Help, WOW noob

[DjStyles]

Hey guy's.

So I finally took the bait and went and bought WOW. Please excuse my noobness here, but what i need to know is this;

1. If I got the EU version, can i setup my account on www.worldofwarcraft.com, or do i have to do it on www.wow-europe.com ?

2. Are there any good links to find out which servers / realms are best for SA players?

Guy's again, please excuse my ignorance here, this is all very new to me and need to get my head around all this.

Hope you can help.

Thanks

[MrJones]

Well answer to question number 1 is wow-europe.com

and Question 2, I don't really know, try searching google for South African Guilds, but really, to me it doesn't make a difference, belonging to a guild is only really 5% of the game, and used to make finding groups to do quests and dungeons easier. But now, there is a new search tool for finding groups which does make it a lot easier.

[DjStyles]

Thanks MrJones.

I cant wait to play this game this evening

[Macguyver1]

I also just started WoW I tested all the servers and Shattered Hand had the best latency to S.A out of all of them so I started there.

I don't know what the ppl are like but the latency makes the game so good.
If its your first time to WoW here is my advice.

Play an easy class like Pally or Warrior or hunter.
Get an unshaped ADSL account or you won't enjoy the game.
Complete as many quests that you can, instead of killing monsters for EXP.

Any other questions let us know.

[DjStyles]

Thanks MacGuyver1,

Now I just got to get around the misses so i can get to playing this damn game.

[SonZeRo]

hi as im playing wow aswell i would like to give 1 tip.

dont play a night elf hunter. :)

to many of them on all servers.

[Macguyver1]

The most played classes are in this Order

1 Rougue
2 Pally
3 Shaman
4 Warrior
5 Hunter
6 Warlock
7 Mage
8 Druid
9 Priest

So hunter is definitely not the most played class, And there are going to be tons more Shaman and Pallys flying around when TBC launches.

[MrJones]

Frikkin rogues! Hate them

[TheYak]

I second that! Freakin' backstabbing *bad word*! Good thing I have my earth tremor totem to make it slightly more difficult for them to sneak up on me! :D

I tried playing a rogue once, but I wasn't enough of a b@stard. :D

[zippy]

I strongly suggest you start on a new realm. This is especially true for PvP servers. The problem with starting a character on older established realms are :

1. PvP is a nightmare. Opponants on your level are likely to be twinked alts of bored lvl 60's with nothing better to spend their gold on. Even when u get to lvl 60 and pull into a battle ground, your opponents will have gear that makes you cry. You get killed easily by a class which shouldnt be able to kill you that easy. Its because they have gear which takes months of raiding/pvp to get.

2. Difficult to find half decent groups for lower level instances. Not impossible, but can be a problem.

3. The economy is not normal. You will find you cant sell gear that you get that you dont/cant use, so end up vendoring it. Earning less money in the process. This makes the production professions like tailoring, blacksmithing and leatherworking a bottomless pit into which money goes in and never comes out.

However, if you joining a group of friends these problems can be overcome.

My own personal opinion: Unless you know the players, create a character on a new server, rather than go where there are South Africans just for the reason that there are South Africans. I'm in a guild where my wife and I are the only South Africans. We joinedd the server when it was 3 weeks old. Every instance from mid lvl 40's(Zul'Farrak was my last non-guild run), has been a guild run. That is because 90% of the guild where in my level range. I am always raiding or doing the smaller instances with the guild. I basically lvl'd from late 40's to lvl 60 with the guild. When I was on a server in a South African guild, I was 6 months behind them. Darned difficult to catch up, cause they cant wait for you. No right to expect them to either.

But that is my story.

As far as class/race etc. You just have to find the one that suits you. If you roll Alliance, don't roll human, unless its a warrior and all you want to do is tank end-game(extra sword and mace skill is good here). Human racials are not that great for pvp. For pvp, any other race/class combo. For pvp, gnome or night elf. Maybe dwarf. My view anyway.

[z3r0]

I strongly suggest you start on a new realm. This is especially true for PvP servers. The problem with starting a character on older established realms are :

1. PvP is a nightmare. Opponants on your level are likely to be twinked alts of bored lvl 60's with nothing better to spend their gold on. Even when u get to lvl 60 and pull into a battle ground, your opponents will have gear that makes you cry. You get killed easily by a class which shouldnt be able to kill you that easy. Its because they have gear which takes months of raiding/pvp to get.

