls my overview

Smith must go as i have said many times before ill say it again..never make a opening batsman a cpt of a team,openers usually come and go and tend to loose form quite easily.

As for the pitch and batting first,there was absolutly nothing wrong about electing to bat first,That pitch was a PURE batting pitch was it not? (FLAT) i would of killed to bat on that pitch,any of you's see how the ball just simply last pace when bowling? or was i just seeing things?

only thing that went into WI favour imho was that they used what was left of the bowling side of the wicket and left us with a carpet to bowl on.

as for Gayles innings well theres nothing spectacular there,i personally dont like his play/batting and stance

seems to me that the WI's like the ICC and SA's worst enemy in any form of cup!!how many times have they done us in a world cup and any other tourny for that matter.

We were made to look like schools boys last night.

Gayle did play very well however i also don't think hes as good as every1 makes him out to be. His technique is not sound and on a decent wicket with movement against decent bowlers (Pollock, Mcgrath, etc.) he has always been found wanting. Again i reiterate, on a fair wicket with some form of help for bowlers, pollock will generally come out on top..
But gayle is definately a world class one day player, because the same can be said of guys like gibbs. No solid technique and on a pitch that helps bowlers like mcgrath, he too doesnt perform...

Kallis ftw! Only real batsmen we have!

[ubberfunk]

kallis is starting to worry me now aswell

altough he is a rock solid player,his form latley has somewhat dwindled.

imho the team we have now is not world class to likes of rhodes,zulu,gazzzer,donald....crap we had a world class outfit but that class has gone *puff* into thin air.

i look at out team now and wonder where we will be in 5 years or even the next world cup,We not that monster team people used to fear anymore.

[lilDeath]

I blame the *** coach and *** captain.

[Gothan]

kallis is starting to worry me now aswell

altough he is a rock solid player,his form latley has somewhat dwindled.

imho the team we have now is not world class to likes of rhodes,zulu,gazzzer,donald....crap we had a world class outfit but that class has gone *puff* into thin air.

i look at out team now and wonder where we will be in 5 years or even the next world cup,We not that monster team people used to fear anymore.

Ha!!

With Kallis you can only depend on one thing...and thats to drop the ball. He's too worried about sponsorships to care about a game.

I still feel they should make Boucher captain, that man has years of experience, and being the wicket keeper, he has an excellent vantage point, of the ball and the field

[Boodles]

Ok, the final is being played right now. And WI batting first, they got off to a flyer but have somwhat came crashing back to earth.

current score of 125/8 25 overs....

go aussie go.

[krycor]

haha omg, did they forget its a 50 ov game?

[hj2k_x]

138 all out after 30 overs! lol. Can see where this one's gonna end up...:(

[Highflyer_GP]

Why couldn't they fold against us :mad:

SA vs Aus would have been a way better final.

[hj2k_x]

Gilchrist out for 2 already...maybe a glimmer of hope...

[derekc]

Why couldn't they fold against us :mad:

SA vs Aus would have been a way better final.

our bowling has always been weak. We bowled on bowler favouring pitches against NZ, SL and Pak. Against a team on a flat pitch, we get murdered especially our batting was so weak.

[Highflyer_GP]

our bowling has always been weak. We bowled on bowler favouring pitches against NZ, SL and Pak. Against a team on a flat pitch, we get murdered especially our batting was so weak.

Fair point but I know for a fact that our bowling is better than the windies :D

They have Bradshaw and Taylor, and that's about it.

[derekc]

13/2

Looks like WI has a chance. I think WI bowling is getting better. Might not be better than ours but much better than a while ago. I think they have a decent chance of winning the WC next year seeing that they playing at home.

[Boodles]

I have lots of doubts about WI. They are a bunch of cowboys, i mean they play a raw style of cricket and because of this who nose what they will do from game to game.

Not so sure if WI will last the distance of a WC.

[Highflyer_GP]

True their bowling and fielding has improved alot. Their fielding in particular used to be shocking. Clive Lloyd seems to be making a big difference in their team.

[krycor]

Good News: Rain has stopped. Super sopper and manual labour on in fullswing. Bad News: The outfield looks like a swimming pool. News: We need minimum 10 more overs for a result tonight. At the end of it, say, even if Australia are still X runs short of win, a result will be announced. They won't continue the game tomorrow. But if we can't get in 10 overs, then it will continue tomorrow.

[hj2k_x]

:( Damn rain.

[hj2k_x]

Oz win by 8 wickets (D/L method) . :sick:

[krycor]

ugh another thing these ausies will flaunt. :(

[hj2k_x]

First time they've won it apparently...

[derekc]

Aus do have a very good team. WI flayed them in the first 5 overs but they handled the pressure well. Unlike our bowlers. Unsettle them and the game is ours. Be unsettled by our bowlers then it's over as well. WE tend to play this type of cricket lately.

Keen to Watch Ind vs SA in a few weeks time. anyone going to the Wanderers when they play the ODI series? 20/20 should be great as well.

[ubberfunk]

Why couldn't they fold against us :mad:

SA vs Aus would have been a way better final.

i agree,WI were a fluk i rekon.For a final with such a low score its a damn waste