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Johan Beaurain

Can you please explain why you use radio (micro) wave frequency, EMF (electro magnetic frequency) and electrical current frequency interchangeably?

Can you explain the difference between the three (I understand these principals well - I would like your words), it appears you have little knowlege of the science behind the goodies you market at (R100 per half hour session!) just looks like smoke and mirrors... maybe you can clear up (the sentences in question are hilighted below).

Holistic Frequency Therapy
by JOHAN BEAURAIN Contact: 021 - 4479727

Some regularly asked questions and answers on Holistic Frequency Therapy

· What is frequency therapy?
It is a natural health modality based on the use of electronic frequencies to bring about improvements in a person's health: elimination of bacterial, viral, mold and parasite infections in our bodies.
· How can you claim to eliminate a bacterial infection in a person's body by applying an electronic frequency to the body. Surely we need antibiotics?
Yes, but some doctors are aware that the information that they acquired at the university can no longer be regarded as cutting edge technology. There are many medical doctors who are already using frequency therapy to treat their patients. We need to congratulate them for that.
· Please explain how your equipment works.
The frequencies are produced in an electronic device called a frequency resonator. The energy points in our fingers and toes are connected to electrodes, so that the therapy can be reach the whole body.


· Is it not dangerous to apply electricity to a person's body?
Electricity can be dangerous if the intention is to electrocute or kill a person, just as plants can be used as medicines or poisons. Electricity can also be dangerous if it is a harmful frequency that is produced in an appliance like a cell-phone or a computer. The 12 Frequency Resonator only emits beneficial and healing frequencies that are very safe.


· But what is a frequency?
A frequency is a pulse or a vibration like a radio wave. A frequency is the amount of times that the electricity goes on and off in one second. In the 12 Frequency resonator we use 12 different frequencies, and we switch to a different frequency every three minutes. Each frequency resonates (switches on and off) at a specific speed. We move in a range between 10 times per second at the lowest,to almost half a million times per second at the highest frequency.


· Why do you need so many frequencies to eliminate bacteria and virus infections in a person's body?
Every bacteria, virus, mold or parasite infection in our body resonates at a specific frequency. In order to eliminate them efficiently from a person's body, we need to apply an external frequency to the person's body. Such a frequency should resonate at a speed very close to the speed at which the infection in his or body resonates.
· How exactly does the frequency bring about the elimination of a bacteria or virus infection?
Imagine a wineglass shattering when somebody sings. That is because the voice reaches the same frequency as the glass and it vibrates itself to pieces. To quote Henry Higgins: "a voice that shatters glass."


· Are you telling me that bacteria and virus infections in our body explode into pieces with your therapy?
Exactly! When we come very close to the vibration of whatever bacterial or viral infection in our body. But even in cases when we apply a frequency that does not vibrate exactly at the same rate as the vibration of the infection, it still damages the infection sufficiently. Such an infection will after a while (plus minus two hours after the treatment), no longer be able to attach itself to any part of our body and being weakened, it will be expelled by the body.
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· Are you telling me that bacteria and virus infections in our body explode into pieces with your therapy?
Exactly! When we come very close to the vibration of whatever bacterial or viral infection in our body. But even in cases when we apply a frequency that does not vibrate exactly at the same rate as the vibration of the infection, it still damages the infection sufficiently. Such an infection will after a while (plus minus two hours after the treatment), no longer be able to attach itself to any part of our body and being weakened, it will be expelled by the body.
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Seriously...who do you work for? Glomail or Verimark?
 
To clarify - I was differentiating between EMF in the radio frequency (microwave) spectrum vs the very general MUCH lower frequencies and of course lower emf (electromagnetic force) of that of a PC power supply... in (I guess mostly) from 12/5vdc and 220vac...
I couldn't help noticing the cell phone and pc comment then the electricity into your system via these so called pressure points at different frequencies (electrical current... not necessarily emf)
 
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@ PiesangTee

Although I have only recently joined the forum, I have been following certain treads and posts since last year. Must say quite enlightening at certain times. And I certainly don't subscribe to J B 's hysteria about certain topics, the contradictions in his opinions and the style of his postings. And it is also obvious that he fails to grasp certain fundamental principles in science and physics (possible even medical but I am not qualified to pose an opinion in this regard) as you have highlighted at the start of the thread. I doubt that you would get a coherent answer on your question, based on content of the quoted article as well as previous postings read.

However, one thing I have come to understand after many years of practicing investigative science and engineering is that traditional convention is not the only truth out there (no pun intended to X-Files) and one should keep an open mind.

J B seems to be falling around in the dark in the quoted article, but there is a technology called Rife which is significantly more advanced and developed than the description provided of Holistic Frequency Therapy. Do the Google thing (as I would prefer not to provide a link so that you could get both sides of the argument). I have personal experience of it and I must say that it has changed my perspective on the subject of health and medicine.
 