2. Difficult to find half decent groups for lower level instances. Not impossible, but can be a problem.

3. The economy is not normal. You will find you cant sell gear that you get that you dont/cant use, so end up vendoring it. Earning less money in the process. This makes the production professions like tailoring, blacksmithing and leatherworking a bottomless pit into which money goes in and never comes out.

However, if you joining a group of friends these problems can be overcome.

My own personal opinion: Unless you know the players, create a character on a new server, rather than go where there are South Africans just for the reason that there are South Africans. I'm in a guild where my wife and I are the only South Africans. We joinedd the server when it was 3 weeks old. Every instance from mid lvl 40's(Zul'Farrak was my last non-guild run), has been a guild run. That is because 90% of the guild where in my level range. I am always raiding or doing the smaller instances with the guild. I basically lvl'd from late 40's to lvl 60 with the guild. When I was on a server in a South African guild, I was 6 months behind them. Darned difficult to catch up, cause they cant wait for you. No right to expect them to either.

But that is my story.

As far as class/race etc. You just have to find the one that suits you. If you roll Alliance, don't roll human, unless its a warrior and all you want to do is tank end-game(extra sword and mace skill is good here). Human racials are not that great for pvp. For pvp, any other race/class combo. For pvp, gnome or night elf. Maybe dwarf. My view anyway.


very true

[Deviant]

Well answer to question number 1 is wow-europe.com

and Question 2, I don't really know, try searching google for South African Guilds, but really, to me it doesn't make a difference, belonging to a guild is only really 5% of the game, and used to make finding groups to do quests and dungeons easier. But now, there is a new search tool for finding groups which does make it a lot easier.

That new search tool sucks imo - the old LFG channel worked a whole let better.

[zippy]

That new search tool sucks imo - the old LFG channel worked a whole let better.

Unfortunatly it was spammed to death. Players begged blizzard to get rid of it. Now....

BTW, most, if not all, realms have created their own LFG and Lookingforgroup channels.

[Zulash]

Mages pwn^^

[dakeyras]

I also have to add a question to the mix ;)

I am also now re-trying WoW. Tried it a few months ago and didnt really get into it. So much stuff to learn, and the available learning resources is so much and disorganised that I could not find an answer for 75% of my questions. I today picked up a copy of burning crusade, I hope my fellow saffers will answer a few of them.

1. What class should I create if I want a long term char? A Class that will always be able to find a group to do things with? I always enjoy playing rogues, but if the game is awash with them, it might not be the best choice in the long run

2. What professions should I choose? I need something to help me cash!!! Here I am looking for something for the short and long term.

Thanks in advance.

[Zulash]

1. Choose a car which u enjoy or its a complete waste of time... then befriend some imba players and u will eventually get into one of the top guilds on the server

2. Hebalism = CASH GALORE... and so does skinning/mining

[vrapt0r]

Hi what server are u on and what faction cause I am in a SA horde guild thats just started we are mostly level 40-50 and we need more people ?

server = darkspear
name = Horde Brotherhood

If u r interested visit hordebrotherhood.terapad.com and speak in the forum

:)

[vrapt0r]

Choose a priest and specialize in healing cause there are a shortage of priests

Prists are actually allways needed in a group for awesome healing

Or be a druid or paladin they can take damage and heal

:)

[Blackhand]

Hope this helps dakeyras:

1. There is no class that isn't absolutely essential. WoW focuses on group play far more than solo play, although 1-60 and now 60-70 its not so apparent. However endgame which is where most of your game time will be spent (70) grouping is the way forward for both PvP and PvE. A good group/raid is one with classes that compliment each other and a 25 man raid will want a good balance of all classes. Every class has a role. However! If your looking for a class that will have an easy time finding "pugs" (groups formed on the fly instead of through guilds) then priest/druid is the best choice. But I recommend that you choose the class you enjoy playing the most, even if its the most overpopulated class, you will eventually find a guild and groups. If you don't, you'll end up just "rerolling" the class you wanted to in the first place.

2. Professions.... Well, professions aren't a requirement for success, heck I was 60 for months without having any. I started PvP'ing alot so I took engineering for grenades ( 3 sec stun ) and discombobulator rays and mining to supply it. For cash though, I'd still say mining and herbalism, collecting professions. Theres always people who'd rather just save some time and buy materials off the auction house than collect it themselves.

