Xbox Business a 'Disastrous Endeavor' for MS

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The Xbox 360 may be popular but it can't be considered successful, says financial analyst Roger Ehrenberg. He believes the entire Xbox business has been a bomb for Microsoft and that "Ballmer's Boys" in Redmond need to own up to it. More within...

Financial analyst Roger Ehrenberg has taken a hard look at the major investment Microsoft has made in gaming since the company first entered the space with the original Xbox , which was released in November of 2001. According to Ehrenberg's piece on financial site SeekingAlpha, Microsoft's decision to get into the gaming business has been nothing short of disastrous. He acknowledges that there are many who think the 360 is a "rocking product" but from a financial perspective he states that the Xbox 360 is a "bomb."

"Making money, e.g., the creation of long-term shareholder value, has got to be the ultimate driver of Microsoft's gaming (and H&E) strategy, right? Well, after five years and over $21 billion invested all they've got to show for it is $5.4 billion of cumulative operating losses, and Xbox 360 doesn't appear to be the silver bullet to turn things around," says Ehrenberg.

Both the Xbox and Xbox 360 have often been thought of as machines for the hardcore gamer. That's all well and good, but as Ehrenberg points out, you need to reach the mass market in order to truly succeed. PS2 was a major, major success because everyone bought it, including people who only bought 1 or 2 games (usually a Madden or a GTA for an entire year).

"It seems to me that there is a disconnect between stated objectives, strategy and execution. Microsoft's vision of the gaming console as the window into the living room is a big, big bet, and one that clearly hasn't paid off thus far," says Ehrenberg. "Mr. Moore talks about the need to broaden its audience across both geographies and demographics, yet the emphasis on HDTV as being a key factor driving broad-based console sales kind of misses the point.

"Is the Wii successful because of its zippy graphics and technological superiority? No. It is successful because it is fun. And because it appeals to a broad audience. And because it is comparatively cheap. The Microsoft strategy sounds more like a niche strategy for hard-core gamers, in which case its investment in a console strategy should be smaller and more targeted. Would Lamborghini try to sell to everyone? Of course not; it would target those who the company knows value its features and are willing to pay for them. This is basic stuff."

Ehrenberg also claims that the Japanese market is vitally important to the success of any console and that a console's performance in Japan is often an indicator of how it will do on a worldwide basis.

"Success in the Japanese market is a key determinant of success in the worldwide market," he says. "In fact, one might say that is a necessary but insufficient condition for a globally successful console platform. Sony and Nintendo have absolutely thrashed Microsoft in Japan, and it shows in the global console sales figures. For historical reference, consider that over 19 million PS1s and 20 million PS2s were sold in Japan alone, close to the worldwide sales figures for the original Xbox console... an early read of the tea leaves does not bode well for the Xbox 360."

http://biz.gamedaily.com/industry/feature/?id=15859

An interesting read to consider when looking at the bigger picture of the console market.
 
the creation of long-term shareholder value
What constitutes long-term? In my opinion avaricious short-term thinking by shareholders often hamstrings companies.

over $21 billion invested all they've got to show for it is $5.4 billion of cumulative operating losses
Is this for the entire division or the Xbox itself?

PS2 was a major, major success because everyone bought it, including people who only bought 1 or 2 games (usually a Madden or a GTA for an entire year).
Did Sony benefit from consumers who bought only one or two games?

Ehrenberg also claims that the Japanese market is vitally important to the success of any console and that a console's performance in Japan is often an indicator of how it will do on a worldwide basis.
We hear this claim often. Was the past situation not various Japanese companies competing against each other, so the Japanese sales may have been meaningful? The Japanese are acknowledged to prefer buying Japanese products, so in the case of the Xbox the Japanese sales may not mean a thing.

If the Xbox 360 is a hardcore gamer niche product how is the PS3 different? I think it is a bit early to declare the Xbox 360 a failure. The original Xbox is not the 360.
 
Is this for the entire division or the Xbox itself? I'd assume thats the entire division. Pretty sure quite a big chunk of that is both the original Xbox and the 360

Did Sony benefit from consumers who bought only one or two games? Well the games need a console to play on :P

We hear this claim often. Was the past situation not various Japanese companies competing against each other, so the Japanese sales may have been meaningful? The Japanese are acknowledged to prefer buying Japanese products, so in the case of the Xbox the Japanese sales may not mean a thing. Well the console gaming market has been prodominantly based in the East, the fact that the Xbox has even made a impact is a good sign they're open to options from different continents.

If the Xbox 360 is a hardcore gamer niche product how is the PS3 different? I think it is a bit early to declare the Xbox 360 a failure. The original Xbox is not the 360. Agreed. Time will tell.
 
I'd assume thats the entire division. Pretty sure quite a big chunk of that is both the original Xbox and the 360
Irrelevant then, because that division does not only make and sell the Xbox.

Well the games need a console to play on
This early in the PS2's life they would have been losing money on each console. Did they make enough off one or two games to break even?

The problem with these alleged financial experts is that no-one keeps a tally of how often they are completely wrong. Are they any better at prediction than the typical psychic?
 
This is a very old story and really is a non starter.

The H&E Department has been making a loss but this department includes the Xbox, Xbox 360, Zune, Media Center and a few other ideas.

The Xbox, Zune and Media Center all lost bucket loads of cash.

The Xbox 360 is a very important device for Microsoft even if it's just to get into peoples living rooms. Remember in the US they now have a movie rental business running through the Xbox which has beaten Apple to the market and is currently winning that war.

This is a doom and gloom report that means nothing.
 
This is a very old story and really is a non starter.

The H&E Department has been making a loss but this department includes the Xbox, Xbox 360, Zune, Media Center and a few other ideas.

The Xbox, Zune and Media Center all lost bucket loads of cash.

The Xbox 360 is a very important device for Microsoft even if it's just to get into peoples living rooms. Remember in the US they now have a movie rental business running through the Xbox which has beaten Apple to the market and is currently winning that war.

This is a doom and gloom report that means nothing.

Isnt the price of the xbox subsidised?
 
Don't you just love it when financial analysts, who've probably never picked up a controller seem to know so much about such a fickle industry.
 
They're repaired and sent back, standard practise. Not like having every battery you manufactured for every company you do business with getting recalled and having to be replaced.
 
I love reading articles from the past where these analysts made predictions that were TOTALLY wrong, then laughing at them. If possible, I make every effort to spam the internet with their noobness.
 
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