I am not selling machines, I do not treat people for money either

PiesangTee said:
Johan Beaurain

Can you please explain why you use radio (micro) wave frequency, EMF (electro magnetic frequency) and electrical current frequency interchangeably?
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A frequency is a frequency. It is just the rate at which the electricity alternates in one second. The piece where you are quoting me, might be something that was said by me, but it was not posted by myself. I suspect that it is something that was posted years ago by Sue Visser. I cannot really remember what my thinking was at the time, but I do not really understand what your problem is either. These terms are being used interchangeably by many people in the exact manner that I used them interchangeably at the time.

PiesangTee said:
Can you explain the difference between the three (I understand these principals well - I would like your words), it appears you have little knowledge of the science behind the goodies you market at (R100 per half hour session!) just looks like smoke and mirrors... maybe you can clear up (the sentences in question are highlighted below).
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I am no longer in the business of trying to sell frequency resonators. It is not a very good business. Because frequency resonators are based on such simple principles and because the materials are also accessible, everybody can actually build their own machines. That is of course only true if you are interested in doing so. If you are not interested you might decide to do something else that appeal to you more than building a frequency resonator.

I have no interest whatsoever to explain something to somebody whom are allready convinced that they understand things better than me. I am prepared to point out to you where I think you are mistaken. But I think you should rather explain these principles to me. It seems to me that you are far more superior to me.
 
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@ PiesangTee

Although I have only recently joined the forum, I have been following certain treads and posts since last year. Must say quite enlightening at certain times. And I certainly don't subscribe to J B 's hysteria about certain topics, the contradictions in his opinions and the style of his postings. And it is also obvious that he fails to grasp certain fundamental principles in science and physics (possible even medical but I am not qualified to pose an opinion in this regard) as you have highlighted at the start of the thread. I doubt that you would get a coherent answer on your question, based on content of the quoted article as well as previous postings read.

However, one thing I have come to understand after many years of practicing investigative science and engineering is that traditional convention is not the only truth out there (no pun intended to X-Files) and one should keep an open mind.

J B seems to be falling around in the dark in the quoted article, but there is a technology called Rife which is significantly more advanced and developed than the description provided of Holistic Frequency Therapy. Do the Google thing (as I would prefer not to provide a link so that you could get both sides of the argument). I have personal experience of it and I must say that it has changed my perspective on the subject of health and medicine.
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Sure, I can understand how electrical current can stimulate substance production in the human body - whether for better or worse, but it is really up to those who invent these things to prove their usefulness scientifically otherwise we have no idea of the cause or possible harm they can do?
 
Johan Beaurain said:
A frequency is a frequency. It is just the rate at which the electricity alternates in one second. The piece where you are quoting me, might be something that was said by me, but it was not posted by myself. I suspect that it is something that was posted years ago by Sue Visser. I cannot really remember what my thinking was at the time, but I do not really understand what your problem is either. These terms are being used interchangeably by many people in the exact manner that I used them interchangeably at the time.
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Electrical frequency or EMF is the rate at which electricity alternates in one second, the rate at which I eat my rice crispies can also be termed the frequency - so many rice crispies per second. I understand the general term frequency. I am trying to figure out if you actually understand what these terms mean since they are used to promote this product "scientifically".


I am no longer in the business of trying to sell frequency resonators. It is not a very good business. Because frequency resonators are based on such simple principles and because the materials are also accessible, everybody can actually build their own machines. That is of course only true if you are interested in doing so. If you are not interested you might decide to do something else that appeal to you more than building a frequency resonator.
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What happened to helping mankind cure AIDS or HIV? Not a good enough reason to try to sell them? Anyways, I'm sure you have your reasons... I assume it's not profitable enough (you don't treat people for money either I see), fine, I'm not sure what you do for money, I was merely quoting another article.

I have no interest whatsoever to explain something to somebody whom are allready convinced that they understand things better than me. I am prepared to point out to you where I think you are mistaken. But I think you should rather explain these principles to me. It seems to me that you are far more superior to me.
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I have no reason to, but thanks for the offer.
If you like, you can start here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frequency
EMF radiated from an electrical source is not the same as the the current itself.

And no, I am certainly not superior to you or anyone else, I just think you need to be sure of what you speak when you do - grasping at straws is OK if you admit that that's what you are doing, as is personal theory - advertise it as such, not fact.
 