[DjStyles]

LOL! Forgot all about this thread (to busy palying WOW).

[z3r0]

I also have to add a question to the mix ;)

I am also now re-trying WoW. Tried it a few months ago and didnt really get into it. So much stuff to learn, and the available learning resources is so much and disorganised that I could not find an answer for 75% of my questions. I today picked up a copy of burning crusade, I hope my fellow saffers will answer a few of them.

1. What class should I create if I want a long term char? A Class that will always be able to find a group to do things with? I always enjoy playing rogues, but if the game is awash with them, it might not be the best choice in the long run

2. What professions should I choose? I need something to help me cash!!! Here I am looking for something for the short and long term.

Thanks in advance.

Pallies, priests u will always find a grp....especially horde side
warlock,hunter they are the **** at the moment in PVE/PVP but they might get nerfed if enough ppl complain...

skinning/herbalism/mining very easy while u lvlling cause all u have to do is watch the yellow dots on the screen:)

enchanting has the potential to make loads of money but it is a huge outlay to get to high lvls...

my 5 cents...

[Crewsayder]

As far as professions - money at lower levels are pretty hard to come by so if you starting out new and dont have 60 friends who can spot you 5g or so then i would recomend Tailoring/enchanting - tailoring you get most of your mats off the mobs youkill
enchanting you get mats from the Tailoring greens you end up making - if you choose to make a cloth class like a mage or priest you can have gear that will assist you in you quest for levels - and enchanting you can buff yourself with decent chants togive you that much more of an edge in dps or in healing.

Tailoring you can very quickly make bags wich is a bonus more bags means more things to sell or collect for Trade skills

Learn to link quests- WoW inevitably has a progression of quests those who have rerolled a million times can tell you that if you do this then you get access to that - take some time to explore a zone opening up regions gives you a chance to familieize yourself with future questing areas - and find more quests.

I know Alliance backwards so if you choose that faction PM ill give you a head start in some linking quests that will speed your leveling up quite a bit

[DjStyles]

Hey Crewsayder,

Would love to get some of those tips you have for alliance. Just statrted playing a week ago and i'm totally hooked.

[ClockworkOrange]

The most played classes are in this Order

1 Rougue
2 Pally
3 Shaman
4 Warrior
5 Hunter
6 Warlock
7 Mage
8 Druid
9 Priest

So hunter is definitely not the most played class, And there are going to be tons more Shaman and Pallys flying around when TBC launches.

I am not sure where you're getting your stats. According to warcraftrealms.com website, if you look at each and every server, Hunters and Warriors outnumber every other class by far, with Rogues being a close third and then the rest.

As to which class to roll now - healing classes always in demand in groups/raids - holy priests/resto druids, and both have decent solo/grinding viability if properly specced. Hunters easy to level and very viable for solo as well as group play - pet as an extra tank and traps for crowd control. Mages - great DPS, good crowd control, valuable in PvP and PvE. Rogues also very good DPS, fairly easy to level, great in PvP.

Do not roll Warrior - very slow to gain levels, difficult to play solo, very gear dependent class, poor talent trees design. If you spec protection you can forget about soloing or PvP. I play warrior as my main and trust me given a choice I would not have rolled a warrior today.

I played Warrior, Rogue and Hunter up to 60, Druid up to 57, Priest up to level 45 now so I have an idea about abovementioned classes. Can't say anything about Paladins or Warlocks, not familiar with those.

Cheers

[dakeyras]

Thanks for all the advice. I have decided to go with a druid. I read up on the class a bit, and love the versatility that it seems to have going for it. And of course being able to shapeshift is also a big bonus to me ;)

I however find WoW so far very boring. Only level 8 at the moment (first played a rogue and priest to level 10), and bored out of my skull. The quests are all the same (kill x amount of creatures/collect x amount of items). Making money is rediculously hard. I dont buy a single thing from any vendors or weaponsmiths/armorsmiths and yet I never have enough money to buy my skills.

Someone please tell me it gets better...

[Surprise]

To be honest I can't play if I'm not in a guild. One of the main reasons I play WoW is because I enjoy the social interaction between the people in your guild and from other countries. It provides a great way to break the boredom of grinding.

What type of guild you may ask? A South African I would say. Raid guild preffered.

Nothing is more fun than talking about the cricket/rugby in guild chat. If you are interested in a Horde guild you can try <Prophecy> out. We are on Lightbringer(PvE) and since we are all still leveling you'll slot right in with us. We are a very casual guild trying to take all the positive things from ZA raiding guild and dropping the bad things like in-fighting and over-competitiveness. This is creating a very warm casual feeling to the guild which is a nice way too ease into the game.

So if you want a guild where you can level up with fellow countrymen without the hassles of belonging to one of the big raiding guilds drop your name in our forum.

http://forums.prophecy.co.za/f125/

[dakeyras]

Thanks Surprise, but the thought of starting over again makes me want to torture a puppy. I have managed to accumulate 20 silver today, and I dont want to lose all that money either. Was too hard to get ;)

Crewsader, if you could give me some tips on alliance I would love you lots for 5 dollah. I tried a Tauren Druid first, but.... For some reason I cant get into playing a slow cow ;) So I now have a night elf druid. Allready the same level as the tauren one, so definetaly easier.

[DjStyles]

Thanks Surprise, but the thought of starting over again makes me want to torture a puppy. I have managed to accumulate 20 silver today, and I dont want to lose all that money either. Was too hard to get ;)

Crewsader, if you could give me some tips on alliance I would love you lots for 5 dollah. I tried a Tauren Druid first, but.... For some reason I cant get into playing a slow cow ;) So I now have a night elf druid. Allready the same level as the tauren one, so definetaly easier.

Agree whole heartedly. I have 2 char's a level 12 pally and now a level 9 night elf druid. Must agree that it was much easier leveling with this char, than with the pally.

Just a question. Is it just my imagination or are most of the SA players on Horde Guilds ?

[Macguyver1]

Thanks for all the advice. I have decided to go with a druid. I read up on the class a bit, and love the versatility that it seems to have going for it. And of course being able to shapeshift is also a big bonus to me ;)

I however find WoW so far very boring. Only level 8 at the moment (first played a rogue and priest to level 10), and bored out of my skull. The quests are all the same (kill x amount of creatures/collect x amount of items). Making money is rediculously hard. I dont buy a single thing from any vendors or weaponsmiths/armorsmiths and yet I never have enough money to buy my skills.

Someone please tell me it gets better...

This is why you should play on a PVP server as that is where the fun is, WoW is extremely boring until level 20 or so, then you start grouping with people for instances and game play improves 100 fold, also at about lvl 60 it turns into a whole new game.

[Macguyver1]

I am not sure where you're getting your stats. According to warcraftrealms.com website, if you look at each and every server, Hunters and Warriors outnumber every other class by far, with Rogues being a close third and then the rest.

As to which class to roll now - healing classes always in demand in groups/raids - holy priests/resto druids, and both have decent solo/grinding viability if properly specced. Hunters easy to level and very viable for solo as well as group play - pet as an extra tank and traps for crowd control. Mages - great DPS, good crowd control, valuable in PvP and PvE. Rogues also very good DPS, fairly easy to level, great in PvP.

Do not roll Warrior - very slow to gain levels, difficult to play solo, very gear dependent class, poor talent trees design. If you spec protection you can forget about soloing or PvP. I play warrior as my main and trust me given a choice I would not have rolled a warrior today.

I played Warrior, Rogue and Hunter up to 60, Druid up to 57, Priest up to level 45 now so I have an idea about abovementioned classes. Can't say anything about Paladins or Warlocks, not familiar with those.

Cheers

Got my info from the stats on my server, which might not be the general rule, I wouldn't go for a druid, cause although it seems fun and versatile in the beginning you are pretty much a priest at level 60+, no one wants a druid for anything else but as a healer.

[ClockworkOrange]

I wouldn't go for a druid, cause although it seems fun and versatile in the beginning you are pretty much a priest at level 60+, no one wants a druid for anything else but as a healer.

That clearly has changed since the 2.0.1 patch - druids received considerable buffs as far as tanking/DPS is concerned. Feral druids in bear form can tank just as good if not better than warriors, with insane amount of armour and HP they get, druids in cat form do decent amount of DPS, plus stealth means you can sneak in many places without fighting, and resto druids can compete with priests if they skilled enough.