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PiesangTee said:
Sure, I can understand how electrical current can stimulate substance production in the human body - whether for better or worse, but it is really up to those who invent these things to prove their usefulness scientifically otherwise we have no idea of the cause or possible harm they can do?
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Rife technology is a bit more involved than this, and there is quite a bit of substance from a scientific point of view. However, it is not a very good business. (See quote by J B - seriously makes me wonder about his personal motivation for some of his arguments) - therefore I think a lack of funding to properly investigate. On the other hand, much of science's facts were identified or theorized well before it was proven with available technology. I think that we have not even scratched the surface regarding the health of the human body and that chemistry is definitely not the only method of addressing all problems. BUT to advocate the commercial application of a poorly understood technology (in any situation) to an uninformed public is a very dangerous philosophy.

Personally I find that various alternative and pro-active approaches to health has been very beneficial rather than to rely on a 10 minute appointment with a doctor when I am already ill. But it is a personal lifestyle which would not suit a lot of people.
 
Science should be proven with the aid of an experiment

VanZan said:
On the other hand, much of science's facts were identified or theorized well before it was proven with available technology. I think that we have not even scratched the surface regarding the health of the human body and that chemistry is definitely not the only method of addressing all problems. BUT to advocate the commercial application of a poorly understood technology (in any situation) to an uninformed public is a very dangerous philosophy.
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I think you are correct. It is possible to prove the usefullness of certain frequencies with the aid of an experiment. Other frequencies are harmfull again. It is also possible to prove the harmfull effect of a frequency with the aid of an experiment.

I am not calling myself a scientist. I am more like a streetscientist. But the principles of science requires from us to prove all our theories with the aid of an experiment.
 
You can test for the good and the bad

noxibox said:
Why would you differentiate between these two? -radio (micro) wave frequency, EMF (electro magnetic frequency)
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I am sorry but i do not understand your question. I was just trying to explain to people what a frequency ( vibration) is.

Some frequencies are conducive to our health and other frequencies are harmful to our health.

My own experiments showed that the frequency that radiates from microwave ovens and cell phones are extremely harmfull to our health. The food that was heated in a microwave oven also radiates an extremely harmfull frequency.

All food radiates a frequency. If a certain food item contain too large a concentration of harmfull elements like toxins or a harmfull frequency that was radiated into the food; it will weaken your muscles. Frequencies that is conducive to your health, will strengthen your muscles.

By performing a muscle test you can test for the good and the bad. What is good for one person might not be good for another person. What is good for you today, might not be good for you tomorrow. But by testing. you can know what is good or bad for you.
 
Johan Beaurain said:
My own experiments showed that the frequency that radiates from microwave ovens and cell phones are extremely harmfull to our health. The food that was heated in a microwave oven also radiates an extremely harmfull frequency.

All food radiates a frequency. If a certain food item contain too large a concentration of harmfull elements like toxins or a harmfull frequency that was radiated into the food; it will weaken your muscles. Frequencies that is conducive to your health, will strengthen your muscles.

By performing a muscle test you can test for the good and the bad. What is good for one person might not be good for another person. What is good for you today, might not be good for you tomorrow. But by testing. you can know what is good or bad for you.
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Please elaborate on the experiments you mention - what did you do exactly? I am particularly interested in the details of the muscle experiment.
 
oh gawd! so microwaves are trying to kill us? why would they sell me microwaves when it kills me!!!! NOOOOOO!!!!!

maybe you should inform manufacturers of the microwaves about your tests so that they can change the way these things work, i.e. NOT KILL PEOPLE! maybe make it radiate HIV rather... instead of frequencies
 
I do not want to repeat that what was done allready by others.

PiesangTee said:
Please elaborate on the experiments you mention - what did you do exactly? I am particularly interested in the details of the muscle experiment.
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http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=navclient&aq=t&ie=UTF-8&rlz=1T4GFRC_enZA217ZA218&q=muscle+test

Please do some reading first, then you can ask me specific questions; and I will try to answer them. I do not want to repeat that what was done allready by others.
 
Trust only those appliances that was tested by yourself

eye_suc said:
oh gawd! so microwaves are trying to kill us? why would they sell me microwaves when it kills me!!!! NOOOOOO!!!!!

maybe you should inform manufacturers of the microwaves about your tests so that they can change the way these things work, i.e. NOT KILL PEOPLE! maybe make it radiate HIV rather... instead of frequencies
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Previously appliances had to be aproved before it could be marketed to the public. The FDA in the USA tried to bring all countries under their quality control system. Unfortunately these agencies do not always carry the public interest at heart. The FDA are in my opinion controlled by the petro-chemical industry.

If people get sick because they are heating their food in micro-wave ovens, it wil be good for the petro-chemical industry, because then they can sell you "medicines" again that will keep you sick.
 
I thought the FDA were controlled by the medical industry?!?!?!

Johan, do you even understand how a microwave actually WORKS?
 
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