I would say druid right now IS the class to go for, unless they nerf it in upcoming patches. Whether you are resto spec or a full feral spec, you will almost guaranteed to find a spot in a party/raid.

On top of that - free travel and flying form - no need to buy mount or flying bird.

[DjStyles]

I must agree with Clockworkorange. I'm currently using a druid and it's a really good char. No problem's with tanking or grinding.

[Deviant]

I however find WoW so far very boring. Only level 8 at the moment (first played a rogue and priest to level 10), and bored out of my skull.

It does - early levels are for learning how to play. Things get more interesting later.

[DjStyles]

All this talking make me wanna go home to WOW!!

:eek: :D

[Deviant]

I know what you mean - I finally got my copy of BC last night, can't wait to get back to Hellfire...

[Crewsayder]

while im wating for TBC files ill write up a brief help guidefor you and post it

[Macguyver1]

That clearly has changed since the 2.0.1 patch - druids received considerable buffs as far as tanking/DPS is concerned. Feral druids in bear form can tank just as good if not better than warriors, with insane amount of armour and HP they get, druids in cat form do decent amount of DPS, plus stealth means you can sneak in many places without fighting, and resto druids can compete with priests if they skilled enough.

I would say druid right now IS the class to go for, unless they nerf it in upcoming patches. Whether you are resto spec or a full feral spec, you will almost guaranteed to find a spot in a party/raid.

On top of that - free travel and flying form - no need to buy mount or flying bird.

It sounds like you have never taken a druid to level 60+, Unless you a the GM of your guild, no guild wants a druid in feral spec. And no feral spec druid will ever tank Onyxia like a warrior can. Also druid Aura's don't stack, so usually in a raid there are fewer druids then any other class.

and even with the 40% bonus in cat form your still going to have to buy a mount, otherwise when you pvp how will you keep up with your group who travel at 60%??

you make very little sense.... Have you even played WoW?

[Surprise]

It sounds like you have never taken a druid to level 60+, Unless you a the GM of your guild, no guild wants a druid in feral spec. And no feral spec druid will ever tank Onyxia like a warrior can. Also druid Aura's don't stack, so usually in a raid there are fewer druids then any other class.

and even with the 40% bonus in cat form your still going to have to buy a mount, otherwise when you pvp how will you keep up with your group who travel at 60%??

you make very little sense.... Have you even played WoW?

1) Druid's were buffed as tanks, this makes them better at tanking 5-man instances which is what the game is all about at the moment. Look here to see a warrior say it: http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=120473857&sid=1&pageNo=1
That's maybe not all the factual evidence you'll ever need but I'm too lazy to do look up ALL the links supporting this.

2) No-one cares about Onyxia or BWL or even Naxx anymore. End-game TBC is what people want, and we don't know who is going to be the better tank there. Personally I think it will be a warrior with druid and pally off-tanks. The days of warriors monopolizing the tanking role IS over.

3) Cheetah is gained at lvl 30. That means for for 10 levels you can outgun almost all other classes (Except for shamans, they get ghost wolf at lvl 20). You also can't be polymorphed and you can just shapeshift out of snaresand roots. As a mage I find it VERY frustrating when I see a druid and I know it's useless to try sheep him. Oh and it's instant cast so if a nooblet roots you and starts running you pop this baby, break his snare and he's almost certainly n00b-stew.

So in closing I would like to say that I think druid's are awesome. After writing this reply I'm really in the mood to go roll one. Gone are the days were druids are pigeon-holed as healers. They are now truly hybrids. And if you're guild doesn't want to let you do some tanking they are full of *****, go find a new one. There are people who see further than their noses.

I'm off to go roll a druid, cheers.

[dakeyras]

Hi, me again!

I have played by druid(alliance) up to level 11 now, and Im really loving it. One thing that is really frustrating is all the l33t d00ds alliance side though. For something different I created a horde toon on a different server. I seriously doubt if Im going to go back to alliance. The people are friendlier, and if I ask some noob questions in the general chat, I actually get answers...

For my horde toon I am currently playing a blood elf paladin, and I have to admit that its pretty awesome. I will be trying a few more classes today to see what I will end up playing as my main.

[Surprise]

What server?

[dakeyras]

Horde -- Sporeggar
Alliance -- Anachronos

I chose both realms for their low population. Both of those servers is still very new, with alot of low level toons. That will make it easier for me to find groups according to other people.

[dakeyras]

I have now also started a Warlock, lol. Loving it as well. I just cant decide what to play!!!!!

I have however set up temple at the inn located at the ruins of Silvermoon. I have a steady stream of fellow Blood Elves that worship me. They even bring me gifts of fish!!!

[Surprise]

Well if you want a guild and think you'll be able to re-roll on a different realm some join us. Here's a thread http://mybroadband.co.za/vb/showthread.php?t=64574 . It's a shameless plug I know, but we need more new blood.

[Macguyver1]

1) Druid's were buffed as tanks, this makes them better at tanking 5-man instances which is what the game is all about at the moment. Look here to see a warrior say it: http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=120473857&sid=1&pageNo=1
That's maybe not all the factual evidence you'll ever need but I'm too lazy to do look up ALL the links supporting this.

2) No-one cares about Onyxia or BWL or even Naxx anymore. End-game TBC is what people want, and we don't know who is going to be the better tank there. Personally I think it will be a warrior with druid and pally off-tanks. The days of warriors monopolizing the tanking role IS over.

3) Cheetah is gained at lvl 30. That means for for 10 levels you can outgun almost all other classes (Except for shamans, they get ghost wolf at lvl 20). You also can't be polymorphed and you can just shapeshift out of snaresand roots. As a mage I find it VERY frustrating when I see a druid and I know it's useless to try sheep him. Oh and it's instant cast so if a nooblet roots you and starts running you pop this baby, break his snare and he's almost certainly n00b-stew.

So in closing I would like to say that I think druid's are awesome. After writing this reply I'm really in the mood to go roll one. Gone are the days were druids are pigeon-holed as healers. They are now truly hybrids. And if you're guild doesn't want to let you do some tanking they are full of *****, go find a new one. There are people who see further than their noses.

I'm off to go roll a druid, cheers.

Awesome, look when you hit level 60 come to me, our guild is recruiting healers..

Can I tell you why I agree and disagree with you, Yes druids are an awesome class to play, and yes they can tank better then any class except warrior, and can dish out decent dps in cat form, but the problem lies in the fact that they are excellent healers, and the only other class that can heal better then a druid is a priest.

And that is exactly the problem, look on any server, there are always too few priests,Unfortunately priest is a class that too few people play, so whats the best thing to take the place of a priest, "A druid".

I had a lvl 60 druid and I can promise you that when you hit level 50+ you will never ever be invited into a group for anything except healing. ask any high level druids on your server. but if you like healing, then thats a different story...

[Deviant]

We played through Hellfire Ramparts on Saturday with a feral druid tanking in bear form, and he handled just fine, only one wipe on the final boss. The new changes have definitely made tanking viable for druids.

[Tinuva]

You know its funny what you guys say about druids.

For most of my wow life I had a rogue as my main and is still the most fun class to me to play.

However I made a druid alt, mostly for extra 2 professions (herbalism and alchemy to both save and make gold and pots). Problem is it became a twink pet at level 49 for a long long time doing mostly WSG and so on (still wearing the pink legs).

Anyways when TBC came I decided to play the druid for fun before leveling up my main. And you know, the strangest thing is, I get invited to parties by my guild not for healing, but for tanking. I enjoyed this very much even though I never anticipated to play my druid tank style. Its a lot of fun, taught me a bit about tanking, switching targets like I have never done before to build aggro on all the mobs, especially since warlocks love dotting every freaking thing in sight.

When I solo I am obviously a cat with 0 downtime since well healing yourself > bandages/food and mana regen while you are in cat ;)

When I group up with a warlock buddy I change into int/heal/spirit gear. He pulls about 4-6 mobs dot everything his felguard tank a bit and all I do is heal him. He lifetaps which I also heal meaning we can grind non-stop and really fast. My mana regen most of the time, and whenever innervate is ready I pretty much use it. Also I autoswing at the mobs hoping for omen of clarity to proc. Whenever it does I tell my buddy on Teamspeak listen life tap now I got a free heal. So some fights I end up with more mana than I started with ;)

When I grouped up with a warrior, I just let him tank/dps everything while I heal him. Rage still owns for non-stop dps ;)

[Deviant]

switching targets like I have never done before to build aggro on all the mobs, especially since warlocks love dotting every freaking thing in sight.

Haha, I am guilty of that - my main is a lock. Another neat trick is to Hellfire everything in sight and then watch the tank try desperately to pull everything off you before you inevitably die :)

Seriously though, I avoid using the big damage dots on mobs unless the warrior has had time to gain aggro .. something like Curse of Agony is usually okay because the damage builds, starting off slowly and ending with a bang. Siphon Life can be ok too, the damage procs are quite low and a couple of mobs with SL on them mean endless HP for me :)

[FireFLi]

I leveled a Druid to 60 and loved it. Then I got an invite to join an SA guild and leveled a Rogue to 60.Fun class but no where near as fun as Druid. Was Balance spec but changed to feral the other day when we couldn't get a tank for a Slavepens run.

What a hectic run, didn't get far but hell was fun doing something different for a change. Not too mention cat doing some insane damage :D Druid class finally fixed ;)

[ZeeCPT]

One thing I've noticed in TBC that is profoundly different to pre-BC is that tanks are now in huge demand, even bigger demand than healers which was not the case pre-expansion. On our server there currently seems to be a shortage of prot-warriors, but man the tanking druids do an awesome awesome job in the 5-mans! One druid in my guild has over 15k hit points and tanks better than a lot of warriors I've played with. The non-resto druid has come into it's own in TBC. They are now far more than just healbots.

[Darthmoose]

What ever you do, don't roll a class just because it's the "in thing" at the moment, for example Druids! I have nothing against Druid's it's just that Blizzard has a habit of nerfing and buffing classes over time, so what might seam like the ultimate class at the moment might not seam the same after you have reached 60 or 70. Go with the class you enjoy most playing, don't worry about warriors, blizzard will fix them some time in the future.

[Deviant]

What ever you do, don't roll a class just because it's the "in thing" at the moment, for example Druids! I have nothing against Druid's it's just that Blizzard has a habit of nerfing and buffing classes over time, so what might seam like the ultimate class at the moment might not seam the same after you have reached 60 or 70. Go with the class you enjoy most playing, don't worry about warriors, blizzard will fix them some time in the future.

Heh, I wonder how many belf paladins will be gathering dust in the weeks to come when the hype wears off... I've been playing my shiny new belf shadow priest, and literally 90% of the players I come across in the Ghostlands are pallys...

[ClockworkOrange]

Go with the class you enjoy most playing, don't worry about warriors, blizzard will fix them some time in the future.

Problem with this approach of course, is that you won't know which class you REALLY enjoy playing, until you played it at sufficiently high level (say 40+ at least for when you can fully appreciate the 31 point talents), but by that time you already put so much effort into levelling a character that it's too late.

As to warrior issue, Blizzard stated several times that there will be no more "class reviews", i.e. major overhauls of the classes. Warriors might get a tweak here and there, but by and large don't expect any drastic changes. And judging from past "reviews" I don't expect Warriors to get anywhere near the "fun factor" or plain survivability of some other classes. When I hear about locks or feral druids soloing level 70 elites in Shadowmoon Valley I can only shake my head in despair, knowing that I would never come even close to doing something like that. In Arenas locks/shadow priests DOT you to death while running behind pillars so you don't have LOS for intercept. Main melee classes - Warriors and Rogues have a really toght time right now, it's beyond argument.

Moreover, fixing something for one class does not necessarily make it easier or more fun to play in the newly designed dungeons/instances. I went through fair amount of TBC instances so far, and with single pulls of 4-5 sometimes even 6 elites you have to have sufficient CC/fears/snares/mind control/etc/etc to manage the fight. That alone makes certain classes (mages), way more desirable for grouping, than others.

Me persoanlly I am levelling my priest as fast as I can, and as soon as I hit 70, my warrior will be retired for good.

[Darthmoose]

Unfortunalty what you said is the true, I am also leveling my hunter purely because it's an awesome dps class and probabley the best soloing class of all. I will also retire my warrior when he gets to 70. This whole warrior thing depresses me, especially all the work I put into it.

[Darthmoose]

Yay they are buffing warriors in the next patch, just thought I would let you know. We are getting Thunderclap in defensive stance and 15-20% extra rage generation

[ClockworkOrange]

Yep saw that. It is good news, lets wait and see if this really gets into live (the patch notes are from PTRs for now).